ACT’s economic policies

August 29th, 2011 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Don Brash gave a speech last week outlining ACT’s economic policies. People may be interested in a summary of them:

  • would promptly re-introduce youth minimum wages – or better still, abolish minimum wages entirely for those under 20.
  • further reform of employment law so it is less heavily stacked against employers
  • scrap the Emissions Trading Scheme
  • radical reform of the RMA
  • seek to reduce government spending to below 30% of GDP, the level it was at at the end of Labour’s second term in office in 2005
  • Longer term, as the grew, we would want to get the government share of the to a lower level, perhaps 25%, as it was for much of our history up to the mid-seventies
  • harmonise the top personal, company and trust tax rates at 21%; or
  • radically reduce the company tax rate, to perhaps 10 or 15%, with the top personal and trust tax rates remaining at, say, 28%
  • age of entitlement for NZ super has to rise gradually over the next 10 years or so
  • favours the sale of government-owned businesses
  • see legislation passed which would constrain the future growth of government spending
  • see legislation passed which would make it harder for governments to pass laws and regulations which would impinge on the rights of citizens
  • see the Bill of Rights amended to protect the property rights of citizens

While I don’t agree with every single item, there’s a lot I do agree with, and they would definitely help push New Zealand faster in the right direction.

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72 Responses to “ACT’s economic policies”

  1. Owen McShane (1,226 comments) says:

    Another challenge will be what to do about the Auckland Council which has suddenly turned itself into the North Korea of the South Pacific.
    The so called Spatial Plan is now a plan for everything – going way beyond the constraints of part 6 of the Auckland Council Act.

    In my humble opinion it is unlawful and will collapse at the first challenge.

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  2. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    Given present polling, this is a fairly irrelevant list of policies, isn’t it? Perhaps for their 2 or 3 votes National will give them another taskforce to look at one or two of these things.

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  3. Falafulu Fisi (2,179 comments) says:

    Don Brash may be interested in the following video.

    DOWN TO THE DOCTOR’S: “Welcome to the party!”

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  4. ben (2,372 comments) says:

    I’ll vote for that. Agree with every one of those items. Good on Brash for having the courage to say this here in Utopia.

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  5. YesWeDid (1,048 comments) says:

    ‘or better still, abolish minimum wages entirely for those under 20′. What happens when you hit 20?

    ‘Sorry we don’t need you anymore but before you go would you mind showing this 16 year old how to do your job’

    [DPF: You've never been an employer have you? The last thing any employer would want is to lose someone with four years experience who is doing a good job]

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  6. BeaB (2,106 comments) says:

    Some good policies but how can we trust this man? He dumped two wives (and families) and now has dumped Hilary Calvert who supported his leadership grab. He clearly has a ruthless streak.

    I suspect many women would feel as I do, that this is a man whose private behaviour is an indication of the kind of leadership we could expect of him and that is not a pleasant prospect.

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  7. dime (9,792 comments) says:

    mike – so what do you suggest minor parties do? just copy their big brothers but with a couple of slightly different options?

    was that your way of trying to close down debate? or just another mindless post cause it had been a whole 3 mins since your last inane comment.

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  8. dime (9,792 comments) says:

    Bea – obsessed much? did The Don do you in the toilets at some truck stop and never call??

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  9. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    The polcies arent bad though this one beggars a few questions ” see legislation passed which would make it harder for governments to pass laws and regulations which would impinge on the rights of citizens”, not the least of which is what is their definition of “rights”.

    But again, ACT’s policies are still only tinkering around the edges.

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  10. somewhatthoughtful (462 comments) says:

    No shit they’d move us right, but I’d actually rather we moved forward….don’t really see that happening so much under those conditions – unless destroying the domestic consumption power of your poor and lower-middle class is now considered good economics…

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  11. Pete George (23,434 comments) says:

    Major policies like “radically reduce the company tax rate, to perhaps 10 or 15%” are window dressing for party attention seeking and core appeasement.

    The policies that matter for small parties are ones that have a realistic chance of getting somewhere so in the end it’s a waste of time putting a lot of effort into extravagant policy that is effectively futile.

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  12. dime (9,792 comments) says:

    “» favours the sale of government-owned businesses”

    I think the right should let this go. Its pretty clear the people dont want full asset sales. Sure they never run as efficiently as private companies but who cares. As long as they return a profit to the crown. I dont see the harm.

    “» harmonise the top personal, company and trust tax rates at 21%; or”

    Now this would be glorious. How much would it actually cost in the short term? have ACT! done the numbers? By cost I mean, how much more would we have to borrow before we saw growth in the tax take? 4 billion? would that really matter? how much better off would we be? would inflation go nuts or would we just be cocked?

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  13. Lance (2,628 comments) says:

    @dime
    That is possibly the most tasteless thing I have ever seen on KB.
    What an arsehole

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  14. andretti (130 comments) says:

    YesWeDid (472) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 10:21 am
    ‘or better still, abolish minimum wages entirely for those under 20′. What happens when you hit 20?

    ‘Sorry we don’t need you anymore but before you go would you mind showing this 16 year old how to do your job’

    Yes Fuck the kids let them stay on the dole the world is for us adults cause we are greedy and want it all.

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  15. lastmanstanding (1,279 comments) says:

    Works for me. Especially the smaller government. I mean look at what we have now. Government departments that waste most of what they spend show no common sense dont speak to each other so problems fall thru the cracks. Hopelessly ineffecient.

    Most of them are make work outfits more interested in filling our forms than actually doing anything useful;

    No competitive instinct therefore no customer focus rather one of Dont like it FOXTROT OSCAR.

    With the huge numbers of small businesses with the owners also having Family Trusts cant believe the pollies havent figured out that aligning personal company and trust rates would stop us gaming the system as we have done for years. How dumb are they

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  16. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    dime
    I’m astonished -you actually have a point. Should these minor parties say what they would implement if they ruled the world or should they be more specific about what they think they can actually achieve?

    But then after your promising start, you revert to type. What Lance said.

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  17. cha (3,935 comments) says:

    favours the sale of government-owned businesses

    Well someone’s got to create wealth.

    * In December 1986, all of the top 10 companies originated in the private sector and had a total sharemarket value of $20,712 million.

    * Thirteen years later seven of the 10 companies started in the private sector and had a market value of $13,044 million.

    * Today, only four of the top 10 have a private sector background and their sharemarket capitalisation is just $10,866 million.

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  18. dime (9,792 comments) says:

    Lance – really? you dont come here often eh?

    im sorry but watching her character assassination whenever the Dons name is mentioned gives me the shits. Its just a constant barrage. we get it. she doesnt like what hes done in his PERSONAL life.

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  19. dime (9,792 comments) says:

    mike – im astonished that you can be astonished at the idea that other people dont make enough points for your liking. have you ever met a thread you didnt feel the need to comment on?

    as for reverting to type, see my reply to lance. shes a horrible lady.

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  20. KevinH (1,205 comments) says:

    ACT is sacrificing the youth vote with it’s policies, not an intelligent decision if you want to make a difference. Without Banks in Epsom, ACT would not make the cut.

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  21. starboard (2,521 comments) says:

    10 outa 10 Dime…havent laughed so hard in ages!

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  22. dime (9,792 comments) says:

    Kevin – how much of the youth vote do you think they can actually get?

    young people always gravatate to the left. that is, until they get their first pay cheque and wonder where all their money went.

    I think the tea party shows there are enough middle class people to force a change in national thinking.

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  23. Rodders (1,755 comments) says:

    starboard, I can just picture that
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Trollface.png

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  24. YesWeDid (1,048 comments) says:

    [DPF: You've never been an employer have you? The last thing any employer would want is to lose someone with four years experience who is doing a good job]

    Yes I’m an employer, I own and run an engineering business.

    I’ve also worked in service industries for the minimum youth wage (while at high school in the 80’s), when I got too ‘old’ the supermarket couldn’t get rid of me fast enough.

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  25. spector (180 comments) says:

    Running your own engineering business, sounds like your life went to hell after getting the sack from the supermarket.

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  26. backster (2,141 comments) says:

    YES WE DID………And another kid got a chance for a start eh.

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  27. BeaB (2,106 comments) says:

    Yes I may seem obsessed but I expect our leaders to have some moral fibre. We can forgive one dumped marriage and family but two? And then all the reported affairs? And the shameless parading of his wife from Singapore when it suited him?
    I can’t get past seeing Brash as a man of monumental ego and vanity and, like Winston Peters, he will never get my vote however good the policies.
    And, Dime, I shouldn’t even respond to your sleazy comment but, although I have met Brash several times (and didn’t much care for him in person either), I wouldn’t touch him with a bargepole so go and have your dirty old man fantasies together.

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  28. dime (9,792 comments) says:

    “And the shameless parading of his wife from Singapore when it suited him?”

    why did you add the “from Singapore” bit? how is that relevent?

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  29. Shunda barunda (2,977 comments) says:

    Yes I may seem obsessed but I expect our leaders to have some moral fibre. We can forgive one dumped marriage and family but two? And then all the reported affairs? And the shameless parading of his wife from Singapore when it suited him?
    I can’t get past seeing Brash as a man of monumental ego and vanity and, like Winston Peters, he will never get my vote however good the policies.

    BeaB, I am in total agreement, Don is just a greedy rich prick with the morals and social responsibility as attractive as garden slug in your salad, (actually, that is not fair to the slug, they are slimy because they can’t help it)

    When I heard who the new ACT candidate is for the West Coast I realised my opinions of the ACT party were correct, nothing but a bunch of self serving rich pricks and red neck enablers.

    If National snuggle up too close to these b@stards then they will be handing the country back to Labour before “lunchtime”.

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  30. Courage Wolf (557 comments) says:

    While I don’t agree with every single item, there’s a lot I do agree with, and they would definitely help push New Zealand faster in the right direction.

    Which ones do you disagree with and why?

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  31. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    KevinH (381) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    ACT is sacrificing the youth vote with it’s policies, not an intelligent decision if you want to make a difference. Without Banks in Epsom, ACT would not make the cut.

    Umm there are plenty of young people round here that would like a job as opposed to the 20 or so currently being laid off in this area because the companies are off to Korea to build their engineering bits.

    YesWeDid (473) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Yes I’m an employer, I own and run an engineering business.

    So how is that going then? The Chinese havn’t managed to empty your workshops yet like that have all the others around?

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  32. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    Shunda barunda (1,922) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Yes I may seem obsessed but I expect our leaders to have some moral fibre. We can forgive one dumped marriage and family but two? And then all the reported affairs? And the shameless parading of his wife from Singapore when it suited him?
    I can’t get past seeing Brash as a man of monumental ego and vanity and, like Winston Peters, he will never get my vote however good the policies.

    BeaB, I am in total agreement, Don is just a greedy rich prick with the morals and social responsibility as attractive as garden slug in your salad, (actually, that is not fair to the slug, they are slimy because they can’t help it)

    When I heard who the new ACT candidate is for the West Coast I realised my opinions of the ACT party were correct, nothing but a bunch of self serving rich pricks and red neck enablers.

    If National snuggle up too close to these b@stards then they will be handing the country back to Labour before “lunchtime”.

    So , you wouldn’t like any Jobs on the coast then shunda?
    That’s good, move away and let someone else live there. Good place for you, South Auckland.

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  33. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    BeaB (871) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Yes I may seem obsessed but I expect our leaders to have some moral fibre. We can forgive one dumped marriage and family but two? And then all the reported affairs? And the shameless parading of his wife from Singapore when it suited him?
    I can’t get past seeing Brash as a man of monumental ego and vanity and, like Winston Peters, he will never get my vote however good the policies.

    That’s fine, we wouldn’t vote for you, just like we didn’t vote for Helen and her gaggle of gays, losers, tosers, theives, and people intent on robbing others of their lives and livelyhoods.

    You sneering bloody socialists are all the same.

    And Beab what makes you such as self righteous person.
    Talk about ago’s etc.
    Your sanctimonuos attitude is even worse, especially as you have no idea nor the guts to make a positive difference to NZ.

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  34. Falafulu Fisi (2,179 comments) says:

    Shunda said…
    When I heard who the new ACT candidate is for the West Coast I realised my opinions of the ACT party were correct, nothing but a bunch of self serving rich pricks and red neck enablers.

    And who makes the computer that you use to post your comment here? Rich corporate folks or poor bastards?

    You can’t/shouldn’t argue against the rich and at the same time, enjoy the products of their creations.

    You know what, all your comments here at Kiwiblog confirm to me you’re a dumbfuck. It is people like you who think that they’re leaning right are the ones doing the damage. You’re the arseholes who’re subconsciously helping the left and progressives, because you have no principles to stand on. Your every comment here on Kiwiblog is a left leaning one, without you knowing it (at subconscious level). The reason is because you’re fuck and dumb arsehole.

    My brother is uneducated (he left highschool at 15) and he’s a cleaner at McDonald. He was a Labour voter, until I explained to him that the reason he’s paying more tax is that the government wants to redistribute it to others. Simple explanation really. Now he says he’s gonna vote ACT, because he wants the govt to take less from him (considering he’s a low income himself & his wife) rather that redistributing his tax $. He earns his living from working for (some) rich folks (McD owners), so he understands that without the rich to employ him, he would probably better off returning to the Island to grow taro, rather than surviving here on a minimum government handout. Simple explanation really is that now he has principles to stand on, ie, self responsibility and take care of yourself. Govt should take less from him, so he can take care of his own affairs.

    If the uneducated folks can understand simple/clear explanation of basic principles, then why can’t you? I’m sure that you finished highschool, didn’t you? You can understand simple explanation that rich people with their propensity for risk taking/entrepreneurship take the society with them forward in their guest for earning more profits (resulting in business expansions, hiring more people, paying more tax to Govt, etc,…). Overall, there is a net benefit to society, since everyone’s level of wealth is raised. Adam Smith, invisible hand?

    How hard for you dumb brain to understand that very simple explanation? It is dumbfuck like you (who think that they’re right leaning) that’s doing the most damage and helping the progressives/lefties win the debate and policies.

    I suggest that you go and fuck a horse somewhere. I’m sick of National supporter and arseholes like you who have nothing nice to say about Don & ACT but criticize and taking snide from the sideline. If you don’t want to vote ACT, then STFU arsehole. It is unbelievable that uneducated people like my brother can understand issues but the so called fucktard National supporter like you can’t?

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  35. Shunda barunda (2,977 comments) says:

    So , you wouldn’t like any Jobs on the coast then shunda?

    More jobs here than anywhere else at present.

    That’s good, move away and let someone else live there. Good place for you, South Auckland.

    No thanks, and you clearly have no comprehension of what ACT would really do to this country.

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  36. Shunda barunda (2,977 comments) says:

    And who makes the computer that you use to post your comment here? Rich corporate folks or poor bastards?

    You can’t/shouldn’t argue against the rich and at the same time, enjoy the products of their creations.

    You know what, all your comments here at Kiwiblog confirm to me you’re a dumbfuck. It is people like you who think that they’re leaning right are the ones doing the damage. You’re the arseholes who’re subconsciously helping the left and progressives, because you have no principles to stand on. Your every comment here on Kiwiblog is a left leaning one, without you knowing it (at subconscious level). The reason is because you’re fuck and dumb arsehole.

    Wow, you really dispelled my ACT – red neck connection there, didn’t you :roll:

    You have an exceptionally poor understanding of what is really required for true prosperity in this land of ours, you and your ACT buddies that is.

    They would destroy this country quicker than the Greens and Labour combined, thank God the rest of NZ is not as stupid as some here.

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  37. Shunda barunda (2,977 comments) says:

    You sneering bloody socialists are all the same.

    And you sneering hyper capitalists are either deaf dumb and blind or have your heads so far up your own backsides that you can’t see what unrestrained capitalist greed has done to the global economy.

    And your answer is to now join the party after everyone has drunk all the piss and puked in the pool.

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  38. Weihana (4,496 comments) says:

    “[DPF: You've never been an employer have you? The last thing any employer would want is to lose someone with four years experience who is doing a good job]”

    Depends on a number of factors. Generally if you pay peanuts you get monkeys, but it’s a trade off. Does the money saved outweigh the lower productivity of the individual worker? For many jobs I would say it could. That’s not to say a youth rate is necessarily a bad thing. After all, if the boss fires someone because he had to go onto an adult rate, then that means he’s hiring more young people and isn’t that the objective of youth rates? To encourage more hiring of young people?

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  39. ben (2,372 comments) says:

    YesWeDid

    I’ve also worked in service industries for the minimum youth wage (while at high school in the 80′s), when I got too ‘old’ the supermarket couldn’t get rid of me fast enough

    No business wishes to get rid of valuable employees, since that harms financial returns. Did you ever consider your performance is responsible for their desire to see your quick exit?

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  40. ben (2,372 comments) says:

    YesWeDid – saw a movie recently with a line written for you: “Did you ever consider your career advancement was stunted by your professional conduct and not by imagined prejudices?”

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  41. Falafulu Fisi (2,179 comments) says:

    Shunda horsefucker said…
    And you sneering hyper capitalists are either deaf dumb and blind or have your heads so far up your own backsides that you can’t see what unrestrained capitalist greed has done to the global economy.

    Do you understand what you’re talking about or you’re just a simple dumbfucker? The damage to the global economy was (and has always been) done/caused by government intervention/regulation of free markets.

    How about you read the following so you’re being informed, huh?

    The Myth that Laissez Faire Is Responsible for Our Financial Crisis

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  42. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    Falafulu demonstrates the virtues of tolerance again.

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  43. BeaB (2,106 comments) says:

    Dime you may have forgotten what a running joke it was when Brash kept introducing his wife from Singapore. Perhaps to counteract the accusations that he was a racist but it made him look a twit. Not hard, actually.
    viking2 it
    It’s always a mistake to jump to conclusions based on ignorance. You have no idea what I may have contributed to making NZ a better place. Nor, obviously, have you a clue about my politics.
    Why do you old guys get yourselves so worked up?

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  44. first time caller (384 comments) says:

    BeaB – I wondered if Don was going to hold the portfolio of women affairs….

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  45. BeaB (2,106 comments) says:

    first time caller He’s certainly got plenty of experience.

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  46. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    BeaB (873) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
    You have no idea what I may have contributed to making NZ a better place. Nor, obviously, have you a clue about my politics.

    Your politics stick out like a babons arse and please do tell us about all the things you have done.to make a difference to NZ.
    Positive stuff not lefty shit.

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  47. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    You know what bothers me about all this.
    I didn’t bother about Wally Nash’s behavoir, Jim Bolgers,Micheal Cullens, David Langes calling by the Pope, Savages behavoir, Muldons behavoir nor did it bother me about how many girl friends or wives they had.
    But Beab has a thing about Brash and its just leaves youa bit gobsmacked at the jilted woman attitude that she espouses.

    Do you have that problem with all men. Beab. It would certainly seem so.

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  48. Courage Wolf (557 comments) says:

    For anyone who is interested, the anti-Brash brigade are out on the NZ Herald’s Facebook page:

    http://www.facebook.com/nzherald.co.nz/posts/148553275231522

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  49. BeaB (2,106 comments) says:

    Viking2 Not all men. Just some. Guess who.

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  50. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    Get over Beab. Stick to policy becuase that’s what matters.

    Hitler onlygot married once but I’m sure you wouldn’t recomend his policies.
    Its policy that matters. and of course how that is acheived and from what Brash has said all along is that these things can be acheived without throwing people out of their homes etc.

    I can tell you from where I travel everyday that it ain’t getting better out there so somewthing has to change or we will be down the gurgler like Greece.

    Over to you to put your predujices aside.

    For your information I have never liked John Banks but if its necessary to ,(to coin a phrase), swallow that dead rat to get something better in NZ poitical leadership then that’s what has to happen.

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  51. Weihana (4,496 comments) says:

    Falafulu Fisi

    Do you understand what you’re talking about or you’re just a simple dumbfucker? The damage to the global economy was (and has always been) done/caused by government intervention/regulation of free markets.

    How about you read the following so you’re being informed, huh?

    The Myth that Laissez Faire Is Responsible for Our Financial Crisis

    ———————————————–

    So he starts off by demonstrating that the US is not a laissez-faire economy. Very true. But that doesn’t mean one cannot find fault with a lack of regulation by examing *parts* of the economy to see how they work under different rules. It is a fallacy to argue that you cannot criticize the idea of laissez-faire capitalism until the US practices it 100%.

    He then proceeds to lay the blame for the recent financial crisis on the very existence of the Federal Reserve System, though little analysis is given to the history of the Federal Reserve, particularly the reasons it was instituted in the first place.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1907 (for instance)

    Also while the Federal Reserve does deserve blame, do we just overlook the fact that the Chairman of the Federal Reserve until 2006 was Alan Greenspan who is himself an advocate of laissez-faire capitalism? Or was Greenspan a Marxist plot to discredit capitalism?

    As Greenspan himself has admitted, the flaw in his thinking was that he expected financial institutions to self-regulate – a fundamental tenet of laissez-faire capitalist ideology. But as we have seen, human nature doesn’t exactly work according to the theory and that is why some regulation is needed.

    “Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholder’s equity — myself especially — are in a state of shocked disbelief.” – Alan Greenspan 23 Oct 2008

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  52. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    “Too much capitalism does not mean too many capitalists, but too few capitalists.” G.K. Chesterton.

    An alternative to both socialism and unrestrained free market capitalism:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

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  53. Weihana (4,496 comments) says:

    “Distributism (also known as distributionism, distributivism) is a third-way economic philosophy formulated by such Catholic thinkers…”

    Enough said. :)

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  54. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    “Enough said.”

    Ah, liberal bigotry and narrow minded prejudice at its best :)

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  55. Weihana (4,496 comments) says:

    “…though proponents [of Distributism] also cite such periods as the Middle Ages as examples of the historical long-term viability of distributism.”

    Ahhh the golden age we all can’t wait to return to!

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  56. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    Well, it was in some respects superior to our own. But I don’t advocate a return so much as an ancient-future reformation:

    http://www.amazon.com/Angels-Architecture-Protestant-Vision-Middle/dp/1885767404

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  57. reid (16,227 comments) says:

    scrap the Emissions Trading Scheme

    I’d like to agree with this for I’m an AGW skeptic but looking at NZ’s diplomatic profile, we get serious value from being one of the first off the block with this. AGW is a political issue disguised as a scientific one. It is a UN-sponsored and run initiative and simply put, do we want be on the bus or off it? At the mo, we have a good seat on it, do we want to give all that up? If we do give it up, we’re off the bus when almost every other country has already clambered on, and what does the future then look like, for us? Sure, it’s bollocks. We all know that. But here we are, aren’t we?

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  58. Shunda barunda (2,977 comments) says:

    Falafulu demonstrates the virtues of tolerance again.

    Exactly, and just like the f@ckwit the ACT party have appointed on the West Coast, you give them enough rope and they hang themselves.

    Except when they get into power though, then they hang everyone else first! ;)

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  59. Weihana (4,496 comments) says:

    reid – what does it mean, in real terms, for us to be “on the bus”?

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  60. adze (2,090 comments) says:

    Falafulu Fisi
    “If you don’t want to vote ACT, then STFU arsehole.”

    I can appreciate that you were having a rant, but this doesn’t sound like a very libertarian principle. As I commented on CK’s blog recently, people are free to criticise whatever they want.

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  61. Weihana (4,496 comments) says:

    Falafulu Fisi – “The reason is because you’re fuck and dumb arsehole.”

    Another gem. lol

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  62. reid (16,227 comments) says:

    reid – what does it mean, in real terms, for us to be “on the bus”?

    You can’t express it in “real terms” Weihana for those are currently unknown and unknowable given the dynamics of human and political behaviour.

    If you know them: i.e. can quantify them, pray tell.

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  63. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    I would comment but it’s to risky, love the insults, some real keepers.

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  64. hj (6,854 comments) says:

    Phil Heatley – National
    Confirmed there will be no capital gains tax under a National Government. No other taxes focused on investors, presentation on RTA, Unit titles act and HNZ policies.

    He walked through a short history of what has happened on his watch, including changes to the RTA, Unit Titles act and HNZ anti-social tenant policy. Commented on state housing shortages outlining how some people on the housing list can actually afford to buy their own home. HNZ now explained to people how to calculate if they could afford their own home. National expect a sell down of the wrong type of state house, 3 bedrooms, in the wrong areas, eg Southland, and intend to reinvest in more one bed and 5 bed properties in high demand areas. HNZ policy is now to move people paying market rent in state houses to private rentals, leaving the sate houses for the those who need it.

    Don Brash – Act
    The policy Dr Brash spoke to was opening up more land to push down land prices and thus house prices. His speech focused on explaining that unaffordable houses are caused by the constrained land supply of local government. By opening up more land to development Dr Brash believes this would reduce the value of land/cost of land and make housing more affordable. Currently, he says, developed land/cities/towns cover just 1% of the national land mass so opening up more land would not affect the country. The presentation felt quite short.
    http://www.propertytalk.com/forum/showthread.php?29203-Capital-PIA-July-meeting-Don-Brash%28Act%29-Phil-Heatley%28Nat%29-amp-Phil-Twyford%28Lab%29

    “Over the last 20 years, agriculture and forestry land per capita has reduced from almost five to just under three hectares per person, as shown in Figure 2. Figure 3 shows that the reduction has resulted from both losses of productive land and from population growth, with population having the larger effect.

    Population growth and urban expansion is causing a decline in the productive capacity of land in the Auckland region. Between 2001 and 2006, urban development in the Auckland region replaced prime agriculture land at a rate of about 333 hectares per year, according to a recent report from the Auckland Regional Council.

    Figure 3 also shows that, if population grows as projected, then agriculture and forestry land per person will reduce to 2.4 Ha per person. At that level there will still be abundant land to support New Zealand’s population. However, the potential economic contribution of agriculture and forestry per person will be much reduced from the contribution in 1990, depending on price and intensification outcomes. ”
    http://www.nzinstitute.org/index.php/nzahead/measures/agriculture_and_forestry_land_per_capita1/

    The Capital Gains Mining Party Inc.

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  65. mattyroo (1,020 comments) says:

    Falafulu Fisi, well said at 1.11pm to Shunda. He has absolutely no idea what it would take to grow the economy, he is against any form of mining, because it might destroy some scenic (in his opinion) spot that he may visit one day. If only all the people on the West Coast, whom he purports to support knew what he advocates, he wouldn’t find himself amongst friendly folk.

    He’s a typical lefty, he’ll be claiming every benefit possible, yet railing against people who use entirely legitimate means to minimise tax.

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  66. mattyroo (1,020 comments) says:

    Shunda, seeing as you know exactly what is required to fix the economy, please list all the policies you would enact that would fix the economy. Also, please go through the policy points listed in DPFs post and rebut them all, with why they would send NZ to hell in a handcart faster than Labour and the Melons.

    I look forward to being enlightened by your wisdom and economic genius.

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  67. Weihana (4,496 comments) says:

    # reid (8,240) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    reid – what does it mean, in real terms, for us to be “on the bus”?

    You can’t express it in “real terms” Weihana for those are currently unknown and unknowable given the dynamics of human and political behaviour.

    If you know them: i.e. can quantify them, pray tell.

    ————————————–

    I don’t know either but it seems the trade off here is between a definite waste of money on one hand and something unknown on the other. Unless we have some idea as to what these unknown consequences might be then I’m inclined to think it best we do the only thing we know is right: dump the silly ETS.

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  68. Shunda barunda (2,977 comments) says:

    Falafulu Fisi, well said at 1.11pm to Shunda. He has absolutely no idea what it would take to grow the economy, he is against any form of mining, because it might destroy some scenic (in his opinion) spot that he may visit one day..

    Well that is total unsubstantiated bullsh!t.

    I am not against mining, just against get rich quick pricks that have no regard for the environment or the communities within it.
    You are clearly ignorant of what goes on “closer to the coal face” so to speak and you can comfortably sit in your arm chair well away from where the mining actually takes place and pontificate about all the rabid greenies stopping those filthy rich West Coast gold miners getting even filthier rich.
    Please, get a clue, find out what goes on, and especially find out what a piss poor attitude the ACT party clearly endorses.

    If only all the people on the West Coast, whom he purports to support knew what he advocates, he wouldn’t find himself amongst friendly folk.

    Oh really? I work with people within the mining industry and generally get on well with them, if of course, they are a reasonable human being and not into industrial vandalism of our delicate landscape. There are mining folk down here just as pissed off as I am over the destruction of their beloved West Coast.

    He’s a typical lefty, he’ll be claiming every benefit possible, yet railing against people who use entirely legitimate means to minimise tax..

    I guarantee you that I pay more tax comparatively than you do, simply because of my employment status.
    And lefty? please, where the hell have you been.

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  69. mattyroo (1,020 comments) says:

    Waiting for your rebuttal of all the ACT economic policies, and why they are so bad for NZ, Shunda.

    Don’t be shy.

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  70. Anthony (789 comments) says:

    Shunda can also say which of those nasty policies Roger Douglas introduced that any subsequent governments have actually reversed? There was raising the top rate of tax to 39 cents for a period for rich pricks on $60,000 – now that achieved a lot didn’t it? All those middle class people rushing to avoid it by buying property . . .

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  71. Rat (383 comments) says:

    ACT #3

    just heard it could be Sonny Bill Williams, Penny or Hooper.

    Its just taking a while to get through the criminal screening

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  72. whoisthisguy02 (29 comments) says:

    i think those affairs prove that brash is a strong character that shouldnt be fucked with. i couldnt think of a better person to lead act. if you are sick and tired of asking permission to live your own life, vote act! by the way, the youths havnt forgotten about brash.

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