Pellett calls on Goff to resign as Labour Leader

April 6th, 2011 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

Bernard Hickey writes:

Imarda Chief Executive and Endace co-founder has called on Labour leader to stand down to allow Labour to strengthen its opposition to the policies of the National-led Government.

Pellett is an economic policy activist with links to the Labour movement, having spoken at the last two Labour Party conferences about the need for economic and monetary policy reform.

Pellett said voters had stopped listening to Labour under Goff and it was time for the opposition to renew itself cleanly before an election wipeout.

“Labour is likely to lose the election no matter who is leading it, but with Phil Goff at the helm it could be a devastating result. People have simply stopped listening,” Pellett said.

“It’s sad as Phil is a very nice and sincere man, but now it’s time for him to go,” he said.

Pellett made the comments in a comment thread under a blog post on Productive Economic Council (PEC) , a business lobby group co-founded by Pellett.

Pellett is very aligned with Labour. He’s been quoted eight times on Red Alert alone. This is arguably their most high profile business backer, since they lost Owen Glenn.

Pellett said the Labour caucus already knew who the contenders were to replace Goff.

“I personally hope Phil will just stand down and avoid splitting the caucus and the party. People’s instincts are that greed and lack of appropriate market regulation caused the global financial crises and lost them their jobs and savings,” he said.

“They may not understand the intricacies of what happened but they understand it was wrong and now they need credible political advocates to champion their corner. Phil Goff hasn’t delivered that for our country and we need it.”

Those are damning words by one of Labour’s biggest supporters.

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81 Responses to “Pellett calls on Goff to resign as Labour Leader”

  1. tankyman (116 comments) says:

    Are they not going to need people like this in order to raise money to campaign later in the year?

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  2. PaulL (5,981 comments) says:

    Interesting. Problem I have is that this guy is supposedly a business man and he supports Labour. Immediately his analytical capability is in question. Whilst it’s amusing to me that he’s calling for Phil Goff’s resignation, why would we put any store in his analysis given that he’s clearly too dumb to work out that Labour were bad for the country and bad for business over the last 9 years?

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  3. jaba (2,141 comments) says:

    hellllllooooo .. what took this bloke so long to realise he/they are backing a lame duck .. no offence meant Trev

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  4. tankyman (116 comments) says:

    This just in Phil Goff just confirmed “My leadership is strengthened by Selwyn Pellett’s feedback”

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  5. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    I suspect that Labour will find fundraising exceedingly difficult this year, and that the traditional support from the union movement will not be enough. What corporates would want to be associated with Brand Labour at the moment?

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  6. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    I2, I’d say it is a reality Labour have yet to face.
    Additionaly they don’t have a Field type to get the church goers of south auckland into the polling boths, coz he is in the big house.

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  7. Selwyn Pellett (1 comment) says:

    Tankyman…..that’s actaully very funny.

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  8. David Farrar (1,894 comments) says:

    Heh yes that is funny – and sums up the problem also.

    If interested, his actual response is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAD2NgkWsQA

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  9. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    # Inventory2 (6,054) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    I suspect that Labour will find fundraising exceedingly difficult this year, and that the traditional support from the union movement will not be enough. What corporates would want to be associated with Brand Labour at the moment?”

    Don’t these ‘corporates’ support asset sales?

    HOW ODD! :)

    Goodness me – some of them wouldn’t therefore be supporting – (in a private and ‘confidential’ way, of course) this corporate media campaign to help try and discredit and undermine Labour, as was done in 2008 with Winston Peters and NZ First?

    (I have the evidence to support this corporate media campaign, in terms of my research on the NZ Herald articles on Winston Peters / NZ First politically-motivated complaints to both the Police and SFO, which resulted in no charges being laid, but had the desired effect of putting off enough of the voting public to help ensure NZ First didn’t make the required 5% party vote threshold.)

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  10. wat dabney (3,756 comments) says:

    Penny,

    I’m not sure you really understand how this works.

    Winston was not smeared, he was exposed.

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  11. MT_Tinman (3,184 comments) says:

    I googled Imarda and Endace because I’ve heard of neither.

    I prefer Phil’s version.

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  12. PaulL (5,981 comments) says:

    Penny, refer (from the earlier thread when you put up that “evidence”)

    Penny, if that’s your evidence, then you clearly don’t understand what evidence looks like. Basic problems with your “evidence” are:
    1. All it shows is that media publicised allegations of fraud against Winston. No evidence of a corporate conspiracy. The most likely explanation is that it was news.
    2. It doesn’t show any evidence Rodney was in on it. The media are pretty unremittingly negative about ACT, so unlikely you’d say they were in cahoots with ACT
    3. Don’t see where that has anything to do with asset sales
    4. You don’t seriously believe that Winston didn’t get that donation, do you? Are you really that crazy?

    I really didn’t think there were any Winston supporters left, cause you’d have to be blind Freddy to not notice he took that donation.

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  13. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    What CRIME did Winston Peters commit?
    What CRIME was Winston Peters charged with?
    What CRIME was Winston Peters convicted of?

    He was smeared all right.

    When I made a complaint at a similar time in 2008, to the Police and SFO over, (in my considered opinion) ‘shonky’ John Key’s attempt to flush out commercially sensitive information about Tranz Rail through an OIA to Cullen at a time he had an undisclosed pecuniary interest, (arguably misuse of public office for private gain – a CORRUPT practice) there wasn’t ONE sentence in the NZ Herald.

    A little ‘disproportionate’ the coverage of these two matters, don’t you think?

    ‘MAN ON THE MOON’ headlines for Winston Peters vs not one sentence for, (in my considered opinion) ‘shonky’ John Key?

    Trust me – I know EXACTLY how it works.

    The public of NZ get the Government the majority of big business want us to have – through corporate media manipulation of our electoral process, as is happening RIGHT NOW with the constant attempts to discredit and undermine Phil Goff and the Labour Party.

    I’ll say it again – the Botany by-election results, in my view, PROVE just how unpopular asset sales are – with significant numbers of (former?) National voters as well – who – like everyone else – get power bills every month which confirm what a total crock these ‘Rogernomic$’ electricity reforms have been for the public majority.

    So – PLAN B – do your best to undermine the major political party which has a stated policy of opposition to asset sales – so you can try to preferably get a majority to ‘govern alone’.

    (If you check the Botany by-election results, you will find that Labour’s electoral vote proportionally increased – while National’s plummeted.

    Where was Phil Goff?

    On the campaign trail in Botany, supporting Labour candidate Michael Wood.

    Where was John Key?

    On the campaign trail in Botany, supporting National candidate Jami-Lee Ross – BEGGING National voters to please get out and vote.

    Spin the 36% turnout (down from 76% turnout in 2008) any way you like – but in my view – over 9000 (former?) National Party voters effectively gave Prime Minister John Key the fingers.

    VERY interesting that so many ‘political commentators’ aren’t focused on these FACTS?

    Oh yes – they don’t match the required ‘spin’.

    Silly me.

    :)

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  14. jaba (2,141 comments) says:

    I agree with your last line

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  15. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    “# PaulL (3,928) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Penny, refer (from the earlier thread when you put up that “evidence”)

    Penny, if that’s your evidence, then you clearly don’t understand what evidence looks like. Basic problems with your “evidence” are:
    1. All it shows is that media publicised allegations of fraud against Winston. No evidence of a corporate conspiracy. The most likely explanation is that it was news.
    2. It doesn’t show any evidence Rodney was in on it. The media are pretty unremittingly negative about ACT, so unlikely you’d say they were in cahoots with ACT
    3. Don’t see where that has anything to do with asset sales
    4. You don’t seriously believe that Winston didn’t get that donation, do you? Are you really that crazy?

    # PaulL (3,928) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Penny, refer (from the earlier thread when you put up that “evidence”)

    Penny, if that’s your evidence, then you clearly don’t understand what evidence looks like. Basic problems with your “evidence” are:
    1. All it shows is that media publicised allegations of fraud against Winston. No evidence of a corporate conspiracy. The most likely explanation is that it was news.
    2. It doesn’t show any evidence Rodney was in on it. The media are pretty unremittingly negative about ACT, so unlikely you’d say they were in cahoots with ACT
    3. Don’t see where that has anything to do with asset sales
    4. You don’t seriously believe that Winston didn’t get that donation, do you? Are you really that crazy?

    “I really didn’t think there were any Winston supporters left, cause you’d have to be blind Freddy to not notice he took that donation.”

    To put in his own pocket, and privately benefit, as John Key tried to do with TranzRail?

    ” It doesn’t show any evidence Rodney was in on it. The media are pretty unremittingly negative about ACT”

    err… Who made the complaints to the Police and SFO about NZ First?

    (Issue by issue Rodney! :)

    Check the evidence I have provided you with CAREFULLY :)

    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

    Penny Bright

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  16. wat dabney (3,756 comments) says:

    What CRIME did Winston Peters commit?
    What CRIME was Winston Peters charged with?
    What CRIME was Winston Peters convicted of?

    Huh?

    What’s that got to do with anything?

    His lies were exposed.

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  17. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Penny, I think you’ve dragged this thread off-topic. You do this time after time, usually thinly veiled segues into a defence of Winston Peters. In theory you should get pinged 10 demerits every time you do it.
    If you like we can start emailing DPF every time you do it, alternatively you could take the initiative and stop doing it.

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  18. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    # wat dabney (382) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    “What CRIME did Winston Peters commit?
    What CRIME was Winston Peters charged with?
    What CRIME was Winston Peters convicted of?”

    Huh?

    What’s that got to do with anything?

    His lies were exposed.”

    A complaint was made to the Police – just as happened with Darren Hughes……………

    The complaint was made to the Police on 4 September 2008.

    The Police said no offence had been committed – on 5 November 2008.

    The election was on 8 November 2008.

    But – the damage had been done.

    (Just as with Darren Hughes?)

    Check the evidence I have provided you with CAREFULLY :)

    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

    Penny Bright

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  19. wat dabney (3,756 comments) says:

    But – the damage had been done.

    Yes, when his lies were exposed.

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  20. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    # RightNow (2,499) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Penny, I think you’ve dragged this thread off-topic. You do this time after time, usually thinly veiled segues into a defence of Winston Peters. In theory you should get pinged 10 demerits every time you do it.
    If you like we can start emailing DPF every time you do it, alternatively you could take the initiative and stop doing it.”

    Complain away!

    FILL YOUR BOOTS.

    1) I have a track record few can match when it comes to defending ‘freedom of expression’.

    2) How am I ‘off-track’ when I am responding to comments that others have made, and they are clearly , in my view ‘on-thread’?

    3) Why aren’t you making the same complaints about those to whom I am responding?

    ie: PaulL (3,928) and wat dabney (382)?

    Not, of course that I want them to be pinged – for trying to have an intelligent debate/discussion about the issue.

    Run off snivelling to David as much as you like – GUTLESS ‘Right Now’ – but I think you’ll find that although David probably disagrees as much as you do over WHAT I am saying, because he does actually believe in ‘freedom of expression’ – he will allow me to keep putting my reasoned and considered opinion, which is based on FACTS and EVIDENCE.

    “..usually thinly veiled segues into a defence of Winston Peters.”

    Oh dear – how SAD is that?

    I’m only allowed an opinion that attacks Winston Peters?

    Poor little toothless goldfish – can’t find the arguments to combat what I’m saying – so threatens me to try and shut me up?

    WRONG woman.

    And WRONG blog?

    Who died and made you the boss?

    Last time I looked – this was David Farrar’s blog – not yours?

    Whoever the hell you are GUTLESS ‘Rightnow’?

    (You start it – I will finish it.
    You were warned! :)

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  21. jaba (2,141 comments) says:

    wow, I person who openly supports both Goff and Peters .. poor Penny is possibly in a dilemma unless she lives in Mt Roskill or the electorate the Winny may decide to stand. Who to give her valuable party vote to? Gee, I hope she isn’t a Greenie as well

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  22. Viking2 (11,467 comments) says:

    The problem for Labour is not Phil Goff. The problem for Phil is Labour. A rag tag bunch of half useless individuals, mostly with their own agenda’s rather than a Labour agenda.
    A legacy of a previous bunch of useless non Labour masqueraders such as Clark, Cullen ,Wilson and co.

    Clark without doubt placed Labour in political receivership and there is samll chance that it can be resurected.
    And that’s really the problem.
    For if Goff left tomorrow the rest of Labour would simply collapse and vanish.

    Now some would see that as good BUT, we need a strong opposition to ensure the current incumbents don’t become as the past were.

    Better I’d suggest to have a lot stronger right wing Party. When (not if ), Labour does collapse the Nats will fill the void in the centre left as they do now. (Unless the have an epiphany and discover their roots, almost unlikely.).

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  23. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    “# jaba (1,097) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    wow, I person who openly supports both Goff and Peters .. poor Penny is possibly in a dilemma unless she lives in Mt Roskill or the electorate the Winny may decide to stand. Who to give her valuable party vote to? Gee, I hope she isn’t a Greenie as well”

    Actually, I’m a New Zealander who believes that it is the ‘will of the people’ (not big business) that should be the basis of the authority of government, and that should be decided through ‘fair and genuine elections’, where members of the public can cast an ‘informed’ vote.

    What happened to Winston Peters, and NZ First in 2008 was not fair, in my considered opinion, and neither is what has happened to Darren Hughes, and is happening now to Phil Goff and the Labour Party.

    As I work on an ‘issue by issue’ basis, I find points of common interest across all parties.

    Don’t be too concerned ‘jaba’ about the question for whom I will choose to vote.

    My business – my problem? :)

    Penny Bright
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  24. starboard (2,536 comments) says:

    “(You start it – I will finish it.
    You were warned.”

    Gawd..I say again..imagine being hitched to it…what a punish.

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  25. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    …. Anyway … back on the actual suject of the post.

    I can’t understand what it is about this lot and their obsession with internecine disputes and self-harming?
    It’s like watching a rat his gnawing their own hind leg off so he can get to the front of teh line of those seeking to flee a sinking ship.

    Any reasonable person can see that it would be political suicide for anyone to roll Goff right now. But no, that isn’t enough for some. Rather than sit tight, take the licks and then regroup after the election, you find well-meaning but selfishly opinionated individuals like this sticking the knife in and twisting it. I’d be tempted, if I were Goff or any other member of the Labour shadow cabinet to call him up and politely tell him to STFU.

    What next – organ grinders getting advice from their monkeys on how to position a barrow?

    Now back to Penny-in-handcuffs

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  26. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Penny, I went out of my way to be polite about it. Can’t you just take it to General Debate?

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  27. somewhatthoughtful (465 comments) says:

    PaulL, not all business people (myself included) want to live in a shit country so we don’t vote nact. simple really.

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  28. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    What crime did Winston Peters commit? You know the answer to that Penny; he knowingly misled Parliament, and was censured by his peers. It’s all here:

    http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Debates/Debates/8/1/d/48HansD_20080923_00000825-Privilege-Consideration-of-Report-of-Privileges.htm

    And much as it pains me to laud the Greens, they voted to censure Peters, and rightly so. Russel Norman was right on the money when he said this:

    In terms of the evidence, I can tell members that in my mind it was difficult to try to put the witnesses’ words one against the other. We heard numerous stories. It was very difficult to know which was the right story when one was sitting there listening to them all. So I think one of the key issues for me was the events around 14 December. That was one of the key bits of evidence, because regardless of who rang whom before 14 December, something very important happened on that day. There were two phone calls and an email. The first phone call was from the billionaire to the politician—if we want to take people’s names out of it—and they talked about something. We do not know what they talked about; there are different stories. The politician rang the politician’s lawyer immediately after, and they talked about something. Then the lawyer sent an email back to the billionaire and said: “Further to your conversation with the politician, here are my bank account details.” This series of phone calls and the email were compelling evidence—they were strong evidence. The thing about them is that nobody denied this evidence. Nobody said “Actually, this didn’t happen.” Those three pieces of evidence and the way they are connected together are a central part of why, I think, the majority of the committee came to the conclusion it did. There is a lot else around this, but we know that those three pieces of evidence were extremely strong, and nobody denied those three pieces of evidence.

    Russel Norman got it spot on. Winston Peters knew about the donation from Glenn, but lied about it. That might not be a crime in the same manner as getting arrested for trespass and convicted (for example), but it showed that Winston Peters was as dishonest, opportunistic and venal as all those politicians he had criticised over the years.

    Winston Peters quite simply cannot be trusted. That you are banging his drum does little for your credibility.

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  29. reid (16,442 comments) says:

    Any reasonable person can see that it would be political suicide for anyone to roll Goff right now.

    It’s political suicide for Liarbore to keep Goff right now. In fact, at any time. But now, as I said last night, he can only dive in the polls and drag the party down with him. They will tank in this election. Even if they ditch him they will lose, but if they keep him they will be decimated.

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  30. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    # starboard (1,810) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    “(You start it – I will finish it.
    You were warned.”

    Gawd..I say again..imagine being hitched to it…what a punish.”

    Likewise ‘starboard’ … I say it again’ – this will never be a problem for you.

    The type of MAN I like is of good character and has a good heart, not a snivelling little gutless wimp, who doesn’t even put his name to his posts?

    So ‘starboard’ – the chances of us being ‘hitched’ – are, …………errr………… shall we say, rather remote?

    It’s ok – I understand :)

    You are just one of the many BOYS who just can’t deal with strong-willed, independently-minded women who TAKE NO SHIT.

    All a bit sad really.

    All the best.

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  31. starboard (2,536 comments) says:

    Its ok Penny..the feelings mutual. The womans place is in the kitchen and I would probably have to handcuff you to the sink.
    Strong willed? Independent?..Cant be bothered..dont need the competitive spouse..thats the issue with kiwi women..too much in ya face..”oi oi oi” ” take no shit “..ya know what I mean..anyway I digress..carry on regardless.

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  32. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    starboard – I object! Not all kiwi women have a chip on their shoulder

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  33. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    Penny Bright; Warrior Princess :-)

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  34. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    “# starboard (1,811) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Its ok Penny..the feelings mutual. The womans place is in the kitchen and I would probably have to handcuff you to the sink.
    Strong willed? Independent?..Cant be bothered..dont need the competitive spouse..thats the issue with kiwi women..too much in ya face..”oi oi oi” ” take no shit “..ya know what I mean..anyway I digress..carry on regardless.”

    Interesting view ‘starboard’.

    ‘Strong willed’ and ‘independent’, in my view, is quite different to ‘competitive’?

    It sounds a shame – because it sounds like you won’t have much fun in your relationships if you want to CONTROL your woman?

    You will probably get on better if you are a bit more accepting, (and have a few turns helping with the cooking and dishes?)

    Do you actually have water and electricity in your cave?

    Just kidding! :)

    All the best.

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  35. Manolo (13,746 comments) says:

    Not all kiwi women have a chip on their shoulder.

    I agree. Although some like the sane and composed Penny have a boulder on their shoulder!

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  36. starboard (2,536 comments) says:

    Pennys well balanced, c’mon..she got a chip on both shoulders…

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  37. Rodders (1,755 comments) says:

    Penny said “He was smeared all right.”

    My heart bleeds for him! NZ First attacks anyone and everyone (especially migrants) so they deserve no quarter.

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  38. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    Come 0n Guys, Penney’s ok, she’s a modest woman with much to be modest about.

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  39. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    “# RightNow (2,501) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Penny, I went out of my way to be polite about it. ”

    Yep – me too.

    You should see how I react when I’m REALLY pissed off.

    “Can’t you just take it to General Debate?”

    errr…. no.

    Not when I’m finishing off what others have started, and it is still arguably ‘on-thread’.

    I reserve the right to rebut others’ points of view and to defend myself. (With some vigour, as you may have noticed :)

    The final arbiter as to what is or is not ‘off-thread’ is David – not you – so I think I’ll leave it to him.

    err… it is HIS blog?

    (It is my considered opinion that David is probably rather enjoying all (ok – some) of this ?……………….:)

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  40. jaba (2,141 comments) says:

    mmm, Penny is getting me going .. I keep wondering if she is wearing her white top she was areested in.

    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  41. ciaron (1,431 comments) says:

    Sorry, I must have missed the bit where this post stopped being about Phil Goff’s leadership and became about Penny V the World.

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  42. jaba (2,141 comments) says:

    PRESS RELEASE: Botany by-election candidate – Penny Bright

    “Reported comments from Prime Minister John Key, suggesting that Botany is a safe National seat, may be a little premature,” says judicially-recognised ‘Public Watchdog’ on Metrowater, water and Auckland regional governance matters, Penny Bright.

    ooooops

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  43. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    It would solve some of Goff’s problems if an early election was held – it would presumably halt leadership speculation, and would mean they don’t have the time to fundraise big time so it would help there. It just isn’t likely to change his and Labour’s lack of resonance.

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  44. reid (16,442 comments) says:

    Pete funding is a big prob for Liarbore at the mo, as I understand. No more Owen Glen’s, you see.

    Goff isn’t able to turn this situation around. Nothing he can do will make anything better, unless he reveals he is, in fact, Superman and uses his super powers to impress voters on the campaign trail and I’m not sure that’s going to happen.

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  45. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    jaba (1,099) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    PRESS RELEASE: Botany by-election candidate – Penny Bright

    “Reported comments from Prime Minister John Key, suggesting that Botany is a safe National seat, may be a little premature,” says judicially-recognised ‘Public Watchdog’ on Metrowater, water and Auckland regional governance matters, Penny Bright.

    ooooop”

    Don’t think that John Key/ National were predicting the 36% turnout or the 9000 (former) National party voter ‘no show’?

    Arguably, Botany wasn’t quite as safe as it used to be?

    :)

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  46. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    # ciaron (506) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Sorry, I must have missed the bit where this post stopped being about Phil Goff’s leadership and became about Penny V the World.”

    If ‘the World’ picks on me – I WILL defend myself.

    :)

    That’s fair isn’t it?

    Respectfully suggest you check out who is ‘starting’ this – not who is ‘finishing’ it?

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  47. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    Crazy talk.

    Where will they find someone else with Goff’s charisma, nous and rapier wit?

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  48. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    Yes – much prefer John Key’s honesty, integrity, and above all – sincerity?

    :)

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  49. Rodders (1,755 comments) says:

    Would Penny prefer Winston’s honesty, integrity, and above all – sincerity?

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  50. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    It would appear so Rodders. Or maybe it’s the Italian suits.

    I didn’t realize that Our Pen was a GreyPower member though ;-)

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  51. Rodders (1,755 comments) says:

    :)

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  52. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    # Inventory2 (6,057) Says:
    April 6th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    It would appear so Rodders. Or maybe it’s the Italian suits.

    I didn’t realize that Our Pen was a GreyPower member though ;-)”

    I’m actually not a member of ANY political party :)

    Think it is more appropriate that way.

    Always pays to check your facts Inventory2.

    PRESUME NOTHING – CHECK EVERYTHING.

    However, for the public record, I do prefer Winston Peter’s ‘honesty, integrity, and above all – sincerity’ to that of, in my view, ‘shonky’ John Key.

    He has been masterfully ‘packaged’, but, in my view, he he still a ‘corporate raider’.

    :)

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  53. Rodders (1,755 comments) says:

    Penny says “I do prefer Winston Peter’s ‘honesty, integrity, and above all – sincerity’ to that of, in my view, ‘shonky’ John Key.”

    Ever considered a career in standup comedy, Penny?

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  54. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Pellet’s turn to be muscled out of the picture. I wonder if it will get picked up on the Labour blogs.

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  55. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    On Night-line they referred to Pellet calling Goff a ‘dead man walking’ but I haven’t seen Pellet say that anywhere.
    It looks like the media are going to keep chasing Goff as an issue. Wonder how long he’ll last before they actually bring him down.

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  56. ciaron (1,431 comments) says:

    Penny, I hate to break it to you seeing as you have made it your life mission but the world is not picking on you.

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  57. ciaron (1,431 comments) says:

    WRP: “I did not have monetary relations with that man Owen Glen”

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  58. Chris R (70 comments) says:

    Penny thinks John key is a “corporate raider!” What is left in NZ to raid? This woman screams through a computer. There must be a circus somewhere which would welcome her. North Korea perhaps?

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  59. Nookin (3,341 comments) says:

    Ciaron
    LOL.
    Give that man a cigar!

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  60. mattyroo (1,027 comments) says:

    Pellet and Endace were big benefactors of grants under the last Labour administration.

    One would wonder that this was not some kind of you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours arrangement. How much did Endace and Pellet (or other associated entities) give back to the corrupt Labour party.

    Now there’s a conspiracy theory for Not so Bright Penny to investigate.

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  61. mikesh (4 comments) says:

    I think I prefer Winston’s honesty and integrity to that of a certain “Dipton resident”. Well… … at least that’s what he claimed to be.

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  62. Maggie (672 comments) says:

    Never heard of Endance, Imarda, or Pellett.

    He seems to be a real mystery man. First he has ”links to the Labour movement” whatever that means, then he is one of Labour’s biggest supporters.

    In between he becomes “arguably” their most high profile business backer.

    ”Arguably” is a great word. It means ”this statement isn’t true, but I want to use it anyway”.

    Farrar’s getting feverish again.

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  63. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    “Never heard of Endance, Imarda, or Pellett.”

    So you’re too lazy to do any research? You’re probably the most pathetic entity I’ve ever encountered on blog Maggie.

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  64. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    I suppose you’ll accuse me of bullying you, but frankly you’re a half wit who resorts to name calling more often than not, and you deserve everything you get back.

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  65. Maggie (672 comments) says:

    RN, I’m a halfwit who resorts to name-calling? Isn’t there a slight contradiction there?

    You are in a nasty mood, sunshine. Try taking a valium and lying down for a while.

    Have a nice day.

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  66. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Thanks Maggie, I’m having a great day actually. Did you do any research in the end?

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  67. Maggie (672 comments) says:

    I’m delighted to hear it. Actually I did the research earlier.

    Did you work out the contradiction in your previous post? Or do you need a clue?

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  68. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    You can skip the clues Maggie, I covered your allegation in advance since you’re so predictable.

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  69. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    Hi boyz and GRRRLS! :)

    THE FACTS FROM THE COMPANIES OFFICE:

    Research: Endance, Imarda, and Pellett

    1) IMARDA HOLDINGS LIMITED (Search for the COMPANY – revealed this)

    http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/2073303

    IMARDA HOLDINGS LIMITED

    Last updated on 01 Mar 2011
    Certificate of Incorporation All Company Details

    This company is now overdue in its obligation to file an annual return. If the annual return is not filed immediately the Registrar will initiate action to remove the company from the register.
    Company number: 2073303
    Incorporation Date: 20 Dec 2007
    Company Status: Registered
    Entity type: NZ Limited Company
    Constitution filed: Yes
    AR filing month: March , last filed on 01 Apr 2010
    Company Addresses:
    Registered Office
    C/-bell Gully, Level 22, Vero Centre, 48 Shortland Street, Auckland , New Zealand

    Address for service
    C/-bell Gully, Level 22, Vero Centre, 48 Shortland Street, Auckland , New Zealand
    View all addresses
    Directors Showing 1 of 1 directors

    Selwyn Lyall PELLETT
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, Auckland, 2576 , New Zealand

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________

    (Search for DIRECTORS/SHAREHOLDERS – revealed this)

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * IMARDA LIMITED (1916709) (Struck off) – Director
    Director Appointed 06 Mar 2007
    Brookby Road, Brookby
    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________

    http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/search?mode=standard&type=entities&q=Endance

    2) ENDANCE is not listed at the NZ Companies Office.

    3) SEARCH OF DIRECTORS:

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * SELLUTIONS NOMINEES LIMITED (1298923) (Struck off) – Director
    Director Appointed 05 May 2003
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, 2576, New Zealand

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * IMARDA LIMITED (1916709) (Struck off) – Director
    Director Appointed 06 Mar 2007
    Brookby Road, Brookby

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * PROLIFICX (HONG KONG) HOLDING LIMITED (1344803) (Struck off) – Director
    Director Appointed 08 Jul 2003
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, Auckland, 2576, New Zealand

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * IMARDA LIMITED (1298904) (Struck off) – Director
    Director Appointed 05 May 2003
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, 2576, New Zealand

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * PROLIFICX MANUFACTURING LIMITED (1355575) (Struck off) – Director
    Director Appointed 23 Jul 2003
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, Auckland, 2576, New Zealand

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * SELLUTIONS (PAROCHUS) HOLDINGS LIMITED (1368665) (Struck off) – Director
    Director Appointed 04 Aug 2003
    410 Brookby Avenue, Brookby, Auckland

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * P4B LIMITED (1389848) (Struck off) – Director
    Director Appointed 16 Sep 2003
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, Auckland, 2576, New Zealand

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * PROLIFICX HOLDINGS LIMITED (1445832) (Struck off) – Director

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * SELLUTIONS CAPITAL USA HOLDING LIMITED (1383860) (Struck off) – Director
    Director Appointed 26 Aug 2003
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, Auckland, 2576, New Zealand

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * P4B LIMITED (1389848) (Struck off) – Shareholder
    Shareholder 51% (Individually Held)
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, Auckland

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * SELLUTIONS CAPITAL USA HOLDING LIMITED (1383860) (Struck off) – Shareholder
    Shareholder 100% (Individually Held)
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, Auckland

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * ACOUSTIX LIMITED (2224757) – Director
    Director Appointed 06 Apr 2009
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, Auckland, 2576, New Zealand

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * SPECTRAL TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED (680340) (Struck off) – Director
    Director Appointed 06 Jun 1995
    99 Kohimarama Road, Kohimarama, Auckland

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * PROLIFICX HOLDINGS LIMITED (1445832) (Struck off) – Shareholder
    Shareholder 100% (Individually Held)
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, Auckland

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * SPECTRAL TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED (680340) (Struck off) – Shareholder
    Shareholder 10% (Individually Held)
    99 Kohimarama Road, Kohimarama, Auckland

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * LAUNCHPAD INVESTMENTS LIMITED (2071697) (Struck off) – Director
    Director Appointed 11 Dec 2007
    410 Brookby Road, Brookby, Manurewa, Auckland, 2576, New Zealand

    PELLETT, Selwyn

    * LENDIT LIMITED (2191863) – Shareholder
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________

    ‘Seek truth from facts’?

    (I will double check whether or not Selwyn Pellett has gone from being a Director to CEO of IMARDA HOLDINGS LTD, and report back.)

    Next step would be to check donations to political parties……………..

    ‘Presume nothing – check everything’?

    :)

    Cheers!

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  70. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    http://www.imardainc.com/imarda-directors

    Imarda Directors
    Selwyn Pellett – CEO

    Selwyn Pellett is the founder, CEO and Chairman of Imarda Ltd, co-founder and non-executive director of Endace Ltd, and director of Sway-Tech Ltd and founder and director of Storm Distribution Ltd. Selwyn established Imarda Inc. in 2006, which purchased both Prolificx and Australian Telematics solutions company SmartTrack. This has firmly established Imarda as an innovator in the Fleet Management and Tracking solutions market.

    As the former CEO and co-founder of the Endace Ltd Selwyn lead Endace to be the first New Zealand registered company to list on the UK’s AIM stock market in June 2005.

    Selwyn has worked in the electronics industry in New Zealand, Australia and Asia for over 19 years with the last six years focused on the global Network Security and Telematics markets. His extensive experience in international sales, marketing, strategic planning and supply chain management in small start-ups through to multi-billion dollar corporations gives Selwyn a unique perspective on New Zealand into global markets.”

    Not clear what date this was published.

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  71. Maggie (672 comments) says:

    RightNow (2,512) Says:

    April 7th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
    You can skip the clues Maggie, I covered your allegation in advance since you’re so predictable.

    Did you? When was that?

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  72. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    Interesting how ‘Pellett, the spokesperson for the Productive Economy Council’ – has changed his view of Phil Goff and Labour policies since June 24th, 2010 ?

    In June 2010, Mr Pellett was VERY supportive of both Phil Goff and Labour Party policy.

    READ FOR YOURSELF!

    (Thank you David for providing the link so I could do a bit more homework – respectfully suggest others do the same?)

    :)

    “The Productive Economy council welcomes Labour’s announced intention to create a monetary policy environment that better supports exporters.

    With every political party angling for the populist vote, it’s highly encouraging to see Phil Goff today staking out a position that will provoke serious debate on how we grow the economy. Those businesses that design, make, employ and export real things will love this announcement, says Pellett, the spokesperson for the Productive Economy Council.”

    Our own analysis has shown having price stability as the only goal and varying interest rates as the only tool in achieving price stability has led New Zealand exporters into recession long before the global financial crisis,” says Pellett.

    We fully support Goff’s desire to give the Reserve Bank a broader set of goals and tools. The use of a capital adequacy ratio, for example, will slow down the creation of debt during inflationary cycles, improve savings returns for local savers and avoid excessive spikes in the exchange rates.

    “We have been ill-served by politicians over the years, either not seeing the issues clearly, or putting short-term electoral self-interest ahead of the country’s need for them to make the hard decisions. Labour seems now to have got the message that you cannot have a healthy economy and, by extension, a prosperous future unless that economy is balanced, with no one portion being excessively penalised at the expense of another,” says Pellett.

    “The measures suggested by Labour will not, by themselves, create a productive economy, but they will go some way towards helping create an environment in which the productive economy has a chance to grow the export dollars that underpin the economic well-being of everyone in this country. If Labour stands resolute on monetary policy reform we see the potential for a significant shift in support and that will make for some very interesting debate in the business community,” says Pellett.

    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Goff’s announcement will split the business vote predicts the Productive Economy Council

    The Productive Economy council welcomes Labour’s announced intention to create a monetary policy environment that better supports exporters.

    With every political party angling for the populist vote, it’s highly encouraging to see Phil Goff today staking out a position that will provoke serious debate on how we grow the economy. Those businesses that design, make, employ and export real things will love this announcement, says Pellett, the spokesperson for the Productive Economy Council.

    Labour’s Spokesperson for Economic Development, David Parker, signalled earlier this week Labour’s proposed changes to Monetary Policy and the critical role of the new tools it envisaged in re-balancing the economy. Parker told the Manufacturers and Exporters Association that “the Reserve Bank Act needs to be clarified to ensure the bank can use such tools primarily for the purpose of supporting Monetary Policy,” that “Labour will make that change,” and that “the change would cause the Reserve Bank to use prudential ratios, rather than rely solely on interest rates”.

    Goff’s speech today to Federated Farmers points out that New Zealand is unusual internationally in having a single policy goal for the Reserve Bank. Australia’s Reserve Bank Act requires the bank to aim for a stable currency, full employment, and the economic prosperity and welfare of the people of Australia. Who could argue with those goals?

    “Our own analysis has shown having price stability as the only goal and varying interest rates as the only tool in achieving price stability has led New Zealand exporters into recession long before the global financial crisis,” says Pellett.

    We fully support Goff’s desire to give the Reserve Bank a broader set of goals and tools. The use of a capital adequacy ratio, for example, will slow down the creation of debt during inflationary cycles, improve savings returns for local savers and avoid excessive spikes in the exchange rates.

    “We have been ill-served by politicians over the years, either not seeing the issues clearly, or putting short-term electoral self-interest ahead of the country’s need for them to make the hard decisions. Labour seems now to have got the message that you cannot have a healthy economy and, by extension, a prosperous future unless that economy is balanced, with no one portion being excessively penalised at the expense of another,” says Pellett.

    There are many policy options that could be looked at once we get past the dual myths of ‘We Have Best Practice’ and ‘There Is No Alternative’, says Pellett, but the fact that Labour has moved past them, saying they don’t support the accord on monetary policy, and is now proposing viable options is a monumental step in the right direction.

    “The measures suggested by Labour will not, by themselves, create a productive economy, but they will go some way towards helping create an environment in which the productive economy has a chance to grow the export dollars that underpin the economic well-being of everyone in this country. If Labour stands resolute on monetary policy reform we see the potential for a significant shift in support and that will make for some very interesting debate in the business community,” says Pellett.

    This entry was posted on Thursday, June 24th, 2010 at 4:22 pm and is filed under Current Thinking. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
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    Check the FACTS, beware the SPIN and THINK FOR YOURSELVES folks!

    That is my considered opinion.

    :)

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  73. Maggie (672 comments) says:

    Penny you are far too articulate and well informed for this lot. And you don’t swear which is compulsory here.

    Keep up the good work.

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  74. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    @ Penny; you’re right; Selwyn Pellett WAS a supporter of Goff and Labour as recently as 2010. He may still be a supporter of Labour, but he’s certainly changed his tune over Goff, which makes his comments now even more newsworthy. Thank you for drawing our attention to that salient fact.

    (See Maggie; swearing isn’t compulsory at all, and Penny has indeed articulated a seachange in support for the current Labour leadership. Are you going to acknowledge that, or do you just follow them regardless?)

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  75. Maggie (672 comments) says:

    Well done Inventory 2.

    But Pellett’s comments are no more newsworthy than anyone else’s.

    He gets some things right and some wrong. People haven’t stopped listening to Labour under Goff, they stopped in the last term of Helen Clark and haven’t started again yet. They will.

    Goff isn’t a great leader but I’m not sure dumping him now is a good idea. Still, it worked for Julia Gillard.

    Inventory, I don’t follow anyone regardless. I leave that to people here who if Key was found in bed with a troupe of girl guides would tell us how nice it is that the PM takes an active interest in youth.

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  76. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    # Maggie (539) Says:
    April 8th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    Goff isn’t a great leader but I’m not sure dumping him now is a good idea. Still, it worked for Julia Gillard.”

    In my view, Phil Goff arguably was more effective at campaigning in the Botany by-election than was Prime Minister John Key.

    It appears that Labour voters got out and voted when asked.

    Over 9000 National (or are they now EX-National voters) – didn’t.

    Election results are the only poll that counts.

    FACT.

    :)

    Penny Bright
    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

    PS: “Penny you are far too articulate and well informed for this lot. And you don’t swear which is compulsory here.

    Keep up the good work.”

    Thanks.

    :)

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  77. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    “But Pellett’s comments are no more newsworthy than anyone else’s.”

    I agree somewhat with that, it seems to me a big stretch that the media made such a meal of a comment on a blog.
    In my mind I think they (the media) are actively pursuing Goff with a view to getting him rolled.

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  78. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    “# RightNow (2,515) Says
    April 8th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    “But Pellett’s comments are no more newsworthy than anyone else’s.”

    I agree somewhat with that, it seems to me a big stretch that the media made such a meal of a comment on a blog.
    In my mind I think they (the media) are actively pursuing Goff with a view to getting him rolled.”

    Goodness me ‘RightNow’ – we GRRRLS agree on this point!

    The question is WHY are (the media) actively pursuing Goff with a view to getting him rolled?

    WHO would benefit from (the media) actively pursuing Goff with a view to getting him rolled?

    WHO is behind this ‘media’ agenda of actively pursuing Goff with a view to getting him rolled?

    It’s not really very complicated – is it?

    :)

    Penny Bright
    waterpressure.wordpress.com

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  79. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    No I don’t think it’s complicated Penny. I think in general the media are left leaning and they’re keen to have a stronger Labour leader going in to this year’s election. They, like me, probably think the current situation is a farce.

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  80. Maggie (672 comments) says:

    This is another right wing fantasy. The media are all liberals. Have responded to that crap in the past, can’t be bothered doing it again. Some people are happier with their prejudices.

    Just file alongside: ”Leftwingers have no sense of humour” and move on.

    Penny I can imagine Goff would be good on the hustings. He’s a very nice guy. probably too nice to be in politics. Key pretends to be a nice guy, but is really a prick.

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  81. publicwatchdog (2,593 comments) says:

    “# Maggie (576) Says:
    April 8th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    This is another right wing fantasy. The media are all liberals. Have responded to that crap in the past, can’t be bothered doing it again. Some people are happier with their prejudices.

    Just file alongside: ”Leftwingers have no sense of humour” and move on.

    Penny I can imagine Goff would be good on the hustings. He’s a very nice guy. probably too nice to be in politics. Key pretends to be a nice guy, but is really a prick.”

    Hi Maggie, at the risk of being completely boring, I will (again) remind people of the results of the Botany by-election – arguably the only poll that really counts.

    Over 9000 (former?) National party voters – didn’t.

    Phil Goff, out in Botany campaigning on the issues – including opposition to asset sales – arguably helped to increase the Labour Party vote, whilst Prime Minister John Key appears to have had the opposite effect.

    So – who is the more effective politician out of National and Labour if you consider the Botany by-election results?

    On the basis of the FACTS and EVIDENCE – I would argue Phil Goff.

    National Prime Minister John Key effectively BEGGED National Party voters to get out and vote, and in return was effectively given the fingers.

    More (ex?) National Party voters stayed home than voted, compared with EX-National Party MP Pansy Wong’s over 17,000 2008 electorate vote – (over 9000 stayed home – just over 8000 voted) while Labour proportionately managed to get out more of their voters.

    It is my considered opinion, as some one who was actually out there on the hustings, that John Key’s/ National’s support for (asset sales) is a significantly unpopular VOTE LOSER.

    Those 9000 (ex?) National party voters still get power bills every month, and have arguably not suffered some form of ‘collective frontal lobotomy’ when remembering former National Minister of Energy Max Bradford’s lies that the electricity ‘reforms’ would lead to cheaper power for consumers?

    Where will those 9000 votes go?

    It is my prediction that NZ First will pick up a significant number of those disaffected (ex?) National Party votes.

    Yes – I personally didn’t get a very high vote – but when some of those 124 who did give me electoral support in the Botany by-election, give campaign support in the Howick by-election, it could all become rather fascinating…. :)

    Think that there are a LOT of (former and current ?) National party voters who will support the call for NO RATE$ INCREASES!
    ‘CUT OUT THE CONSULTANTS AND PRIVATE CONTRACTORS’!

    (Unless, of course they themselves are one of the ‘consultant’ or ‘private contractor’ ‘piggies-in-the-middle’ with their snouts deep in the Auckland Council public trough? :)

    Penny Bright

    http://waterpressure.wordpress.com

    (My contact details are on my blog for anyone who is keen to help :)

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