Well done the French

October 23rd, 2011 at 10:52 pm by David Farrar

Well the are the world champions by 8 points to 7. Let the celebrations begin!!!!

But full credit to the French who played a magnificent game, and performed so very very well that they must be gutted not to have won, but should be proud of their play.

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42 Responses to “Well done the French”

  1. MT_Tinman (3,091 comments) says:

    I agree, well played France and well played the All Blacks who don’t represent the Zephyrs (Mr Smith excluded), you overcame amazing handicaps to win when it counted.

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  2. scrubone (3,090 comments) says:

    Yes, well done the French. Played very well in the second half – really put the ABs to shame.

    But one point’s all it takes.

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  3. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Wow- Amazing to hear that from an All Black supporter! (They’re not famous for giving the opposition credit)

    Good, tough final that could have gone either way….

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  4. plebe (271 comments) says:

    4 more years and the stress starts again, god i hope im still here to shout again, GO THE BLACKS

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  5. adze (2,046 comments) says:

    Jeez that was too much for my nerves. By golly the French played a good game tonight; I knew they would, but I wasn’t expecting it to be that close!

    The French captain certainly deserved man of the match.

    Woohoo!!

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  6. Scott Chris (6,008 comments) says:

    Oui, c’est une mesure de la haute estime que les Français ont pour les All Blacks qu’ils sont capables de se lever alors quand nous de jouer.

    Merci pour avoir été adversaires dignes.

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  7. Tauhei Notts (1,672 comments) says:

    Interesting phone call from the daughter in Barcelona.
    “Dad, we were watching it at a bar here, and it was full of arrogant aggressive French bastards; these fellows are the ugly side of French rugby. Not like the men in Paris, the rugby players with whom I could argue the merits or otherwise of Guy De Maupassant writings.
    “Dad, we had to leave the bar as I am sure that Harrison (boyfriend from Hamilton) would have got his head shoved in.”
    ” But darling, I would have loved to have been there to stick it up their Gallic throats.” After all, en Francais, all I know is “”Je ne pense qu’a ca””
    “Dad, these ugly bastards would have chewn you up and spat you out at my feet.”

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  8. Aredhel777 (286 comments) says:

    Really nice to see you give the French some credit DPF. It was a real nailbiter, right up to the last second. The French played their hearts out.

    But GO NEW ZEALAND!!

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  9. wreck1080 (3,852 comments) says:

    stuff the french, WELL DONE THE ALL BLACKS….

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  10. dime (9,782 comments) says:

    woo hooooooooooooooooooooooo

    stoked for stephen donald. stoked for all of them.

    the french were brutal!! well played by them.

    read – great aucklander! HUGE game

    Kaino to take player of the year at the awards tomorrow.

    Brilliant.

    Thanks Mr Henry :)

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  11. Tookinator (219 comments) says:

    Richie will be happy as if he lost he was going to be tazered wasn’t he?

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  12. The Scorned (719 comments) says:

    Suck on that you cowardly bastards at Dunkirk….suck my anglo balls bastards ha ha ha!

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  13. The Scorned (719 comments) says:

    Ok….not wanting to be a wanker about it….but God are we due a little relief and fist pumping after all the shit we have endured…its OUR time in the World cup sun….yes!

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  14. The Scorned (719 comments) says:

    And Stephen Donald….?….you are the boyhood dream made flesh….kia kaha bro….well done!

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  15. dhsmith (6 comments) says:

    yawnnnn……who really cares…except for a bunch of navel gazing kiwis.

    The rugby world cup is a piddling event and our national obsession with this game is rather embarrassing.

    Not much more than 33 million watched the game today —-less than the audience for your average English Premiership game.

    RWC —utter waste of money to keep the plebs distracted from the issues that matter.

    Here is an honest debunking of some of the hype that has surrounded the RWC

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/michael-burgess/news/article.cfm?a_id=701&objectid=10761073

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  16. Pete George (23,415 comments) says:

    Ugly game, beautiful result.

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  17. Bogusnews (475 comments) says:

    Indeed. It would have been a travesty if the French had won. The ABs have played the best rugby for the last couple of years and played the best rugby for the whole tournament. Obviously though the frogs played a similar way to when they bundled us out in 2007. Good work boys, result well deserved.

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  18. jaba (2,117 comments) says:

    I will repeat what I just said at Keeping Stock:
    it was always my hope that Beaver Donald would take the field and score a try or kick the goal to win the cup.
    This really nice guy now leaves our shores to England, head held high as a world champ

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  19. Inventory2 (10,244 comments) says:

    Anyone seen Big Bruv in the last week? He was so looking forward to gloating about another semi-final choke…

    Graham Henry said at the start of the season that the All Blacks had to learn how to win ugly. On the basis of what we saw last night, he’s a bloody good teacher. If he wants another term as coach, he’s first in the queue; why not create a dynasty?

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  20. Pete George (23,415 comments) says:

    jaba – that was one of the highlights of the game for me, Steven Donald really proved something. And the All Blacks proved they could win with just about any first five and didn’t totally depend on Carter.

    One disappointment – and totally predictable – was how Weepu’s form waned. Far too much hype and putting him on a pedastal.

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  21. slightlyrighty (2,505 comments) says:

    That was the longest 2 hours of my life!

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  22. Pita (373 comments) says:

    “Full credit to the French” Straight out of the Sean Fitzpatrick lexicon of rugby cliches

    The All Blacks on the other hand knew what they had to do, played well on the wings, quick hands all round, dug deep and came away with the result.

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  23. kaykaybee (153 comments) says:

    slightlyrightly – mine too.

    At our party we all needed a blood pressure tab in our celebratory champers….but credit where it’s due – well done ABs!

    The only unbeaten team in the tournament – Ted, Richie and the boys pulled out a win despite having to dig into the third tier ranks for replacements and despite the French playing as though their lives depended on it.

    NEW ZEALAND – WORLD CUP HOLDERS – AWESOME..

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  24. Inventory2 (10,244 comments) says:

    Quite so kaykaybee – look at the final results:

    4th: Wales – Played 7; won four; lost three
    3rd: Australia – Played 7; won five; lost two
    2nd: France – Played 7; won four; lost three
    World Champions: New Zealand – Played 7; won seven

    Take a bow All Blacks; it’s been an unforgettable six weeks.

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  25. Brian Smaller (4,036 comments) says:

    Have to disagree with @Bogusnews. It would not have been a travesty if the French won but a triumph of the underdog team. Written off by everybody. We played some dodgy footy and the French capitalised. They went so close. They showed they deserved to be there in the final. I felt sorry for them, and elated for NZ. No bonus points in final footy though so 1pt was good enough for me.

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  26. Nigel Kearney (955 comments) says:

    Now would be a good time to stop caring so much about the World Cup. Having to win three straight games against strong opponents makes it a lottery and you can’t expect the best team to usually win. We didn’t ‘choke’ five straight times. What happened is that we had the best team but the structure of the event meant we were defeated by the laws of probability as much as by the opponents.

    Instead, lets get behind the tri-nations (now four nations). It has all the top teams in the world and is a much reliable test of which team is the best. We’ve won it 10 out of 16 times but still need to try to improve on that.

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  27. Mary Rose (393 comments) says:

    >The Scorned (37) Says:
    Suck on that you cowardly bastards at Dunkirk….

    What has Dunkirk got to do with anything at all? (I’m guessing you don’t mean the French view that the British betrayed them and ran away?)
    We won – just. France lost. No need to rub anything in beyond that.

    >dhsmith(1)
    yawnnnn……who really cares…except for a bunch of navel gazing kiwis.

    If you don’t care, why did you go to all the effort of signing up to post on a thread about it?

    If you don’t like it, ignore it and allow those who do to enjoy the result.
    Each to his own, eh?

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  28. gump (1,600 comments) says:

    Somebody needs to send Piri Weepu to the glue factory.

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  29. kiwi in america (2,494 comments) says:

    France came to play RWC finals footy and almost made it. My prediction was way off and in many ways it was a good thing as the media were silly in writing off the French – they have provided so many high level upsets that we all should’ve known better so I’ll admit to being carried away by the hype.

    In the aftermath of such a stressful and ugly win its easy to downplay the All Blacks achievement yesterday. Crucial elements leading to the victory to me were:
    1 – We absorbed an initial French onslaught well – they never really threatened the line in the 1st 15. That gave the team the belief that they could indeed take anything the French could throw at them.
    2 – The ABs applied consistent pressure in the 2nd 1/2 of the 1st half and the try was the reward.
    3 – The ABs absorbed the pressure of losing Carter who is almost always a game changer, then Slade and then Crouden. It wasn’t just that Donald stepped up, its that unlike Cardiff when Carter went off, the rest of the team held it together and didnt fall to pieces.
    4 – Henry made substitutions at exactly the right moments: Weepu was not having his best game and his failure to kick goals in such a high pressure environment was demoralizing. His passes lacked crispness and he seemed rattled and Ellis’ entry into the game improved the flow of the ball to the backs and resulted in fewer panicked kicks from the base of the scrum. Likewise Hore steadied the lineout after some shakey throws from Mealamu. These changes helped the rest of the team to dig in and tough it out – they were in the end crucial.
    5 – Trinh Duc’s breakaway that led to Dusautoir’s try came off Weepu’s stupid lazy little kick away. Whilst the French had indeed been applying enormous pressure, our defense was holding so to some extent their try was a little soft and opportunistic.
    6 – The ABs superior physical conditioning showed as the same playing team who played with such intensity for the full 80 mins against Australia had to step that intensity up 2 notches against the French just 1 week later. That is not easy to do. Whilst the French’s game against Wales was no picnic it was not as intense as our Wallabies game so the French went into the final slightly less battered.
    7 – Finally and most importantly – the All Blacks weathered 16 phases of aggressive French attacking play in the last 10 minutes all within their own half and most of it within the outer range of Yachvili’s boot. The enormous discipline they showed in not giving up any penalties in that and other crucial phases was the winning edge IMO.

    Choking is about losing the mental battle and this hard fought victory was won in the minds of most of the key players who were able to summon that last ounce of strength and courage to fight and hold.

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  30. Tauhei Notts (1,672 comments) says:

    Kiwi in America;
    Did you, like one of my daughters (in San Fran), have to pay USD30 to watch the game on cable?
    At a drunken “do” on Saturday night I offered a mate 20 points in if he would take the Frogs. Give me 25 points in and I’m good for a hundred, was his response. You’re too greedy I replied. Isn’t incredible how cocky we were?

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  31. kiwi in america (2,494 comments) says:

    It was USD$18 and we watched it at a mate’s so he paid although we paid for the food and drink. Actually I found an Indian (dot not feather) cable sports channel that broadcast the NZ coverage live on the internet at vipstand.com. The picture quality was OK and I never had buffering issues so I watched some of the pool games and the non ABs quarters and semis on line. We watched all the kiwi games as a group of expat players, touch players, coaches and refs – was heaps of fun but nothing like being back home!

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  32. Pharmachick (232 comments) says:

    Just. YAY.

    That game was so hard to watch!! My house looks like downtown Baghdad this morning.

    Tauhei and KIA,
    DirecTV had it for $USD 14.99/game (HD, its $12.99 for standard) but there were several streaming sites too.

    We watched all the games at our house with 2 dozen of our closest expat friends (expat from about 6-8 countries too).

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  33. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    I had the All Blacks beating the French by 22 points.. Those French ahhh where did that come from..
    a wins a win.. what a nail biter. I’m still in a state flux.

    I also have National winning the election in a landslide.. Labour unlike the French are very predictable.

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  34. Brian Smaller (4,036 comments) says:

    Suck on that you cowardly bastards at Dunkirk….suck my anglo balls bastards ha ha ha!

    That shows a real misunderstanding of history. The French at Lille held up seven German divisions which stopped them being used in the assualt on the Dunkirk perimeter. At Dunkirk itself the French held the line as the last British divisions were evacuated – sacrificing themselves so that the Brits adn their own comrades could escape. There was no cowardice at Dunkirk on any side. Read some history anus-brain.

    The score was 8-7, not a 20 point thrashing, so at the game there was also no cowardice shown. The French passion and assault on the ABs made the victory even better than if we gave them a hiding.

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  35. Robinson 666 (115 comments) says:

    Nice move by Richie Mcaw to smash the dangerous French No 10 in the head to remove him from the game early! Do what it takes to win boys!

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  36. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    Was at the game. Loved it. We had a ‘guess the score’ in the box and no-one picked the French. Most scores were 15+ points to the ABs. My own prediction was 23-11. Little did we know.

    The mood was set when the French formed their ‘V’ in front of the haka and advanced on the AB’s. But it quickly became apparent that the ABs were not firing on all cylinders, as many of the little things that were happening like clockwork in earlier games, just weren’t working on the night – inaccurate lineout throws / tackles being missed / poor options being taken etc. Not sure whether the All Blacks were still suffering from the hangover of the Australian result, or they had been reading the media all week, or had allowed the pressure of expectation to get to them, but they were not as clinical as expected. The three missed kicks would have / could have changed the course of the second half – in fact, the ABs could have led 13-0 at half time.

    There was a palpable mood change at the ground when Cruden went off and Donald came on. Most Kiwis whispered ‘Oh shit’ when he came onto the field. Were we going to see another ‘Hong Kong’ performance from him? When he stepped up to kick from 37 metres out and in front, the crowd hushed as there was a genuine fear (around us, anyway) that he would cock it up. But he didn’t and everyone breathed again. The final minutes of the game were a demonstration of pure guts by an All Black team who feared losing more then the French wanted to win.

    Presentation of the medals & the Webb Ellis Cup was brilliant and the leftards will HATE the fact that John Key received a massive cheer from the 61,000 present when he was introduced alongside Bernard Lapasset. Much hilarity.

    Big celebrations at the ground – prompted by sheer relief. We ended up heading to the Heritage Hotel and celebrated some more. No smelly hippies there either – the drinks couldn’t be charged to the taxpayer! The mood of everyone around was fantastic. Ended up getting back to the eastern suburbs around 4am.

    I’ve just rinsed the moths from my mouth with a nice coffee. Brunch soon so we can all go to the parade this afternoon.

    Well done the All Blacks.

    Fan – bloody – tastic.

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  37. niggly (813 comments) says:

    Well done AB’s and Henry!

    AB’s dominated early on (but didn’t seem to pass out wide as much as the French did, wonder if they had would the extra pressure applied to the Fench see them crack as the French were under tremedous pressure during the initial AB onslaught & then try)?

    Weepu was fanastic at kicking the ball towards touch (and hence gave the AB’s plenty of opportunities to apply further heat on the French in their territory) but I wonder if Cruden should have been given the task of kicking the penalties? If Cruden had managed to rack up a few points it would have lifted AB morale and been utterly demoralising for the French, seeing they got so close. Anyway it wasn’t to be (and both no 10’s taken out!!??!!). And instead the French starting winning possesion from a period of dominating the line outs saw their game lift and gave the AB’s some nervous moments!

    Sure the French came close, but the score could have, many-a-time seen the AB’s further in the lead, therefore a well deserved win to the AB’s & for maintaining control again to the nail biting end!

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  38. Brian Smaller (4,036 comments) says:

    Robinson 666 – that was an accident, and not intentional. He was trying to get his hands on the ball and caught Parra with a glancing blow with his knee which replays showed did not take a quick little deviation to connect with the Frenchman’s head. McCaw was almost knocked senseless by a tackle later in the game – he looked concussed. Conrad Smith likewise came off second best after one tackle. The game was played in pretty good spirit given the passion and emotions on both sides.

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  39. Dazzaman (1,133 comments) says:

    Yeah the Parra blow was definitely accidental. If you’ve played a bit of footie, you know what’s accidental. Usually the accidental collisions end up with the worst results injury-wise.

    Joubert had to let the game go a bit and only whistled the obvious, if he’d got nitpicky there would have been no game at all, just a procession from set piece to set piece. He did well & was straight down the line IMHO.

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  40. kiwi in america (2,494 comments) says:

    As a ref Dazzman I totally agree. Imagine if Nigel Owens had reffed this game – I’m sure the Northern Hemisphere ref purists would stroke their chins in satisfaction as every tiny infringement is blown up (as happens here in the US because the refs here follow the European playing and reffing style). Its interesting to read the French media commentary of the game and a few whinging Pommie writers about the reffing. All they can come up with is the Parra incident and a punch that Weepu supposedly threw that Joubert didnt blow up. I get players coming up to me in games all the time telling me about people who supposedly punched them and I say two things – 1st I dont have the luxury of 10 cameras and a TMO like the professional or international games have and 2nd, go play soccer if you dont want to get roughed up on the odd occasio!. If I see an infringement (or the touch judge/AR) sees it I’ll act otherwise I do as Joubert did, let the game flow.

    The relief in this titanic rugby equivalent of the battle of the Somme is that the ref didn’t influence the outcome of the game – unlike Barnes in Cardiff.

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  41. Pharmachick (232 comments) says:

    KIA,
    well said RE: US refereeing.
    I’ve not worked at a College (or otherwise) where there is a strong Rugby team … but lived just over the hill from Cal when they were national college champions. (Of course the shame of that is that in the last couple of years since UC system has been in trouble they cut Rugby at Cal (WTF)… not to worry I am sure that BYU and a few East coast schools will lead the way.
    If you are truly coaching and refereeing stateside, then Good Luck!!!!

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  42. kiwi in america (2,494 comments) says:

    Pharmachick
    I truly am – in AZ. I know David Smyth the BYU Rugby coach and his assistants well plus a few of the players. My NZ business partner and I sponsor one of the current top players who is a Maori boy studying at BYU. College level refereeing is a little better – there’s the odd good ref (usually an expat). Cal of course are traditional rivals to BYU and run a very strong program. Know some Tongan boys I helped coach (I assistant coach a U19 team) who wanted to go there but grades were always an issue.

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