Rugby World Cup 12 September 2011

September 12th, 2011 at 10:17 am by David Farrar

No matches until Wednesday but some great games yesterday.

  • Australia 32 v Italy 6
  • Ireland 22 v USA 10
  • South Africa 17 v Wales 16

The US are only the 18th ranked team in the world, and I thought they played a great game. Credit to Ireland for the win though.

And oh we were all Welsh last night. They came so close. James Hook almost won it for them.

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18 Responses to “Rugby World Cup 12 September 2011”

  1. Pete George (23,687 comments) says:

    Overall a very successful opening weekend for the RWC. Last night’s game was a cracker. The difference in the end in both the top tier games were well played tries well into the second half.

    I think it’s really good to see a rise in standards of “the other teams”. Every team that played looked as if they deserved a place in the tournament.

    It looks like every team is beatable (obviously) but also that every team is capable of winning.

    The personal highlight was the great feel in Dunedin and a terrific crowd experience at O’Stadium. Otago Stadium and Dunedin pass first test.

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  2. Jinky (188 comments) says:

    James Hook did win it for them. That kick went over and Wayne Barnes and his ARs robbed them!!. The Jaapies were cheating in the rucks, at least 2 tackles were high or dangerous and did he produce a yellow card to try and stop them? No Chance!!

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  3. Pete George (23,687 comments) says:

    Barnes seems to be one of the more lenient refs when it comes to players piling on to rucks preventing a fair contest and disrupting good ball, he allowed it last night anas he allowed it last month in Brisbane.

    It’s impossible to say if the kick that was that wasn’t would have been the deciding factor because it would have changed the course of the game.

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  4. Longknives (4,884 comments) says:

    Why are we using a contentious touch judge’s call to have a go at Wayne Barnes again?? I enjoyed the match- Thought it was a thriller and was hoping Wales could pull off the upset, but alas it was not to be….. I had a look at the Welsh National Paper this morning and they are very proud of their boys and AREN’T harping on about the referee at all- This seems to be a NZ thing… When will NZ rugby fans grow up?

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  5. Longknives (4,884 comments) says:

    If it isn’t Wayne Barnes it’s writing childish articles about Quade Cooper-
    Honestly, was this written by a twelve year old for his school project???

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/our-experts/5603981/Quade-Cooper-won-t-win-RWC-popularity-contest

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  6. Pete George (23,687 comments) says:

    Gatland said: ‘They have the technology there for these sort of issues. The players are devastated. They’ve played some great rugby and I could not have been more proud.

    ‘But, in the end, we were not good enough. We had a drop goal in front of the posts and James has missed a later penalty. Great teams take setbacks like this on the chin.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2036310/RUGBY-WORLD-CUP-2011-Wales-heartbreak-South-Africa.html#ixzz1Xgf0A3Cs

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  7. Inventory2 (10,436 comments) says:

    See my comment on the General Debate for links to both sides of the Wayne Barnes argument. He’s still not that flash at picking up forward passes either.

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  8. Roflcopter (466 comments) says:

    I think the USA can stand up tall for their defensive performance yesterday, it was outstanding, and a well deserved try at the end for them.

    Wales… well they had a couple of real opportunities that went astray, but they sure shook up the boks with great forward play and running onto the ball well.

    All in all, a fantastic showing by all the minnow teams so far.

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  9. Inventory2 (10,436 comments) says:

    @ Longknives (10.41am) – because the Laws of the Game clearly state that:

    The Referee is the sole judge of fact and of law.

    The referee is responsible for all the decisions which take place on the field. Barnes had a perfect view of the kick from just behind the kicker, whereas the assistant referee was already on the move away from his post when the ball passed through the posts. Yes; Barnes was hung out to dry by his touchie, but the buck stops with him, and with Paddy O’Brien.

    All credit to the Welsh though; they played with tremendous spirit, as did the USA team; their defence was punishing.

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  10. 3-coil (1,222 comments) says:

    We had a perfect view of “that penalty” from directly behind the kicker – it appeared it was going to drift wide, but definitely stayed just within the posts. Nobody around us could believe the decision.

    Was a shame – it may not have decided the game, but the Welsh would have had even more fire in their bellies. They were unable to defend a 6 point lead towards the end, but who knows how it may have played out.

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  11. Elaycee (4,410 comments) says:

    Its amazing that some people just don’t let the facts get in the way of a ‘good’ story…..

    For the record, the kick didn’t go over – just look at the scoreboard.

    The kick curled around the post – no doubt. Any view from the kicker angle or from behind the posts would not take into account WHEN it actually curled around, just the fact that it did. The best persons to judge ‘when’ the ball curled around the post, were the two assistants and they both deemed that it missed.

    Any one in doubt should just check the scoreboard.

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  12. mikenmild (11,772 comments) says:

    I was pretty much behind the kicker and thought it missed. A guy in front of me thought it went over, but he was wearing a red jersey so may not have been impartial!
    Whatever, Wales had other chances to win and didn’t take them. If they’d scored those 3 points 5 minutes in no one could say what would have happened.
    Excellent crowd last night; very good atmosphere.

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  13. Longknives (4,884 comments) says:

    That laughably one-eyed sports hack Duncan Johnstone is using this media-fuelled ‘controversy’ to demand that Wayne Barnes front the media over missing the forward pass in 2007!! Christ some people need to grow up!!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/our-experts/5607806/Time-for-Wayne-Barnes-to-face-the-questions

    I would have loved to see Wales upset the Boks but they didn’t- end of story.
    Can’t we just enjoy the tournament without the bitching and moaning and petty Conspiracy theories???

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  14. Pete George (23,687 comments) says:

    More poor form from Duncan Johnstone – promoting rugby thuggery as suggested by Alan Whetton:

    “Give a little pop to the fellow to make him realise he’s playing the All Blacks”.

    Alan Whetton – disgraceful thuggery

    It’s this sort of lingering last century brutishness that still causes many problems with family, street, school and some sports violence.

    We (men especially) have to learn to deal with things like men and call out the thugs.

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  15. Dazzaman (1,146 comments) says:

    Barnes seems to be one of the more lenient refs when it comes to players piling on to rucks preventing a fair contest and disrupting good ball, he allowed it last night anas he allowed it last month in Brisbane.

    Pete George, you’re one of the few people who have picked up on that. I was moaning long & loud about it to all in earshot after that Brisbane game & also last night. South Africa were a little more subtle by generally only letting one player flop on the tackled player but Aussie got away with murder in Brisbane, just about their whole tight five were doing the pancake layers thing.

    England do the same thing too but then they always have over there due to their referees being more lenient with playing the ball back with the hands.

    The ‘boks deserved the win because they finished ahead on points but Wales were the better team on the night. Looks like all 3 of the big guns have issues to sort out.

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  16. hmmokrightitis (1,595 comments) says:

    Took our kids to the USA Ireland match yesterday. Have to say it was bloody well organised, the kids (11, 9 & 7) loved it, especially with their green face paint on. Nice having the Marines there too. Stadium was packed, awash with green, and a good time had by all. 25,000 or thereabouts for a game like that, sounds like success to me.

    Wonder when all the naysayers will admit – Bum Face Sneds got it right. Ticket sales continue apace, good on him, and the organisers.

    And the joys of living in the provinces – arrived at 430PM for a 6 kickoff, parked a 5 minute walk from the stadium :)

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  17. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    To right hmmokrighititis, great night, at least the rain stayed away and it was warm. Finding parking is usually pretty easy at rugby park, got home in time to watch most of the Springbok Wales game. The US Russia game should be worth seeing to.

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  18. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    Christ people Gatland should be going ape shit at the Welsh team, 60% of the possession and 59% of the territory, they should have bolted in.

    As for Quade Cooper, pretty bloody dumb of a first five to go kneeing players, if he stops one in a ruck, ah well big boys games.

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