Labour referred to Police – again

August 15th, 2011 at 8:12 pm by David Farrar

The Electoral Commission have stated that the unauthorised “prices are rising faster than wages” flyer is an election advertisement, and in their view is in breach of the . has been referred to the Police again also.

Whale shows the importance of actually filing complaints over illegal material.

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44 Responses to “Labour referred to Police – again”

  1. jaba (2,068 comments) says:

    I would suggest the result will be the same as the others .. no fine no nothing as usual

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  2. Inventory2 (9,786 comments) says:

    Strike Two. Will Labour be disbarred from contesting the 2011 election if a third strike is recorded?

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  3. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    These gagglers were trying to force all sorts of shit down our throats before the last election, re EFA. You would think that they would be squeaky clean and show us all how it should be done. They continually raise the bar on what it means to be hypocritical. They give me the screaming shits.

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  4. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    Newsflash, labour still corrupt and despise the rule of law. Film at 11.

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  5. scanner (340 comments) says:

    “Nothing to see here, move along” now watch the media rush to cover this -NOT

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  6. smttc (638 comments) says:

    It’s okay. Mikenmild will be along shortly to explain why all is not as it seems. If I was Pete George I would be pissed off because Mike is going to cruise past Pete’s record for reaching 10000 comments at Kiwiblog without drawing breath at the current rate.

    Must be an election year to bring out so many trolls.

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  7. wikiriwhis business (3,269 comments) says:

    ‘Must be an election year to bring out so many trolls’

    That’s my quote of the week

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  8. tvb (3,937 comments) says:

    The Labour Party have no money. They rely on getting money from Unions and pushing the envelope on the money they get from Parliament. They cannot be bothered doing fund raising, they prefer to plot and scheme instead. They figure all they will get is a slap on the wrist for any breaches but all the while they are gradually wearing down resistance to public funding of political parties.

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  9. RF (1,124 comments) says:

    There is a new Marshall in town now that Broadsword has gone.

    I am hopeful that that the Police will be free to carry out their duty without the evil witch looking over their shoulder.

    Time for a bounty on trolls.. They are starting to infiltrate decent society.

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  10. smttc (638 comments) says:

    Oh I forgot. Mike only posts during the day while he is at work doing whatrever fuckin waste of time public service job it is that he does.

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  11. dime (8,742 comments) says:

    said in baritone “ha ha ha theres nothing to this. i dont think ordinary new zealands care about some outdated silly law. move on”

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  12. Inventory2 (9,786 comments) says:

    Quite so RF; Commissioner Peter Marshall may indeed decide that it IS in the public interest to prosecute.

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  13. RF (1,124 comments) says:

    wikiriwhis business……..re trolls.. In early days they had witch smellers. Is it time we had troll smellers to bring them out in the open.

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  14. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Wouldn’t it be nice to see Labour fined a good chunk of change this time round.

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  15. flipper (3,261 comments) says:

    Yes, most of all that.
    But the real questions are:

    1. Will TVNZ now launch their own “special investigation”?
    2. Will Q + A (produced by left winger Tim Watkin) featuring flake Holmes AND slimy Espinder run this and other similar complaints about Labour this coming weekend?

    The heck they will. But if it was the Nats or Act they would in to it like hungry dogs.

    Well done Whale and DPF.

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  16. reid (15,498 comments) says:

    Key won’t do it. Ultimately it comes down to his decision in this and he doesn’t need the heat. From his perspective this issue is negative whichever way it goes.

    That’s why it hasn’t already happened. It’s not so much “play the game. Wink.” it’s time and place. These rarely arise coincidentally so if you want to pursue this route you have to.

    How can pray tell the Police prosecute Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition without undermining credibility in the political process. Sure, those who read this get it but joe average who only looks at TV One News won’t. And what does that do?

    Should we proceed regardless?

    Of course we should and damn the torpedoes. Bally lefty blighters.

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  17. Whaleoil (766 comments) says:

    @flipper…WTF has DPF done other than link to my post?

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  18. flipper (3,261 comments) says:

    Whale..
    Probably not, but at least he ran it. My point is that others wont follow up on your excellent work.
    KBO

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  19. Whaleoil (766 comments) says:

    Fair enuf

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  20. wreck1080 (3,516 comments) says:

    I don’t understand how labour keep escaping prosecution. They’ve done some appalling stuff over the years.

    Cops don’t seem to want to know about it.

    Maybe, we need electoral cops? Couldn’t the dept of internal affairs or whatever we it have these powers?

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  21. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    > Cops don’t seem to want to know about it.

    Maybe they’ve got better things to do, like prosecuting the theft of light bulbs by those with Aspergers Syndrome. You’d have to admit that theft is slightly more important than Labour reminding voters that National is not really interested in workers. By the way, how’s Key’s goal of closing the wage gap with Oz coming along?

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  22. Elaycee (4,057 comments) says:

    … and right on cue, Ross the resident apologist arrives and tries to defend the indefensible actions of his beloved Liabore Party.

    Idiot – the Police had no option but to prosecute the kid who stole the light fittings and as his equally thick lawyer advised him to plead not guilty (rather than plead guilty and take diversion), this has a predictable outcome. But don’t let the facts get in the way of your fantasy, will you?

    Equally predictable bleating from the Labour supporters who think its OK to lie / cheat / steal / backdate covering legislation when it comes to misuse of taxpayer monies, whilst the rest of the population has to abide by the rules.

    Your total hypocrisy is stunning. And consistent.

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  23. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    Ultimately it comes down to [Key's] decision

    If anyone could prove this (and many of us suspect it), then Liabours electoral funding breach would pale in comparison.

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  24. Pete George (21,789 comments) says:

    smttc @ 8.52pm – not pissed off at all. A lot of my posts were clocked up confronting nongs that no longer post here (and I avoided Phil even though he grizzled at me). It’s a much better blog now, a better range of commenters and comments, still some robust battles but mostly in much better spirit.

    And Labour continue to demonstrate that they still just don’t get a lot of things, and in particular they don’t get why they have bled so much support, so much they need a tourniquet, they are well beyond sticking plasters.

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  25. Elaycee (4,057 comments) says:

    Why would any decision to prosecute be ‘Key’s decision?”

    If a complaint has been laid with the Police, then it’s a Police decision. Remember, dear leader has left the building…… :P

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  26. Inventory2 (9,786 comments) says:

    Quite so Elaycee, as has the top brass of the police which served her administration.

    So as I said above, the new police administration may indeed decide that it IS in the public interest to prosecute, especially when one considers that there are at least two (and possible three; Damien O’Connor) alleged breaches of the Electoral Act in the pipeline. Our politicians may make the laws, but that does not exempt them from the law.

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  27. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    LAC,

    You couldn’t be more wrong. In the case of Arie Smith-Voorkamp, his lawyer originally entered a guilty plea but police made it clear they didn’t want him to get diversion. And police didn’t have to prosecute him at all. The police’s recent decision to investigate the Sunday programme over their story about Smith-Voorkamp was creepy and intimidating. But it’s heart-warming to know that police are so well resourced that police can afford the luxury of going well beyond the call of duty.

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  28. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    To paraphrase ross when Labour is referred to the police: Ooooo look over there…

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  29. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    And it’s worth noting that judges involved with the Smith-Voorkamp case have questioned the police decision to prosecute.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/5249076/Diversion-refusal-for-alleged-quake-looter

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  30. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    krazykiwi, whatever happened to Shane Ardern after he flouted the law by driving a tractor up the steps of Parliament?

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  31. BeaB (1,944 comments) says:

    Labour will get away with it yet again.

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  32. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    QED

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  33. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/arden-tractor-charges-dropped-240743

    Charges against Ardern were dropped after a judge said that it was a waste of the court’s time to hear such a case. No doubt all those here would agree it was the right decision?

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  34. Nookin (2,886 comments) says:

    Ross
    There may well have been an issue as to whether the behaiviour came within the parameters of the section. Assume for moment that it did. Once is a let-off. If he deliberately did it time and time again knowing that he was committing an offence do you think he should be prosecuted? I doubt many on this blog would take issue if he was prosecuted. You see, that’s the point. Labour knows what the law is. It has simply decided that the law does not apply to it. That it what the sense of outrage is all about. Labour persistently offends despite warnings from the electoral commission.

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  35. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    David,

    I’m surprised you haven’t linked to Key’s less-than-impressive performance on Q+A on Sunday.

    GE: One of the key indicators of wages, one of the key ones that your government set was catching up to Australian incomes. Are you making any progress in that regard?

    JK: I think we are. Um, you know, we’re three years into what’s been a 40-year decline against Australia. But in real after-tax terms, we think we have narrowed the gap with Australia.

    GE: By how much?

    JK: Uh, well, I don’t have the exact numbers off the top of my head…but we’ve narrowed the gap.

    So Key doesn’t have the figures but he’s sure the gap has narrowed. Do you think he would ever admit if the gap had widened?

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  36. Nookin (2,886 comments) says:

    “…whatever happened to Shane Ardern after he flouted the law by driving a tractor up the steps of Parliament?”
    What law by the way?

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  37. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    ross you’re being pathetic, desperately attempting directing conversation away from Labour’s repeated electoral act breeches. It’s not working.

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  38. backster (2,000 comments) says:

    The WHALE should now write to the Commissioner Of Police expressing satisfaction that they are enquiring into his complaints, offer his full co-operation, and requesting to know the name of the Officer in Charge of the Enquiry, and to be kept informed of progress at regular intervals.

    ROSS …has of course only quoted the half of the answer KEY gave in order to advance the Left Wing agenda.

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  39. Inventory2 (9,786 comments) says:

    Ross forgot to attach the photographs of National Party delegates eating babies at Sunday’s Conference breakfast…

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  40. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    Off topic Ross. Eat demerits troll boy.

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  41. Elaycee (4,057 comments) says:

    @Ross – oh, bollocks. You have either a poor memory or you are being deliberately obtuse.

    At the time 25-year-old Cornelius Smith-Voorkamp was charged, his lawyer (Jonathon Easton) said the following:

    “Formal not guilty pleas [have been] entered to both charges, essentially based on a report from a forensic psychiatrist that we’ve received,” says Mr Easton. “We’ll come back on 28th of July and discuss it with a judge and see where we go from there.”

    Also at the time, the Police stated that they had also followed the correct procedures in opposing diversion for Smith-Voorkamp, as strict criteria needed to be met for diversion to be an option.

    “One of the fundamental requirements of the diversion process is that the offender needs to be able to make an informed admission of guilt.”

    See, Ross – that’s just not possible when the defendant has entered a plea of not guilty (and has not shown any remorse).

    So stop spouting crap.

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  42. Nicholas O'Kane (168 comments) says:

    Question: how many times does Labour have to break the law, and how blantantly, before the police actually prosecute?

    If they don’t prosecute this time, someone should organise a massive march on police stations around the country to wake them up

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  43. burt (7,083 comments) says:

    I agree with Nicholas, perhaps a few thousand people could stand around outside police stations smoking pot. The first one to be arrested could say others were doing it too… the law was confusing because they know someone who once got a warning….

    How can the police expect us to follow the law when they never prosecute political parties for repeatedly breaking the law ?

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  44. Mark (1,301 comments) says:

    This is simply a waste of precious police time. Maybe there should be some punitive powers given to the electoral commission

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