Hands up if you are surprised?

October 21st, 2011 at 3:01 pm by David Farrar

Derek Cheng at the Herald reports:

The Party’s vision for the future of work and wages is virtually identical to a ’ wishlist outlined at the party’s annual conference a year ago, prompting questions about their influence.

Of course it is identical. Labour is effectively the parliamentary wing of the unions.

It is incredible to consider that Phil Goff who supported so many of the reforms of the 1980s, is now pushing a return to the 1970s.

What other new policies will Labour announce? Maybe ..

  • No Sunday trading, to give workers a break
  • A retail pricing commission which sets maximum retail prices to stop consumers from being ripped off
  • A rent freeze

What other 1970s policies should Labour resurrect?

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54 Responses to “Hands up if you are surprised?”

  1. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    Carless days?

    Think big?

    Nationalisation of strategic industries such as banks, insurance companies and the Bluff smelter.

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  2. m@tt (535 comments) says:

    Not surprised at all, Labour’s relationship to the trade unions is little different to the relationship between National and the NZ Business Roundtable Union. The main difference is Labour and the trade unions are more honest about theirs.

    [DPF: Jesus Christ. You're the third blind leftie to try this line, which is 20 years out of date. Are you incapable of rational thought? The BRT has spent most of the last three years criticising the Government for not slashing spending, for not bringing back youth rates, for no privatisation in 1st term, for no market based rents etc etc.

    So apart from the fact that the unions wrote Labour's policy and the BRT is a major critic of National's policies, you also ignore the fact that the BRT has never donated one cent to National.]

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  3. adze (1,695 comments) says:

    Cloth caps fashion week?

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  4. Nick R (443 comments) says:

    Moustaches. Specially with the election in Movember and all. Cue the Paul Henry references…

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  5. davidp (3,319 comments) says:

    Nationalise Telecom NZ and run it as a division of the Post Office. Including dial telephones.

    A local car industry, with the return of the Holden Torana.

    National service.

    Goff to grow his hippy hair and mo again, and wear flares.

    Get rid of all those modern ethnic and fast food restaurants. Promote good old Cobb & Co and the local fish and chippie. Except for a single Kris Faafoi Memorial McDonalds.

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  6. Brad (75 comments) says:

    So just like the National Party is the parliamentary wing of the Business Roundtable?

    [DPF: Brad, I mean this with all due respect, but are you a moron? See comments above. The BRT has falied National for keeping interest free student loans, Working for Families, KiwiSaver, Cullen Fund, no age change for super etc]

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  7. YesWeDid (1,002 comments) says:

    Bring back ‘Happy Days’, M.A.S.H and the ‘The Waltons’ with petrol less than 20c a litre and KISS and the Sex Pistols.

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  8. Pete George (21,804 comments) says:

    Kiwigreg – carless days would be another pinched policy from the Greens.

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  9. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,668 comments) says:

    Yeah. Bring back the good old days when you went out to a restaurant and ordered a meat pie, mashed potato and green peas. Lashings of gravy of course.

    If Phil wants to do the job properly of course he’s bring back subsidized minimum prices for farmers. (That’s tax payer subsidized, in case you’re all too young.)

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  10. reid (15,526 comments) says:

    What other 1970s policies should Labour resurrect?

    ANZUS.

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  11. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    Subsidies for milk. Milk in glass bottles and home delivered.

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  12. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    Ban supermarkets from selling wine and beer, put all alcohol retailing back in the hands of local government.

    Make road cartage of goods for distances of more than 100 miles illegal.

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  13. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    Ohh look “brad” has made 7 whole posts trying to draw spurious connections between the Nats and the BRT. Time to get back to labour HQ and get some new material.

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  14. robcarr (132 comments) says:

    Opposition to Nuclear testing in the South Pacific?
    Recognition of the Chinese government?
    Support for Waitangi Day?
    Voting age lowered by two years?
    New Zealand being able to legislate extra-territorially?
    Supporting the DPB?
    Building new state houses?
    Student allowances?
    ACC coverage expansion?
    The promotion of preventative medicine?
    A more progressive tax system?

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  15. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    Bring back jim Knox.

    Then we can all play waht the fuck is jim saying again. Or Knoxword as it was called.

    Fedrationlaba!

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  16. YesWeDid (1,002 comments) says:

    Unemployment of less than 1%, OECD ranking in the top 10, house and 1/4 acre section for $50K.

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  17. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    He said the 70′s fool, not the fucking land that inflation forgot.

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  18. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    wonderful high-quality imported dope in the seventies…

    ..if goff could bring back those days..?..yum..!

    ..thai-sticks/durban-poison/indonesian/afghani-hashish..

    …and then of course there was the honey-oil…

    ..mmmm!!!!..the ‘honey-oil’…

    .’scuse me while i kiss the sky..!’

    ..that myth that the dope now is stronger..is just a myth..

    ..and is proven by forensic/strength-analysis from court cases of/from that era…

    ..phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  19. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Milk 5c per glass bottle pint delivered to the gate.

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  20. YesWeDid (1,002 comments) says:

    @Murray – adjusting for inflation housing was more affordable in the 70′s than it is now, how do you think all those baby boomers built their wealth?

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  21. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    Currency controls

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  22. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    1970s : DPB was an emergency benefit only and applicants had to pursue maintenance against spouses/putative fathers. M@tt, Ross and Brad probably still in nappies (and probably still are judging from their comments). Green party not formed. We had a rowing 8 and a decent quick bowler. Philu too stoned to write (and didn’t have a computer — or the library didn’t). Flounder and cod in Akaroa harbour.

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  23. East Wellington Superhero (1,151 comments) says:

    Look at all the idiots who think the past was better. Lucky the only thing they control is a keyboard.

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  24. East Wellington Superhero (1,151 comments) says:

    There’s a plane flying over Auckland as we speak trailing a huge “Calendar Girls” sign.
    Feminism seems to have failed. Sure, some women got to become lecturers (who no one listens to anyway) but women’s lot in life is arguably worse now – unless they’re white and upper middle-class.

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  25. david (2,482 comments) says:

    Bring back philu …………….. ooops already done. damn.

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  26. YesWeDid (1,002 comments) says:

    ‘Look at all the idiots who think the past was better.’

    I don’t think the past was ‘better’ but if asked what are you going to bring back then naturally you would want only the good things.

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  27. unaha-closp (1,033 comments) says:

    Start progress towards a Rowling-esque employer contribution savings scheme by making Kiwisaver opt out.

    Back then the Nats cried communism and set cossacks dancing across the screen.

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  28. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Can we jump from the 70′s to the 80′s when Labour had a rare moment of sanity and wanted to simplify the tax system.

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  29. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    As Labour is the parliamentary wing of the unions, Radio Pravda is the media channel of the unions – just listen to the constant stream of EPMU, CTU and Labour pollies commenting on everything and anything during the prime morning news services on National Radio.

    Come on Minister of Broadcasting, clean out the bias.

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  30. David Garrett (5,120 comments) says:

    Ah yes! the Maximum Retail Price scheme of 1973…when every Moro bar had a shield printed on it with “MRP” and a space….I dont recall every seeing an item actually priced…

    The brainchild of one Warren Freer if memory serves me, apparently still with us aged 95, sharp as a tack, and very disapproving of what Comrade Helen did to his Party….

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  31. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    phool you do realise that those thai sticks were imported in marty johnston’s jocks? ’74 was a good year for scrotal sweat eh?

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  32. Pete George (21,804 comments) says:

    At least they aren’t going as far back as 6 o’clock closing.

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  33. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    johnstone and clark were low-rent/big-mouth crims who most stayed well clear of..

    ..’cos they were low rent crims..

    ..i watched in amazement at a party in parnell one night..where one of his off-siders..(i forget which one..)

    ..who just stood there and boasted to the whole room about what they were doing..

    ..they were all so uncool..

    ..they were hot to the touch..

    ..anyone with half a brain stayed well clear…

    phil(whoar.co.nz).

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  34. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    Back then you couldn’t get a new Pub license unless you could prove a need for a new pub. And that wasn’t easy. A public bar was just that – if you were over 21 you had a right to be there and the publican had to have good reason to show you the door. You could get a taxi license, either, unless there was a shortage.

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  35. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    Got on well with them, then, did you Phil?

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  36. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    An unused scene from Underbelly: Land of the long green cloud…

    Auckland, 1970s… the camera pans across a depressing flat full of unemployables, used needles, ragged furniture, cracking plaster and peeling Human Instinct posters yellowing with THC residue. We cut to a medium close-up of phool, and gradually zoom closer as he sparks up his latest thai stick, and observe with intimate detail the dance of his face as he savours its complex aroma with the delicacy and discrimination of a master wine taster….”Ahhh yes…late harvest…grown on a north facing slope if I’m not much mistaken. I’m picking up a very familiar soupçon of scrotal sweat, an exquisitely cheeky hint of smegma, and a distinctly faecal top note…”

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  37. leftyliberal (601 comments) says:

    “the return of the Holden Torana”

    Now that’s a policy I could get behind!

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  38. Viking2 (10,704 comments) says:

    and of course employers would like 1970 wages. Freezing workers and dockers earning more than Dr’s. and Directors.

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  39. Steve (4,318 comments) says:

    Phark!
    Quardle Oodle Ardle Waddle Doodle.
    Nutter alert, nutter alert

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  40. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    At least they aren’t going as far back as 6 o’clock closing.

    I wish! Always wanted to be a sly grog king-pin! That was when gansters had some class!

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  41. Steve (4,318 comments) says:

    Labour could do some retrospective legistration on Political Correctness. I think the seventies was when they started to fuck things up and pander to the stupid for votes

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  42. tvb (3,938 comments) says:

    Make homosexuality illegal again. Controls on overseas funds – bet they are keen on that. Ban margarine except with a doctors prescription. Make it illegal to cart goods more than 40 miles. Bring back the Trekka. 6 o’clock closing. Back to the future with the Labour Party. Ferry strikes over xmas holidays and school holidays.

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  43. JeffW (303 comments) says:

    Just one thing in your commentary, DPF – surely this policy demonstrates just how little power Goff has within Labour. I do not believe for one second that he supports such rubbish, but he is going with the flow because he has little choice.

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  44. Johnboy (13,342 comments) says:

    Making prostitution illegal again would be good. Since the hookers had to comply with OSH regulations and file a tax return it’s put a stray root out of the reach of a poor, working class, randy bastard. :)

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  45. Inventory2 (9,788 comments) says:

    Welcome back Phil; I take it you’ll be voting Act now that The Donald is going to legalise your dope…

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  46. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    he’s a hoot that donald..eh..?

    ..more fun than a barrel of monkeys…

    ..and wouldn’t you like to get high with him..eh..?

    ..and just think..for how many years this clown was our banker emeritus…

    ..as he built his housing/credit-bubbles..the eventual/inevitable bursting of which brought us to the shithole situation we are currently in..

    ..our economy was ruled by a man shackled to the ideological bankruptcy of that barking-mad rand…

    (as is key..as is key..as are many of you..eh..?)

    re the don (or as we call him ‘the dong’) and the dope..?…i think i can only echo what b. bradbury said..

    ‘there isn’t enough dope in new zealand to make me vote act..’

    ..anyway..why try to board a sinking ship..?

    ..that way lies madness..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  47. Anthony (736 comments) says:

    What about that brilliant idea to protect NZ jobs that you can’t import anything without first getting a license? To get a license there has to be an investigation into whether the item could be made in NZ – afterall we used to make TV sets, cars, etc and weren’t they cheap and good quality???

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  48. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    i’ve got a theory why banks is tanking..

    ..it is that the good burghers of epsom can’t face the thought of three years of banks barking at them…again..

    ..and did anyone see banks and his mini-me.?..goldsmith..?

    ..wasn’t that hilarious..?

    ..goldsmith even does a pretend/sotto-voiced banks-bark..?

    ..i was nearly rolling on the floor…

    ..banks and the dong are both so much yesterdays’ men..

    ..and we have all seen more than enough of what they have to offer…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  49. Bogusnews (425 comments) says:

    What can you say. I know they are desperate, but the fact they are presenting this as credible policy, and I presume election winning policy is staggering.

    They must think New Zealanders are much more left leaning than we are.

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  50. dime (8,750 comments) says:

    Imagine if they bought back chicks with pubic hair. My god .

    Anyone watched 70′s porn lately?

    I dont know how some of you older fellas lived through that.

    No aids though. Tha would rock. Free balling with hookers. Sweet.

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  51. Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left (759 comments) says:

    You dont like pubic hair? even some on the front?

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  52. dime (8,750 comments) says:

    Brazilians only for Dime!

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  53. KevinH (1,128 comments) says:

    It looks as though Goff in his desperation has turned into a complete flip flop on everything he backed during the Douglas/ Lange years.
    Is this an admission from the Labour Party that they got it seriously wrong? and that instead of restructuring the economy they in fact knee capped it with their reforms.
    It’s to late now to turn the clock back, it’s about coming up with credible policy that will carry us into the future, but in so far as Goff is concerned it’s irrelevant, he will be falling on his sword on Nov 26.

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  54. Anthony (736 comments) says:

    The reforms were working well but Labour mucked them up by (amongst other things) not finishing the job with tax reform and in fact raising the top tax rate and making the tax system more complicated! Then there was working for families and squandering money on purchases of worthless assets!

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