Cactus Kate MP

June 25th, 2011 at 10:04 pm by David Farrar

Audrey Young reports:

Cathy Odgers, the author of the acerbic website , is expected to be approved today as an candidate – one of the reasons sitting MP is likely to today announce she will stand down at this year’s election.

Heather has since announced her retirement. It is a shame that the internal politics of the last year played out the way it did. I’m someone who admired both Rodney and Heather, and think they both made good contributions to Parliament.

Cathy’s impending demotion to Parliament has appalled and excited many on the left. First we have Bomber.

Ladies and Gentlemen, let me be 1000% clear, Cathy Odgers is a hateful person who is the very last human being one would ever wish to enter politics.

I understand that Cactus is delighted with this endorsement by Bomber, and is considering turning it into billboards around Auckland.

At the Dim-Post, the commenters are salivating with excitement over her blog posts. I don’t think they realise that every journalist in NZ has probably already read them all.

But at Kiwipolitico, Lew endorses Kate’s candidacy:

It is in this vein that I endorse the rumoured candidacy of Cathy Odgers, aka Cactus Kate, for the ACT party in the forthcoming general election. If true, Odgers will be doing Aotearoa a genuine service, showing us all what ACT really stands for. …

But this endorsement isn’t all about foreshadowed electoral schadenfreude. Odgers, for all that I disagree with nearly every aspect of her politics, is intelligent, articulate and possessed of a sharp and analytical wit. By reputation she is driven, hard-working and will not tolerate time-wasters or time-servers. If her boasts about the expat lifestyle and her drinking habits are to be believed, she will be taking a considerable cut in pay and increase in workload if elected to parliament, so we might reasonably assume her intentions are genuine. In other words, aside from her politics — which is admittedly a very big aside — she’s just the sort of person we need more of in Parliament. It may be that the rigours of public office mellow her, or it may be that her prickly public persona hides one more rounded and reasoned. They often do.

I can’t wait until Cactus is interviewed on Campbell Live.

If Cactus does become an MP, I have the perfect job for her. Make her Minister of Revenue, with her job being to close down all the loopholes. Ultimate poacher turned gamekeeper :-)

Plus the Hon Cactus Kate MP has a certain ring to it.

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89 Responses to “Cactus Kate MP”

  1. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    If Cactus does become an MP, I have the perfect job for her. Make her Minister of Revenue, with her job being to close down all the loopholes

    Reminds me of a guy I met in jail (me visiting, not me imprisoned) who had ripped off the ANZ Bank for a couple of hundred thousand thru a clever (at that time) electronic banking scam. Served 18 months, and ANZ had agreed to employ him at salary over $100K re their internet banking security upon his release.

    Dunno if it happened, but classic poacher come gamekeeper.

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  2. coventry (318 comments) says:

    The better the understanding of the enemy, the easier it is to take them down.

    If she’s high on Act’s list, they have my vote.

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  3. Sector 7g (241 comments) says:

    Have the left not realised yet how full of hate they are?

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  4. kingofthejuice (6,018 comments) says:

    Cactus Kate lists her musical preferences to be as follows;

    Kanye West Finley Quaye Jamie Cullum Eminem Outkast Frank Sinatra Michael Buble Guns & Roses Elton John.

    In the absence of any other useful measure, I find her musical taste a tad off-putting. Having read a couple of her blogs, she would appear to fit more into the SST populist mold, rather than the fiscal pragmatism that Brash seems to advocate. Stupid of me to think that ACT might stack their ranks with technocrats…. or am I missing something here?

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  5. DJP6-25 (1,355 comments) says:

    Q: What’s the opposite to a flake?

    A: Cactus Kate.

    cheers

    David Prosser

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  6. m@tt (630 comments) says:

    I see a massive dose of reality in her future.
    Actually… in the Act echo chamber… maybe not so much.

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  7. Roflcopter (452 comments) says:

    As long as she’s shaggable, that’s all that matters.

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  8. Tauhei Notts (1,678 comments) says:

    re Heather Roy;
    I have been reading her weekly e mails for several years.
    She has an obsession with the military. An obsession that I find disturbing.
    I had much more respect for the attitude to defence espoused so brilliantly by the N.Z. Party in 1984; Defence? Go for fisheries policing and that is about it. Just think of the billions that Costa Rica have saved over the past 50 years.
    I think that Heather Roy’s resignation will help strengthen Act.
    And Ms Odgers; she will bring an extremely intelligent young female with a delightful wit to The Party. Just read her comments about Alisdair Thompson and females’ equal pay; this woman is brilliant. She is even able to use that awful abbreviation “STFU” in a ladylike manner.

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  9. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Before everybody gets totally barred up about the prospect of another lawyer possibly entering Parliament.

    Prior to 2008 we had 9 years of labour working for themselves.

    National got there act together and elected John Key leader after getting rid of a clever man but one who was a not a politician and is still not.

    2008 National romped in, National, not Act, not anybody else but National lead by John Key. Since then as normal after a labour spendfest the cupboards were empty plus the worlds cupboard was a bit bare. Then we had ChCh. National have been too slow there but it was an unprecedented event .

    My point is there was never going to be a instant return to the money go round that we and the world had experienced no metter who was the government.

    National are trimming government departments, like most here wanted- wheres the problem with this?
    They are dealing with ChCh, slowly .I’ll admit- wheres the problem with that?

    So now we have the government we wanted in 2008 and now most here are still fucking moaning. ACT will never be a major player, never. CK will be as effective as Hone, there ,but in the end nobody will give a fuck after the novelty value wears off

    Where were the Cactus Kates in 2005? Why not stand then? because there was no way there was a seat , easy. Now the hard yards are done everybody steps up, sad but true. Fair weather freinds me thinks.

    Lastly, Make her Minister of Revenue, with her job being to close down all the loopholes. ….why?, we all pay too much tax now, isn’t paying less tax a ACT tenent?

    Our Parliament has 120 too many in it now, going to Wellington is not something that should be encouraged

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  10. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Tauhei

    Totally agree re defence. Over the past 10 years we have actively downgraded our ability to protect NZ’s resource base in favour of fluffier international missions. NZ needs a coast guard only, but still with real military capabilities.

    BTW, who is this Cactus Kate person?

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  11. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    Just what we need in Parliament – a champagne socialite with a prediliction for humiliating the serving classes perhaps she should be choosing to run with Labour.

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  12. YesWeDid (1,048 comments) says:

    Blogger turns MP (maybe), good on her.

    You next DPF?

    Cactus Kate, John Minto, Hone, Peters? The next parliament could be our best yet.

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  13. Falafulu Fisi (2,179 comments) says:

    A warning to those leftists parliamentarians from the Greens, Labour, Maori Party and even National, just watch out, here comes Katalina (Cathy). I reckon that Katalina will go and kick-ass in Parliament.

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  14. Nick R (505 comments) says:

    I reckon she’ll be at least as successful in Parliament as Pam Corkery and Deborah Coddington were.

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  15. wat dabney (3,755 comments) says:

    As I understand it a flat tax is one of ACT’s policies. One of the advantages of the flat tax is that the law is so vastly simplified that loopholes effectively disappear.
    It’s really only politicians who lose out; they thrive on the power of patronage that complex tax laws provide for.

    But hurrah. Thank christ Roy is leaving.

    Pauleastbay,

    I don’t see National as anything other than a continuation of the last Labour government.

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  16. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Wat

    How many government jobs have National got rid of? Thats just for starters.

    How many laws have they proposed to make marrying your sister legal ?( generalization here, your sister is probably lovely)

    How many National MP’s are under investigation for corruption and liable to be jailed.

    How many times has the Prime Minister been looked at for fraud .?

    Has the PM’s wife ever been sent home from an overseas trip.?

    I have to go and do some work now Wat, but there is a lot more

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  17. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    So Pauleastbay, you have now started to get the shits that your favorite pastime, the National Party will get the kick in the arse it severely needs.
    Your post @ 9.42 ouses fear within the justifications that you deem necessary to tell us about. 2.5 years too late and you lot still refuse to deal with issues that effect families and young people, jobs, and insist on more and more nanny state.
    You National socialists can’t even keep up to the mission that your Party was founded upon. Worse I’ll bet you couldn’t even quote them let alone understand them.
    In case you don’t know where to find your parties founding statement (and its no longer to be found on your Parties website for reason’s known only to the current incumbents), the whaleoil often has it in the side bar. Go take a look and learn it by heart.

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  18. Falafulu Fisi (2,179 comments) says:

    Paul said…
    #1) How many government jobs have National got rid of? Thats just for starters.

    They got rid of Govt jobs here, but increase spending there. What’s the effect? More borrowings. You think that getting rid of Govt jobs will lead to reduced borrowings? Are you blind or what? Or simply a National worshiper?

    #2) How many laws have they proposed to make marrying your sister legal ?

    They have proposed, passed and added more laws, since they took office. We don’t need to propose or pass more laws. We need to repeal a whole lot of them, according to John Stossel’s Rule :For Every Law Passed, Repeal Five Old Ones. You can watch Mr Stossel here on Bill O’Reilly, proposing his rule, he wished politicians should follow. I hope that Katalina and ACT will adopt the Stossel Rule as a platform to campaign on.

    #3) How many times has the Prime Minister been looked at for fraud

    Irrelevant and meaningless. What’s that got to do with the country’s indebtedness ?

    #4) Has the PM’s wife ever been sent home from an overseas trip.

    Again that’s irrelevant and meaningless. To the best of my knowledge that the Prime Minister of Greece’s wife hasn’t been sent home from an overseas trip and you can see what’s happening in that country? Dire straits. This is what people (voters) fail to understand. Smiling, waving, being electable, blah, blah, blah, cannot dictate to realities. John Key has got all those nice attributes, but realities are not based on those and I hope that the people of Greece have realized that now and change course urgently or perish.

    #5) but there is a lot more

    Yes, more nonsense.

    PS : I noted that I’ve reached 1000 number of comments here on Kiwiblog after I started in (late) 2005 or (early) 2006.

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  19. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    Oh and if you can’t find that statement email Whale I’m sure he will oblige you with a reply.

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  20. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay, well this morning rantings are showing some mischief in the ranks (see DPF’s post on Key and Kelly) and we are not forgetting Dopey Billies double dipping from Dipton, and various other scams that were either terminated publicly or otherwise.
    As always most things are never what they seem.

    National have gone from being a Party of Freedom and Personal rights to being one controlled by the Catholics to one now controlled by the Maori elite.
    They suck.

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  21. wat dabney (3,755 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay,

    I’m not saying the current government has the corruption and sleazebaggery of the old Labour/Green one (although that’s primarily because they haven’t been in office long enough.) But when it comes to policy they are indistinguishable from the old lot. What we’ve ended-up with is a Labour government with a slightly prettier prime-minister.

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  22. Murray (8,844 comments) says:

    Roy should have gone when she was busted trying to shit on her leader out of self interest.

    The price of failure and disloyalty. Of course now that she will be out of parliament she can get off her ass iand turn up for her army training if she plans on wearing her NZDSM on ANZAC Days thanks.

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  23. Pete George (23,426 comments) says:

    ff: I noted that I’ve reached 1000 number of comments here on Kiwiblog after I started in (late) 2005 or (early) 2006.

    Good on you, kinda cool to reach those round number milestones.

    I’ll shout you a ticket to the first game at the Dunedin stadium if you like. North Otago versus West Coast – a good grass roots rugby game.

    I appreciated your Auckland offer but didn’t want to break my number until I was ready – BTW, thanks for pointing itm out, I nearly missed it happening.

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  24. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    Yep Roy should have gone, but, and here’s the principle coming into disrepute. Parliamentary privileges and Super don’t start till you’ve done your nine years !
    Last year was 8

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  25. dime (9,799 comments) says:

    “I understand that Cactus is delighted with this endorsement by Bomber, and is considering turning it into billboards around Auckland.”

    yea, thats half the problem. shes across as though everything a joke. smug, elitist. just what we need for ACT!

    good luck trying to attract national voters with that sort of candidate.

    i can imagine the quotes the media have on file. just dumb shit like bragging about spending $800 on lunch, ive seen her make fun of poor people etc.

    thats all fine if you’re an obnoxious blogger or anonymous commentator on a blog, like the hooker loving dime. but for act?? seriously??

    i know shes a smart lady and when she writes properly i agree with a lot of her political leanings. but i wont be voting for act.

    oh yeah, cruising in from HK isnt a good look either.

    i had high hopes when the don took over. i really thought they could hit the 10%. not i think they will be lucky to survive.

    best case scenario now – when act die, national can still govern alone and we have a few years to launch another right wing party. one founded along similar lines to act. except this time they hopefully wont choose complete morons and criminals to be MP’s (donna etc).

    i know there have been some good act mps. but dam there has been some shite.

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  26. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Fala

    Firstly congratulations.

    Now please outline ACTS policies for the new Parliament in 2011, where ACT may have a few seats.

    V2

    Without the National party ACT will never have a seat at the table, its that basic. Now unless you are able to start a major political party that is capable of governing alone Act are for ever to be a Siamese twin, not joined at the hip but a extra little toe.

    The passion of you ACT supporters is admirable but the lack of humour and ideas is very similar to the lefties that stick their heads up here. Lots of talk but no idea.

    V2

    The super thing changed years ago, they get that whenever now they don’t have to wait 3 terms like yester year

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  27. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay: That’s the mistake you lefties always make. you have to stick labels on people. I am not and have never been an ACT person. Just consider at least most of their policies have been what we should be doing.
    What you and your lot have practiced along side the Labour Party are socialist control of everything to the detriment of all Kiwi’s.

    Its a pity some of you Nanny Care Nats. didn’t wake up and realize that you are socialists just as bad as the rest except that you do things in an underhand way, unlike Labour who are at least up front about it.

    There is no need for you to run my nor anyone else’s life. There is no need for you and your tax collectors to steal from my hard earned living but you do and then tell me its good for me, leaving me poor.
    There is no need for you to interfere in my commercial relationships with my staff,my potential staff, my tenants and others, but you do.
    There is no need for you to impose business costs upon our businesses to satisfy a bureaucracy with money and jobs at the expense of our customers, but you do.
    There is no need for you to pass more Laws making us more and more captured to the bureaucracy ,but you do.
    There is no need for you to tell me where or how or whom to support with my charity. but you do by compelling me to pay taxes for you and your kind to disperse to people and charities and organization that I will never support. Worse when you do you destroy the relationship that those charities and I have with the recipients of that charity.
    There is no need for you to have in place organizations the interfere in our family lives. That’s our choice, but you still have them.
    There is no need for hundreds of quangos sucking at the teat called the taxpayer but you foster them like flea’s on a dogs back and they are never disposed of. Jobs, no sorry, incomes for life for retarded ex politico’s and their mates.
    There is no need for endless rules and regulations about this that and every other thing. Many of them rapidly out dated but still there for some nosy busy body of some sort to throw at you when it suits.
    There is no need for three layers of govt. in this tiny country. Government that is incestuous in it’s relationships and shifts money from one to another via the courtroom. Think RMA, local Councills, Distrct wide environmental outfits like EBOP.

    So instead of sticking labels on people, how about reducing the cost of living in NZ and increasing the opportunities for Kiwi’s.
    How about reducing the constant interference in everyones lives and allowing people to be people.

    Why is it that that a lot of entrepreneurs start something here and then sell it off oversea’s? Its just to hard here that’s why.

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  28. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    I wonder if Pauleastbay is Adolf’s doppelgänger?
    The slobbering love affair with Labour lite and its anemic policies of appeasement appears to be the same.

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  29. Paulus (2,594 comments) says:

    Cactus – stay out of Parliament. Idea great, practical no

    You have greater POWER through your blog than you would have in Parliament.

    Frustration would make you choke, and cramp your style.

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  30. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    V2

    I fully agree with just about all of your above comment. But how? please

    What I was alluding to earlier is How is another lawyer elected under the ACT banner going to make one iota of difference.

    Next – What party has the best chance of supplying you with some of what you want to happen? You won’t get it all but some.

    My answer would be the National Party, they have the power, no one else.

    And I would be interested to know what country in the western world would fit your wish list as laid out above.

    Inventions etc are sold overseas because we do not have the population to develope these, we do not have a tradition of philantrophy, R and D money generally has to come from the government in some shape or form and patents are a world wide thing and we do not have the cash to patent on a world level.

    I am presuming therefore that you will not be voting this coming November

    Manalo, slobbering is a bit harsh, I’m untidy but not a drooler.

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  31. Falafulu Fisi (2,179 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay said…
    And I would be interested to know what country in the western world would fit your wish list as laid out above.

    Paul, if you do follow John Stossel on his program on Fox News, he had highlighted how countries such as the US (I guess that it is true for most Western Democracies) started with a law book of about one centimeter thick (he specifically referred to the US constitution) from 200 years ago, to tons of thick law books today that a person could stack them on top of one another, it could reach the moon. The rapid growth of the US economy when it was still a young country was attributed to less laws not more laws as of today. Entrepreneurs were able to do things faster without requiring/asking permissions from useless bureaucrats who producing nothing. They built things quickly as rail networks, factories , businesses, etc,… NZ was like this when it was a young country. Today, we citizens bloody can’t do a thing without having to go thru all these govt legislated bullsh*ts. Govt debts was almost non-existence back then. Things were run efficiently. If you want to see what I mean, then read the views of Don Brash in the following story. I bet that you will almost cry at the story of citizens who are trying to get ahead, but the big fat govt is hindering their efforts.

    RMA impeding economic growth: Brash

    That’s what the National Party stood for when it was first formed, highlighted by VK2 and Wat above. The government’s tentacles are all over the place in people’s lives. This is the decline of Western democracies because those govts keep making laws after laws as if the world is going to end if 1 King’s College stupid student died of alcohol over-consumption. The message is simple really. Get the govt out of people’s lives and let them be responsible for their own. If someone fuckups, that’s his/her problems and not mine and neither it is yours.

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  32. Pete George (23,426 comments) says:

    Falafulu Fisi – something like this as a current book of laws? The Big Book.

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  33. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    Well of course they currently have the power but they have slobbered all over the Maori and Greens and the poor as usual, and never mind the rest of us.
    There’s no R & D money cause they interfere in the tax system and with grants rather than encouraging everyone to spend on it via a normal business expense which it rightly is. They pick winners ala Jamberton style instead of encouraging everyone to be a winner. They rob companies of their money so steal away the incentive to bother.
    They have decreased the depreciation on new plant when Germany has huge incentive for new plant with depreciation of 100% first year. that’s why they lead the world again. Companies need their money, not just to give a miserable return to shareholders but to invest constantly in their future. That’s why we can’t build trains here. No investment in cutting edge plant.
    Now motor vehicles are not cutting edge plant so you can reduce the depreciation on them. But that won’t make the Nat voters in Queen St. happy will it?
    I have listened to National Party clowns forever telling me to get inside and change the system. What a fucking joke. As are most of them. They are status quo types all round unlike Labour who are the only people who have ever made changes to anything in NZ. National just tweek the changes.
    And this is where the criticism of the duopoly of National and Labour is so valid. Mediocrity is the byword.

    One only has to look at the various recommendations from various reports prepared for this Govt. Brashes was rejected out of hand by Key before it was even in the publics hands. Most of the others modified to a greater or lessor extent, just to retain power or satisfy some vocal minority. They didn’t even have the balls that were needed to get the mining rules sorted. nor the RMA but they did manage to pick on beneficiaries who are the result of their mismanagement in the first instance.

    Policy is made on the day and there is not clear statement of where we are heading.

    And Hong Kong goes along way towards some of that wish list.
    But, We spend our entire time trying to lead the world in Green house Crap and Human rights and uncleTom Cobbly and everything else but we can’t even put our own house in order.
    Lets just do the right thing here. Get rid of Govt. and its destructive force and empower everyone to succeed.

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  34. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Falafulu

    It’s a little bit of wishful thinking to equate the USA’s growth with less laws. On that thesis, US economic growth could be expected to have shown a steady decline since 1783. Other than that, the less regulation the better. The problems come when there are disagreements about what needs regulation – hence politics.

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  35. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    MM. These things grow little by little from a simple principle to a monster of control.
    Now take speed limits for instance. We once had three rules. Open road which if I remember right was 50 mph, round town at 30mph and discretionary which allowed the motorist to decide between 30 and 50 based on the road conditions.

    What have we now.
    We have open road at 100 and soon to be not a single one more,( and watch the pricks make it 90 next year if they get back in).
    We have 50 kph in designated area’s, even when we have areas of similar configuration that have different speeds.
    We have 60 kph in some places.
    Then we have 40 sometimes at times during the week when the motorist, who pays for the road ,is inconvenienced by the hordes gorging out of schools and their parents whose luvlies don’t have legs any more. Mostly from State schools where the state refuses to provide adequate provision for the traffic and parking needs of it customers.
    And now this week we have 30 kph in downtown the Mount. No consultation with anyone other than the local shopkeepers representative, no prior publicity but its now in law.
    Now on a daily basis I go back and forth through all these zones. Its a pain in the arse and its so easy to not remember and pow some bloody Nazi from the Socialist movement pings you. Enough pings and there goes your license. (which is another imposed cost in itself for what reason?)
    Using Alisdair Thompsons analogy these things are like period pains. They reduce productivity. They don’t fix the problem they compound it.
    That’s what all these creeping socialist laws do.

    Mt Maunganui Main Rd was 100kph, then 80 and Now 50. Was 4 lane now two. Has high truck use going to and from the Port.
    Off the main road is Mt. Maunganui High School.
    Kids parked across the road because there was no parking provided and used to be dropped off on that side by parents and left to cross the four lanes of the designated motorway..
    The motorist is now slowed to a crawl on that designated motorway because of an unfortunate accident when a young lady stepped out from behind her car in to the path of a logging tuck and trailer. All it takes is one accident for nanny state to terrorize everyone else.

    The solution wasn’t to change the school access but to reduce the truckies productivity forever.
    The solution should have been to change the school access and parking to a back street off the designated motorway.

    I doubt this is the only example of the state terrorizing the people who pay for the roads with their imposing of restrictions upon the payer.
    Cycleways of course are another form of tax subsidy to those on bikes.

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  36. wat dabney (3,755 comments) says:

    mikenmild,

    On that thesis, US economic growth could be expected to have shown a steady decline since 1783.

    Yes, if you assume there is no difference between the agricultural economy of 1783 and today’s economic and technological dynamism.

    So, no.

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  37. hj (6,813 comments) says:

    Hillary Calvert put her foot in it on Back Bencher’s she said “I’m not worried about silly little chickens”. Cactus Kate will get caught out the same way, I think. Those who believe that they can have as much as they want while everyone wins don’t believe in limits to growth and hence are forced to deny climate change etc.

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  38. wat dabney (3,755 comments) says:

    hj,

    I have to ask, are you aware of the Dave Spart character in Private Eye magazine?

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  39. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    Yeh a climate change monkey. Keep up, that’s so yesterday. Mind you the Govt. including Smith and key aren’t up with the play so I guess not much hope for their to blind to see followers.

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  40. nasska (11,112 comments) says:

    Most of us like Cactus Kate because of her irreverent attitude & her love of getting up the noses of those who know better than us how our lives should be run.

    These selfsame qualities make her the most dangerous species on the planet to the socialists & they will stop at nothing to destroy her lest others cast off their shackles & follow her. Anyone who thinks that Don Brash was pilloried will rethink their use of the word after the hounds of the left are let loose on Cathy.

    Every word she has uttered since babyhood, every indiscretion, any small thing that sets her aside from the lowest common denominator will be dredged up & used to smear her. If such dirt doesn’t exist it will be created. If she makes a hundred word statement, if five of those words taken out of context in any order could be construed as criticism of the poor then that is the way they will be quoted.

    From the day she steps off the plane from Hongkong to hit the campaign trail she will be targeted 24/365. After she is crucified someone, maybe even a commentator on this blog, will bemoan the absence of youth, talent & private experience in Parliament.

    With the media we sanction we condemn ourselves to blandness & mediocrity.

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  41. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    well most of her life seems to be an open book now and she is open about what she does. Not much to attack but plenty to make slurs about. That’s todays media and they wonder why no one watches.
    The media want stuffing really. Look at 3 news or what pro ports to be news. Disgusting bullying journalism. (look up the definition of bully)
    There at the Tax payers largess. No money to pay their bills when due. Time they were cast adrift and allowed to fail.
    TVNZ. there by the largess of the taxpayer. Ditto, let them go.
    Maori TV 50 Mill last year at the largess of the tax payer. Let them fail.

    We will all be better off.

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  42. James (1,338 comments) says:

    Wow Dime….did CK spurn your request for a date or something?

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  43. nasska (11,112 comments) says:

    V2

    All true but it will be the intensity of the attacks using slurs & whatever can be invented that will do the damage. I can see at least one leading TV story per week concentrating on something like “extreme right wing blogger & tax lawyer turned MP says poor can eat grass”. It won’t matter whether it is made up garbage….the left will do a Mallard & figure that sooner or later some shit will stick. The press will follow suit.

    It will be relentless.

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  44. James (1,338 comments) says:

    I’d love to see a journo ask CK something in the hope of getting something juicy to use and instead CK just looks at him/her with a dismissive look akin to seeing poo on her shoe and say”Oh sorry…am I supposed to care what you or anyone else thinks?”…

    Burn the bastards off and deflate them by ignoring their existence.

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  45. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    Depends who pays for airtime!
    Labour has only Govt. money. The Nats won’t bother anyone and Act have the dosh to spend. He who has the gold rules.

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  46. jaba (2,118 comments) says:

    if she gets a high list spot, she will get my vote .. I would have loved to see her debate issues with Bradford, Minto and Harawira before setting her sights on the Greens. One she has destroyed them, it will be Labours turn. And Winny of course if there are enough deadbeats left (pun) to vote for him since the left are now fighting for naff all voters.
    The vile attacks on her have already started, the wanker Bomber as an example, so bring it on

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  47. Rex Widerstrom (5,345 comments) says:

    Viking2 notes:

    These things grow little by little from a simple principle to a monster of control.
    Now take speed limits for instance. We once had three rules… What have we now…

    Evidence of three things.

    1. No politician is content to accept that those who came before might actually have got it right. Just like Simon Power hurling centuries of legal precedent out the cot because he believes a suburban conveyancer from Palmerston North knows better than hundreds of Law Lords, Lords Chancellors, Law Commissions and judges at all levels in the UK and NZ. I remember a politician (Muldoon, IIRC) being asked what he hoped he’d achieved and saying, with surprising humility, “to have left NZ no worse than I found it”.

    Now every one-term-wonder thinks s/he was born to rule and the rest of NZ is in desperate need of remaking in the image of their own private utopia. And since most of them yearned to become MPs based on their delusions of superiority to the rest of us, that utopia inevitably involves restricting our ability to make decisions as to what’s best for ourselves, whether it’s how fast we drive or how we spend our taxes.

    2. A large slice of the populace want to be told what to do. When I first got to Australia and found similar insane speed limits (it’s 40km/h through the state capital streets all day every day now!) I’d proudly scoff that where I come from, such draconian meddling wouldn’t stand – people would just break an unjust law in such numbers it would become unenforceable.

    A decade later, I’m not sure I could make that boast. I certainly can’t attribute it entirely to a decade of aunty Helen, but that’s a part of it. FGS wake up NZ and get a bit of civil disobedience back into the national character! And start mocking those who write to the newspapers (and comment on Kiwiblog ;-) ) puffing on about “respect for the law” when the law is demonstrably an ass.

    3. A media who – while they like to think they’re speaking truth to power – are complicit in the continuation of unnecessary rules and regulations through their reportage. I’m sure there are examples in NZ; a recent one I observed was 2 stories in the same edition of the state newspaper. Story 1 said how new “no tolerance” speed enforcement had resulted in almost quarter of a million speeding fines for less than 10km/h over the limit. Story 2 talked of millions of dollars of unpaid fines and claimed “in WA, you can do the crime and not pay the fine” and talked of “thugs” not paying… despite the fact that the vast bulk of unpaid fines are for minor speeding offences, plus parking tickets (they go to “fines enforcement” here).

    There’s no chance of changing 2 & 3, so the only chance we have of reversing this trend is to cut off it’s head, @ 1.

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  48. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    All power to Cactus Kate and her irreverent style.

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  49. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    ACT must be really desperate if they want this woman as a candidate.

    I follow politics reasonably closely and I’d never heard of her. Who is she really. It’s only the bloggeratti that might be impressed.

    Did she really say that the poor should be paid not to breed?

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  50. kingofthejuice (6,018 comments) says:

    Yup, regulation grows and evolves in order to stop the rednecks in their longships from sailing down the coast, raping and pillaging with impunity. I suspect the libertarians would be the first to go crying for Nanny if the well ordered society they take for granted were ever to return to anarchy.

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  51. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    No, king: government bad, laws bad, regulations even more bad. Vikings maximised personal freedom and utility by bringing free-market disciplines to over-governed monastic communities.

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  52. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    Did she really say that the poor should be paid not to breed?

    An outstanding idea, indeed.

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  53. wat dabney (3,755 comments) says:

    kingofthejuicem

    You have a childishly naive view of regulation. You have obviously never heard of regulatory capture or public choice theory, let alone simple political corruption.

    You know all that highly complex legislation that comes out of Washington? Do you really think the senators write that themselves? Most of them haven’t even read it.

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  54. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    Ha well same for the local politico’s. Wasn’t long ago that Williamson made the comment on a piece of legislation that was wrong. He made comment that he voted on it without reading it nor understanding it.

    MM Where have you been. In a closet or something. You follow politics and don’t know Cactus. Well you better get learning.
    A good Viking Lady.

    Vikings maximised personal freedom and utility by bringing free-market disciplines to over-governed monastic communities.

    That they did and trashed the Catholics in the process to allow the French to develop government that became the basis of the Westminster Parliament.
    Time we reinforced that freedom again.

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  55. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    http://asianinvasion2006.blogspot.com/

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  56. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    That’s why we can’t build trains here.

    V2

    Just a quick point on the trains. We can do the job here but its too expensive. They went off shore because of this, no body in the States would re-tool for our gauge because the job was too small. The Chinese have done it by re-tooling one part of one factory for NZ.

    I’m all for no government, but, as we have one, whats it to be?

    You mention above that ACT has the “dosh”.. I wonder how much the supporters will be willing to spread around, when you look at the talent or lack thereof… Don, Banks and a lawyer who writes a blog

    Rex is correct above, Simon Power needs more than a kick in the arse.. Nick Smith!!!! but would not labours scheme be worse?

    The rapid growth of the US economy when it was still a young country was attributed to less laws not more laws as of today.

    It was also attributal to the “Trusts” Standard Oil – Rockefeller. Railways – Jay Gould, remember these guys did not pay tax.

    Thats why Theodore Rosevelt went “Trust Busting”- because the US was ceasing to be a country and more a boardroom for a dozen businessmen. How well are you running your country when J P Morgan has to bail the government out?

    Most people don’t want “revolution NOW” they want a quite life and pay their bills. Admittidly we have got really soft as a country but we have been spoon fed and brought up to believe ( wrongly)that the government will take care of us.

    Presently we have an a government ,its the only viable option and again whats another lawyer going to do?

    Lastly. is it the Tauranga water ,you are starting to sound a bit like Russell.

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  57. dime (9,799 comments) says:

    “I’d love to see a journo ask CK something in the hope of getting something juicy to use and instead CK just looks at him/her with a dismissive look akin to seeing poo on her shoe and say”Oh sorry…am I supposed to care what you or anyone else thinks?”…”

    yea that will be awesome for the first 2 minutes. ffs.

    as for whether she once knocked me back? wtf? i might ask you the same question next time you bag some bloke. i dont care that shes female, i have no idea what she looks like. she could be smoking hot for all i know. i just care about the type of person id like to see representing my view and its not her.

    i dont doubt her intentions are in the right place, but if she wanted a political career, i think she should have conducted herself differently. unless she was on the left. you can do anything and be on the left as you will be protected.

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  58. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    I see the KB poll on would you vote for ACT is cactus was in the mix produced:
    * Hell Yes (50%, 272 Votes)
    * No (34%, 189 Votes)
    * Yes (16%, 88 Votes)
    There would possibly be a similar result to: Would you vote for ACT if [insert name of your choice] was no one on their party list?

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  59. kingofthejuice (6,018 comments) says:

    @wat dabney (556) Says:
    June 26th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
    @mikenmild (588) Says:
    June 26th, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    I’m happily naive when it comes to regulatory detail and analysis. All I know is that law is a necessary evil and that it is a work in progress. Can you tell me how to write law that will remain forever relevant to an everchanging and increasingly diverse and complex society? It has to be fiddled with….or should we just allow, say, the banks to continue on the eternal cycle of boom and bust unhindered?

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  60. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Hey, king, wish I could…

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  61. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    KOJ: Well they will anyway as they don’t make the boom nor the bust. Polooies do that.

    Dime, you are a bit tetchy over this Miss. Whats the problem here???

    Paul, plenty of slimy socialists in the water round here. Like the current Govt. that you so blindly support they exist to waste the money of others. Our rates just got a 10.4% hike for this year and probably the next few. More debt in the name of social good bullshit just like our Govt. More debt cause its all they can think of.
    Just don’t know any other way, so look out Greece here we come.
    Problem is that it won’t hurt you people with money it will hit the businesses and the poor so that you soon won’t have any money either.
    Unforutnatley we have lost three years where changes could have been well entrenched and Kiwi’s going places. That’s what you never stop to think about.

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  62. dime (9,799 comments) says:

    viking – she comes across as an elitist. i think she damages what is left of the brand and has zero appeal out side of people already voting act.

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  63. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Unforutnatley we have lost three years where changes could have been well entrenched and Kiwi’s going places. That’s what you never stop to think about.

    V2
    Economically it would have been very hard this term, due to the world situation then in this last year Chch, now as much as I dislike the place it is serious down there and is going to suck up funds that could have been used elsewhere.

    Now this is where NZ is rooted, just knock the fucking Churches down , knock the houses down. All this bullshit about re-building the church stone by stone, fuck off, build another. A year to knock down a very ordinary hotel, crap, any sort of decent engineer and explosive team can have it down in a week and bare land in a fortnight. the problem is everybody wants there 5 cents worth and politicians listen to everybody, just do it, if its a wrong decision they are unemployed next election

    We certainly didn’t need to lob 4 mill into New Plymouth for a Len Lye Museum, its been waiting 25 years now so a few more wouldn’t hurt.

    Rates are evil, in 14 years time when I qualify for a pension and if that is all my wife and I have, we will not be able to afford to live in our home, thats how much my rates are now, we were lucky enough to score one of the Regional Council staff members as our new council CEO and all she can do is spend money, other peoples ( thats when shes not off work with period pains)

    And lastly. I am still wondering why some are pole vcaulting around the room in anticipation that AFL may be elected to parliament. We are all experts in the blogisphere (sic) but its a bit different in real life

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  64. IHStewart (388 comments) says:

    Being on the ” left ” I am surprised at how often I agree with Cactus. If Act have the balls to give her a position of 3 on the list and Cactus commits to rolling Don and ditching him and John then I will do something I have never done before, give the right and specifically ACT my party vote.

    Should she decide to stand in the Roskill electorate I will go further and she can count on my electorate vote and I will even deliver bloody pamphlets for her, hell I have to walk the dog.

    Labour do you understand how pissed off with you I am.

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  65. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Very slow of me, New Plymouth is where young Andrew the Smiley One is standing I believe,- no bugger it, the arts and crafts type wont vote National anyway.

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  66. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    cACTus – blogging her way to a better NZ

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  67. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Paul

    Money well spent – a Len Lye museum is just about enough to tempt me to make a trip to New Plymouth.

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  68. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    Well spend your own money and make the 4 million donation in our place. thanks.

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  69. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    IHStewart (171) Says:
    June 26th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    Being on the ” left ” I am surprised at how often I agree with Cactus.

    I don’t think for a second that you should be surprised. Act are branded as far right by The Key’s of politics but are in fact not. Any analysis will show that.
    Act’s policies have always been about using the power of the state to increase the power of the individual. An anathema to socialists and not the entire freedoms that would rule under the far right who would dismantle everything in a free for all.

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  70. Steve (4,540 comments) says:

    Stop hiding Trev, Cactus is hunting you. Your balls are toast tough guy

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  71. Falafulu Fisi (2,179 comments) says:

    Kingofjuice said…
    Can you tell me how to write law that will remain forever relevant to an ever-changing and increasingly diverse and complex society?

    Mr King, the explanation is simple really. Read this from Not PC blog about rights. After that, then read the following on complex system theory (in economics). The less government interference in the economic system the better. WHY? The dynamics of self-organisation system works best, when there is less restriction (ie, minimal central control from Government).

    If you want to dig deeper about complex system, then start with the following.

    From Simplistic to Complex Systems in Economics

    If you still doubt what I’m saying here, then if you want more, then I’m keen to cite you various econo-physics literature, so you can read further about their findings of (complex) systems dynamics that work best when minimal restriction is applied to the system (be it social system as economics or physical system as galaxies). Complex systems all behave the same (ie, their dynamics).

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  72. Falafulu Fisi (2,179 comments) says:

    Viking said…
    Just don’t know any other way, so look out Greece here we come.

    I agree there V2. I just can’t see John Key’s logic here of not addressing the debt problem. This is a major concern to Don Brash as he mentioned the debt problem in his interview with Lindsay Perigo some weeks ago.

    May be (I say may be) John Key has a strategy that we don’t know about. May be he is toying with game theory as a way to address it. I wouldn’t be surprised if John Key and his advisers had already read the following and perhaps taking it seriously (but not admitting) as a possible solution.

    A model of coopetitive games and the Greek crisis

    Whatever John Key’s strategy of how to deal with debt problem, it doesn’t appear that whatever he’s adopting, doesn’t look good long term. I believe that this is an issue (a very important one) that Don Brash is going to address and campaign on in the coming election.

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  73. Mark (1,471 comments) says:

    Amusing bloggers do not necessarily make credible political candidates. On the plus side she will lower the average age of the act lineup but at a time when act needs to be generating some credible alternatives to National she seems a bit of a charicature rather than filling a credible spokesperson role.

    Act has made little progress under brash but is is early days. Hopefully we will see some viable policy direction especially on economic management emerge that makes the voting public sit up and take notice.

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  74. James (1,338 comments) says:

    I don’t want someone in there who wants a “political career”…thats been the damn problem.I want someone who goes in,tears the monstrosity down,leaves a small but strong night-watchman state in its place and then resigns and go’s back to having a life…that’s what I want.The problem we face in sorting out NZ IS politics..and politics is the harnessing of state force for ones own ends.

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  75. Jman (84 comments) says:

    I’ve been reading Cactus Kate’s blog for years so I reckon I have a pretty good idea of what she thinks.

    She has a serious intellect which 90% of the current MP’s couldn’t hold a candle to. As long as she is free in parliament to speak her mind as freely as she does on her blog, then I expect most opposition MP’s would be too scared to tangle with her.

    She is certainly capable of being offensive and doesn’t care much if she does offend you, so she will be a very polarizing figure. I know her reputation is of disliking poor people but I think her heart is in the right place. I think the people she really dislikes are those who are given positions of power or status above their abilities or competence. We have too many such people in positions of power in NZ right now who will be quivering in their boots at the prospect of CK in parliament.

    We simply haven’t seen the likes of her yet – a genuinely strong, successful, intelligent, right-thinking woman with a socially liberal attitude.

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  76. RRM (9,770 comments) says:

    The induction to their ranks of an obnoxious, spoilt little rich girl like CK is just what is needed to get me to start voting ACT.

    :-P Quick, pass another Tui…

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  77. georgebolwing (758 comments) says:

    I have never met Cactus Kate, but have like many been amused by her blog.

    My prediction is that if she enters Parliament she will fail miserably as a MP and will leave, unregarded and unremembered, within a term or two.

    Why?

    First, because she obviously holds the institution of which she seeks to be a member in low regard. Thus, it will hold her in equally low regard.

    In part, the rules of procedure in the House and the way in which political parties operate within the context of Parliament will not allow her to give free expression to her views. She will be a first term member, expected to sit in a back row, ask the odd patsy question (if her party holds ministerial positions), attend select committees and vote the party line and in the House where it really counts, the Whips will do the voting for her.

    But she will also learn, quickly and painfully, that there are many, many people employed in the parliamentary complex, and not just PM and Parliamentary Service employees, but journalists and officials, who take the status quo seriously and will not let a newly elected member forget that the status quo is important and here to stay. Little things will happen to Kate that make her life less comfortable: requests for services might go to the bottom of the queue or be mysteriously misplaced. Ministers (via their loyal staff) might find it difficult to find a slot in their diaries to see Ms Odgers. All those good ideas she has to make the world a better place will be sent to the department for review and fleshing out by officials.

    Secondly, to succeed in politics who have to be able to work with people whom you would normally run a mile to avoid. People you regard as fuckwits who should be euthanized as a service to humanity will become your fraternal colleagues. You will praise publicly and privately people you regard as idiots. You will willingly, happily and enthusiastically support ideas that you just know are wrong, because the person whose idea it is might one day be called upon to support an idea of yours.

    Look at the long list of “leaders of the future” who have come to Parliament and have never quite made it: Jim Anderton, Lianne Dalziel, Pam Corkery, John Tamihere, Laila Harré. Of these, only Anderton reached high office, and only by way of a long trail of broken relationships and failed parties.

    Cactus Kate will undoubtedly provide theatre. She might even spark the odd debate on important issues. But will she be a success? Sadly, no.

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  78. Falafulu Fisi (2,179 comments) says:

    Pete George said…
    I’ll shout you a ticket to the first game at the Dunedin stadium if you like. North Otago versus West Coast – a good grass roots rugby game.

    PG thanks for the ticket offer. I intend to visit a relative in Dunedin (which I haven’t done in 6 years) during the Spring, and hopefully the NPC and local club rugby are still on. I will takeup your offer if the NPC/club-rugby is still on when I’m down there. I’ll contact you through your website since you now have one.

    Cheers.

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  79. first time caller (384 comments) says:

    georgebolwing- Spot on! I agree completely. As a regular reader of her blog, I enjoy it. She is undoubtably clever, witty and extraordinarily talented…Her ability to make the huge transition to Parliament I question.
    I appreciate she holds true to ACT beliefs but her ability to change anything when she’ll be an irrelevant backbencher for a minor fringe party is doubtful.
    ACT is on the way to oblivion. Kate would have done better to stand for National and risen through the ranks there so she could get to the top and make some real changes. What’s the best she can hope for here? Min Local Govt????

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  80. Elaycee (4,351 comments) says:

    georgebolwing says: “Look at the long list of “leaders of the future” who have come to Parliament and have never quite made it: Jim Anderton, Lianne Dalziel, Pam Corkery, John Tamihere, Laila Harré. Of these, only Anderton reached high office, and only by way of a long trail of broken relationships and failed parties.”

    Ha ha ha – very good.

    :)

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  81. Pete George (23,426 comments) says:

    georgebolwing – I agree with most of what you say. Even starting from the very outside, from grass roots it’s very difficult to breach fortress. They (not just the politicians but all those involved) resist anyone trying to tell them democracy should be done different.

    But it doesn’t mean people like Kate shouldn’t try. If she gets in she may be able to change a little, and add a different dimension, and difernt skills and ideas. She may also find a way of changing more than a little.

    If she doesn’t try nothing will change. And everyone says they want change. It won’t happen by magic.

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  82. Pete George (23,426 comments) says:

    I’m trying a different route. Should I change history and get in I won’t try to change parliament- but I intend to change a lot at electorate level whether I get in or not. I’ve already started to initiate change. Some things will turn out not to work, some things are already showing signs of working.

    l’ve designed my approach so that I’ll win and my electorate will win, to some degree, whether I win the seat or not.

    And if I win big it could change how things are done on a wider scale. By example.

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  83. peteremcc (342 comments) says:

    georgebolwing – You miss one tiny detail, she’s standing for ACT, not any other party.

    We don’t just expect first term-ers to sit in a back row, ask the odd patsy question and vote the party line.

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  84. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Standing for ACT, if successful she will have less influence than MPs from the major parties.

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  85. James (1,338 comments) says:

    No MP should “like” poor people…they should hate them enough to see them eliminated and richer people take their place. Liking the poor and keeping them that way is Labours means to its political ends after all…

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  86. Cactus Kate (550 comments) says:

    Thanks everyone, read all the comments and not once did my blood pressure rise or even flinch into responding. Guess that’s first test passed. I have not deleted any of my past blog material, go for it. Given pretty much the entire left of the blogging community is illiterate and only read as widely as close family, not concerned at all. Especially as if I do respond it will be based on the 2 for 1 scale of escalation.

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  87. Elaycee (4,351 comments) says:

    @Cactus Kate

    Good luck. Whilst many MPs (across the political spectrum) arrive in Parliament with high hopes and a strong desire to ‘make a difference’ many end up leaving rather disillusioned by the experience.

    I sincerely hope that you’ll be an exception.

    Cheers, Elaycee.

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  88. Shazzadude (526 comments) says:

    Viking2: “Pauleastbay: That’s the mistake you lefties always make. you have to stick labels on people.”

    That there is absolute gold.

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  89. Mark (1,471 comments) says:

    There is a danger with the ACT party that they become a fringe pack of lunatics of the right much as mana is a fringe pack of lunatics of the left

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