Four hours of heckling

May 9th, 2011 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Audrey Young at NZ Herald reports:

Maori Party co-leader Tariana Turia was sickened by what she called “psychological abuse” meted out to her and others by MP Hone Harawira’s mother and sister at a hui yesterday.

Mrs Turia said the entire meeting, at Waitangi’s Te Tii Marae, was disrupted from 10am to 2pm.

“It was just terrible. It was the whole hui. It wasn’t just two minutes. It was shouting, abusing, swearing, singing loud over the top of people.”

She said Mr Harawira’s mother, Titewhai, “kept shouting at me that I was a liar … bloody liar … snakes”.

“Nobody could shut them up. They just shouted and denigrated people the whole way through the hui.”

Mrs Harawira and daughter Hinewhare also tried to intimidate people by saying they had written down ethe names of those present.

These tactics might backfire on the . This could well send some voters who were considering voting for Harawira (if there is a by-election) to instead vote for Labour’s Kelvin Davis.

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90 Responses to “Four hours of heckling”

  1. Murray (8,803 comments) says:

    … and the mask slips right off.

    Pay no attention to the rabid racist agenda behind the curtain!

    Fucking mummies boy trying to get approval.

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  2. Rich Prick (1,750 comments) says:

    I would expect nothing less from a family of thugs. If that is Maori politics, I’ll say thanks, but no thanks.

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  3. 2boyz (273 comments) says:

    Such a classy duo, wonder if they were operating on behalf of the Mana Party (a tolerant party letting others have their say).

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  4. Bobbie black (507 comments) says:

    The stupid thing is Hone and family are actually destroying their local support by this childish crap.

    The Maori party and Don couldn’t have formulated a better plan even if they had worked together.

    It seems Hone is not as bright and sneaky as say, Winston.

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  5. Neil (577 comments) says:

    What a pack of idiots. No wonder Maori politics has a bad name among New Zealanders.
    The Harawira’s have no credibility among main stream New Zealanders. They simply annoy and anger with their pathetic bully boy tactics.
    Sharples,Turia,Katene and Flavell come over as far more reasonable and are willing to work in the tent.
    What do Maoris really think of Harawira’s mob and the Maori party ?
    To me one is a jagged moonbeam and the other is a dose of realism.

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  6. Monty (899 comments) says:

    When is John Hatfield going to resign? – he was going to do so a week back, yet he is still a member of Parliament. What is his last day that he can resign and still have a by-election?

    [DPF: 26 May is six months before the stated election date]

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  7. dime (10,221 comments) says:

    BAHAHAHAHA not very nice is it

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  8. 3-coil (1,199 comments) says:

    Maybe Hulun (for once) had it right: “haters and wreckers”

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  9. Chris R (71 comments) says:

    Regardless of personal conduct, the rationale for any party representing a single race is RACISM!

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  10. Bobbie black (507 comments) says:

    Wasters and hecklers?

    Yes wasn’t she the one that made Hulun cry?

    Heckling? Ya call that heckling!? You white folk wouldn’t know what heckling is!

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  11. Richard Hurst (885 comments) says:

    “These tactics might backfire on the Mana Party.”

    Excuse but that was tactics?? I thought it was describing a pack of drunks that had stumbled into the meeting thinking they had found the bar….

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  12. Michaels (1,233 comments) says:

    I expect no less from Titewhai.
    Nothing but a nasty raciest piece of shit.
    Just like her son.
    She’ll be proud.

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  13. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    Tangata ako ana i te whare, te turanga ki te marae, tau ana.

    He ihu kuri, he tangata haere.

    I guess this is an instance where “Mana” doesn’t translate that well into the old Anglaise.

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  14. homepaddock (408 comments) says:

    ” (if there is a by-election)” – Matt McCarten said on Morning Report that Harawira will resign this week.

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  15. Pete George (23,832 comments) says:

    When is John Hatfield going to resign?

    This week apparently. After announcing he was going to resign he discovered that it would not only put himself out of a job, temporarily at least, but also his staff in Parliament, so he has taken some time to tell them they are expendable.

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  16. projectman (232 comments) says:

    Mana party? There is no mana in behaving like that.

    If anyone had doubts about where they are coming from, they are well and truly exposed.

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  17. gravedodger (1,575 comments) says:

    How will the publicity arm of NZ Labour report this tonight. Will Phil, Kris and Fran have sorted out a position for the inevitable headsup phone call.

    Te Tai Tokerau can’t be that stupid, can they. Then again maybe they can, it has gone on ad nauseum on the 6th of February every year on year.
    What part of the success stories of Maori, that should be part Maori, who escape to Australia and other parts where without the suffocating blanket that was left over in 1840 is left behind and away they go in so many fields to success. Of course they nearly all have to have a clean record to make the move but surely not all who remain are trapped by that, are they.

    If that totally undesirable, anti social racist matriarch and her coterie of thuggish family members are the way forward then maybe the Far North DC should immediately build a road to a convenient seaside cliff for them to Hikoi on like the lemmings they so clearly identify with.

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  18. GPT1 (2,022 comments) says:

    Titewhai is a horrible woman who damages race relations in this country every time she speaks. Arrogant, caustic and just plain nasty.

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  19. s.russell (1,650 comments) says:

    Turia claimed the feedback they had received suggested that the great silent majority were not backinHarawira, and the MP could win the seat. I hope this is true. It ought to be if Maori in Te Tai Tokerau have any sense.

    But will Labour also run a candidate against Harawira? A tricky decision for them. Toxic as he is, at least Harawira would never back National, so they might prefer him to win. But then there is the danger of creating a monster that will eat the guts out of their vote and cause them pain for decades to come. Though it would kill any chance of Kelvin Davis winning in November, long-term it might be smarter to kill the snake now by not running and quietly backing the MP. That would also earn them big kudos with the party they will eventually NEED to become Govt.

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  20. RRM (10,104 comments) says:

    Maori activists fighting and bickering among one another makes RRM a happy panda :-)

    Hopefully the first family of racial hatred will become less relevant with time, once mummy gets old and past it.

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  21. jaba (2,146 comments) says:

    this is brilliant .. Mum and son now being ostracised by their own .. other than close rellies and the dumb

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  22. big bruv (14,224 comments) says:

    When I hear about scum like the Harawira females I despair for race relations in this country, no doubt the equally low life Greens will be bending over backward to justify the latest thug like behaviour.

    The problem is that in NZ the squeaky wheel is always the one that gets oiled first, our gutless and PC politicians will do anything or say anything to pacify Neanderthals like the Harawira’s.

    Given the latest outburst then I can only urge all of you who have had enough of this racist crap to give your vote to the ACT party, it is time that the rest of us told these sub human people where to get off.

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  23. KevinH (1,257 comments) says:

    Ko tikanga manuhiri o te Ti Ti marae?
    Tariana Turia would probably ask the above question, she is bemused that Nga Puhi feel the need to insult their guests before whai korero, that type of behaviour reflects on all Nga Puhi who the Harawira’s don’t represent.
    Anyone can play that game, and now that the Harawira’s have started it, they to will have to endure it.

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  24. Manolo (14,179 comments) says:

    The problem is … our gutless and PC politicians will do anything or say anything to pacify Neanderthals like the Harawira’s.

    Well said, bruv.

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  25. Inventory2 (9,384 comments) says:

    Some commenters here will not remember Titewhai Harawira’s past, but this Stuff article written by Rosemary McLeod suggests that violence runs in the whanau:

    Behind Harawira and egging him on is his mother Titewhai, a loyal activist whose own judgment failed her badly in the past. She got nine months in jail in 1989 for assaulting a mental patient in the ill-fated Whare Paia Maori mental health unit she was in charge of, in a poorly thought- out arrangement with Auckland’s Carrington Hospital. Four staff members were also sentenced for violence against the patient, two of them sharing her surname.

    When he was 22, back in 1979, Hone Harawira was involved in a violent confrontation at Auckland University. He was then a member of a group, He Taua, who confronted drunk engineering students who performed a parody of the haka Ka Mate with obscenities painted on their bodies. His group confronted them with baseball bats and hoses.

    I expect many people probably thought then that such provocative behaviour – I mean the engineering students’ – was inoffensive. Nothing justifies the thuggish response, but bear in mind that we’d only had a Race Relations Conciliator for two years back then. More than 30 years later we’ve seen the benefits of that role, which brought with it condemnation of hate-speak, the divisive language that’s a form of latent violence against minorities, and dubious “entertainment” like that “haka”.

    Like some scheming aristocratic Roman mother with a son she wants to make emperor, Titewhai Harawira attacks anyone who criticises or condemns Hone, calling Maori Party co-leader Pita Sharples, who has tried diplomacy with him, a “gutless dog”.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/columnists/rosemary-mcleod/4667388/The-pity-of-Harawira

    I remember both incidents quite clearly, but had not realised until now that Hone was one of the assailants of the haka party. It doesn’t surprise though. Is it any wonder that family violence is such a problem for Maori when this is the kind of behaviour displayed by so-called leaders?

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  26. emmess (1,398 comments) says:

    So Osama Bin Laden deserve nothing but nice words but Tariana Turia deserves to be shouted at for 4 hours straight?

    Riiiiiiiiiiiight

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  27. Inventory2 (9,384 comments) says:

    @ emmess – not quite; they only laud the dead :-)

    You make a good point though; the hypocrisy is quite simply breathtaking.

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  28. Murray (8,803 comments) says:

    Drunken engineering students are not known for their decision making capabilities.

    Beatingthe shit out of them however is not an approved method of displayings ones disapproval.

    Perhaps if Turia had died Mama Hatfield would have said something nice about her. Evidently the only good opponent of that hater clan is a dead one.

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  29. Murray (8,803 comments) says:

    Actually on reflection sober engineering students are not that sharp either.

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  30. Rex Widerstrom (5,013 comments) says:

    Subsequent to the meeting, doctors have confirmed that, in a medical rarity, Titewhai Harawira has been diagnosed as both a little hoarse and a complete ass.

    Thankyew, thankyew, thankyeeew..

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  31. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    “now that the Harawira’s have started it, they to will have to endure it”

    Will they? Is it really likely that other Maori will want to embarrass themselves by descending to that level?

    This is all really a bit of a poke in the eye for the mana of Nga Puhi. The rabid Titewhai bin Ahatfield would no doubt claim the contrary – that in fact there has been an affront by the MP to Nga Puhi, but I imagine the old codgers in the back blocks will find this all a bit embarrassing; particularly as the story gets wound up.

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  32. Viking2 (11,684 comments) says:

    Ah well the Red Squad can tell you a story about Titewhai driving a rental car with explosives in the boot down the hill at Waitangi ready to do mischief.
    True story that never made the Press cause the police muffed it and couldn’t pin it on her after she ran away from the car which they removed off the grounds. Retrieved by a relative, returned the car to the rental co. Police hadn’t searched it and were told that it had explosives in after its return. Testing revealed that to be true.
    Unwritten part of our tribal history guys.

    and don’t forget that this lot were responsible for beating up patients at Carrington Hospital in Auckland.

    Nasty, nasty people who have used time and history to cover their less than nice tracks.

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  33. Viking2 (11,684 comments) says:

    HMM, that’s also why Ngapuhi in Rotorua are called “bush pigs” by the local Te Arawa.

    Really is so. Despised by them.

    When I first encountered this about 15 years ago I was staggered at the racisim, but now I see why.

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  34. gopolks (52 comments) says:

    When will these idiots figure out, that the loduest and rudest person anit always right.

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  35. Murray (8,803 comments) says:

    When the media stop making out that its true gopolks.

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  36. rouppe (983 comments) says:

    This is why other parties must stand candidates in a Te Tai Tokerau by election. The silent voters who are either too smart or too scared to confront the Harawira’s directly should have the opportunity to choose someone else.

    I don’t care whether it is Maori Party, Labour, Green, National or whatever. Just someone else…

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  37. gopolks (52 comments) says:

    The media will never do that, bigbruv is right.

    How can anyone respect, Locke and Bradford or Minto they may come under the guise of being the friendly stand up for your rights type politicians/activists, but they are the biggest hypocrites on the face of the planet for not speaking up against the bully type tactics of Hone and his family, I guess in Locke’s, Bradford’s and Minto’s world its okay to be a bully if you have the same ideology that they do.

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  38. Elaycee (4,425 comments) says:

    Isn’t Titiwhai all class?

    Maori hold a hui to discuss topical matters. Then the racist Queen of Hate appears and tries to take over.

    Not a nice picture – broomstick parked in the corner, arms akimbo, brain disengaged, vocal chords stuck in full throttle, red hair a-flaming and with a face of an elderly gargoyle sucking the pips from a lemon.

    Couldn’t you think of something better to do with Mum on Mothers Day, Hone?

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  39. Mark (1,502 comments) says:

    A pathetic exhibition from Titiwhai and Hine Harawera. Speaks volumes for the the lack of Mana that they have

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  40. krazykiwi (8,040 comments) says:

    I don’t like where this is going. We need Hone with enough votes to ensure the Greens are little more than primordial ooze after the election. On current tracking, he’ll probably take a handful of votes away from them, while dominating the media’s attention.

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  41. Longknives (4,966 comments) says:

    I never knew Hone was involved in the infamous Auckland University ‘Haka Party’ incident…..surely he wasn’t a fellow student?? The guy seems to have a remarkably low IQ and the social skills of a street thug….

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  42. wat dabney (3,849 comments) says:

    It was always the greatest of conceits to call themselves The Maori Party.

    Now they’ll have to rename themselves A Maori Party, which is all they ever were.

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  43. Pete George (23,832 comments) says:

    They will still be The Maori Party.

    Hone’s lot will be The Maori And Non-Maori Activist Party.

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  44. Pete George (23,832 comments) says:

    Just as the Labour Party will remain so named despite not labouring very much (but campaign labouriously).
    The Green Party is not (quite) from Mars.
    The New Zealand First Party wasn’t first, didn’t come first and doesn’t put the country first.

    The National Party could claim to be nationwide.
    The Act Party acted with a gun at it’s head.

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  45. nasska (12,107 comments) says:

    The MSM have always referred to the indigenous peoples affairs with the all encompassing word “Maori” as if it denoted a group of like minded people. Thus we have for example ‘Maori customary fishing rights’, the “Maori language’ or ‘Maori traditions’.

    Prior to European settlement Maori lived a tribal existence. They developed largely independent of neighbouring tribes with whom they may have in some instances bartered but they generally regarded the tribe over the hill as a food source. Outcomes of intertribal skirmishes were handed down to each generation. Even the language developed dialects with words & phrases not meaning the same in different parts of NZ.

    The differences between Maori tribal groups is nearly as great as their similarities. Thus in my opinion Pan Maori politics are a fiction…about the only thing they agree on is that whitey is going to keep paying for any indiscretions be they 150 years & about seven generations behind us. Take away this unifying factor & peace between tribes becomes a myth.

    When politics becomes Maori vs Maori the tribal factions at a hui would be incapable of agreeing on how to open the keg at the after match function.

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  46. Thomas the Unbeliever (141 comments) says:

    The actions of the Harawira clan make Tariana and the Maori Party look reasonable by comparison. An unexpected side-effect.

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  47. wat dabney (3,849 comments) says:

    nasska,

    That’s The Maori Party’s great conceit: in their racist minds they believe they represent everyone brown.

    It’d be like Helen Clark professing to represent the views of all white people.

    Yet they get treated with kid gloves by the media, whilst their exact equivalents in Europe (BNP, National Front, Vlaam Blok etc) are properly reviled.

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  48. grumpy (270 comments) says:

    Don’t forget Titewhai Harawira telling patients at Carrington to “kill a white and die a hero”. Conveniently forgotten by the media.

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  49. nasska (12,107 comments) says:

    wat dabney

    In the eyes of the left (& therefore the MSM & the UN) only a white man can be a racist.

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  50. BlairM (2,340 comments) says:

    grumpy – that was Ripeka Evans. You are mixing up your retarded Libyan exiles.

    The real problem here is with the Nga Puhi rangatira who continue to tolerate this ridiculous behaviour at Te Tii year after year from the same people. It suggests they are not serious about welcoming manuhiri on to their marae.

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  51. Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left (743 comments) says:

    BlairM
    wasnt it Hana Te Hemara?

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  52. Dazzaman (1,082 comments) says:

    If she’d have done that on my marae I’d have chucked her out &, knowing Ngapuhi thrive on conflict her daughter would’ve had a go, I’d have punched her to sleep. That’s what the tangata whenua should have done,….Tariana & co, as the manuhiri should have walked out.

    What goes on there every year at Waitangi & today wouldn’t happen at any other wharenui in the country, not without the tangata whenua knocking heads…but it’s par for the course out the back of the kitchen! :wink:

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  53. Dazzaman (1,082 comments) says:

    Oh yeah V2, even further down the island Ngapuhi are infamous for fighting for the sake of it…they thrive on conflict.

    Mind you there are other tribal rivalries & peculiarities right throughout the country….& people have blimmin’ looong memories. When I hear of these things I always tell my Pakeha wife, “bloody Maoris are violent by nature”. It’s true.

    Generalizations to some extent but…there you go.

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  54. Put it away (2,872 comments) says:

    Makes me wonder what the reaction to this kind of abuse of the marae’s hospitality would have been in the ‘old days’. I guess the meat that night would’ve been a big tough and stringy.

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  55. side show bob (3,410 comments) says:

    Actually you have to feel for old Hone, if he fucks this circus up mummy will not be happy, the jug cord will find brown arse.

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  56. Rex Widerstrom (5,013 comments) says:

    Ahhh yes, the “kill a white” comment. You’re all wrong :-P [edit: except for SS&STL, who I see has as good a memory as do I]

    The person who said it was Hana Jackson, previously Hana Te Hemara.

    Prior to that it would have (quite rightly IMO) have been illegal for any one of us to have suggested that someone murder someone else purely on the basis of the intended victim’s ethnicity. No one in their right mind felt it was acceptable anywhere, at any time, and in any context, to exhort others to “kill a Maori”, “kill a Muslim” or “kill a ginga” for that matter.

    Then came the famous “kill a white” comment. Clear cut case for prosecution, right? Goodness no. In a nice bit of retrospective jiggery pokery that would have made Helen Clark proud, the government of the day provided a loophole (a marae wasn’t a “public place”, evidently) and then repealed the relevant section of the Race Relations Act (9A, in 1989) so as to make it perfectly okay.

    The HRC describes it thus:

    The present section 61 differs in a number of significant respects from its predecessor. While extending its scope to private as well as public places, it narrows the offence by removing the reference to exciting ill-will or bringing groups of persons into ridicule.

    So the new section conflates Billy T’s humour (which arguably ridicules Maori) with exhortations to randomly murder Pakeha. Thus setting a new low benchmark for public debate in NZ, specifically to allow radical activists to make such comments with impunity.

    The best defence against that sort of hatred is mockery. The one reaction that’ll affect someone suffused with enough hatred to utter such a statement is mockery. As Billy T asked at the time, “What about a half-caste like me? What do I do? Stab myself?” :-)

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  57. Rodders (1,756 comments) says:

    As far as the Harawira’s at Carrington go, never forget that there was a brutal and cowardly assualt on a mental patient at the Whare Paia that put Titewhai and her revolting daugher in prison.

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  58. Tauhei Notts (1,688 comments) says:

    Inventory at 11.22 a.m.
    Who was that smarmy Yiddish bitch that defended those thugs armed with baseball bats?
    And was extremely proud to do so.

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  59. Rodders (1,756 comments) says:

    No need to descend to that abuse !

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  60. Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left (743 comments) says:

    Rex
    I was 7 at the time :-) . Dad told me about it in the 90’s and I looked it up a few years ago.

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  61. big bruv (14,224 comments) says:

    Given the killing of Bin Laden and the outburst of support from John Hatfield I would have thought that the MSM would have dug up the comment made by that evil piece of shit Annette Sykes. It was Sykes who said that she “jumped for joy” when she saw the planes hit the twin towers.

    Sadly it seems that the MSM are more interested in chasing wild stories about Dr Brash and his non existent love child.

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  62. Pete George (23,832 comments) says:

    bruv, it was put to Harawira on The Nation last week by Garner.

    Duncan: Are you comfortable with someone like Annette Sykes being so involved, I mean remember what she said around the time of 9/11 where she laughed and effectively applauded and clapped when those planes went into the towers on 9/11? I mean are you comfortable being a party in parliament having someone like that there?

    Hone: I’m comfortable having alongside me one of the strongest Maori women I have ever met, one of the strongest women I have ever met, a person who’s courageous in all that she’s done, who has defended those that all other lawyers have walked away from, and who is fearless in her dealings with government, with Iwi leaders, and with all levels of society. I have great respect for Annette Sykes.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1104/S00361/hone-harawira-on-the-nation.htm

    Avoided and left at that though.

    If Harawira can work with his mother (or for her) then he probably doesn’t worry about Minor quirks like that.

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  63. william blake (109 comments) says:

    Poor Tariana she didn’t like the protesters singing at her, sorry but you lot laughed hard when Helen Clark got Titiwhied so why is it different when she does it to Tariana? Is it because she affirms the patriarchy and the status quo with her politics / religion ?

    I don’t think Tariana Turia is a liar but I do think she has a problem with other strong women. Cue sound of violins.

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  64. big bruv (14,224 comments) says:

    Cheers Pete;

    One wonders at the state of journalism in this nation, I would wager that Garner did not even listen to the reply, he was already getting his next question ready for Hatfield.

    Imagine a Perigo (in his prime) an Ian Fraser or a Sean Plunket getting a reply like that from Hatfield, those three would not have let it slide as Garner did.

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  65. Pete George (23,832 comments) says:

    Haha bruv, what would you know? Garner followed that with:

    Duncan: I want to move to this truce that you have with the Maori Party.

    Jodi Ihaka on Marae Investigates was better than anyone else (she handled a debate with Brash and Harawira) that I’ve seen lately.

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  66. Rex Widerstrom (5,013 comments) says:

    Pete George notes Hone as describing Sykes thusly:

    one of the strongest Maori women I have ever met, one of the strongest women I have ever met, a person who’s courageous in all that she’s done

    In 1999, when Hana “Kill a White” Jackson died, she was described (link above) as:

    Maoridom is mourning the death of one its strongest and most controversial women… Maori Affairs Minister Tau Henare last night paid tribute… [saying] “Hana symbolised the strength of Maori women in this country.”

    Seems “strong Maori woman” is newspeak for “violent racist”, and has been for some time.

    I wonder if the thousands of genuinely strong Maori women, making positive change in their whanaus and their communities, are aware of this nomenclature? Or are they too busy working and not just flapping their gums hoping to get noticed by the pasty white boys and girls in the MSM?

    Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left says:

    Rex
    I was 7 at the time

    So you’re saying I am as ancient as my children seem to think I am? Bastard :-P

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  67. Pete George (23,832 comments) says:

    This is worth a look if you haven’t seen it, better than the Closeup debate, Brash v Harawira.

    http://tvnz.co.nz/marae-investigates/s2011-e25-video-4159084

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  68. holysheet (474 comments) says:

    Received this as an email so pass it on

    Please sign and send on:-

    As a rule, I don’t pass along these “add your name” lists that appear in e-mails, BUT this one is important.

    It has been circulating for months and has been sent to over 22 million people.

    We don’t want to lose any names on the list so just hit forward and send it on.

    Please keep it going!

    To show your support for the MP, Hone Harawera, and the job
    he is doing, please go to the end of the list and add your name…

    1. Titiwhai Harawera
    2.

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  69. lilman (974 comments) says:

    My lovely wife of 20 plus years and 4 children along with her wider whanau despise the Harawiras,with such passion that makes me hopefull for the future of our nation.
    At a dinner on sunday night nheard her family talk of their disgust of all they stand for,they havent forgotten about their rush for the musket of the early settlers to bully and punish other tribe in the preceeding centry.
    Wifes mum on phone tonight was sickened about the Hui display,said her family are angry about being held to account everyday by people who embarass and disrespect her family attitude to work and community.
    I say again ,I as a european new zealander love my wifes whanau,who inturn are in my humble opinion are fantastic new zealanders.

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  70. expat (4,050 comments) says:

    I was in the same halls of residence as Hine and as I recall she didn’t much like mixing with white folk, or brown folk unless they were strident separatists. Sour faced arrogant and aloof. No change there then.

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  71. big bruv (14,224 comments) says:

    expat

    Maybe you did not read Hine correctly, did you ever stop and consider that the reason she is permanently angry is because she looks like she has been 15 rounds with the ugly stick?

    Being born that ugly has got to leave you totally pissed off at life.

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  72. magic bullet (776 comments) says:

    DPF – who gives a fuck what Hone’s mum does? Who gives a fuck what John key’s mum does. This is a trash piece of tabloid dog-whistling, and nothing more.

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  73. Pete George (23,832 comments) says:

    I’m sure Key’s mum would get a bit of attention if she went to political meetings and swore at and abused members of parliament, and if there was a general perception that Key operated in his mother’s shadow.

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  74. aquataur (59 comments) says:

    For what its worth

    My late Dad taught John in West Auckland before he went to High School
    Remember him telling me what a bitch his mother was and what a shit John was – that they would be bad news in the future
    I sometimes feel sorry for John – with a mother like that, he didn’t stand a chance
    Until I remember that he had a choice and didn’t need to be such an arsehole himself

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  75. Put it away (2,872 comments) says:

    Tragic Bullshit – “DPF – who gives a fuck what Hone’s mum does? Who gives a fuck what John key’s mum does. This is a trash piece of tabloid dog-whistling, and nothing more.”

    Don’t pretend to be stupider than you are to troll. As you well know, Titewhai has a long career as an egotistical loon “radical” going back long before anyone heard of her son. She has long been making a spectacle of herself in her own right. John Key’s mum does not.

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  76. Crusader (328 comments) says:

    what does MANA stand for anyway: “Mad Al-queda Network of Aotearoa”?

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  77. Rodders (1,756 comments) says:

    @mb- John Key’s mother has been dead for more than a decade. And you have the cheek to accuse others of posting “trash” !

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  78. Nookin (3,571 comments) says:

    MB
    In theory we live in a democracy. Titawai’s idea of democracy is when people sit down to talk they have to tolerate 4 hours of abuse during which no-one can really participate in rational conversation. It’s her way or no way. That philosophy is the driving force behind Hone and his party. Why do you say that the public at large should not be aware of that?

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  79. adze (2,130 comments) says:

    Can’t wait till we no longer have to see the PM hold hands with old vinegar-Titewhai every Waitangi Day… it turns my stomach.

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  80. kiwi in america (2,314 comments) says:

    THis is the face of the hard left – racial tolerance is the stick they try to beat mainstream NZers with and yet, in the case of the Hawawiris, they ooze hatred for the white man. Turia and Sharples are pragmatists who seek acceptable and implimentable solutions to Maori problems. Hone, Minto, Bradford, Sykes – any violent means justfies the ends – in their case a Marxist utopia. They brook no dissent from the party line. Collectively they are a treasure trove of extremist off the wall positions.

    If the MP AND Labour stand in Te Tai Tokorau it could be very interesting. Hopefully both candidates will mention the Harawiri’s bullying and violent past early and often during the by-election.

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  81. Manolo (14,179 comments) says:

    Can’t wait till we no longer have to see the PM hold hands with old vinegar-Titewhai every Waitangi Day.

    You’re dreaming. Key will even embrace the bitch.

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  82. magic bullet (776 comments) says:

    mmmmm – KIA brain jelly…

    THis is the arse of the hard right – racial tolerance is combated through, thinly veiled dog whistling. Because, in the case of KIA, he realises that oozing hatred for Maori is socially unacceptabel, due to the historical; power relationship between Pakeha and Maori. Turia and Sharples represent the propertied Maori, and seek acceptable and implimentable ways of lining the pockets of the iwi elite. Maori problems. Hone, Minto, Bradford, Sykes – any violent means arre avoided – in their case, they’re avowed pacifists.. The party doesn’t even officially exist and the right wing smear machine is in full gear. Such people are a treasure trove of extremist off the wall positions.

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  83. Manolo (14,179 comments) says:

    Utter rubbish from a racist “leader”. The bros infighting is fun to watch:

    Mana Party bastion for left, says Sharples

    The Maori Party co-leaders launched a renewed assault on Hone Harawira yesterday, calling his new party – the Mana Party – a bastion for the left rather than an advocate for Maori. Tariana Turia and Pita Sharples took themselves to the forefront of the stoush questioning Mana Party policies which include strengthening unions and removing GST in favour of a financial transaction tax.

    “We are a Maori party, they are not a Maori party,” Dr Sharples said. “They seem to represent the unions and various other groups … we’re not left, we’re not right. we’re Maori.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10724508

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  84. Nookin (3,571 comments) says:

    Actually, Manolo, I think Sharples summed it up quite well.

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  85. Inventory2 (9,384 comments) says:

    Magic Bullet said

    Hone, Minto, Bradford, Sykes – any violent means arre avoided – in their case, they’re avowed pacifists..

    FFS MB; as if your comment about Key’s late mother wasn’t bad enough, this one takes the biscuit. Minto, leader of 1981 anto-tour protests a pacifist? You have GOT to be kidding. Let’s not even start on Sykes and Bradford; your credibility has already taken a spanking.

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  86. kiwi in america (2,314 comments) says:

    Magic
    Bradford, Sykes and Minto as pacifists – Eurasia is no longer at war with Eastasia! Hone Harawiri and his mother have a long history of violence – verbal and physical. Minto and Bradford have been involved with violent protests all their adult lives and Sykes of course attended Lybian terror training camps in the 80’s to train her for possible armed Maori separatist uprisings.

    You know zero about my relationships with Maori. My business partner is Maori – one fluent in Te Reo but also a master of kapahaka, whakapapa and ancient Maori history and culture. We fund to the tune of almost $100k programmes across NZ for at risk Maori and Polynesian youth. I grew up with and enjoy today many many Maori friends probably almost as many as Pakeha. I flatted with Maoris for 8 years. I’m about as comfortable on a marae and at a tangi as any Pakeha you’ll meet. This is not the first time you’ve been 100% wrong with your stereotyping of me.

    I have never been a Brash supporter precisely because of his racial dog whistling.

    Like many on the left, you equate criticism of the policies of the Maori hard left as racism. Marxism is Marxism regardless of the colour of the person proposing it. Marxism has never worked so to criticize its proponents is far from racist. And hatred of the white man, stock in trade of the Harawiris, is no different from white racism towards Maori. It is destructive and non productive and is electorally unappealing even to Maori who mostly are not racist.

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  87. RRM (10,104 comments) says:

    I think Pita Sharples is on Manolo’s list of People Who Are Always Wrong. Even when he is spot on.

    Although the more I think about it, Mana Party positioning might not be as impossible as I thought.
    Harawira – will have support from Northland Maoris.
    Bradford – will have support from Auckland beneficiaries.

    They could very well have the North Auckland, unemployed, Maori, “what’s this pakeha gummint ever done for me?” vote stitched up. Wow, dare to dream eh?

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  88. Nookin (3,571 comments) says:

    KIA
    Thank you for that. It is always gratifying to see bigotry unveiled — and mb is a bigot whose shaky grip on reality was further loosened by his comments about minto & co. They may not have thumped people (hone aside) but it was their way or the highway. Was it fish hooks, broken glass or both at Waikato Stadium? And that is non-violent?

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  89. Manolo (14,179 comments) says:

    I think Pita Sharples is on Manolo’s list of People Who Are Always Wrong.

    Yes. :D

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  90. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    Yes it was fish hooks and glass.

    Manolo

    Yes, try resting your finger on the trigger guard rather than the trigger. I still have reservations about whether your ‘kick-em-in-the-balls and tell them to HTFU’ approach is going to do any more than produce more generations of the bin Ahatfields.

    How’s that bunker in your basement coming along? :)

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