Is Sweden emasculating boys? Is NZ next?

June 29th, 2011 at 11:42 am by Jadis

I am hoping like hell that our policy makers in the area of Early Childhood Education aren’t looking to as way of the future.

Simply put, the Swedish National Curriculum for Early Childhood Education affirms three values - children’s rights, gender equity, and education for sustainable development.  The gender equity component indicates that girls and boys should have the same opportunities to develop and learn “without limitations imposed by stereotyped gender roles and patterns.”  So, the teachers in have worked to counteract traditional gender patterns and gender roles.  I am actually supportive of that, within limits.

The latest, albeit radical,  representation is the pre-school with no gender references.  This is a taxpayer-funded provider.

  • There are no fairytales
  • All children are referred to as “friends” (may as well be ‘comrades’)
  • No references to ‘him’, ‘her’, ‘he’ or ‘she’
  • Construction activities (like Lego) are placed next to the toy kitchen so that no “barriers” are in place between the two activities

But this centre also goes further to breakdown views beyond just gender – into “fostering an environment that is tolerant of gay, lesbian, bi-sexual and transgender people.” So, this centre has:

  • books that represent gay or lesbian parents, solo parents, and adopted children
  • teachers who suggest children can be “two Mums” and not just the stereotypical Mum and Dad

To be fair, this is a radical example and representation of the new direction for ECE in Stockholm.  And, there are certainly calls  for it from parents and caregivers – the Centre Director says there is a long waiting list for admission to the kindy.

My concern, shared by Child Psychologist Jay Belsky, is that boys like doing boy things and that if ECE is to go to the extremes as evident above then we run the risk of emasculating our boys.  Yes, it is important to break down barriers for girls and women to succeed but not at the expense of boys and men.  In turn, I do want to see an acknowledgment of different family structures however this centre appears to have gone beyond the ‘tipping point’.  I suspect it is meeting a need within their local community.

The New Zealand education system needs to reject the Swedish model (and radical representations) and instead focus on celebrating being male and being female without placing undue barriers or judgments in the way.  The problem with removing gender is that too many pieces of curriculum actually remove ‘being male’ and inadvertantly place the ‘being female’ as more important.  The more that we emasculate our boys the fewer roles we allow them to have within our society.

 

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87 Responses to “Is Sweden emasculating boys? Is NZ next?”

  1. KH (686 comments) says:

    Viva la difference !
    or should that be “Viva le difference !” ?

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  2. kingofthejuice (5,682 comments) says:

    Funny how we never seem to hear the word “effemulate”. I still expect the Swedish boy toddlers will still try to break their toys, whilst the girl toddlers will try to dress them up.

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  3. cha (3,539 comments) says:

    “effemulate”.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/8601488/Indians-pay-surgeons-to-turn-girls-into-boys.html

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  4. garethw (205 comments) says:

    NZ shouldn’t adopt the policy of one single extreme example. Thanks for clearing that up.

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  5. Andrei (2,431 comments) says:

    I reckon New Zealand males have been pretty much emasculated already judging by the nonsense that has dominated the media for the past few days.

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  6. KH (686 comments) says:

    That men are different from women and women are different from men is one of the great delights of Human existence

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  7. EverlastingFire (290 comments) says:

    I guess the Greens just got their new policy.

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  8. adze (1,695 comments) says:

    I was expecting worse based on the intro. I think the lack of fairytales is a little boring, and possibly limiting because children need stories. They could always be more selective.
    The main thing is not to impose any particular identity. Identity is emergent from a combination of environment/upbringing and inherited characteristics.

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  9. kingofthejuice (5,682 comments) says:

    @cha (1,004) Says:

    June 29th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
    “effemulate”.

    Not quite what I had in mind….. perhaps tomboyify

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  10. nasska (9,549 comments) says:

    The idiots who push this tripe need to realise that they do not suppress the natural differences between the sexes….they merely remove the ways to practise said differences. A bit further down the track & these poor little buggers have no learned means of expressing their masculinity & anything they do brings them into conflict with the law.

    In the new age possession of testosterone will be a crime.

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  11. Sven (1 comment) says:

    You do have to understand the Swedish culture to understand why this might work there but would not work here. I lived there for a while and the culture is already very eqalitarian, including as between the sexes. Indeed the culture seems to be very liberating for women who seemed (from my perspective) far more self-confident and self-assured than a number of women in NZ. If I had a daughter I believe she would get more opportunities in Sweden than here, from a conditioning perspective at least (they are conditioned as equals and are equal – I do not think we condition girls with that mentality here yet). The boys didn’t seem to suffer in any way either as far as I can tell. I thought a lot of my guy mates there were a bit whipped at times and while at school at least a bit dependent on Mum & Dad, but they seem to grow out of it (the compulsory military training, now all but gone, used to fix that for them!).

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  12. Daigotsu (446 comments) says:

    Might as well be comrades!

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  13. lastmanstanding (1,154 comments) says:

    KH Wash your mouth out with soap.

    Over the past 3 or so decades I have found it so amusing the attempts to turn boys into girls and girls into boys and both into something in between.

    Thousands of years of human history and development has been caste aside by these zealot morons seeking to change nature.

    Fact is they are insecure little people awash with mental difficulties so i have largely cut them some slack except where they seek to ram their nonsense dwon my throat as the Socialist Gumint of 1999 2008 did on many occassions.

    We must continue the good fight of resistance of these daffy people and their wierd ideas.

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  14. Seán (396 comments) says:

    Hell freezes over and Farrar goes socially conservative. What it takes…

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  15. Banana Llama (1,105 comments) says:

    Vanilla Ice cream sucks it’s why we have other flavors.

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  16. youami (45 comments) says:

    Here’s a thought – why not get the government the hell out of ECE, give the money saved back to families as a tax cut, then let the private sector fill the need for ECE and allow parents to decide how they want their children to be educated?

    On second thoughts, why not do that with all education?

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  17. Daigotsu (446 comments) says:

    The real question is, will NZ be next? Yes – if Phool Goff has his way

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  18. thomasbeagle (78 comments) says:

    They give them toys of different sorts to play with and refuse to suggest that boys should play with trucks and girls with kitchens – but leave them to choose what they want to do themselves.

    Why is this so scary to you? Are you really complaining that the centre lets children choose what they want to do?

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  19. Paulus (2,298 comments) says:

    Why is it that little girls play with dolls,
    and little boys play with soldiers————-

    BUT

    Big girls play with soldiers
    and big boys play with dolls.

    Am confused.

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  20. mikenmild (8,892 comments) says:

    Reminds me a little of a scene from Monty Python’s ‘The Meaning of Life’. A woman, aftergiving birth asks the doctor if the baby is a boy or a girl. Doctor: “Well, I think it’s a little early to be imposing roles on the child.”

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  21. cha (3,539 comments) says:

    On second thoughts, why not do that with all education?

    They are, in the Republic of Georgia.

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  22. Mick Mac (1,091 comments) says:

    yeah this is so bad, the nasty feminists !
    Pity they keep missing this.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/27/opinion/27douthat.html?_r=2
    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1990/dec/20/more-than-100-million-women-are-missing/?pagination=false

    But then I suppose to the liberal white guilt ridden feminists these women are poor black/coloured and far away, ohh and don’t vote or have power they want to co-opt.

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  23. Manolo (12,637 comments) says:

    There are no fairytales.
    You bet the number of Swedish “fairies” will increase.

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  24. Mick Mac (1,091 comments) says:

    David
    When reading the article out to the wife at breakfast I hadn’t got 1/4 in when she commented “Is it homosexual run”?
    I found that 3/4 of the way through and noted that most of their books were supportive or about LGBT “families” no what we might consider normal euro literature.

    Another reason to not vote Labour/Greens

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  25. Phil (117 comments) says:

    I’m finding it very difficult to get angry about this Nordic development, mainly because it has always been my belief that kids are smarter than their educators. They learn and discover the world at their own pace, and will continue to do so regardless of the gender roles they’re exposed to (or not) at a kindergarten.

    Like the sage advice goes: When parents decide to have the “Bird’s and Bee’s” talk with their kids, they really should take a notepad and paper with them. They’re more likely to be the ones who are learning something new.

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  26. James Stephenson (1,885 comments) says:

    You bet the number of Swedish “fairies” will increase.

    Have they not figured out that the high-point of Swedish global influence was when their men were running around with big axes and horns on their helmets?

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  27. wreck1080 (3,527 comments) says:

    Hilarious.

    Next, they will begin to castrate boys to make them more like females.

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  28. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    “fostering an environment that is tolerant of gay, lesbian, bi-sexual and transgender people.”

    Shame they can’t find room to foster and environment tolerant of heterosexuals and heterosexulaity.

    We date, we’re straight, get used to it!

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  29. Bob R (1,253 comments) says:

    In the book ‘The Blank Slate’ Steven Pinker talked about some communes which tried to do away with socially constructed gender behaviours. Unfortunately, a lot of this stuff is basically hardwired so these Swedish social engineers will fail in their quest to do away with gender roles.

    Doreen Kimura has also written extensively about gender differences in cognition.

    “Sex differences in cognition are not trivial nor have the most salient differences declined over the last three decades. There is compelling evidence that sex hormones are a major influence in the organization, and perhaps the maintenance, of cognitive sex differences. Anatomical brain differences are also well established, though we have yet to associate these firmly with the cognitive sex differences. While it is reasonable to question the specifics of the traditional hunter-gatherer evolutionary schema, it is argued that it remains valuable in providing a paradigm for understanding human sex-differentiated behaviour, since it is capable of generating hypotheses that can be tested.”

    http://www.sfu.ca/~dkimura/articles/human%20cognition%20.htm

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  30. Sam Buchanan (499 comments) says:

    Nothing like offering parents a market choice to get Kiwiblog fans in a froth!

    “the high-point of Swedish global influence was when their men were running around with big axes and horns on their helmets?”

    Actually the horned helmets were purely ornamental, but the Viking men did annoy Anglo-Saxon men by using tricks like wearing eye shadow and perfume, and taking baths to impress the Anglo-Saxon women.

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  31. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    Nothing like rejecting bullshit solcial engineering boardering on eugenics to have the fucktard tree huggers jump in with the usual accusations.

    ACTUALLY no Viking ever had horns on his helmet.

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  32. RRM (8,994 comments) says:

    This whole society has been going downhill ever since they said you weren’t allowed to own negro slaves any more.

    Bloody limp-wristed liberal PC bull$h!t…

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  33. James Stephenson (1,885 comments) says:

    Yes Sam, and most of the Vikings were Danes…sheesh, who made you the artistic licence police?

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  34. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    I agree we should be able to own any person regardless of their colour and how plain fucking stupid they are.

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  35. RRM (8,994 comments) says:

    PS: My 6yo girl has a little boy friend at school who plays “girly” games with her sometimes. I understand he even owns a My Little Pony.

    But when she bashed her forehead open on a window, he went with her in the ambulance, held her hand, helped keep the bandage in place and took her mind off the profuse bleeding.

    He was basically a little man among men, no problems there at all. (I hope my girl still prefers men of his character when she is 17…)

    But obviously you Jadis have better ideas about what “real” men and boys should do?

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  36. Shane Pleasance (27 comments) says:

    I’m with a free market model. It’s the only morally correct choice, comrades.

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  37. mikenmild (8,892 comments) says:

    Political correctness gone mad.

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  38. tom hunter (4,010 comments) says:

    Actually we do have a similar problem here in NZ already:

    - Most voters are are referred to as “dependents” (may as well be ‘comrades’)

    - ETS is still in place.

    - We’re still borrowing $NZ 1 billion per month just to tread water.

    - None of the government departments like the Ministry of Wimens Affairs that help push this sort of crap have been abolished. They’re still there, just waiting for a kindly Labour-Green-Maori government to start beefing them up again with increased government spending.

    - No references to “replacing government education spending with individual allocations”, or “replace government healthcare spending with individual insurance”.

    - Construction activities (like Chch) are placed next to government departments so that a watchful eye can be kept on those silly little people who endulge in activities that are “wrong.”

    - There are no fairytales

    Oh but there are. We’re living one as we speak. In fact it’s such a wonderful fairy tale that, Inception-like, we prefer to talk about something happening in Far, Far Away Land that’s very unlikely to see the light of day in NZ.

    Yes! Let’s froth about that.

    Clap….. clap….. clap.

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  39. La Grand Fromage (145 comments) says:

    From Viking raiders to bum hole raiders in just a few generations.

    Impressive social engineering by the Scandi pinkos.

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  40. gravedodger (1,426 comments) says:

    All children are referred to as “friends”
    Two issues here for me.
    1 Are they allowed to be referred to as “children” I wonder how damaging this term of classification is in destroying their status as Little Adults eh.
    2 Swmbo and self emphasised to our spawn that there is a gulf between “Friends” and “acquaintances”.
    All to no avail apparently, however they overcame that enormous handicap and turned out as very successful if I may ever so humbly say so.

    A friend in our understanding was a very close, supportive, intimate and trusted role that would be filled by a quite small number of the many acquaintances they would accumulate as they moved through life, my opinion is not lessened. To include all one meets in the friendship category merely cheapens that very special status.

    I concur, comrades is so very much more appropriate.

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  41. berend (1,602 comments) says:

    Seán, this post isn’t written by Farrar.

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  42. PaulL (5,776 comments) says:

    I don’t get what DPF is being outraged at. There’s lots of choice in here:
    – let children choose toys
    – put lego next to play kitchen
    – a range of books including those with positive LGBT role models
    – a range of games to play, including some that allow 2 mums

    None of that worries me. Hell, most people I know do the same for their kids – let them play with whatever toys they want.

    The only bits that sound a bit silly is the whole removing of he/she etc. But hey, not like we’re forcing parents to send their kids here, are we.

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  43. Shane Pleasance (27 comments) says:

    @mikenmild – political correctness is of itself ‘mad’.
    @tom hunter – bravo sir! Well said. I mean comrade.

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  44. Sonny Blount (1,829 comments) says:

    Sam,

    Vociferous criticism is part of the free market as well.

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  45. Ryan Sproull (6,661 comments) says:

    But this centre also goes further to breakdown views beyond just gender – into “fostering an environment that is tolerant of gay, lesbian, bi-sexual and transgender people.” So, this centre has:

    books that represent gay or lesbian parents, solo parents, and adopted children
    teachers who suggest children can be “two Mums” and not just the stereotypical Mum and Dad

    It gets worse. These Swedish preschools have books that represent inter-racial couples as parents.

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  46. kingofthejuice (5,682 comments) says:

    @Banana Llama (1,054) Says:

    June 29th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
    “Vanilla Ice cream sucks it’s why we have other flavors.”

    I’m rather partial to vanilla icecream with whipped cream, chopped banana and topped with walnuts and chocolate sauce.

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  47. tom hunter (4,010 comments) says:

    As I said earlier – why get stirred up about this stuff when we have so much other nonsense to deal with, such as an event at my daughter’s Girl Guides outdoor evening a year or so ago.

    The girls were told that they were not allowed to climb any trees.

    At Girl Guides.

    I had to laugh. It was either that or burst into tears and ….

    … Dammit.

    You see how this works? All it took was a few older, feminist cousins of mine in the 1970′s! A curse upon you all!

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  48. Jadis (147 comments) says:

    RRM – sounds like a lovely boy with plenty of empathy. I would hope my son and daughter would both do the same. I think it is ok for children to choose where they playand what they play with. I am not so enamoured with discarding or judging existing norms… Isnt there a way to be truly Inclusive or represent the community that attends an ECE. Centre?
    I dont really have an issue with the Glbt friendly books as they appear to reflect the world the children who attend that centre live in. I think it is more concerning that some teaching discards some more traditional roles or modes of play for men. And women.

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  49. Jadis (147 comments) says:

    Tom – very nicely put

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  50. Bob R (1,253 comments) says:

    ***The only bits that sound a bit silly is the whole removing of he/she etc. But hey, not like we’re forcing parents to send their kids here, are we.***

    Indeed, and it will appeal to the same blank slate ideologues that Pinker referred to. As noted above, they’ll find that their efforts to remove social gender distinctions will run into human nature.

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  51. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    There are some ideas that seem to survive no matter how much solid research proves them to be fallacious. It’s almost as though some people *want* them to be true, regardless of the evidence…

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  52. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    When will the lunatic left ever learn, why do they continue to try to redefine the laws of nature. I suspect these social engineers were the class outcasts in their younger years, with many now resolved to rid the world of their perceived persecutors by messing with the minds of our young.

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  53. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    Farrar – its normally you pushing this type of thought process and having a go at anyone who dares open up the subject of gender differences. Tolerance has two meanings. One is where things will get better – eg: when learning to drive. The other meaning is to accept a lowering of standrads that you would normally not allow.
    In many matters what this world needs is less of this type of tolerance.

    adze @12.10. All the experiments tell us that environment is as important as inheritance (of genes). If the environment is all neutral then you can expect them all to grow up with a bias towards the neutral. What a bloody boring society that would be.

    wreck1080@ 1.21 – well the italians and others used to do this – they called then castratoes – they just loved them in the opera. Problem was that they sort of died out due to an inability to reproduce………

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  54. Ryan Sproull (6,661 comments) says:

    When will the lunatic left ever learn, why do they continue to try to redefine the laws of nature. I suspect these social engineers were the class outcasts in their younger years, with many now resolved to rid the world of their perceived persecutors by messing with the minds of our young.

    Side Show Bob,

    I couldn’t agree more.

    The politically correct Left have a lot of tools at their disposal in their social engineering, too. Look at how many Hollywood films and TV shows are showing inter-racial couples as if they’re normal. Here in New Zealand, Shortland Street is at the forefront of pushing these agendas on children in a 7pm weekday slot. The unnatural union of different races has been a consistent theme in Shortland Street, along with other TV shows – Outrageous Fortune, Go Girls, etc.

    In the US, the Cosby Show even had a child psychologist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_F._Poussaint) consulting on the show about how to indoctrinate viewers with this politically correct social engineering.

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  55. mikenmild (8,892 comments) says:

    Ryan

    I seem to recall that NzOnAir even made the producers of Shortland Street feature a same-sex relationship. Quelle horreur!

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  56. Ryan Sproull (6,661 comments) says:

    I seem to recall that NzOnAir even made the producers of Shortland Street feature a same-sex relationship. Quelle horreur!

    Yes, Shortland Street has been presenting such unnatural situations as homosexual relationships, inter-racial relationships, single parents, and nurse/paramedic fraternisation as normal for years. All part of their politically correct agenda.

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  57. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    I’d like to call this retarded, but that would be unfair to retarded people. I’m sure it’ll become Green policy, if it’s not already.

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  58. mikenmild (8,892 comments) says:

    I link our moral decline to the abolition of corporal punishment

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  59. RightNow (6,348 comments) says:

    Having a boy child and a girl child is a great eye-opener. They’re different, it’s a fact, and I wouldn’t dream of interfering with their natural development. My daughter is younger (almost 3 vs almost 7 for the boy) but is already able to wield a pencil/pen/crayon more adroitly than my son. It’s the way it is. Her vocabulary is developing at an astounding rate, and I think partly this is because she has an older sibling, which he doesn’t, but also I think girls naturally develop faster in this area.
    Additionally my girl plays out social scenarios with her toys (e.g. tucking her toys into bed and narrating what she’s doing, talking both to them and as them) which the boy has never really done.
    Perhaps the lab rats in this Swedish experiment (for that’s what they are) may turn this around in the boys’ favour? Equality would have huge benefits for boys.

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  60. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    Mikenmild-I’m the one who quotes Blackadder and Python around here. Without that gem I have nothing further to add….

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  61. mikenmild (8,892 comments) says:

    Sorry Longknives, I’ll try to widen my source material.

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  62. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Ryan, yes thank God for Shortland street, I must someday watch it but for the life of me I can’t see why. At least those watching SS are probably old enough to know their heads are been messed with but I doubt it. All this shit these lunatics are getting away with in Sweden is simply an attempt to advance the belief that all are equal and every relationship is of equal value, although I suspect the gay community would be happy to have every child believe their relationships are of greater value then those who prefer a bit of difference. I have no problems with any relationships adults engage in but I have a problem when children are trained to believe and act out situations that should be their choices when they enter the adult world.

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  63. Steve (4,327 comments) says:

    Sooks and wimps, that’s all I can say. Surrounded by them. Sooks and wimps breed sooks and wimps, the whole world is being taken over by sooks and wimps.
    All part of the plan of females to make you just like them. Come on guys, grow some balls, stand up to this before you become a sook or a wimp or both

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  64. dime (8,778 comments) says:

    Rrm – your daughters friend is gay. He was just being a good girl friend.

    Good luck trying to engineer the alpha out if dimes future offspring.

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  65. Viking2 (10,736 comments) says:

    Daigotsu (22) Says:
    June 29th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    The real question is, will NZ be next? Yes – if Phool Goff has his way

    Add to that the Greens, progressives, Maori and some of the Nats. Doesn’t bode well for the future when you look at it like that.

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  66. mikenmild (8,892 comments) says:

    It all seems pretty harmless really. I haven’t noticed any adverse effects from children coming through the education system except that they seem to have less hang ups about race, gender and sexuality than their parents.

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  67. simonway (356 comments) says:

    My concern, shared by Child Psychologist Jay Belsky, is that boys like doing boy things

    So they’ll play with the lego, then. What’s the big deal? It doesn’t sound like there’s any mention of forcing them to wear pink and have tea parties.

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  68. GK (97 comments) says:

    A couple I know tried the gender-neutral route with their 2 daughters and 1 son. Epic fail. The boy was not allowed toy guns or to watch violent movies. Shaved his own long haired head at 5, swapped some other toys for a set of camo pants, made his own toy guns out of wood etc. Last I heard he was a mad keen outdoors teenage hunter and fisherman.

    The girls were encouraged to do boy stuff and were never seen in a skirt. Someone got the pants off them and now they’re teenage mothers.

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  69. Steve (4,327 comments) says:

    “What’s the big deal? It doesn’t sound like there’s any mention of forcing them to wear pink and have tea parties.”

    Those are the only choices left if the loopy left get control

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  70. Martin Gibson (206 comments) says:

    “The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along without a mother’s care, shall be in state institutions at state expense.” Karl Marx

    “We [must] replace home education [with] social [education].” The motive: sever the transmission belt of values and stability — the family.” Karl Marx

    “We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things.” Karl Marx

    “Anyone who knows anything of history knows that great social changes are impossible without feminine upheaval. Social progress can be measured exactly by the social position of the fair sex, the ugly ones included.” Karl Marx

    Hang on! Some of this stuff is sounding seriously familiar! Those pesky useful idiots!

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  71. mikenmild (8,892 comments) says:

    Steve

    So has anything changed in education since the centre-right took charge?

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  72. reid (15,593 comments) says:

    Yes you really know Political Correctness really is psychobabble bullshit when you see well-meaning people get so carried away they try to deny our own genetics in the name of the cause.

    What the hell is wrong with these people?

    Rhetorical question.

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  73. Shunda barunda (2,964 comments) says:

    Ryan likes shortland street!!

    So Ryan, are you really an emotionally damaged insecure middle aged woman?

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  74. Chuck Bird (4,415 comments) says:

    “It gets worse. These Swedish preschools have books that represent inter-racial couples as parents.”

    Ryan, let me tell you something son. I man and woman of whatever race can reduce children. Two men of the same race or of different races can fuck each other up the arse till the cows come home and they will not produce any children.

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  75. noskire (797 comments) says:

    Heck, didn’t realise Shortland Street was still on air.

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  76. James (1,338 comments) says:

    Bigot Bird: Ryan, let me tell you something son. I man and woman of whatever race can reduce children. Two men of the same race or of different races can fuck each other up the arse till the cows come home and they will not produce any children.

    Oh I dunno Chuck….they seem to cause insecure baby’s like you to appear and have a tanty.

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  77. wolfjung (59 comments) says:

    what’s next?……..normalized testosterone and estrogen levels via adulterated raro juice?
    What ever shit Hulun Klark has been drinking all these years has made her into the fairer sex.

    It’s typical of what feminists strive for, the unisex, because they know they just want to be men. (take note Penny and don’t forget to drink your raro juice)

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  78. mpledger (428 comments) says:

    It’s seems to me that masculinity must be a very tenuous characteristic if it can be destroyed by the absence of gendered pronouns and nouns, and where toys are stored.

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  79. LabourDoesntWork (278 comments) says:

    Don’t worry mpledger…..LoL. Such measures are indeed doomed to failure- except to make boys feel persecuted in an effort to suppress their normal selves. Btw, such asexual social engineeering is also targeted at girls NOT just boys…

    It’s amusing that feminist gender roles MUST be imposed through denial of the obvious reality of boys’ and girls’ distinct natures, and necessarily work against the natural role-modeling (which isn’t even deliberate or conscious most of the time) of their parent(s) at home, in order to be successful. And attempting to create and recruit, from the next generation, asexuals in order to remake society, is a laughably self-defeating social engineering movement.

    But it can – and will – do its damage if allowed to get its way.

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  80. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    check this out in youtube: Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis (Part 1)

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  81. immigant (950 comments) says:

    self-defeating social engineering movement is key phrase here.

    School shoudl be teaching kids things like kindness, compassion, duty. Not bullshit gender roles that life will sort out for them later anyway. It’s not about gender or all that new age rubbish it’s about very basic and very old human values that we need to pass on to the younger generation. Otherwise they will grow up very unisex but awfull, selfish people, and that would be worst of all.

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  82. Dazzaman (1,114 comments) says:

    PaulL

    – a range of books including those with positive LGBT role models

    There are none…..lgbt role models that is.

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  83. Murth (26 comments) says:

    I’m not sure why Farrar is concerned about “alternative” families being presented in some books to kids. It is simply a reflection of the society that we live in.

    @ Dazzaman – There are plenty of LGBT role models, maybe not for you but there are a lot of admirable men and women that can be examples to others gay, straight or other.

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  84. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    The alt.sexuality.edu freaks need to remember the vast majority of humanity follow their genetic programming and that genetic programming is gender based i.e. boys like building and breaking while girls like communicating and nurturing. Don’t try and foist the requirements of 5% of the population onto the other 95%.

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  85. Crusader (225 comments) says:

    Look, it doesn’t matter. It makes no difference what some Swedes do with their kids, they will find that boys will still be boys and girls will still be girls. They are different, as every parent who has both types already knows. Just spend a while standing in a kindergarten and observe. Unless you arrive with a pre-conceived resentful feminist bias which sees discrimination wherever you look, you will note the kids just being different. Try to get the boys to play kitchen and they will deconstruct it.

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  86. Seán (396 comments) says:

    berend said: “Seán, this post isn’t written by Farrar.”

    Thanks berend, you are right, I didn’t realise this. So I take my comment back. Now it makes more sense.

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  87. Dazzaman (1,114 comments) says:

    Like who Murth, one of your boyfriends? Go & stink up another blog.

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