PSA fail
April 8th, 2011 at 8:01 am by David FarrarOh dear. Someone at the PSA is going to be busy today. They have set up a website where you can create your own billboard, complaining about various “nice to haves” that you think the Government may be cutting. However I doubt they thought through the wisdom of having it unmoderated on their own website. Some of the billboards I can’t repeat on a family site, but some of the ones I laughed at are:
- Nice to have – swiss balls
- Nice to have – A website with no HTML errors
- Nice to have – Key rather than that other bloke
- Nice to have – your mum
- Nice to have – a 12 inch c**k
- Nice to have – an original idea, instead of stealing John Ansell’s
- Nice to have – Scott Walker as Governor of Wisconsin
- Nice to have – an opposition leader
My thanks to the PSA for such fun reading.
Tags: billboards, PSA
April 8th, 2011 at 8:15 am
You know, most people of a mature disposition would think that some of those are rather pathetic. Both ways.
Vote:In any case, whether the sentiment is a positive or negative to the PSA’s sentiment it still get’s it noticed.
The epic fail was Bill English using the ‘nice to have’ mantra in the first place. What was he thinking?
April 8th, 2011 at 8:22 am
m@tt – must be awesome to be so
Vote:boringmature. Back to your crossword.April 8th, 2011 at 8:24 am
Oh dear oh dear….. That idea has backfired on them somewhat.
But seriously, it just shows how “unconnected to the real world” they are, that they thought there were only going to be messages consistent with their view posted.
Of course, within the next few hours, this will be “fixed” and only messages consistent with their view will remain (not that I actually saw any).
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:31 am
You missed a fun night DPF; one of the most amusing I saw was “my clothes, after a night out with Darren Hughes” – comedy gold!
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:31 am
All they need is someone to weed out the right wing spam and other offensive material
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Hahaa, classic fail!
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Whichever of the comrades at the PSA who allowed humour & dissenting opinion to sully the website will be having his cardigan & brown shoes shredded as I type.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:39 am
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Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Like the PSA, Inky, you’ve totally missed the point. Which is that the PSA can’t even build a website that does what they want it to, let alone teach kids to read.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:44 am
When do members of the PSA teach kids to read?
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Inky_the_Red said
Inky illustrates everything that is wrong with the left. They have no sense of humour, and take themselves far too seriously. Surely there is SOMEONE at the PSA will be able to see the irony and the humour of this massive social media fail.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:47 am
At the moment, when you click on http://psa.org.nz/nicetohave.asp, you are redirected to http://www.national.org.nz/
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:49 am
annie seems to confuse the PSA with the PPTA or the NZEI.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Nice to have: People who take full responsibility for themselves and their families.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Had some fun with a few answers, but they have broken their script now.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 8:57 am
last night was fun, this morning had only a few (dissenting at that) as well as a link to National’s website, and now all posts seem to be in full support of the PSA’s position, and my access is denied. Someone will be given some stern looks over glasses today!
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 9:13 am
That’s ok fizzleplug; the VRWC has enough screenshots to keep this pumping for a while, and deleting all the dissenting opinion merely exposes the PSA for what it really is; a branch of the Labour Party, where free speech is banned, and dissent will not be tolerated.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 9:14 am
I just put in “a good secure government job” and it came back ‘Permission denied’!
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Yep, they’ve shut down the fun!
My nice to have would have been: JK’s index finger in my pickle jar!
After all, my Maori mates tell me we taste delicious
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Inky_the_Red @ 8.31am
How does the irony get under your radar? You comment frequently at this right leaning blog & generally your wafflings are tolerated with good humour & to the best of my knowledge are never censored. The second that the right get a chance to correct your mistakes on a left wing site the hunt is on to find someone to screen all comments for dissenting opinion.
Is the philosophy of the union movement so weak that it must be protected in a way that would make Stalin proud? What is so precious of your arguments that they cannot be tested in an open forum?
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 9:27 am
This is just for Inventory, from a leftie with no sense of humour:
Little Boy: Mum, what is an IQ?
Mum: It is a measure of intelligence, darling, it tells you how brainy you are.
LB: Oh. So what is an IQ300?
M: That’s a very intelligent person, son, a genius.
LB: Oh. So what is an IQ4?
M: That is a very stupid person, my boy. Someone with an IQ4 wouldn’t even be able to tie his own shoelaces.
LB: Oh. Does that explain why Aussies wear thongs?
I have never been able to understand why rightwingers convince themselves lefties don’t have a sense of humour. We both do, we just laugh at different things.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Nice to have MP’s who not trying to stick their parts into teenagers.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Wow, you actually think thats funny Maggie? No, really. I think you just more firmly underlined the premise if anything.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Because you’re a bunch of poo faced whinging little twerps whenit comes your way while claiming to be the height of wit to call a conservative gay Maggie.
Glad i could help you with that sweeping generalisation. And if we’re going to down the smeer by lingusitic progamming path they’re socialists, not “lefties”.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Luc:
Re: ‘lefties don’t have a sense of humour … we just laugh at different things’.
Agreed, and no problem with that as a concept, the problem is that lefties (aka ‘Socialists’) INSIST (sometimes to the point of death) that EVERYONE laugh at THEIR (the lefties) different things – and take action to make sure that it happens (OR ELSE!!) – as proven very visably by the now ‘conformist’ PSA site which started this thread.
The ‘left’s’ guiding mantra seems to be ( to revive an old phrase), that ‘VE VILL HAFF ODER!! (or else!)
(Sits back and waits for inevitable display of socialist’s lack of humour)
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 9:56 am
You can still crate your own by copying the following link and typing in your caption after the = sign : http://psa.org.nz/nicetohave.asp?mytext=More of the cash I Earn
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Um
Komata
I think you should be talking to maggie.
You really shouldn’t hit the bottle so early.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Whats you’re excuse Luc? Dropped on your head or dugs?
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 10:13 am
So now that we’ve established that you have a sense of humour Maggie (and if you can take the piss out of Aussies you can’t be all bad
), don’t you think that this was funny?
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Anyone here webby enough to host our own version?
Nice to have: political dialogue that doesn’t censor opposing viewpoints.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Komata @ 9.55am
Indeed the defining idiosyncrasy of a socialist is “compulsion”. A few quick examples:
1) I’ve given up smoking but it’s tough going….. BAN tobacco.
2) I’m too lazy to cook decent food…TAX fatty foods.
3) Our union is corrupt & self serving & no one wants to join…. COMPULSORY unionism.
4) The right wingers are landing a few good shots on our website….CENSOR them.
Note that the followers of the left have as much room for independent thought & action as a battery hen but at least it frees them from the problems of creating their own destinies. All a good comrade needs to do is ask the union boss for the mantra of the day.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Support from the PSA when things turn to custard rather than being fobbed off
OUCH!!!!! Bet that one will disappear.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 10:50 am
I2, yes I do. I think they were all funny. The PSA needs to lighten up a bit.
I know this will never get through to you guys, but I am not a Labour Party groupie. I prefer Labour to National, but have never lost sight of Labour’s many failings.
The real groupies are the “National is always right, Labour is always wrong” bunch who have never learnedv to think for themselves.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 11:10 am
There are many groupies in the “National is always wrong, Labour is always correct” mob too. And there are some outside of parliament too.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Fair call, not enough coffee. I think I can be excused though given the similarity of the noises they make.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 11:33 am
@ Annie – indeed, a simple mistake; they all sing from the same red-covered songbook …
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 11:41 am
The real groupies are the “National is always right, Labour is always wrong” bunch who have never learnedv to think for themselves.
Bare faced hypocrisy. FFS Maggie did you even manage to type that with a straight face?
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Luc
You are of course correct, so my apologies sir – ‘finger trouble’.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
The PSA is now claiming that the website was subject to “a malicious attack by hackers” last night. All I can say to that is “Bollocks”! They invited people to contribute; now they don’t like it because people took up their invitation!
http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/04/when-social-media-goes-wrong-ii.html
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
If it redirected to National for a period of time, then I’d guess that was a malicious attack.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Bevan (3,384) Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 11:41 am
The real groupies are the “National is always right, Labour is always wrong” bunch who have never learnedv to think for themselves.
Bare faced hypocrisy. FFS Maggie did you even manage to type that with a straight face?
Piss off, Bevan. You are one of the least interesting people here and that’s saying something.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
I2′s last post is right on the mark. The PSA asked for it and got it. That outfit never did have a sense of humour. If the Nats did hack into it, who could blame them?
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
@ PaulL; that may be the case had the PSA webmasters not deleted all the posters that were anti-union or anti-Labour. They are running for cover IMHO.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Inventory2: two different things.
1. A potential hacking event, where someone redirected the website to National. That is probably illegal, and isn’t the kind of thing any political party should be involved with. And if someone did that, it was also counterproductive, as it now gives air cover as they prattle on about how they were hacked without the media realising there are two different things going on.
2. A silly web site that allows people to put up anything they think is funny, and which therefore requires moderation if you’re trying to actually use it for political advantage. That is an own goal, and I think is kind of moderately funny. Mostly I think their concept is dumb, derivative, and the whole “nice to have = tax cuts for the rich” is just piss weak.
These are very different things, and just because many people on the left can’t reason properly doesn’t mean that the right has to be similarly incompetent.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
The problem was the PSA didn’t “escape” any of the data being submitted, so it was possible to insert Javascript into the page yourself. That’s how someone made the page redirect to the Nat’s homepage. They would have posted something like this window.location=’http://some.web.address.here/’; Any sane programmer would have escaped it server side so people couldn’t inject raw html or scripts. Opening yourself up like that can have much worse consequences, and it’s entirely their own fault.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Piss off, Bevan. You are one of the least interesting people here and that’s saying something.
It seems I hit a nerve.
Calm down mag’s – don’t want you to have a heart attack.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
D’oh, WordPress stripped out part of my post. See WP can escape/parse out stuff. why can’t the PSA? What it should have looked like was this, although you’d need to replace the square brackets with less than and greater than: [script]window.location=’http://some.web.address.here/’;[/script]
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
What is really funny is that a huge whack of public servants are well into the “rich prick” category by way of the salaries and perks. How about they all get a reduction in wages to bring them ALL down to below Rich Prick level immediately.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Maggie said
This Nat (well, supporter; not member) didn’t hack it, but boy did he have some fun last night. Mrs Inv must have wondered what on the laptop was the cause of so much merriment!
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Here’s a clue for the PSA, the Leader of the Opposition’s office and, it seems, almost anyone on the left: you need to hire professionals to handle your strategy and communications.
Don’t hire shiny little acolytes, because what you need are skeptics who’ll rubbish your ideas before they ever reach the wider public – that way only the most robust concepts will ever be seen. And don’t rate them on how much they grovel to your “leadership” because what you need is someone who’s going to bluntly tell them when they’re stupid.
Actually, make that “almost anyone on the left and right”. National can only get away with John Key smiling for so long before people actually want sensible answers, and Act… well their communications people need to carry a tazer.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Nice to have – the ‘bureaurocracy’ rather than the (much more expensive) ‘contractocracy’?
Penny Bright
Vote:http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
April 8th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Have folk considered that the old ‘left’ vs ‘right’ has been pretty much out of date since the ‘Rogernomics reforms’ which were initiated by the ‘left’ Labour Government, and carried on by the ‘right’ National Government?
In my view, the more appropriate ‘line in the sand’ is: ‘public’ vs ‘corporate’.
In my view, if you apply that ‘public’ vs ‘corporate’ yardstick to almost every issue, in terms of whose interests will be served and where exactly will the money go, things tend to become a lot clearer, a lot quicker.
Next step, on an issue by issue basis, work out with whom you have ‘common cause’.
Broaden the base – narrow the target, on an issue by issue basis.
That, in my view, is the secret to being politically effective.
Penny Bright
Vote:http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
April 8th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Has anyone brought the domain name “nicetohave.co.nz” yet..? So those of the right can have the fun last for months..?
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@ Penny Blight “That, in my view, is the secret to being politically effective”
Penny, best to actually be politically effective before passing on the ‘secret’.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
‘public’ vs ‘corporate’
Corporate is as necessary as public. Both have there strengths, weaknesses and associated problems.
We’d be a lot worse off if we didn’t have corporations, and a lot of people would be better off if they didn’t support by buying so much rubbish from corporations.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Bevan (3,388) Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Piss off, Bevan. You are one of the least interesting people here and that’s saying something.
It seems I hit a nerve.
Calm down mag’s – don’t want you to have a heart attack.
No, bevs, you don’t hit any nerves, just get on them. You are without doubt one of the most boring bastards I have ever encountered.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Nice to have: the top 3% of earners carrying 26% of the tax burden
Nice to have: the bottom 21% of earners carrying only 1% of the tax burden
http://www.treasury.govt.nz/budget/2009/taxpayers/01.htm
Spread it around every time you hear “giving tax cuts to the rich”.
“Giving tax cuts to the rich” = “Still taking much more from the rich than the poor, just a little less so”.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
No, bevs, you don’t hit any nerves, just get on them. You are without doubt one of the most boring bastards I have ever encountered.
Sounding very shrill there Mags. Calm down lass, maybe a cup of tea and a lie down might be in order – hate to hear you’ve had a stroke or the old ticker goes on the blink from your elevated blood pressure.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
“You are without doubt one of the most boring bastards I have ever encountered.”
I find that hard to believe unless Maggie lives in a house without mirrors.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Sorry, guys, I would reply, but I fell asleep halfway…….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Bevs, grateful for your concerns about my health. Somewhere under your boring exterior, there is an even more boring person, isn’t there?
RN, don’t try to be funny, it doesn’t work. Just concentrate on being totally bland, you’re good at that.
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
# tankyman (101) Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@ Penny Blight “That, in my view, is the secret to being politically effective”
Penny, best to actually be politically effective before passing on the ‘secret’.”
# tankyman – respectfully suggest you do a little more homework before you make such comments?
If you want some considered opinions about my ‘political effectiveness’ I suggest you contact John Key, Bill English, Lockwood Smith, Rodney Hide, John Carter, Tim Groser, Simon Power, Chris Finlayson, Michael Stiassny, John Banks and Len Brown?
Just for starters?
Penny Bright
http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
For starters?
Vote:April 8th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
I’ll bite – why would Michael Stiassny think you’re effective?
Vote:April 9th, 2011 at 10:16 am
# RightNow (2,519) Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
I’ll bite – why would Michael Stiassny think you’re effective?”
Michael Stiassny resigned as Chair of Metrowater’s Board of Directors, 4 days after I personally served him with a witness summons to come to Court.
In my considered opinion, Michael Stiassny is a corporate thug (I have told him this to his face), and bully.
He tried to have some Water Pressure Group members bankrupted over their boycott of DISPUTED Metrowater bills.
As usual – when you stand up to bullies you find that they are gutless, and can’t take what they like to dish out to others.
(Without lawyers, Water Pressure Group members won 6 -1 in the High Court against these bankruptcy charges.
That is another story………………
http://tvnz.co.nz/content/999317/425823.xhtml
(There is a factual inaccuracy in this TVNZ report.
I am NOT on any ‘benefit’ – I am self-funded.
Although I am happy for anyone who supports the unpaid work which I am doing, to give a donation towards expenses.
Penny Bright
Vote:http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
April 9th, 2011 at 11:27 am
“# Rick Rowling (202) Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Nice to have: the top 3% of earners carrying 26% of the tax burden
Nice to have: the bottom 21% of earners carrying only 1% of the tax burden
http://www.treasury.govt.nz/budget/2009/taxpayers/01.htm
Spread it around every time you hear “giving tax cuts to the rich”.
“Giving tax cuts to the rich” = “Still taking much more from the rich than the poor, just a little less so”.
How much tax are companies paying?
In total $$$ and compared with salary and wage earners?
Got the Treasury ‘link’ for that one?
That would be great.
Thanks!
Penny Bright
Vote:http://waterpressure.wordpress.com
April 10th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
“How much tax are companies paying?
In total $$$ and compared with salary and wage earners?”
Ummm, but how do salary and wage earners end up paying tax in the first place? Oh that’s right they earn salary and wages from companies or the Govt. So whatever tax a company pays it is on top of the salary and wages, it has already paid out, which have also been taxed.
Another question should be how much “working for families” payments do companies get – oh that’s right NONE!!!
So a small company that retains $55,000 in taxable profit pays $16,500 in tax whereas a family with 3 kids (under 13) earning $55k effectively pays no tax at all.
Vote:April 10th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
“# Zarchoff (82) Says:
April 10th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
“How much tax are companies paying?
In total $$$ and compared with salary and wage earners?”
Ummm, but how do salary and wage earners end up paying tax in the first place? Oh that’s right they earn salary and wages from companies or the Govt. So whatever tax a company pays it is on top of the salary and wages, it has already paid out, which have also been taxed.
Another question should be how much “working for families” payments do companies get – oh that’s right NONE!!!
So a small company that retains $55,000 in taxable profit pays $16,500 in tax whereas a family with 3 kids (under 13) earning $55k effectively pays no tax at all.”
Think you may find that it is the big companies that don’t pay much tax?
Am a little bit busy right now – but I will do some research on that later………
Unless, of course, someone has already done so and wants to share the information, (as I do?
Penny Bright
Vote:http://waterpressure.wordpress.com