Banks confirmed for Epsom

May 28th, 2011 at 2:39 pm by David Farrar

John Banks has been confirmed by as their candidate in . On the latest public poll, would have two MPs if John wins Epsom – hmself and Don Brash. However they have six months topick up further support.

The focus will be now go on whom National will select.

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37 Responses to “Banks confirmed for Epsom”

  1. berend (1,671 comments) says:

    Who needs ACT?

    We have Sprinkle Bill with the magic dust of economic growth, and John “let’s-keep-Labour-policies” Key attracting swaths of Labour voters. And National Party voters are happy with any direction this country takes, as long as National is in power.

    $380 million borrowing a week? The children can worry about that later.

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  2. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,819 comments) says:

    Somehow I don’t think DPF will be betting the farm on ACT getting only 2 MPs at the election.

    Keep up the propaganda campaign though, it’s fun to see what happens to someone when they lose playing a zero sum game.

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  3. wat dabney (3,714 comments) says:

    Truly you need the wisdom of Solomon: to vote for National/Labour and allow the country to fall into bankruptcy and ruin or to vote for the nauseating Banks to get ACT over the line.

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  4. Viking2 (11,220 comments) says:

    Leopards never change their spots and Banks is never going to be an ACT person. He will morph back to his roots and be a good Nat. when he returns to WGTN. Of course with the Deputy Leaders salary.

    Sad day for ACT.

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  5. Rex Widerstrom (5,307 comments) says:

    Interesting approach… they’re effectively going to the electorate with a new party, albeit with a known name. And one which most voters will struggle to understand since, as Viking2 points out, they know Banks is a dyed-in-the-wool blue blood, while Brash makes Douglas look moderate and well considered (which in fact he is).

    It’s like running a ticket with Winston Peters and Ruth Richardson and calling it the Whigs. People are just going to go “WTF?” and shy away from an unknown – and clearly unstable – mix.

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  6. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    What about the sympathy vote though. All those Jaffas who voted for Loony Len instead of Banksy and are bloody well regretting now.

    He will be a shoo in in Epsom.

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  7. JeffW (323 comments) says:

    This is hard to understand. Judging from his awful campaign for the Super City mayoralty, Banks is well and truly past it and needs to go into retirement.

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  8. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    National should select Melissa Lee, the perfect candidate.

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  9. Positan (384 comments) says:

    re wat

    It seems to be a fairly consistent and widespread phenomenon – focus solely on your personal feelings towards the candidate and dismiss as irrelevant their actual capabilities and possible performance potential.

    Labour does it all the time – and just look at their sorry bunch of no-hopers – almost none of them in possession of anything like the sort of businesslike attitudes or qualifications needed to run a bath, let alone a country.

    Awkward personalities I can live with provided their competence is demonstrated- incompetent posturers, safe-seat-holding troughers and single-issue-riding dreamers we can all do without.

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  10. nasska (10,834 comments) says:

    Positan

    A kind person on a good hair day just might grit his teeth & describe Banks as having an awkward personality. Trouble is any abilities he does have he keeps well hidden & a track record as a failed mayor, a former National MP & a mediocre talk back host hardly makes him stand out in a crowd.

    Such dubious competence may be tolerated in Epsom but to the rest of the country he is just another mouth almighty recycled tosser.

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  11. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Anyone who likes German Shepherds, rides a Harley, can fly a plane and chopper (and isn’t queer) is OK by me to be an MP. :)

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  12. holysheet (286 comments) says:

    I fail to see what the problem you all have with JB.
    Wait until the good folk in epsom have their say, they are the only ones who can decide his future.

    Is it true that Perigo is Acts media person?

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  13. nasska (10,834 comments) says:

    Johnboy

    He’s wasting his time anyway…don’t forget Water Woman is contesting Epsom.

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  14. toad (3,672 comments) says:

    However they have six months topick up further support.

    Or to see it further diminish.

    The focus will be now go on whom National will select.

    Christine Fletcher? Back to the Future completed!

    Why can’t these has-beens like Banks and Brash just go away? At least Douglas has finally made the right call (unless we see his next resurrection when he is 82).

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  15. Courage Wolf (559 comments) says:

    The media really ought to get some comment from Brash regarding how he feels about the 1.7% and 2% polling.

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  16. Johnboy (15,410 comments) says:

    Why can’t these has-beens like Banks and Brash just go away?

    They probably will when they get really old like Jimbo toad. :)

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  17. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Toad

    Never doubt the capacity for politicians to leap into any trough that is available, 82 is young, Bob Tizard served on one of the health boards until 2008 and I am pretty sure he was actually dead at the time.

    Walter Nash is rumoured to be viaing for a place on the labour list

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  18. James (1,338 comments) says:

    Banks was and is a social conservative who suggested gays need barbed wire shoved up their anus’s……nice little bigot.

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  19. orewa1 (428 comments) says:

    This will actually be a dilemma for National. No matter what you might think about Banks, there is no doubting that he is a controversial figure – arguably the electorate voted Banks out more than Brown in. That makes it a whole lot harder for the Nats to advise their supporters to vote for him – they might wish ACT had chosen a moderate candidate with more general appeal.

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  20. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    James

    I’d like to see where Banksie said the quote about the barbed wire.

    He is a conservative and christian and thats his thing but I cant see him or remember him saying anything like what you’ve stated.

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  21. nasska (10,834 comments) says:

    Paul

    He said it http://www.bsa.govt.nz/decisions/show/359

    He just likes to open his mouth & let the North Wester blow his tongue around….. we’ve got sufficient MPs who act similarly already.

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  22. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Nasska

    Read the link thanks, not suggesting it but stupid to agree with caller

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  23. Bed Rater (239 comments) says:

    I’m an ACT voter, and I’m conflicted. I like that JB will probably be good in a realpolitik sense, that he will gain votes because he’s well respected in some circles. I hate the fact that the bigoted cunt is standing for (what was at some stage) a classical liberal party.

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  24. aquataur (53 comments) says:

    That’s it

    After being a member of ACT since it started, I’m leaving

    It is now nothing more than a home for has-been politicians – Brash, Banks and Douglas

    The only one I still support is Boscawen

    Yesterday’s men with yesterday’s solutions

    May they crash and burn

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  25. wat dabney (3,714 comments) says:

    Bed Bater,

    I hate the fact that the bigoted cunt is standing for (what was at some stage) a classical liberal party.”

    Under classical liberalism people are free (as they should) be to privately indulge their bigotry and the state kept too small and powerless to impose collective prejudice on any minority. This is in contrast to the left which seeks to create an all-powerful state to politicise everyone’s lives; thereby creating the vehicles which implemented everything from racial preference to ethnic cleansing and worse.

    So his ugly personal bigotry isn’t a concern at all if he adheres to ACT’s principles. The problem is that he won’t. The egotistical twat wouldn’t know a principle if it bit him in the arse.

    aquataur,

    It is now nothing more than a home for has-been politicians – Brash, Banks and Douglas

    They are no longer spring chickens it’s true, but that is no reason not to respect Brash and Douglas for their views and their principles. I’m glad they are still willing to contribute. If only there were also more younger faces with the same passion advocating personal liberty.

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  26. rakuraku (162 comments) says:

    National need to show some balls in this electorate and stand a good candidate rather than walking through the backdoor with a bunch of failed Hazbeans swinging off it’s shirttails, they will get more respect from the NZ public.

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  27. aquataur (53 comments) says:

    Wat

    Their views and principles are discredited
    they are not advocates of personal liberty – more advocates of personal slavery
    They have had their time and all have been shown up as failures

    time to get of the pot and let fresh faces and ideas emerge

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  28. James (1,338 comments) says:

    What Wat said…..ACT’s young blood hasn’t risen…or been allowed to rise to the MP level….. contrast that with the Greens that seem to promote them from school (Gareth Hughes).

    I hope that a Peter MaCafferey or David Seymore will come in and emerge as leader in the not too distant future.

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  29. dog_eat_dog (757 comments) says:

    Don really needs to stand in Tamaki. I was under the impression David Seymour left for Canada a while ago?

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  30. Mark (1,406 comments) says:

    Is it relevant that Banks was selected for ACT. Up to a stellar 1.7% in the polls and with a leader (who may not even get into parliament if there isn’t a significant improvement in the polls) who ranks behind Hone Harawera in the preferred PM stakes. Rather than Brash being the great redeemer of the ACT party is he possibly just moving it from one toxic brand to another toxic brand.

    Key has already dealt him a lesson on strategy by simply ignoring the Dear John letter.

    This is hugely dissapointing as National needs an ally in parliament with some strength and some backbone but if the polls are correct the Brash takeover so far has been an abject failure.

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  31. BlairM (2,303 comments) says:

    dog_eat_dog – like MacArthur, David is returning. Last time I talked to him it was his intention to stand for ACT this election, but a lot has changed since then.

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  32. BlairM (2,303 comments) says:

    Hmmmm I am wondering if I should contest National’s Epsom nomination now. I believe the people of Epsom should have a classical liberal on the ballot to vote for! ;-) Does anyone want to stump up for a plane ticket from Texas for me? :-D

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  33. David Seymour (8 comments) says:

    I’m on my way back, sitting in JFK right now, and will be doing whatever I can to help ACT for the rest of the year, looking forward to it.

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  34. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    David

    Bring Jack Kevorkian back with you and clear some of the aged dead wood from the top of the ACT tree

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  35. Dave Mann (1,184 comments) says:

    I’m a huge fan of Don Brash and I think John Boscowan is probably also very capable…. but even as a relatively long time ACT voter, I am also conflicted. At this stage I just can’t see ACT emerging from the wilderness under this scenario at all. Don should have started a new party and poached Boscowan and whatever energetic and untainted talent they night have had hidden away. To me this looks like a disaster and a tragically wasted opportunity for classical liberalism, frankly.

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  36. wat dabney (3,714 comments) says:

    aquataur,

    Their views and principles are discredited

    How so?

    they are not advocates of personal liberty – more advocates of personal slavery

    I missed that bit, and I’m shocked. Where did they advocate that?

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  37. Clint Heine (1,568 comments) says:

    It’s as I said it was – a National Party takeover of the ACT Party. Watch as other National stalwarts quietly join up, purging the party of its traditional Labour roots and social liberals – to be a National Party offshoot. That is if this short term strategy works for Brash and ACT post November. Too many dead rats for me to swallow though!

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