Armstrong on Key

May 11th, 2011 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

writes in the NZ Herald:

Labour was truly firing in Parliament yesterday – with the accuracy of an antique blunderbuss.

The major Opposition party is aiming all its barrels in ’s direction in the hope something hits. But the target has suffered only the occasional flesh wound and otherwise seems to be functioning normally.

Labour’s current parliamentary tactic is to turn ministers’ question-time into New Zealand’s equivalent of Prime Minister’s question-time in the British House of Commons.

The party devoted its allocation of five questions solely to going after Key.

But be it the cost of repainting Premier House or money for promoting the Maori tourist industry, Key was sufficiently well briefed yesterday to make mincemeat of his interrogators from Labour’s more junior ranks.

The only thing better than watching the House, is also viewing Twitter at the same time. A gaggle of Labour MPs complain in chorus about how dare the PM say this or that.

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39 Responses to “Armstrong on Key”

  1. GMDI (71 comments) says:

    Which labour mp’s do you follow? I love comical twits

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  2. 103PapPap (125 comments) says:

    A ‘gaggle’ of Labour MPs – that must be the rainbow section!

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  3. BeaB (2,058 comments) says:

    He was smoking today.

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  4. Frederick (39 comments) says:

    Today was even better. Key was in blistering form savaging the opposition fodder and on occasions very funny. Why labour persist on wasting todays questions on DPS, BMW’s and having Mallard retread those old twin chestnuts Merrill Lynch and Lehman Brothers is utterly beyond me.

    Who ever determines their parliamentary strategy should really be taken out the back and shot. They simply do not have a clue.

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  5. Innocent bystander (163 comments) says:

    It is a dumb strategy on so many different levels. Firstly they’ve been trying it ever since Key became leader and it has never worked. It brings to mind the quote, that is so famous that I’ve forgotton who said it, that the definition of insanity is to keep on doing the same thing expecting to get a different outcome.

    Secondly it is attacking the government’s strongest point when they would be much better off attacking areas of weakness (weak ministers, asset sales, record deficit, cost of living? Hello? Anyone in Labour paying any attention to reality whatsoever????)

    Thirdly the public like and trust John Key, attacking Key is effectively telling the public that they are stupid…treating the public like idiots and thinking that Labour knows best is unfortunately par for the course but it is not going to get them any closer to a seat in a ministerial BMW.

    At the end of the day, if they are this dumb in opposition why the hell would you want them in Government?

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  6. RightNow (6,659 comments) says:

    BeaB (780) Says:
    May 11th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
    He was smoking today.

    Perhaps he should try Champix.

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  7. Neil (556 comments) says:

    BeaBe is absolutely correct. Goff is trying to nail him but he can’t get close to him. He has mastered the dispatch box routine well and is just so entertaining. It’s all done with a lot of humour unlike Hulun who was always so nasty and vindicative. English is always quick too, they are a great pair. Much more pleasant than Hulun and Cullen.
    Trevor Mallard doesn’t help Labour with his pathetic “poo’s”,points of order.
    Still good to see Lockwood Smith keep up a great atmosphere in the debating chamber- quite a difference to the shambles that Margaret Wilson used to preside over.

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  8. Frederick (39 comments) says:

    Key was in blistering form today (and oftern very funny) easily swatting aside the opposition. He almost seemed in early campaign form.

    Why labour persist in question time (as in today) with trivialities such as DPS, BMW’s and Mallard retreading those twin chestnuts Merrill Lynch and Lehman Brothers is completely beyond me.

    Whoever is in charge of labours parliamentary strategy should be taken out the back and shot. They simply do not have a clue.

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  9. lastmanstanding (1,204 comments) says:

    the probelm is for Her Majestys Loyal Opposition is TINA as Maggie T put it.

    And they know it. Goof and his rag tag bunch of mates have driven the economy in the ground over a decade and have no credible alternative to offer.

    If they promote raising taxes that will send even more of the best and brightest offshore.

    Borrowing more?? JK and BE are already borrowing as much as the foreign bankers will lend.

    Cut Gumint expenditure? From a Socialists party?

    Raise Gumint expenditure? Financed from either of the first 2 above?

    Nope they have no alternative so thats why they try and play the man not the ball. Problem is the man has incredible popularity thats rising as he takes all the hard decisions.

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  10. Monty (964 comments) says:

    And in the meantime the popularity of John Key soars even higher as Labour give him even more publicity.

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  11. KiwiGreg (3,176 comments) says:

    “If they promote raising taxes that will send even more of the best and brightest offshore.”

    This is in fact in their plans and I think they are totally ok with the outcome as it reduces the pool of non-Labour voters.

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  12. ch123 (565 comments) says:

    >> If they promote raising taxes that will send even more of the best and brightest offshore.

    > This is in fact in their plans and I think they are totally ok with the outcome as it reduces the pool of non-Labour voters.

    It also reduces the pool of people who actually pay net tax.

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  13. Courage Wolf (559 comments) says:

    Everyone here on this blog is severely underestimating Labour come this election. Their ability to come up with last-minute extreme spending bribes which the general ignorant mum and dad voter (God fuck their merry souls) will fall for is incredible. I would not be surprised if they manage to get their support back up to the 40% mark.

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  14. tom hunter (4,414 comments) says:

    lastmanstanding hits the nail on the head. I made the same point over on the “Message” thread.

    The left blogs like the Dimpost can jump up and down about Labour’s incompetence as much as they like (there’s certainly a lot of truth to it).

    But the reality is that they cannot offer anything new or different to National that does not amount to even greater spending, backed up by either more borrowing (which they’re supposedly annoyed about with National) and/or tax increases.

    My bet is they’ll go with tax increases, irrespective of whether they actually garner more money, let alone whether they can close the deficit and slowly reduce the debt. It’s a good soundbite that will garner their envy votes and fulfills their deep ideological need to stick it to “the rich” and spread the wealth around. They cannot avoid it – and it will be utterly useless in the face of what is coming.

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  15. SPC (5,392 comments) says:

    The Herald has suggested Labour propose a CGT.

    They should add government investment in new housing in Auckland – this will cut welfare costs, increase GST, company tax and income tax revenue (houses have to be fitted etc) – once the houses are built they can be sold and the borrowing debt repaid.

    If this does not happen, rents will rise due to shortages and so will house prices – causing a blow-out of foreign debt (mortgages on higher value homes). This will cost National the 2014 election.

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  16. shady (251 comments) says:

    Labour have done it again in parliament accusing John Key of corruption receiving donations from Ak BMW dealer 2 days after the Ministerial BMW’s were signed for. Here is the Press Release from John Key’s office.
    http://www.national.org.nz/Article.aspx?articleId=35938

    Epic Fail yet again from Labour.

    I think TV1 are going to try and do a beat up on John Key about it tonight. Be interesting to see if it is modified or a full our beat up.

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  17. Inventory2 (10,100 comments) says:

    Funniest thing today was Parker lambasting the Nats for not having rejuvenated. Had he looked to his right, he would have seen Phil Goff (Class of 1981), Annette King (1984) and Trevor Mallard (1984). It just underlined how two-faced Labour MP’s are.

    And Maurice Williamson nailed it in the General Debate. While Mallard, Hodgson and Hipkins ranted and raved about John Key, Williamson said that the two things that influence voters are their hip pockets and their children’s futures. Labour might get the message; sometime around 2017 ;-)

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  18. SHG (363 comments) says:

    No party has the courage to do anything which will offend the Baby Boomers. CGT? forget it. Raise retirement age? forget it. Cut the free-travel gold card? forget it.

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  19. Inventory2 (10,100 comments) says:

    @ Shady – you know how that works eh; Kris Fa’afoi and his close colleague Fran Mold give the titbits to their One News former colleagues; so much for the independance of TVNZ; it is the broadcasting arm of the Goffice

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  20. PaulP (141 comments) says:

    CW at 5:02pm – I agree. In opposition you can promise the world and if enough stupid people think you can deliver on the promises then you could get in office.

    For example – increase the top personal tax rate to say 40% and let’s say that brings in an extra half a billion (I don’t know the numbers but this is just an example) then promise to increase benefits, educational spending, health spend, police spend etc etc etc – promises might cost an extra 4 billion and hope people are too stupid to wonder where the extra 3.5 billion will come from.

    If National have to make spending cuts because of the deficit and Labour promise the earth who knows what could happen on election day. Scary stuff.

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  21. DrDr (108 comments) says:

    Labour’s strategists are intellectually and morally bankrupt. If I was a member of their party, I would call in the liquidators

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  22. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    DrDr

    Having had to fight Mana (electorate) then by the time they’ve fought Te Tai Tokerau, they may very well be calling in the liquidators given that they are no longer in a position to steal taxpayer money to fund their campaign.

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  23. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    They had the idiot Cuncliffe on morning tele, asked what Liarbore would do fix the deficit the retard waffled on for about a minute but did not have one idea. When pushed all the noddy could come up with was Liarbore would make sure everyone would pay their share of tax. Fuck off you thieving brain dead socialist git most of your clients don’t pay tax at all. I do wish these pricks would do the country a favour and get on a plane and fuck off for ever.

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  24. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    “I do wish these pricks would do the country a favour and get on a plane and fuck off for ever.”

    bob, can I just say that that is a great message to get out there. Perhaps they should have to pay back the million bucks they stole first.

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  25. ch123 (565 comments) says:

    I have to laugh every time I hear someone from Labour (or the other leftie parties for that matter) say something along the lines of everyone paying their fair share of tax. People don’t pay their fair share of tax now, but not in the way Labour seem to think. What is it, something like 20% of people pay 70% of the tax? I’m all for people on actual lower incomes paying less tax, but beyond that it should be a flat rate. You already pay more by virtue of earning more money. Where’s the logic you should pay a higher percentage of your income in tax as you earn more?

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  26. Rich Prick (1,552 comments) says:

    “Labour have done it again in parliament accusing John Key of corruption receiving donations from Ak BMW dealer 2 days after the Ministerial BMW’s were signed for.”

    Notwithstanding that, why would a BMW dealership not make a donantion to National? Making one to Labour would be pointless given Labour’s demographic, it would be like Greenpeace making a donation to BP.

    I would encourage Mercedes-Benz and and a few others to take BMW’s lead, and include ACT next time.

    Lets also think about donations made to Labour by the various unions in return for employment laws that suit them, huh?

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  27. Nookin (3,035 comments) says:

    Rich Prick
    Good point if you have to go that far. Seems to me that labour has to overcome credibility hurdle number 1 which is the fact that Labour signed the contract, not National and credibilty hurdle number 2 which is the fact that the company that made the donation did not sell the vehicles. Regrettably, one can only conclude that this attack is not only desparate, it is dishonest much like the bitch over protection and house painting.

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  28. Rich Prick (1,552 comments) says:

    Nookin, I agree and had already got past the incredulous position Labour has taken, given that Labour sealed the deal and they are different companies. But most on the left including the media are simple souls who can’t cope with such fine legal distinctions (I sometimes wonder if they are deliberately stupid).

    So, you have to shame them with their own behaviour. If they are hinting at corruption, which they are, who can forget the “justifiable corruption” defence advanced after Labour nicked $850k to keep National “Trotted” out in 2005. At least National has never had its hand in the till.

    Until Labour refuse to take union donations-for-labour-law-favours, they are simply hot air and have no credibility. This is probably why Hipkins was given this bit of dirty work, they can’t afford to have the old work-horses to run this pile of shite.

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  29. Nookin (3,035 comments) says:

    Without, of course, forgetting that winston lied, labour knew he lied and labour stood by him (even voting his way on the disciplinary committee) for no reason other than its desparation to stay in power.

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  30. Rich Prick (1,552 comments) says:

    Haha, Winston Raymond Peters … (presumably) unemployed thief. Labour sure loved him up over his $156k theft. Between Labour and NZ First we could have painted Premier House 6 times over! And that example just shows you how pathetic the issues are and worse, the coverage they are getting.

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  31. Bob (479 comments) says:

    Labour seems to have difficulty finding anything of substance to throw at John Key

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  32. magic bullet (776 comments) says:

    I hope Armstrong sees it worth his while to report on BMWgate (called it).

    “The National Party received a donation from a BMW franchise just days after a deal was made for the government to buy a new fleet of cars.”

    Ouch – this type of crony governance by fiat (feel free to repeat the pun) – is going to ware thin at some stage. A death by a thousand cuts.

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  33. Nookin (3,035 comments) says:

    mb
    Do you ever wonder about or comment on the almost total dependance that labour has on union support or is that off limits. And while you make veiled hints at corrupt practices, would you not have thought it relevant to point out firstly that labour made the first contact with BMW, Labour signed the contract, the donating entity has no apparent financial interest in the contract and that chief hypocrite and mudslinger, Chris Whateverhisnameis last year sat on a committee that endorsed the acquisition of new vehicles — seemingly without dissent. Or does it not suit your agenda to point to these issues?

    Read “Where is Hipkins dissenting report”

    http://whaleoil.gotcha.co.nz/

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  34. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    Nookin

    Why would any of that be relevant to mb? Was it you the other day who referred to non sequiturs and arguments ex silentio?

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  35. Paulus (2,502 comments) says:

    Sad that our brightest leave for Australia most, because actually their economy is not too good in fact.

    Swan says return to surplus in 2 years – Labour in Australia have “never ever” achieved a surplus.

    Labour in New Zealand should be glad of those left in the country, they can never go to Australia, even as a visitor, with few exceptions agreed in advance, as they have a criminal conviction.

    Labour’s real base is secure.

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  36. Nookin (3,035 comments) says:

    Silly me. Different rules for different folks.

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  37. BeaB (2,058 comments) says:

    If I remember correctly, the tax increase Labour nastily inflicted on ‘top earners’ brought in a paltry sum. Goff said yesterday, National should start by taking back the tax cut given to people earning over $1 million a year. I wonder how many there are of them in NZ?
    Is this the best Labour can do?

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  38. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Magic Bullet, you need to take something stronger, whatever you’re on isn’t doing the job. And how is the fundraising working out for you socialist gits these days?. Hard to raise money when the cookie jar has been slammed shut, much easier to steal rather then beg. Also it must be a real bugger trying to convince donators your non ideas are not the same shit your bent ideology tried to pull last election.

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  39. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    BeaB

    That’s because they all buggared off. Don’t forget what happened in 2007/2008. PAYE tanked by about $700 million before unemployment was even affected by the big global credit clanger. People just buggared off. Says something about the skill sets of the inbound migrants that Clark trumpeted gave rise to something like 10,000 or 12,000 net positive migration. Their only qualification was the likely prospect that they would vote Labour by being able to come here as beneficiaries.

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