From the OUSA President
August 4th, 2011 at 5:08 pm by David FarrarLogan Edgar, the President of the (compulsory) Otago University Students’ Association left this message at 8.42 pm last night on the Facebook wall of Sir Roger Douglas:
Get fucked you dinosaur…just trying to give yourself a legacy because you know you’re getting too old. You should actually debate the Bill with Pete or Grant… you’d get torn to shreds. Cunt
He has since deleted it, but a copy was automatically e-mailed to the page admin.
What better example can you find of why student associations should be voluntary. Every student at Otago is forced to fund Mr Edgar’s salary. This is what Labour are fighting so hard to preserve. I bet you no President of a voluntary society would ever act like that – they’d lose all their members in minutes.
Meanwhile Otago students may want to consider whether they wish Mr Edgar to continue to represent them.
August 4th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Mr. Edgar is obviously studying for his Doctorate in Modern English.
Perhaps he just removed his post to rework the punctuation.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
I am so glad I never went to University, preferring instead to learn to think independantly!
I quite like freedom!
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Time for Logan Edgar to resign. He isn’t representing the views of the majority of his members, and even if he was, he wouldn’t be doing them any favours!
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Unless he’s resigned, he’s going to prove every point about accountability in unions that advocates of VSM have raised. This should be good.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
EPIC FAIL from a moron.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Logan Edgar’s comments are very immature. I do not support the VSM, but this is democracy. If the OUSA has any respect for themselves as an organisation, or for the potential future of any student unions, then Edgar should resign or be sacked.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
sacked by friday?
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
So it was the language of President Nixon that discredited the existence of government and taxation of the people ….
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Related to Eion Edgar?
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
I hear Logan is on the move to Labour HQ such is his ability to connect with their core constituents (irrational fuckwits).
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
And up pops a student politician idiot, just to illustrate why VSM is worth having.
Love your work, Mr Edgar.
(This leftie likes VSM, BTW.)
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Its just not on to abuse an MP in that manner if you’re a Union President. To do it in such a public forum is stupidity.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Although, being facebook… It is possible that somebody may have sat at his desk and typed the message.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Student Funded Salary $40,000
Fancy iPhone with Internet access $600
Crate of Speights with the flatties $30
Getting drunk enough by 8.42pm to leave an
obnoxious, offensive & juvenile rant on an ACT
politicians Facebook site effectively ruining your
career in student politics…PRICELESS
You sir, are denying a village of an idiot.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
$40,000!!!!!
Why would he bother?
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
40k? Jesus.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Actually Petermcc he probably represents accurately the views of the majority of the tiny number of students who actually bother to vote. So in that sense he is probably safe, but from the perspective of intelligent things to actually say in a public forum, well if I was a student today regardless of political persuasion I think that a no confidence motion would be justified.
I was on the OUSA executive as Public Affairs officer from memory back in the 80′s and sent an invite to every politician in parliament to talk on campus. Douglas accepted and it was the second best attend public speech I have ever attended at an OUSA sponsored speech.
I rather suspect that it is still the second best ever attended, I actually facilitated the best I have ever seen OUSA event a few years later when Donald Woods was the Commonwealth Press Association speaker and I managed to convince my then colleges at the ODT we should give the event to the OUSA, ironically I had to explain to my successor ( to be fair by quite a few years ) who Donald Woods and Steve Biko were.
I hope Heather Roy and Sir Roger were invited to Otago University by OUSA.
We all make inappropriate comments sometimes quite by accident indeed DPF has said he couldn’t be a MP because of his propensity to fire from the hip but he I note doesn’t do so on line.
Indeed I remember one now prominent Kiwi in the Captain Cook Tavern describing ” big nose ” as useless referring to a NZ Black Cap Captain who was having a beer a few feet away, although he wasn’t aware of that.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Comments like this only reinforce why Student Associations should be voluntary. By association it also reinforces the perception that the Labour party are led by a bunch of plonkers. Michael Joseph Savage must cringe in his grave when he looks at the current mob.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Most won’t know, but because we bungled the Constitution last year, and the Exec since haven’t thought it important enough to fix up, it appears to be impossible for OUSA members to sack any Executive Officer. That is, students cannot “no confidence” the Exec. They only way they go is to resign – or commit such a crime that they are no longer able to sit on the Committee of a registered charity.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
James: yes, the constitution of OUSA seems to gather up various repugnant clauses whenever attention is turned away.
Is the “take it or leave it” clause still there on budget debates?
Sheeh, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel. They just have no clue.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
he was on the money
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Epic fail for losing his cool and effectively saying “my daddy could beat up your daddy”.
He should have called Douglas Emperor Palpatine. I can’t remember which lefty blogger called him that but I can just imagine electric-blue lightning bolts flying out of Douglas’s hands into Edgar’s writhing body
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Right of way is Way of Right (963) Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
I am so glad I never went to University, preferring instead to learn to think independantly!
I quite like freedom!
That’s exactly how the other half feel.
Vote:Independent thinking. Who would have thought we needed to teach this to kids at University?
August 4th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
DPF: “I bet you no President of a voluntary society would ever act like that – they’d lose all their members in minutes.”
If OUSA was voluntary, then have you considered that they may be even more extreme than they are currently?
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Sad to think that kids go to uni to earn $40,000.
We really are a third world shithole!
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
This guy could have Goof’s job any time he wishes…his vocab and demeanour will be perfect for the Labour caucus. He now only needs to learn to deny, lie, deny, and lie again!
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Scrubone when I was there in the 80″s the constitition was a bloody massive document hell we were still objecting to the Vietnam war on policy shit. Ross Blanch the then president asked me if I would back cleaning it up and getting it down to a few pages I agreed and common sense broke out. We achieved what Ross wanted to. Not a political document but a sensible working document that was a few pages long not hundreds of pages.
OUSA needs guys like Ross to lead them he could get the left and right on board and focus on what was important.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Hey Logan, who’s the C**T now?
president@ousa.org.nz
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Screen shot of the comment:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150265792898347&set=a.114173983346.99017.95170438346&type=1&ref=nf
Scrubone, yep the budget clause is there – Exec prepares budget, students accept or reject.
To be honest, I don’t mind that process, so long as the budget preparation process has extensive consultation.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
What a monumental cock. Will the press beat up on this like they did with Alasdair Thompson (which was a far less insulting outburst than this)?
I won’t hold my breath.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Maori VP at WSU was made to resign for saying something like ‘you have a lot of good cunts in your rugby team’.
Makes you wonder.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Roger Douglas had already established a legacy of achievement while LE was still sucking on an actual tit, as opposed to the compulsorily-funded one he is now.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Another left wing tosser that has gone off the rails. Reminds me when I once turned over a dead rabbit and there was a seething mass of maggots crawling away.
That sums up the Labour party and its ilk.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
I came across a dead bloated cow lying in a creek once and gave it a bit of a kick.
A huge eel shot out of the poor beasts arsehole accompanied by a very bad smell.
That sums up Liarbour for me.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Logan Edgar, a true loser and future leader of the socialist Labour Party.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Once there was a ‘Logan Somers Edgar’ who turned up in various news stories being a right berk.
Vote:From memory looked a the same as wee Logan the abuser.
Has there been a little name change here.
And also a familial attitude about OPM. ???
August 4th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
I disagree.
Such a tirade would only enhance his popularity at University.
Let’s be realistic here there’s probably been far worst muttered in every caucus of every Party in Parliament about the same man.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Yeah, but come on.. the timing is impeccable!
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 12:03 am
Mr Edgar comes across as a vile and petulant child.
VSM can’t come soon enough!
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 1:07 am
It is almost time to put the champagne on ice… VSM is finally getting its day in the house and not a moment too soon.
I made this point on Facebook as well. Logan has actually dissolved all the hard work that OUSA and NZUSA and their member unions have done in the VSM campaign. They have all spent tens of thousands of dollars of students (and taxpayers) money protesting the VSM bill. Their main argument was that student unions were fair, representative organisations that all students must join.
Logan has shown that these unions are anything but fair and representative. Furthermore, he should apologise to all right wing students – incidentally the majority of the students who go to Otago – and allow ALL ACT and Nats to withdraw from the union immediately.
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 2:07 am
they can withdraw literally whenever they like. also your argument is crippled by the fact that you’re ignoring the non-political support, media and recreational services student unions provide, but whatever.
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 7:19 am
People like this Logan Edgar are cowards. Sir Roger might be old but this little twerp would be too afraid to say that to his face unless he had a few hundred shrieking fellow travellers backing him up and a megaphone.
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Amen to that Brian…it always amused me when I went on Backbenchers…inevitably a little band of “socialist workers” (who never would have worked a day in their young lives) turned up dressed in their ‘uniform of worn pants’, old twill jackets worn over T shirts with suitable “revolutionary” slogans, and carrying what looked like old WW II gas mask cases or day packs….they were all very loud from the floor, but as Wallace was winding up they always seemed to suddenly feel the need to scarper…
I actually overhead one say once “F…we better get out of here before the end…he might come over…”
Mickey Savage, Peter Fraser, and perhaps more so Bob Semple would literally turn in their graves…
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Yes KH it will be the same person. The family seems to drop the Somers bit when it suits, or in the case of his uncle Doug he adds it when it suits (in Dougs case after he left high school)
When the case the cyclist having his racing bike stolen happened I gave him the benefit of the doubt bit now am not so sure.
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 10:38 am
He is a lying little prick too, he stated in the ODT this morning that he had previously voted National in the past, but is only 19 years old, how does that work?
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Mr Edgar uses his hyphenated surname when he thinks it will not be recognised. He tried to get into a National Party function with the Prime Minister by using different names and saying he was a long-time National Supporter. DUH! This guy is the type that gives the majority of students a bad name. I’m glad I’m not paying his salary – he really is an oxygen thief!
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Yes, the language leaves a bit to be desired, but I think those of you who say he will be fired/will resign are a bit out of touch with the modern Scarfie. Here, he is oft referred to as ‘the People’s President’ because he’s not a political wanna-be. He speaks like an average Otago student, and people here like that (even if you don’t). It’s Facebook, not a press release. Stop saying he’s the future/an example of Labour/the left; you have no idea of his political affiliations. I don’t like him personally, but don’t expect your opinion to be the same as students’.
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Leave the poor boy alone, he must be Andrew Williams illegitimate son, and he’s just enjoying his last few days of Kronic.
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
maahew,
“they can withdraw literally whenever they like. also your argument is crippled by the fact that you’re ignoring the non-political support, media and recreational services student unions provide, but whatever.”
Sorry for the cross-posting DPF, but if I can, I’d like to point maahew to these articles I’ve written on opting out:
http://mydeology.co.nz/2011/07/how-to-opt-out-of-ousa-or-not/
http://mydeology.co.nz/2011/08/day-1-of-opt-out-watch-the-battle-against-ousa-membership/
http://mydeology.co.nz/2011/08/day-2-of-opt-out-watch-ousa-races-against-parliamentary-procedure-to-grant-freedom/
And one written moments ago:
http://mydeology.co.nz/2011/08/day-3-of-opt-out-watch-omg-its-john-key/
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