Even the neo-nazis are deserting NZ First

November 24th, 2011 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

I blogged yesterday how the of the had blogged urging people to vote for NZ First.

They seem to have had a fall off in support, as they have now edited their blog post, Pete George pointed out in a comment:

“In this country we must vote for the smaller parties…” replaces “If you want traditional Kiwi life vote NZ First.”

Hat Tip: Keeping Stock

 

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27 Responses to “Even the neo-nazis are deserting NZ First”

  1. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Well no doubt its difficult to maintain your focus when your brains and reproductive organs are that tiny.

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  2. immigant (950 comments) says:

    Seig Fail!!!

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  3. Keeping Stock (10,428 comments) says:

    You just can’t make this kind of sh*t up!

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  4. 3-coil (1,222 comments) says:

    Are these the same balaclava-clad NZ First supporters who dropped in on the Meet the Candidates meeting in Christchurch a few nights back?

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  5. Peter (1,723 comments) says:

    I don’t think it’s fair that you keep picking on a group of repressed homosexuals, DPF.

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  6. hj (7,066 comments) says:

    You are really scared of Winston why?
    One possible reason is that while the NZ economy has grown on increased agricultural production we now grow by importing buyers for homes (ie pro immigration policies) NZ First is the only party that questions the benefits of mass immigration.

    Green Party:
    http://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/greens-counter-peters-welcoming-immigration-policy

    Labour

    “It looks like the Government are set to loosen the immigration laws which will allow people to come into the country even if they cannot speak English – as long as they have plenty of cash.

    The theory is that the influx of non-English speaking rich foreigners will be beneficial to the economy.

    This theory however was completely demolished in April in a report from a Massy University economist, Dr Greg Clydesdale.

    While Immigration Minister David Cunliffe thinks that more immigration is a ‘must for economic growth’, Clydesdale commented that ‘claims that immigrants improve the economy, introduce new techniques and grow the business sector are being exaggerated..There is often no economic evidence to support the claims made.’

    Clydesdale pointed out that the Government’s own figures showed that only 2 percent of new immigrants introduced new technology.

    He said that many new arrivals under the business, investment and entrepreneurial categories brought existing buSinesses such as restaurants, cafes and takeaways.’

    ‘There is little new activity. there’s no added value, it’s just a change of ownership,’ said Clydesdale.”
    http://nzagainstthecurrent.blogspot.com/2007/06/immigration-policy-goverment-ignores.html

    (This ) Government policies blamed for house prices
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/4622459/Government-policies-blamed-for-house-prices

    There is a gap in the market for a party that protects the quality of life for the average New zealander.

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  7. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    No one is scared of this hazbeen lying assed political zombie hj. Get a grip.

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  8. hj (7,066 comments) says:

    “No one is scared of this hazbeen lying assed political zombie hj. Get a grip.”
    ====
    Ah yes the old folk of Aotearoa (the ones who fed the hens) are dying off and the next generation wont know any different…. good trick dirt bags!

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  9. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    WTF is this aotearoa you speak of, there is no such country, never has been, never will be.

    There’s some geography that was called that by a handful of people a long time ago, but there’s enver been a nation of that name. Apprently you operate in an alternate universe.

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  10. hj (7,066 comments) says:

    What does National say about this?:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/4622459/Government-policies-blamed-for-house-prices

    Oh I know: House prices are high due to greenies imposing urban limits and interferring with the free market.

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  11. tankyman (116 comments) says:

    Google cache never forgets – here is the original text with the racist endorsing Winston first : http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2cxd14&s=5

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  12. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    immigant

    :)

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  13. Ross Miller (1,706 comments) says:

    It was said in another forum that these supporters of Winston First are “a pathetic bunch of toser, make-believe, tow-rags, running around in cast off military clothing. Hazard a guess and most of them would have small dicks, dirty finger nails and bad breath … and that’s just the females”.

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  14. hj (7,066 comments) says:

    Meanwhile the National Party released its immigration policy. You may wonder what this means for the property market. It is clear from research that immigration is one of the key drivers of house price growth.

    The logic is simple. If you import more people into the country, then you need more houses. Supply and demand means that prices are then pushed up, this is particularly so in Auckland.

    While the latest immigration numbers show the number of people coming into New Zealand is starting to rise, the Nat’s policy looks like it wants to increase immigration levels even further. (Although it is unclear what sort of number they are targeting.)
    This policy is, arguably, a plus for people who want house prices to rise. (But may be not so good for first home owners wanting to buy.)

    My guess has always been that property investors lean heavily towards the right rather than the left. (This was made clear in an email newsletter I saw from one developer this week.)
    http://www.landlords.co.nz/blog/heat-rising-in-housing-policy

    John Key is to the real estate industry what Spot was to telecom.

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  15. hj (7,066 comments) says:

    The International Monetary Fund is advising the government to widen New Zealand’s tax base for capital gains and to introduce a land tax.
    http://www.interest.co.nz/news/52737/imf-recommends-govt-broaden-capital-gains-tax-base-and-introduce-land-tax-your-view

    Outraged developers in Queenstown have blasted a proposal before the Government suggesting radical changes to the tax system.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/3248188/Developers-slam-land-tax-proposal

    and Nationals policy is….?????????

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  16. Ross Miller (1,706 comments) says:

    David … doesn’t hj deserve demits for threadjacking?

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  17. hj (7,066 comments) says:

    David … doesn’t hj deserve demits for threadjacking ?
    [hj should be given a minty for livening up Harcourts Blog]
    ……
    Well no because I’m arguing that NZ First represents a threat to the status quo. National sees Winston as a big hairy spider. Imagine Winston in parliament attacking National on the link between house prices, immigration and developer levies or the foreshore and seabed. Unlike Act NZ First represents the general population.

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  18. adze (2,129 comments) says:

    Hj, Winston is a threat to the integrity of government and arguably to our democratic process. He breaks key election promises (ie. BIG ones, like campaigning on removing National from government, only to go into coalition with them; then campaigning on not seeking the baubles of office, only to become Foreign Minister “outside of cabinet”). Now we are supposed to believe he won’t go into a coalition agreement with anyone? He represents few except a proportion of senior citizens, and xenophobes.

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  19. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    good posts hj..a refreshing change from those who only seem to know how to attack people.

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  20. polemic (460 comments) says:

    The reason people want to go to Australia is because it offers more. It allows you to get ahead faster.

    The benefit of increasing immigration into a vastly under populated country like NZ has been well proven by statisticians and demographers to be a clear economic advantage.(As long as they can speak English)

    You only need to study the US and see how it grew in the early to mid-1900’s and exponentially prospered as a direct result of immigration.

    To have a policy that directly holds back the growth of a nation like NZ First is proposing is directly hurting all the Kiwis that want to get ahead and by definition it is openly increasing the Australian Exodus because it is keeping NZ economic brakes on.

    Now all you chaps that support Winston- tell me why a vote for Winston is not a complete waste

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  21. Liberty (271 comments) says:

    Hj
    NZF is a joke its only support a few deluded olds. And losers
    http://rwrnz.blogspot.com/2011/11/elections.html
    “Don’t make the mistake to vote for anything but MMP … If you want
    traditional Kiwi life vote NZ First”
    Has now been changed to
    get blue and red out. In this country we must vote for the smaller parties…

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  22. hj (7,066 comments) says:

    Hj
    NZF is a joke its only support a few deluded olds. And losers
    ==============
    You don’t see the capturing of capital gains in land as a serious issue affecting the (many) losers????

    You don’t see population as an issue, and you perhaps see the earths ecology as a subset of the human economy?

    http://dicksmithpopulation.com/

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  23. hj (7,066 comments) says:

    “The benefit of increasing immigration into a vastly under populated country like NZ has been well proven by statisticians and demographers to be a clear economic advantage.(As long as they can speak English)”
    ====
    No it hasn’t. Some economists are for it (especially those who work for banks) and some don”t.

    The Savings Working Group report blames large immigration swings for increased house prices and claim that it hasn’t increased incomes (in fact the reverse as we have had to build schools and provide infrastructure).

    “underpopulated” compared to what?
    The world population is shooting upwards in a classic “J’ shape (although you types probably never studied biology). :roll:

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  24. hj (7,066 comments) says:

    “New Zealand’s change in immigration policy dates back to the early 1990s when the gap in productivity with other nations became pronounced between the years 1970 and 1990. Higher immigration was intended to fix the problem.

    In its report, the SWG claims the move backfired.

    “The policy choice that increased immigration, given the number of employers increasingly unable to pay First-World wages to the existing population and all the capital requirements that increasing populations involve – looks likely to have worked almost directly against the adjustment New Zealand needed to make and it might have been better off with a lower rate of net immigration.”

    The Savings Working Group also underscored the need to remove tax distortions that heavily favoured property investment. Failing the adoption of capital tax, it suggested the only way to reduce the tax distortion on property prices would be “at the very least to reduce taxes on financial assets,” which it identified as the “main investment alternative.”
    http://www.interest.co.nz/kiwisaver/52140/migration-policy-linked-inflated-housing-prices-government-spending-and-low-savings

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  25. hj (7,066 comments) says:

    “The policy choice that increased immigration, given the number of employers increasingly unable to pay First-World wages to the existing population and all the capital requirements that increasing populations involve – looks likely to have worked almost directly against the adjustment New Zealand needed to make and it might have been better off with a lower rate of net immigration.”
    ====
    So we loser-smoogers subside property developers….????

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  26. immigant (950 comments) says:

    Well fist of all house prices are high only in parts of NZ where people want to live. For the price of a house in Auckland, you can get 5 houses in my favourite seaside village of Wherethewhakawi. So is it the immigrant’s fault that Auckland and Wellington are the only places in NZ that are liveable/have jobs that don’t involve menial labour?
    If NZ had any respectable light industry like Switzerland for example, house prices would not even figure in the immigration debate.
    The fact that NZ has low productivity, badly educated population and economic growth that is lower than ALL of our neighbours, resulting in the majority of the population being poor. This can’t be blamed on immigrants, but on decades of loose governance. Turns out as soon as globalization kicks in NZ is not the 1st world paradise of the 50 and 60s but is actually woefully backward, but with pristine beaches and forests might I add.

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  27. Liberty (271 comments) says:

    There should be and open border.
    The only restriction is the immigrant should be financial. No call on social welfare.

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