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May 26, 2011 10:00am by David Farrar

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Labour have done an online game, to try and push their message against asset sales. Not sure how effective it will be, but I did find it amusing.

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Murray

well lets see, so far everything they’ve tried has turned to custard and blown up in their faces and their answer has been to do more of the same. What you THINK is going to happen?

And since labour is going to be a one trick pney and make asset sales the trick shouldn’t they replace Goff first?
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May 26, 2011 10:07am
labrator

Well the Aussies can have the Huntly power station, we’re not allowed to burn coal in NZ any more let a lone dig it up.

Not sure how well Aussie bashing is going to do Labour’s votes. Have they ever tried being productive before or perhaps using arguments/policies that involve numbers or are remotely convincing?
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May 26, 2011 10:10am
East Wellington Superhero

If National did this, Labour would have called it ‘immature’ and ‘out of touch with the important issues’. But as Labour has done it, I suspect they’ll frame it as ‘cutting-edge’ and ‘speaking to peoples’ concerns’.
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May 26, 2011 10:10am
Ryan Sproull

I think it’s a much better idea than their previous ones. It’s entertaining enough that people could conceivably share it on Facebook. And it doesn’t open itself up to the public putting their own wacky content in there.

The only thing I wonder about is the copyright issues around Luke/Leia/Vader.

[DPF: Oh yeah it is definitely a massive breach of copyright]
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May 26, 2011 10:11am
Ender

Wow that’s lame.
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May 26, 2011 10:13am
Lipo

The thing that makes me laugh about people who disregard selling state assest is that thinking that we lost something.
They seem to loose to sight that we acutally have sold something for money, we have not given it away.
NZ government uses that money to pay for Health, Welfare etc in New Zealand, things that people who rally against selling assest want more money to be spent on. Money that I guess they think grows on trees
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May 26, 2011 10:13am
labrator

The Aussies can put together funnier videos about the Labour parties defence policy too.
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May 26, 2011 10:14am
Dibbo

Actually the money comes from rich pricks and farmers who have plenty anyway…so it is regarded as free money
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May 26, 2011 10:16am
Ryan Sproull

If National did this,

They wouldn’t, though. That’s a point.

Firstly, National wouldn’t.

Secondly, that even if they did, they couldn’t.
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May 26, 2011 10:16am
lofty

Just proves that the bully boy actually believes his own self built bullshit persona.
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May 26, 2011 10:21am
Rick Rowling

The never answered question:

Given the assertion that all government asset sales are bad (aka “Stop Asset Sales”), does this mean that

(a) The Government currently owns exactly the right mix of assets

(b) The Government only owns assets that it should own, but should also buy more

(c) All assets should be Government owned, so it naturally follows that all asset sales are bad

(d) Something else (explain)
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May 26, 2011 10:23am
double d

i know, i know, why do i do it. Ok i watched the lame Jacinda on TV1 this morning and straight away she started on about selling state assets. Yawn.
i understood what was being proposed was partial selldowns and maintaining majority stake.
why do national allow labour drones to get away with “asset sale” lines? Point out the weasel words that are being used. Fight back.
If i own a company 100% and sell a minority stake, i do not consider myself as having sold the asset. do not let them set the agenda by choosing the language.
– sorry if off topic…..
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May 26, 2011 10:28am
Ender

Fully agree with DD above. Selling a minority stake of a company to raise capital is not “asset sales” as Labour are making it out to be.

If anything, Labour should focus their attack on the lost dividend revenue in the long term from the shares sold. This is a much more credible sounding message if you ask me.

But since they haven’t already there is probably a reason for that… Apart from the fact they have the lights turned off and can’t see what they’re doing at the moment… And that most of their voters probably don’t know what the word dividend means.
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May 26, 2011 10:35am
Roflcopter

Check out comments by some of the biggest Labour sycophants, on Red Ablurt… they aint liking it.
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May 26, 2011 10:35am
lastmanstanding

You gotta laugh at the supreme irony here.

Let look at it.

So the Gumint sells 49% of power station to Kiwis. By the Socialists own reckoning those who buy the shares are rich pricks hated and loathed.

So the Gumint collects the coin from the rich pricks and puts it to use in Health Education etc etc instead of borrowing the same money from the rick prick banks overseas who require noty only the capitla repaid but also high rates of interest and all in foreign coin.

And the Socialists say its a bad bad thing.

So they would rather borrow from overseas or raise the taxes on the upper and middle class voters.

Wow Phil What a winner you are MORON
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May 26, 2011 10:35am
Bevan

That is the most immature piece of crap Ive seen in a long time.
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May 26, 2011 10:39am
Murray

And there’s been some stiff competition Bevan.
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May 26, 2011 10:40am
Adolf Fiinkensein

But, thirteen year olds don’t vote so, what’s the point of it all?
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May 26, 2011 11:04am
dog_eat_dog

@Ryan – I hope they got permission from Heath Franklin to use his face for the asset sales stuff too.
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May 26, 2011 11:10am
Murray

I’m shocked Adolf, you’ve identified a flaw in a labour plan, they’re usually so on the ball and in touch with public sentiment.
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May 26, 2011 11:25am
sweetd

A couple of fails in the game.

First, it shows Chuck Norris, who is a Republican, NRA member and supported Hucabee for President.

Second, it refers to the fight between Mallard and Tau, and shows them fighting in the green outside parliament. They miss the bit where Trev appear in court and is now a convicted thug?
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May 26, 2011 11:46am
Ryan Sproull

A couple of fails in the game.

First, it shows Chuck Norris, who is a Republican, NRA member and supported Hucabee for President.

Second, it refers to the fight between Mallard and Tau, and shows them fighting in the green outside parliament. They miss the bit where Trev appear in court and is now a convicted thug?

Eh? Does it show different stuff each time?

Replay value – more points.
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May 26, 2011 11:47am
RRM

O WOW –
An astronaut sitting on the bog, shitting out a burning alien offspring.

That’s pretty hard-hitting for NZ politics!
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May 26, 2011 11:54am
sweetd

Ryan, yep, you get different stuff each time.
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May 26, 2011 12:22pm
Michaels

Pathetic. And they want to run our country. I think not.
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May 26, 2011 12:29pm
Davo36

And no one points out that Labour has sold heaps of assets when in power. Telecom anyone? Anyone?
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May 26, 2011 12:36pm
Rodders

I laughed when I saw this, though:

http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/hone.jpg
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May 26, 2011 12:37pm
George Patton

The good: clever idea – animation and interaction is quite good.

The bad: lousy implementation. The Hone Harawira sketch worked because it’s completely believable, but the Brash Alien, “Gerald and the bikini”, and others were just dumb. No humour, just pathetic. As someone above said, it is humour for the 13 year olds. I don’t see many swinging voters being influenced by this.
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May 26, 2011 12:46pm
RightNow

“I don’t see many swinging voters being influenced by this.” – now that made me think. Which party is the most likely to attract swingers?
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May 26, 2011 12:56pm
George Patton

@RightNow – if you mean by sexually active polyamorous voters – then all political parties!

If you mean voters who actively choose their party based on current feelings rather than ideology, then I would suggest National.
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May 26, 2011 1:10pm
Ryan Sproull

Nah, it’s clever. You guys won’t like it. Of course you won’t. You’re not the target audience.

Their objective is to spread the Stop Asset Sales brand. They don’t even need to be convincing viewers that their stance is the right one. They just need to make that the topic of discussion. So they’ve got a replayable game mechanic with a variety of mildly amusing animations, sharing functionality at the end (only Facebook, but that’ll do), and the final choice in each iteration of play is the asset-sales choice.

Unlike previous ridiculous “social media” attempts, the message is inherent in the mechanic. You can’t engage with it without hearing about asset sales (as opposed to personalised Labour billboards that can say anything you like).

If it wasn’t for the copyright stuff, I’d say it’s a clever little device. Unfortunately, unless they sorted out those rights beforehand, and unless they’re extremely confident of some kind of artistic/satirical exception helping them out, they’re going to get sprung for it, and “Lucas Arts Sues Labour Party” will be the headline, rather than anything about asset sales.

Other than that, it’s an idea I’d be proud of, and an execution I wouldn’t cry myself to sleep over.
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May 26, 2011 1:22pm
PaulL

Doesn’t work for me, wrong version of flash apparently, or maybe it doesn’t like Firefox.

Anyway, reminds me of something I heard….podcast somewhere. A guy talking about simulation games, and in particular Sim City, Civilisation and the like. And how they have inbuilt communist tendencies – basically every one of those games models a planned economy….you as the player make every decision centrally, and the games generally have relatively simplistic and homogenous preferences of the “sims” that live within it. In short, they’re training the next generation of socialists.

Where is the game where the sims in it are all very different, with different wants and needs? And you are best placed to win the game if, instead of building everything yourself and making every decision, you just lay down some basic regulations and let the market run it’s course? Presumably that would be a boring game….but it’s interesting how political and economic thought turns up in places like games.

From the sounds the game we’re talking about from Labour, it isn’t really in this league, but interesting story nonetheless.
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May 26, 2011 2:33pm
side show bob

PaulL, no unfortunately works with firefox, Personally disappointed with the whole game, no farmer hating, gay, sexual deviants, commie loving suckholes in the whole turnout, Mallard is just a suckhole. . Standards are slipping at Liarbore.;side
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May 26, 2011 3:03pm
Mike Readman

PaulL, not in the original Sim City, the only I played. You only control zoning, where to place power, fire and police stations and local taxes. There aren’t many jurisdications that I’ve heard of where those things are decided privately. The land is sold to whomever wants to buy it and they build whatever they want on it as long as it’s the right type of building for that zone (industrial, commercial or residential). No resource consents, no density controls (a huge sykyscraper can be built in the middle of suburban neighborhood) or anything else like that.
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May 26, 2011 8:16pm

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