This will keep the legal profession busy
May 8th, 2011 at 10:28 am by David FarrarDavid Fisher in the HoS reports:
A prominent blogger is planning a book exposing philandering politicians to coincide with the election.
Blogger Cameron Slater plans to dish the dirt on male and female MPs from across the political spectrum.
He said he had kiss-and-tell stories from women who claimed to have had affairs with male politicians, including one who said she had slept with three past and present ministers.
Other sources included drivers and security staff.
“If you’re an MP and you’re partying, it’s game over,” said Slater. “The benchmark will be unethical behaviour.”
The book should be called the help keep the legal profession afloat 
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May 8th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Meh. Pollies are entitled to their private lives, and I really don’t care how many affairs they are having as long as (a) it doesn’t affect their work and (b) they haven’t stood up and preached family values, or held themselves out to be good family men, or women, as a means of garnering support. Other than that, the key criterion is ‘consenting adults’ and if the parties involved are consenting adults, then that’s all there is to it.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Is Cameron the new Patricia Bartlett?
Vote:We need to get away from politics as entertainment.
May 8th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Well I see someone?? is trying to run the Brash luv child story. Act and Hide are being blamed by Hooton.
Now I wonder if we should ask Hooton about a certain set of emails that surfaced a wee while back.
I have no idea but Hooton seems to me to have a certain destructive political nature. Everyone else has been blamed one way or another.
Often criminals will return to the scene of a crime.
Now who would have thought eh?
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 11:02 am
I dont agree with you Deborah. Politicians (any people for that matter) don’t live a disjointed, schizophrenic lifestyle where can be a ‘Dr Jekyll’ in public and live as ‘Mr Hyde’ in private.
If they try this sooner or later (as in the original story) their private (e.g. real) persona will show through in their public life.
If they are people of good character and principal in their private lives they will be the same in public. If they are ill disciplined in private sooner or later that will show through in their public lives.
The PC crap that what you do in your private life does not effect your public career and the nonsense you spout about consenting adults is a crock of crap.
For an example say we have a hypothetical MP who is married with 2 young kids. We will call him Bert. Bert and his secretary decide to have an affair which lasts for several months before his wife finds out. When she finds out they split up – she takes the kids, he moves in with the secretary.
So what you may ask what does this prove? Well it proves that the MP in question is a man of low character. He is selfish, puts his own impulses ahead of his wife’s feelings, and cares nothing for what impact his behaviour will have on his children.
Do we really want leaders who act like this? Shouldn’t we look to elect people of good character who can lead by example, who actually live orderly not just put on a good show.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am
@Deborah 10.37am.
Surely the test is whether the politician in question is a hypocrite. Off hand, I can’t think of too many politicians who have not incorporated some element(s) of family values into their platform. Reason is simple – most members of society actually do their best to uphold family values and it wouldn’t exactly be a vote winner to go to the electorate condoning family violence and /or infidelity.
So if the politician(s) now think its OK to cast some values aside when it suits them, then their actions should be subject to scrutiny. The same applies to any politician who has gone to the electorate on a platform of honesty – if the same person has contravened these principles, then the electorate should have the benefit of knowing about it too. Besides, when someone offers themselves for parliament, they know that, if elected their private lives are no longer ‘private’.
In my view, I suspect this book is not about “consenting adults” but rather about hypocrisy. Slater is no mug and I’m sure his own lawyers will have checked the content for veracity before it goes to print.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 11:15 am
This is another great waste of bloody time and if you can’t get elected on issues and policies you’ve got no business being in the running.
Don’t we have enough gossip mags for the fish chip shops already?
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Private life should only come into it if they’re hypocritical.
@jims_whare: The psychology of most people is likely to be a lot more complex than you seem to think.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am
What about a certain PM who was denied she was gay – has Cameron talked to her the Police who knew about her regular late night visitor?
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Consenting adults can do as they please.
Yawnies.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Yes and that ‘late night visitor’ who would always say ‘Good morning’ to the DPS when she left. Always with a smile on the face as she knew nothing could/would be disclosed.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Anthony its shit like that that makes the inudeno based attack campaigns look desperate and hollow. If you can’t stick to the issues then you’re just working for the other side and the hysteria based media.
At least get them to pay you if you’re going to whore for them.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
nice. its about time some of these scumbags got exposed.
one of the many things ill never forgive helen clarke for was her pre election interviews. where she would sit next to her hubby and tell holmes all about their daily lives, they were in love etc.
then she had the balls to bag the don over an affair. “hes not honest with the public” or some such.
hey hypocrisy knew no bounds. but no one ever called her on it.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
RRM likes CAMERON SLATER: NEW ZEALAND’S NEWEST AND MOST EROTIC ROMANCE NOVELIST
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Live in Welly long enough, its amazing what you see. When I lived in the hills of Ngaio, for around 5 years, there was a certain male MP who would be dropped off at a house 2 doors down from me late on a Sunday night, and then collected again, in Crown car, early Monday when I would be going out or coming back from a run. Would be walking on the way back to cool down, and would chat to the driver who would be standing by his car. Got to know him quite well
The scum bag MP would finish up, and then head in to town. My then wife, now ex, got to know said lady in the house, very well in fact, she charged a damned good rate we were told 
Same MP would also fly in to AKL from Welly, then get a Crown car to take him to Hamilton. Apparently the girls down there were less discerning than the AKL girls. Who knew
Frankly, I give a shit – BUT, if they moralise or hold themselves out as guardians of our morals, they deserve to get taken down.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Will it be out in time for the xmas market and how many chapters devoted to Winston.?
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Whale gave the due date a week or so ago.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Putting aside the fact that the current governments kneejerk, ignorant and downright retarded amendments to our tax laws are keeping the legal profession afloat, it looks like a good read.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Public figures private lives should be private.
But while we’re touting the opposite, is Slater still on the sickness benefit? He seems to be doing a lot for someone who claims to be too sad to work.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Bed Rater does that apply to Brash with his ranting about family values ?
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Grumpy – Yes
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Bed Rater @ 3.21pm
Slater’s wife works as a teacher. On a teacher’s salary I don’t think that their household would qualify for much in the way of assistance from WINZ.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Murray suggests:
Damn right in principle. And I wish it were true in practice. But for it to be so we’d first need to sweep through the “news” rooms of the nation weeding out the hopeless, the inxperienced (and promoted above the level of their presence competence on the basis of looks, usually, busting them back to cub reporters), the prima donnas who think the news is what they think about an issue, and the “editors” like the one who presides over the cesspit that is the SST.
Otherwise, you try talking about why we’re borrowing and hoping; or why we’re locking up more and more people; or why we’re not sensibly exploiting the minimal natural assests we have; or why vast swathes of people emerge from the education system functionally illiterate, when the candidate you’re up against is running endless photo ops.
FFS the nation was obsessed for some time when a particularly inept and narcissitic Minister got her nostril pierced… and you want candidates to talk policy?
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Rex
Although it is doubtful that my regard for most reporters employed by the MSM in NZ could drop any lower I will briefly take the role of Devil’s advocate.
It would seem that the average MP is incapable of answering any question with other than regurgitated soundbites. The party hierarchies consign constituent MPs to spreading goodwill among the voters & are fed minimal information in case one of them forgets their lines & ad libs. The list MP’s are not easily accessible to the media & in any case are mere puppets beholden to the elite who are unlikely to utter anything not carefully prepared & delivered in vacuous newspeak. Cabinet ministers have spin doctors to avoid the possibility of probing questions being answered directly.
In light of the above & the pressing need to fill in the little space left between ads, both in newspapers & TV, it is small wonder that crafted media releases & nose stud exposes fill in for what used to be political news.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
The problem with the whole principle of not bothering with someone’s private life unless they are a moraliser or it is hypocritical, is that if you are on the right, journalists seem to love to make exceptions. Why were Don Brash and Deborah Coddington dragged through the mud for their misdeeds? There is a double standard at work here – leftists can sleep around all they like, but those on our side of the fence get put in the stocks.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Quite right Blair, which is why I mentioned the former PM. And for Murray’s benefit, I heard it from someone who had no reason to tell me lies so I’m quite sure it is true.
Vote:May 8th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
If they are people of good character and principal in their private lives they will be the same in public. If they are ill disciplined in private sooner or later that will show through in their public lives.
The PC crap that what you do in your private life does not effect your public career and the nonsense you spout about consenting adults is a crock of crap.
I’m with Jim.
Vote:It is the highest court in the land. They pontificate on people and the way they live their lives. they treat parliament as their own playpen and write law retrospectively to hide their own breaking of the law, they write laws to control others behaviour.
Sod em, write on Whaleoil, even add a few judges, lawyers and Police who appear in court on our behalf.
Let the truth out.
May 9th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Will Rachel Glucina be collaborating?
Vote:May 9th, 2011 at 8:50 am
When a politician starts saying that Coro Street is smut and campaigns for it to be moved to a later time slot then we can start looking into their private lives…oh wait that’s already happened.
Vote:May 9th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Before Slater publishes his witch hunt of adulterous politicians perhaps someone might like to ask what the words Chartwell, Coromandel & Cameron have in common apart from the letter “C” ? A question asked this morning at Gotcha which was swiftly deleted.
I am fairly sure that as a devout Christian Slater is familiar with John 8:7. “So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”
Vote:May 9th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
This, like the Brash story at the moment, isn’t news worthy. The only time private lives at all should come into the public sphere is where they trying to take some moralistic view in the house which runs contrary to it, and even then I would rather argue on the facts.
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