Ministerial House expenses

May 9th, 2011 at 11:24 am by David Farrar

Labour have gone from transport to bodyguards and now to paint in their desperate desire to splatter John Key. Maybe at some stage they will remember the public want to hear some policies from them on reducing the cost of living. At the moment their only policy is to increase power prices by 3% and petrol by 3c/litre.

Under this Government, all the ministerial houses are actually being sold, except for Premier House, Vogel House and Bolton Street as they are held in trust. But let us look at some of the house costs under Labour and see how they compare to around $200,000 on painting Premier House:

  • $1.133m on Vogel House when Jim Anderton lived there
  • $46.6m on Government House
  • $215,000 on Premier House in 2000
  • $177,000 on Matt Robson’s Wadestown Ministerial House
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48 Responses to “Ministerial House expenses”

  1. YesWeDid (1,048 comments) says:

    Actually at some stage I think the public would like to hear some policies from National for reducing the cost of living.

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  2. ch123 (647 comments) says:

    The most ridiculous thing about all this mud slinging that Labour are attempting is the MSM just laps it up and publishes it without doing any actual research. And the bias is worse than that. In the print version of the same article it refers to Premier House being “tarted up” in the opening paragraph (Stuff article here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/4975846/215-000-to-paint-Keys-Wellington-home with re-worded opening paragraphs).

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  3. Mick Mac (1,091 comments) says:

    This goes to show Goff is old news as a leader.
    common sense would dictate that anyone can look up this information historically so why did he allow it to be lead attack material.
    This stupid idea makes Labour look stupid and worthless in the ideas department, which means Goff too.

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  4. sthn.jeff (101 comments) says:

    Must admit $215k for paint­ing even a big house is not a good look in the publics eyes at the moment. There could be a lot more to it than that in terms of hav­ing to replace rot­ten tim­ber work etc, but in times of Aus­ter­ity, bet­ter to go for a job that will stop dete­ri­o­ra­tion than “the full monty”. It is all about pub­lic perception

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  5. jaba (2,141 comments) says:

    I saw Hippy, the new pistol Pete Hodgson, put this on redablurt .. geewizz

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  6. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    “Must admit $215k for paint­ing even a big house is not a good look ”

    Pretty sure most of this is carpets.

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  7. Moist von Lipwig (11 comments) says:

    $215,000 would buy a lot of tiling, even in 2000.

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  8. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    im sure the left wing media will be all over this.

    if they had half a brain though, they would attack labour over this sorta shit. they could actually force labour to take a look at itself and become something more than a laughing stock

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  9. Michaels (1,318 comments) says:

    Maybe at some stage they will remember the public want to hear some policies from them on reducing the cost of living. At the moment their only policy is to increase power prices by 3% and petrol by 3c/litre.

    I disagree, it is for reasons like this that they are desperately trying to keep their heads above 20%.
    I encourage them to keep the mud flying.
    At some point someone in there will come to the conclusion that when you keep doing the same thing you come up with the same result. So keep going fucktards :)

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  10. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    So the cost is the same as 2000? If National has been able to get a contract that doesn’t charge any extra for eleven years of price and wage rises, I’d say they’ve got a bloody good deal!

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  11. GPT1 (2,121 comments) says:

    These are public buildings with some degree of heritage value and an associated maintainance cost. Get over it.

    Point made above about MSM well made. Is one of the frustrating things about media attention – generally the less important the issue the more coverage there is. And, sadly, vice versa aplies.

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  12. DJP6-25 (1,387 comments) says:

    I wonder what they will find to entertain us with next week? No doubt the antique media will reflexively repeat it. I wonder which antique media outlet here will go down the toilet first? I only read their stuff if there is a link from a blog. The last time I read a newspaper was June 2010.

    The newspapers ihn Korea and Japan report the facts, and leave readers to draw their own conclusions. The reporter’s name and email are at the bottom of the article. The colums from Western guest writers is often editorial though. As you’d expect.

    cheers

    David Prosser

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  13. badmac (136 comments) says:

    Its now the main story on NZHerald. Sheeple will read it and add it to their “knowledge”. Damage done as far as labour are concerned. People won’t read the in depth analysis and rebuttal on sites like this, MSM creates the news again!

    And from the Herald article.
    From the $275k
    The renovations for Premier House included a $215,000 painting bill, $55,366 on re-carpeting and more than $3000 on new blinds.

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  14. voice of reason (490 comments) says:

    The renovations for Premier House included a $215,000 painting bill, $55,366 on re-carpeting and more than $3000 on new blinds

    $55k – carpets – OK can easily see that as reasonable – decent wool carpet is $250 lin metre
    $3k on Blinds – that seems cheap
    $215k on exterior painting – something is wrong here – based on 50/50 materials / labour split that would be about 550 x 10litre buckets of resene -

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  15. Bobbie black (507 comments) says:

    John Key laughed it off on Breakfast in a couple of minutes.

    Another failure Phil, try again?

    How about his underwear?

    I seem to remember that working for someone in the past.

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  16. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    A tsome stage I’d like to see left wing dickhead like yeswedid get the simple message that he doesn’t speack for the “New Zealand public”.

    We can already speak thanks.

    And this one is asking do Labour ever bother to check their own nappies for soiling before they start poiting the finger?

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  17. david (2,557 comments) says:

    vor – perhaps they took it back to bare wood and had to get rid of 15 lat=yers of crappy lead based badly done (MOW) paint jobs then primed, undercoated and 2 top coats with borer ridded and rotten weatherboards being replaced as they went.
    Not to mention the wooden frame small-pane windows that are a pig to prep and probably needed reglazing. The thing is that we just don’t know and frankly should have more important things to worry about.

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  18. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    @Bobbie – we are talking about government departments here. Since when have they ever done anything cheaply?

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  19. Put it away (2,878 comments) says:

    Labour showing yet again that they’ve got nothing but meaningless “rich prick” storms in teacups. I’ve never known a party to so clearly target morons. Labour voters does it make you proud to know that this is what your party thinks of your intellectual level?

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  20. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    > the public want to hear some policies from them on reducing the cost of living.

    Since National are in power, I think the public want to hear from them on reducing the cost of living. I suppose when you’re borrrowing $300 million per week, the cost of living might seem trivial.

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  21. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    We entertain peeps from overseas at Premier house right? like Hillary Clinton?

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  22. wreck1080 (3,905 comments) says:

    If a building needs painting it needs painting. So, that cannot be in dispute.

    I’d be more interested in the contract tendering process and who was awarded the job.

    Is 200k a reasonable bill for this job?

    If it is high, then why did they not award the job to the trusted contractor with the cheapest quote?

    Questions labour have not really addressed.

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  23. BeaB (2,123 comments) says:

    It always makes me laugh when I read these amateur accountants doing their costings of these jobs. You make yourselves look very silly- and completely out of touch with how these kinds of jobs are contracted out.
    I guess it’s the dumbo vote Labour are after now.

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  24. Paulus (2,626 comments) says:

    Typical useless media news makers – Herald and Dom both full of incompetants.

    If this is the best they can do gawd help us.

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  25. Mark (1,488 comments) says:

    DPF Is this issue really worth blogging about?

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  26. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    You could ask for a refund Mark.

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  27. big bruv (13,886 comments) says:

    Dime

    You still have the hots for Hillary don’t you…

    Is it a Denny Crane like fetish?

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  28. voice of reason (490 comments) says:

    BeaB – Of course I forgot to factor in the colour consultant, the enviromental care officer, the safety compliance operative, the scaffolding consultant, the paint brush advisor and the assistant fucking cunt.
    I’d guarantee the actual painters got the smallest portion by far.

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  29. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    Are Labour not in favour of maintaining NZ’s historical government-owned buildings? If so, should we leave them to fall apart gradually or would it be easier to just bulldoze them and get it over and done with quickly?

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  30. Megatron (188 comments) says:

    Labour are getting sadder and more desperate by the day. Next it will be the expensive brand of coffee John Key drinks compared to the Homebrand coffee consumed by Fa Goff. FFS!!

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  31. Nick R (507 comments) says:

    Strictly speaking, I don’t think this is entirely cynical on Labour’s part. I reckon they genuinely believe that Key is (eg) using helicopters and his police minders to look good because he has a raging sense of entitlement etc – however you want to put it. The problem is that they haven’t convinced the public.

    Maybe they reckon that if they keep up the pressure, eventually Key’s approval ratings will start to sag. But in the meantime it does look sad and desperate. Particularly because they keep putting up Pete Hodgson as the front man to make the allegations. If they really thought they had a solid hit they would have got Phil Goff to make the attack.

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  32. robcarr (84 comments) says:

    The issue I think is that it is hypocritical to say you can no longer afford to spend say $700,000 on women’s refuge because budget is tight but you can afford to spend $200,000 on painting, $75,000 on a helicopter ride, $800,000 on DPS etc…I imagine Labour has made a stockpile of dozens of these sorts of spends to release over the coming weeks. It is not so much that the spends themselves are unjustified uses of public money its the fact they are prioritising them over important public services for funding in times of tight budgets.

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  33. Rich Prick (1,700 comments) says:

    All of this nonsense leaves the distinct impression that Labour is desperate and clueless. What’s more we pay them to be an effective opposition, not a bunch of twats with too much time on their hands. It just isn’t working, in fact its back-firing.

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  34. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    It is not so much that the spends themselves are unjustified uses of public money its the fact they are prioritising them over important public services for funding in times of tight budgets.

    If you want to prioritise spending why not consider the waste of money paying Labour MP’s and their staff if this is what they choose to spend their time on. They are our employees, they should be working for us, not going on a self serving extended election campaign.

    This “priotities” campaign is pathetic – or why not insist that no MP is paid, no travel is paid for and no protection is provided for until every person is given all the medical care they need immediately?

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  35. noskire (842 comments) says:

    Key made a good point on Porridge this morning, and said why not look at overall Government expenditure under Labour, compared to the current Government.

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  36. Rick Rowling (813 comments) says:

    … because deferring maintenance on large wooden structures is always a good idea.

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  37. Muzza M (291 comments) says:

    I posted the following comment on Chris Hipkins Walking the Talk post at Red Alert, “Would have cost materials only if they had got the Thais to do it”. It was intended as a bit of humour. Deleted.

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  38. tvb (4,418 comments) says:

    The Government has to maintain its assets to a reasonable standard. Any PM who scrimps in this area deserves to be criticised. I bet John would rather spend his nights in his rather nice house in Parnell than a dreary old colonial mansion full of cheap and nasty pasticheur, that loses the sun early in damp cold Wellington.

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  39. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Labour and its apologists commentators here just do not get it.

    John Key is squeaky fucking clean.

    They can not comprehend that someone can be successful and not have trampled over numerous individuals along the way.
    He is a successful man, he has never had to be beholding for favours for advancement to get salary increases, he is just a good guy and I am really proud he is the PM. I love knowing that you can be materially successful without being an arsehole.

    Labour have tried for four or so years to get some shit on him and they hav’nt even been able to scare up a high school mate he shared a joint with, nothing.

    So they try and smear with expenses.

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  40. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    And also Trevor never mentioned last night regarding the DPS that the police had to buy the house next door to dear leaders house in Mt Eden to house the DPS when she was home when she was PM

    I have friends who are neighbours and houses in this street are not cheap, so a bit of painting is very small beer.

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  41. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    There’s a bit more of a market for selling a house when you’re finished with it compared to selling used paint.

    Talking of houses, Labour is a bit like an old house, the sort they call a doer upper.

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  42. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Great logic as normal Pete, rather National let buildings in trust for all New Zealanders are left to fall into total decay so they cost millions rather than thousands, a bit like our roading network.

    Some houses are to far gone to be doer uppers you just demolish them and burn them to ashes something labour appear to be doing to themselves

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  43. KevinH (1,227 comments) says:

    These type of stories evolve out of desperation, Labour are unable to compete in the big picture and have to amuse themselves playing the margins. Next week Pete Hodgson will probably blog the media on teabags or tiolet paper, anything to keep the red flags flying.

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  44. Whafe (650 comments) says:

    And Labour keeps giving, then giving, then giving some more….

    What a pathetic opposition Labour is, this country needs good opposition…..

    The Pinko’s are an amazing group of individuals….. Ppppppffffffttttttt

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  45. reid (16,442 comments) says:

    Yes but they’re not talking to any of us, they’re talking to the floating potential Liarbore voters, who aren’t us.

    It’s getting traction – all the stories taken together, you can guarantee that. Not much, but next poll that takes the helicopers, this, DPS et al in account, they’ll have a slight uptick.

    Then they’ll change gear and start really attacking Key and other senior govt figures, on integrity not just on carelessness.

    I’m not supporting it, I’m just saying, this is what’s going to happen.

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  46. Rich Prick (1,700 comments) says:

    Actually reid you have a point. They seem to be attempting a connect with the thick end of their demographic, and I mean thick in the most uncharitable way. Given socialism and Labour, its a rich vein. But for sure its to shore up that lot from the Hone influence, I think.

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  47. axeman (252 comments) says:

    What about when the Nats start developing Attack Adverts that the US Republicans used last year. Perhaps we can wait until the election campaign when they pull out all the stops and highlight the hypocrisy of Phil-in and his Liarbore party.

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  48. Rich Prick (1,700 comments) says:

    axeman, I suspect that we on the right are far too kind and polite to use that sort of shite. Labour love it, but we would far rather win on principles and policy, not whether Premier House gets painted. Or who has the biggest cock amongst the Maoris.

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