Labour’s latest campaign tactic

October 18th, 2011 at 5:50 pm by David Farrar

This was posted to Facebook today by the Party candidate for Rodney – .

 

So John Key didn’t only arrange the H Fee, he also blew up the mine, arranged the earthquakes and was the pilot of the .

Again, this is a Labour Party candidate, not just an activist, who approvingly Facebooked this photo. Is this who you want in Government?

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78 Responses to “Labour’s latest campaign tactic”

  1. Linda Reid (415 comments) says:

    No.

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  2. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    John Key must be history’s greatest monster. But with superpowers like that I dont think it would be wise to anger him by NOT voting National.

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  3. gump (1,647 comments) says:

    Posting this to a public Facebook page shows poor judgement.

    But I don’t think it’s offensive. Just poorly executed.

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  4. Richard29 (377 comments) says:

    I’m not sure it’s fair to characterise a posting of a Labour party member (candidate or otherwise) to their Facebook friends a Labour party ‘Campaign Tactic’. It’s clearly in bad taste and I rather suspect that said candidate will be hurriedly deleting this post and or changing their privacy settings once they realise they are now famous. A lot of candidates in this election seem to be learning the hard way that the line between private and public is a lot fuzzier than they thought it was…

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  5. trout (939 comments) says:

    Another own goal

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  6. Michaels (1,318 comments) says:

    That is actually fucking disgusting.
    Christine Rose who ever she is should be dragged over the coals for this little trick.
    Don’t they ever learn?

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  7. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    @ Richard29 it’s still on her (public) FB page, just with a big long rationalisation about why it’s not offensive.

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  8. Nick R (507 comments) says:

    Poor taste perhaps, but fair. The Govt has to be judged on its reactions to natural disasters, just as it does on its handling of the economy etc.

    However – the real question is whether people reckon Labour would do any better. And so far the polls tell a pretty clear story on that front.

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  9. V (719 comments) says:

    The one thing I will never understand with the left and facebook, is that facebook is precisly the sort of large corporation they would otherwise rail against.

    Do they realise everything they put on there will be stored for ever and ever with basically no rights to appeal privacy practices that are covered under US law.

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  10. jaba (2,141 comments) says:

    Goff has lost control and what the fk is Mallard doing?

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  11. Ryan Sproull (7,136 comments) says:

    Her Facebook page has an explanation, that it’s critical of National’s responses to the disasters. You’d have to be very stupid or very disingenuous to say you thought she meant that John Key had caused the disasters.

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  12. wat dabney (3,756 comments) says:

    I’m not sure that attributing god-like powers to your political opponent is a sensible tactic.

    Labour’s next broadside? “The say he has the strength of 10 and the wit of 12 men.”

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  13. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    @ Ryan you’re being too charitable. Her status was “Dont give them another chance, its not worth the risk”. That’s some finger pointing blame there.

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  14. Monty (977 comments) says:

    what a cluster fuck opposition Labour are. I really wonder how stupid Labour can get.

    Well the first political Leaders debate is on 31 Oct 2011 on TV1 – that should be excellent.

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  15. Scott Chris (6,135 comments) says:

    trout says:- “Another own goal”

    I agree.

    Ryan Sproull says:- “Her Facebook page has an explanation”

    Doesn’t matter. We’re talking about first impressions here Ryan.

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  16. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    You’d have to be very stupid or very disingenuous to say you thought she meant that John Key had caused the disasters.

    I’ve seen Key blamed for Pike River, and he’s even been blamed for deliberately causing Rena to hit the reef.

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  17. expat (4,050 comments) says:

    Oh come on Pete, we all *know* that Key is the anti christ and he eats the poor wee children.

    We know this because Radio Pravda tells us so with incisive commentary such as-

    EPMU spokespeople wittering about Tiwai Point being up for sale (even though the EPMU has about 2 members at Tiwai Point, the rest of the workforce like to work).

    Clayton Cosgrove/Phil Goff/Union spokesweasel having a regular whine-a-thon during the 0630 news

    Mary Wilson screeching disgust at anyone with an inkling of right wing thoughts

    etc

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  18. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    What a fucking maggot, politicizing the deaths of just on 200 people

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  19. RF (1,396 comments) says:

    Everyday Labour prove that they are low life scum bags who will stoop at nothing to get back into Govt.

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  20. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    Labour party candidate with an election advert that hasn’t got an authorisation… what a surprise…. move on…..

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  21. Sofia (857 comments) says:

    Is this not a double lie?
    Not only the supposed content, but whether the hoarding actually exists anywhere other than Photoshop?

    A little positive policy might be a better consideration, Labour

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  22. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,903 comments) says:

    She’s a bit like Quade Cooper playing for the All Blacks last Sunday.

    Her little effort, apart from contravening God knows how many electoral laws, will be good for at least another five percent increase in the National/ Labour margin come the next Roy Morgan poll. By the time the election roll around it will be National 57% Labour 19%.

    Three for one.

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  23. Nick C (336 comments) says:

    To be fair she is only following the example set by her campaign manager. If she ran a sensible campaign based around why she would make a good MP it would probably get her in trouble with the Labour hierachy for being out of line with the rest of the party.

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  24. Ryan Sproull (7,136 comments) says:

    @ Ryan you’re being too charitable. Her status was “Dont give them another chance, its not worth the risk”. That’s some finger pointing blame there.

    It’s certainly some dodgy association – putting Key’s face next to things people are emotionally upset about, perhaps hoping that some of it will rub off on him. But she’s not outright blaming him for causing the things: “blew up the Pike River mine, arranged the earthquakes and was the pilot of the Rena.” Just not handling them well afterwards (though how much of that is actually his job…)

    It’s clumsy and foolish, but it’s not an accusation of mass murder.

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  25. garethw (205 comments) says:

    Bang on Ryan. The sign is stupid but I’m sick of people saying that “John Key wasn’t driving the boat” so is above review or criticism. I expect leadership from my Government to respond when crises do occur – and we are all well within our rights to question that response.

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  26. williamsheridan (63 comments) says:

    It’s hate politics levelled at someone the public actually likes… So it will backfire.

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  27. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    It not questioning response Garth, you dick, its politicizing events that no politictian had any control of.

    I’m sick of people going on about their fucking rights.

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  28. gazzaj (99 comments) says:

    There might be something in this…

    Chch Earthquakes 2010/2011 – National Government
    Cave Creek 1995 – National Government
    Erebus 1979 – National Government
    Wahine 1968 – National Government
    Tangiwai 1953 – National Government

    You don’t have to be Nicky Hager to see a pattern here.

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  29. DrDr (114 comments) says:

    It’s silly to blame Key or the Nats for these disasters. One supposes that Ms Rose’s campaign will only end in disaster. A shocking own goal. I can’t see it on her page anymore, but too late as the damage (to her) is done.

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  30. SHG (316 comments) says:

    Looks like the latest own goal has been scored – she’s deleted the post, thereby exacerbating the f*ckup.

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  31. garethw (205 comments) says:

    No politician had control of the political response to a crisis? Righto mate…

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  32. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    She has deleted the post ???? I had better start printing out A1 size posters of it and slapping all over town……

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  33. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    garethw

    Oh I get it, you want Superman as your PM….. Or perhaps if you are a Labour supporter you would like a gender neutral super hero who could swoop in and fix things immediately…..

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  34. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    Actually gazzaj, you would have to be Nicky Hagar to come to any conclusion about those stats….

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  35. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Garth , you dick ,again, we don’t need a political response for everything,

    When ever the going gets a bit tough everybody wants to run off to a politician, the majority of whom are ex teachers and lawyers and unionists and mental defectives.

    Politicians make fuck all difference to anything in reality. And I would be saying exactly the same thing if Goff, Minto or Harawira were Prime Minister.

    WE have become such a weak society that everyones first thought when some thing bad happens, is not how to solve the problem but who to blame. And on Pike River and Christchurch which are genuine tragedies and Rena which is really just a crashed truck on the Desert Road, there is no way to blame the politicians and I hate them but there isn’t.

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  36. East Wellington Superhero (1,151 comments) says:

    The disregard for the actual lives lost in those tragedies is an interesting insight into the mind of Ms Rose.

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  37. garethw (205 comments) says:

    Fine Paul, if you think that a Government has no role to play in the response to an earthquake (not even Civil Defence or temporary housing let alone business or tax support) then fine but the vast majority of people, expect some level of response. Including every MP we have and certainly this Government. Im not necessarily critiscing the response but there sure as hell is a huge range of options for response and we can talk about the choice any Government made. Nothing to do with blame, everything to do with how our politicians choose to solve the problem.

    At least you seem to be getting that it’s about the RESPONSE where you can criticize (indeed you are critical of there being any response at all) unlike idiots like burt who think any criticism of how they respond means you think they should have stopped it in the first place. And of course if Labour had been in power and had to respond to earthquakes or the like then he would have stayed completely silent on how they’d responded. Even if theyd taxed people 70% to pay for it because it wasn’t their fault it happened huh…

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  38. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Garth

    Of course there is a response from govt, god knows there are several hundred govt departments waiting for their day in the sun. But to lay blame at the feet of the Prime Minister, no matter what party is cowardly and cheap politicizing.

    John Key is PM, leads the government full of politicians. They head this massive beauracracy (sic)where supposedly there are the skills and infrastructure to deal with things, these skills etc should have been built up and refined by successive bunches of elected muppets. If this hasn’t been done all enquiries should be directed at why this skill base has not been established and if the set up is incompetent replace it

    Politicians come and go and as much as I like our present PM he will go at some stage , I hope that there are the skills in place so that when tragedy happens a well oiled machine swings into place and the politicians turn up, get photo’s taken, say a few trite words and piss off and let professionals deal with things. Utopia awaits those with faith

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  39. Sofia (857 comments) says:

    No one seems to want to consider whether the fucking sign actually ever existed

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  40. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Obviously it did, even if only in cyberspace Sofia or does that not count?

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  41. seanmaitland (500 comments) says:

    @gazzaj – the only thing I can take from what you posted is that more often than not we have National-led governments in New Zealand?

    Is that what you were meaning?

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  42. awb (304 comments) says:

    Oh FFS Labour, there are so many things that actually are John Key’s fault, and you go and pick the Christchurch earthquake? Why do they have to campaign like such fuckwits? There are some good ideas coming from the left this season, but their delivery of the message has been atrocious.

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  43. Tauhei Notts (1,711 comments) says:

    I think a number of contributors to this blog are overlooking two basic facts.
    1. Everybody has one vote (well two then, if you count the candidate and the party vote).
    2. A huge number of New Zealanders are as thick as pig shit and twice as dangerous.
    Labour’s campaigning is directly targeted at both of those facts, and it is done in a clever manner.
    I was thinking about this earlier this afternoon when I observed the Moroney billboards in Hamilton West. One would need a room temperature intelligence quotient to believe those billboards but, sadly, many voters have that.
    How many female dogs have the animal cunning of the Labour Party strategists?
    On a different subject; have any of you read Stephen Whittington’s brilliant speech at Victoria University of Wellington? What is a pity is that people like him will not be elected to parliament because they are not adorned with the blessing of “smile and wave”.

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  44. Nick C (336 comments) says:

    Tauhei Notts: I agree, it was a very good speech.

    Anyone who hasn’t read or seen it can find it here: http://www.act.org.nz/posts/thirteen-years-of-broken-promises

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  45. polemic (460 comments) says:

    What would have happened if National had produced a billboard last election that said 3 strikes and your out
    - Paintergate.
    - Pledgegate.
    - Speedinggate.

    Oh thats right they were things she (helengrad) did control so they dont count.
    Well come one, did she or did she not? vs Did he or did he not??

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  46. Nick K (1,243 comments) says:

    I feel it’s worth noting that the New Zealand first candidate appeared to endorse the post and Christine’s comments.

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  47. geo_kiwi (43 comments) says:

    No. John Key didn’t do any of what the billboard said, but he did:

    1) Have an interview with a BBC journo named Stephen Sackur who pointed out that 90% New Zealands low land rivers are polluted, as are about half of our lakes. He cited research from NIWA.

    Key’s response was to say he would hate to get into a spat with the academic who backed the research, Mike Joy, but it was “his view”.

    Umm. Actually John Key, NIWA came up with the stats, and NIWA is a Government Crown Research Institute.

    2) Back Rodney Hide to sack a democratically elected Regional Council (Environment Canterbury)and replace it with Commissioners. Whilst there were some definite wrongdoings by the elected council, the intended outcome is not a fit for purpose review of ECan, but a turning of the organisation into some sort of water body that calls the Governments shots on fresh water.

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  48. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    A bloody disgrace – but why should we be surprised? This is just another example of Labour demonstrating their “right to govern” ethos.

    A new nadir for Labour. Supported in their latest Morgan polling results.

    EPIC FAIL.

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  49. Rich Prick (1,700 comments) says:

    This is disgusting, but lets play the game (as filthy as it makes me feel):

    9/11: Helen Clark and Labour 3,200 dead
    Indian Ocean Tsunami: Helen Clark and Labour 350,000 dead
    Pacific Tsunami: fucking Helen Clark and Labour again at 1,300 dead

    Fuck, Labour have a lot to answer for, by their own advertising standards.

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  50. Mick Mac (1,091 comments) says:

    TN
    2. A huge number of New Zealanders are as thick as pig shit and twice as dangerous.
    Labour’s campaigning is directly targeted at both of those facts, and it is done in a clever manner.
    I was thinking about this earlier this afternoon when I observed the Moroney billboards in Hamilton West. One would need a room temperature intelligence quotient to believe those billboards but, sadly, many voters have that.

    This sadly is the problem for NZ ever getting ahead as a country.
    many of them have degrees and are educated too, that they forget all Labour did in power and would vote for them again is frightening.
    Failing that their mates The Watermelons, the thinking man’s Labour party.

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  51. awb (304 comments) says:

    Mick Mac – Yep, the Greens are for thinking voters, you are absolutely right. When you want to vote based on who has the smiliest face, National is just the ticket.

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  52. Other_Andy (2,676 comments) says:

    Christine Rose…
    This is the same person who violated both the ‘Electoral (Advertisements of a Specified Kind) Regulations 2005 bylaw’ and the ‘Rodney District Council General Bylaw: 1998′ by getting her election hoardings up before they were allowed.
    Of course the Auckland City Council has (while receiving complaints) not acted on this.
    She has shown she does not like to ‘play by the rules’ by breaking the law.
    Nothing new from Labour.

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  53. freddos (54 comments) says:

    Remember when Phil Goff bumped Julia Gillard from speaking at the Christchurch memorial service so that he could politicise it? This is the kind of thinking coming from the hierarchy of Labour so its hardly suprising the plebs are bringing out non-sensical “jokes” like this.

    Goff’s disaster response tends to be sound bites and photo ops – I’m not saying National has been perfect at all but I don’t think you’re average punter has been convinced Goff would have handled things any better.

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  54. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Pike River…a National govt disestablished the Mines Inspectorate.
    ChCh earthquakes …National supporters have supported and encouraged the irrigation of the Canterbury Plains; the effect on the water table has not been discounted by engineers as at least a contributory cause.
    Someone else mentions the water Commissioners..We in CHCh city are now on water restrictions at the same time as three dairy farms on the outskirts of town use the same amount of water as the whole city everyday. An onion farmer was recently prosecuted for stealing water..we are still waiting to hear this happen to a dairy farmer..City gardeners fear the day when they will not be able to grow anything in what once was a lush paradise..Who was it who said ”wars will be fought over water?”
    Brownlee has squandered several million in poorly executed ideas since the quake,..An employment Board is about to go on an overseas jaunt looking for new migrants..to SA, London , Manchester and Canada even tho we have unemployed engineers in CHCh , migrants of perhaps the wrong hue , and many older men desperate for work.. Why bring in all these new people when the country has so many unemployed??..Records show Irish immigrants don’t stay long. Oh and the looting..most CHCh residents know who did most of this..they were people in authority..No wonder the Press photographers were not allowed in to record their own citiy’s history.
    The Rena…. It was a National govt which changed the legislation which allowed this rust bucket into our waters…Maurice Williamson was part of this govt. The Rena is only the tip of the iceberg..plenty more rust buckets out there.
    Steven Joyce screwed up in neglecting to sign the convention which would have given NZ twice as much compo.
    Why is MSCompany allowed to operate here?..My relation has used them in the past but will never use them again.

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  55. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    joana.

    My god, you’re reaching here.

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  56. Manolo (13,755 comments) says:

    Dismal tactics from the socialists, who totally bereft of ideas have to resort to desperate stunts.

    Jona, you should have a double dose of Prozac with your morning coffee before writing.

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  57. kiwi in america (2,449 comments) says:

    joana
    A masterpiece of left wing conspiracy theories.

    Labour had 9 years to restore the Mines Inspectorate and did nothing.

    It was the left leaning Environment Canterbury who actually authorised the additional irrigation which you have spuriously and tendentiously linked to the earthquakes. Your description of Brownlee’s efforts entirely miss the many good things that he and CERA have tried to do and reads like a breathless press release from Leanne Dalziel’s office.

    Same on the Rena. If coastal shipping deregulation was to blame (which it wasn’t) then again Labour had 9 years to re-regulate and did nothing. I wonder why. All the unions are now proposing is that a NZ union pilot be on the bridge. That didn’t prevent the Mikail Lermantov running aground in the Marlborough Sounds.

    Just admit it, you’re clutching at straws.

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  58. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    > he also blew up the Pike River mine, arranged the earthquakes and was the pilot of the Rena.

    How are those straw men you like inventing, David? Surely someone of your intelligence can actually debate the issues rather than resort to silly lines like the one above?

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  59. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    @ KiA; when Winston Peters is languishing at 2% in the latest Roy Morgan poll, his devotees will be pulling out all stops to get him a job.

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  60. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    > You don’t have to be Nicky Hager to see a pattern here.

    You mean, God isn’t a National voter?

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  61. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    “I expect leadership from my Government to respond when crises do occur – and we are all well within our rights to question that response.”

    That’s correct. David of course knows that, but he thought he would take (another) cheap shot at Labour because he has nothing positive to say about National.

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  62. Lance (2,655 comments) says:

    @ross
    OK Labour has criticized JK for not doing enough in the Rena disaster.

    What would Labour have done different?
    Based on history Helun would have back stabbed those moving heaven and earth to effect an action then talk pure shit for the benefit of the mindless who actually believe a politician can overcome physics and reality.

    I suspect people are sick of that kind bullshit and appreciate a little honesty for a change

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  63. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    @Inventory2 says: “….when Winston Peters is languishing at 2% in the latest Roy Morgan poll, his devotees will be pulling out all stops to get him a job.”

    Yup – its safe assume that the pensioner from St Mary’s Bay will soon announce something outrageous in order to try and make himself appear relevant to the electorate.

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  64. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    The arrest of May Wang yesterday gives him a window for some more anti-Asian rhetoric. Does anyone else remember the “rows of ostentatious houses” speech from the early 90’s?

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  65. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    A huge number of New Zealanders are as thick as pig shit and twice as dangerous.

    And that is the problem. National will win this time. But sooner or later they will lose, and Labour will be back in, radically increasing the size and power of the state, all for “our own good” of course.

    If you give people free and unearned universal suffrage they will vote themselves free bread. If you give women the vote, they will generally vote for the party offering the most state welfare.

    We need to return to a limited democracy. Restrict the voting age to males 30 and over, and only to those males who have either served in the armed forces for at least six years or started and run their own business for at least six years.

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  66. Black with a Vengeance (1,861 comments) says:

    ooooh she facebooked a shopped pic…NOT FIT FOR GOVERNMENT !!!

    Never mind that Team blue is in no position to claim any of your lot are fit to govern when you got chumps like English, Brownlee, Tolley, Bennett, Heatley and Key fucking up everything they touch.

    hahaha…get a grip ya grumpy ol bunch of sour faces.

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  67. Vinick (216 comments) says:

    joana said:
    “ChCh earthquakes …National supporters have supported and encouraged the irrigation of the Canterbury Plains; the effect on the water table has not been discounted by engineers as at least a contributory cause.”

    Anyone who thinks Kerry Burke is a National supporter needs their f*cking head read.

    Also, engineers have not discounted the Mid Canterbury panther as a “contributory cause” of the earthquakes (http://www.ashburtonguardian.co.nz/news/ashburton-news/987-bid-to-capture-black-panther.html)

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  68. william blake (109 comments) says:

    nice repost thanks

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  69. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    Well the people who put this together maybe a bit crazy – but of all there stupid efforts of late, this one might be the only one that gets some traction.

    I personally think National missed the bus on Chch as there was a positive mood for a surcharge for several years to help pay for the Chch cleanup.
    And the delay in PR for the Rena have been just bad. The media are much to blame (like blaming the MSC – which is plain dumb – thats like saying that if I get a taxi to take a parcel across town, that i would be liable for whatever the taxi did – just stupid) – but the Government have been very backward in taking apparent control of the situation.

    National are suffering from a syndrome of some sort – they wont do anything bold or take strong leadership positions. i do think they are sleepwalking.

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  70. Ross12 (1,425 comments) says:

    I would turn the implication of this photo around and say if JK is capable of causing /controlling these disasters he must be a superman and as such is just the person we need as PM.

    I disagree with Tauhui Notts and think the average Kiwi is not that stupid and especially in the case of the Rena disaster they know it was nothing to do with the Govt. ( or any political party ). I also think they can see through all the political posturing and just want to see the job done to clear up the problem.( NB how quite the arm chaier expert Norman has gone recent days as he sees how difficult the job actually is.)

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  71. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Penny Bright is her campaign manager?

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  72. annie (539 comments) says:

    Couldn’t Labour at least pretend to have some dignity? Or judgement? Intelligence? Decency?

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  73. corner-shop...not (16 comments) says:

    What a total scumbag, politicising the lives lost in these incidents is appauling enough, but trying to do it using humour?? f8king pathetic but hardly surprising from that lot.

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  74. geo_kiwi (43 comments) says:

    When Nick Smith slammed Environment Canterbury, he made a number of claims. Some were true, but some were flat out lies. Smith and Hide also decided that they were not going to talk to all Environment Canterbury staff who could give reliable testimony about the true state of affairs.

    There are a couple of significant claims that I want to point out right now were lies:

    1) Smith claimed no plan had been written for the sustainable management of the Waitaki River. WRONG.

    A plan was written by the planning section and sent to the council for approval. They turned it down.

    2) Environment Canterbury had a really poor record handling resource consents, and that only a few of them were processed in the 20 working day statutory limit. It was true at the time it was made, but not by the time the Commissioners arrived.

    Environment Canterbury Consents staff made a remarkable turn around from processing about 30% in the required timeframe to processing over 80% by the time the Commissioners arrived.

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  75. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    Environment Canterbury had to go. The name change itself was enough reason. The truth is that it was just another bunch of ego driven urban latte liberal busybodies trying to run other peoples lives and foisting radical environmentalist chic on the region. It did not represent Canterbury as a whole, not even close.

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  76. RJL (146 comments) says:

    Contrary to those posting here, the author of the facebook post does have some faith in the intelligence of the NZ voter.

    No reasonable person would read the image as suggesting that Key was responsible for the occurance of these events.

    However, the image is suggesting, rightly, that Key and his government is 100% responsible for the government’s response to these events. Which is generally extremely poor. This is not politicising the events. This is holding the party in office responsible for what it does. This is what voters should be making their support decisions on.

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  77. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    No reasonable person would read the image as suggesting that Key was responsible for the occurance of these events.

    What makes you think Labour voters are reasonable?

    However, the image is suggesting, rightly, that Key and his government is 100% responsible for the government’s response to these events. Which is generally extremely poor.

    Bollocks.

    Hindsight is a very conveniant weapon when your as far behind in the polls as Labour is. The truth is that when faced with major disasters, they test any government. I do not think this governments response has been as bad as people like you claim, or for that matter, bad at all. And I see no evidence that the response would have been any different under Labour.

    Its just dishonest gutter politics on Labours part, and people ARE intelligent enough to see through that. The polls are the proof.

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  78. dion (95 comments) says:

    polemic – not to mention Doonegate, Eringate, Fieldgate, Duckgate and Piss in a hotel hallway-gate if you cast the net a little wider.

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