KB back up

November 18th, 2011 at 8:09 am by David Farrar

Massive dos attack is why we were down from around 6 pm yesterday. Some people are not so much into this free speech concept.

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128 Responses to “KB back up”

  1. alex Masterley (1,507 comments) says:

    Wondered what the problem was.

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  2. laworder (286 comments) says:

    Was wondering about that. Had time to comment on a couple of threads last night and couldnt

    Regards
    Peter J
    Webmaster for http://www.sensiblesentencing.org.nz

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  3. badmac (139 comments) says:

    Was probably the Greens.

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  4. Murray (8,843 comments) says:

    You mean people like the greens?

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  5. Murray (8,843 comments) says:

    SNAP!

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  6. Pharmachick (232 comments) says:

    I wondered about that, this close to an election it was odd that you were quiet.
    Also, looked like the Herald got attempted DOS last night ~8 pm, but they gave up.

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  7. davidp (3,570 comments) says:

    Are the IP addresses the same as any commentors? If so it is time to out them.

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  8. Lance (2,613 comments) says:

    The DOS attack would have coincided with simultaneous DOS attacks on the Standard and Frog Blog……….

    If not one might suspect left wing shitheads who piss on Democracy while struggling with their own god complex.

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  9. Richard29 (377 comments) says:

    I wondered what the issue was. Madness. Some people take election season altogether too seriously!

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  10. Scott Chris (6,013 comments) says:

    Hmm… odd. More a personal grudge kind of action IMO. A dos attack serves no purpose politically as far as I can see.

    For the cyber-illiteratati such as myself:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

    A DoS attack can be perpetrated in a number of ways. The five basic types of attack are:

    >>Consumption of computational resources, such as bandwidth, disk space, or processor time.
    >>Disruption of configuration information, such as routing information.
    >>Disruption of state information, such as unsolicited resetting of TCP sessions.
    >>Disruption of physical network components.
    >>Obstructing the communication media between the intended users and the victim so that they can no longer communicate adequately.

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  11. ben (2,418 comments) says:

    Yes – relate the attack IP addresses and commenter IPs. God complex exactly – what extraordinary arrogance to basically reject the idea of people publicly expressing ideas contrary to your own.

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  12. Lucia Maria (2,250 comments) says:

    Wow. So it wasn’t just an overload due to your intense popularity during the election period.

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  13. flipper (3,908 comments) says:

    Just as well…I was getting the shakes.
    Wonder whether Garner will devote his “journalistic” skills to tracking down the culprits……

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  14. Richard29 (377 comments) says:

    “Wonder whether Garner will devote his “journalistic” skills to tracking down the culprits……”

    I doubt it – but I’m sure Whale will get somebody call his ‘tipline’ – perhaps with the licence plate of a motorbike seen speeding away from an internet cafe :P

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  15. flipper (3,908 comments) says:

    New thread….

    Last night there were two polls – TV one and TV 3. This morning NZ Herald published.
    The results are Nats up, Labour up (whisker), Act up, Maori up, Peters down and up (to 4.9).
    The Herald poll has always given Peters more than any other. The TV 3 poll last evening showed him down. Given slightly different timing (a day or so) and slightly different numbers (Herald is smallest at 700 odd) it is the average that is important, though one cannot disregard trends.
    What these seem to show is that tea pot is giving Peters some life but not damaging Nats

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  16. Murray (8,843 comments) says:

    “Hmm… odd. More a personal grudge kind of action IMO. A dos attack serves no purpose politically as far as I can see.”

    Nor does vanadlising billboards… yet.

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  17. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    Most likely the greens again. Their record on freedom of speech and interfering with others’ property
    hasn’t been that great lately.

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  18. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    The dirty fingers of socialist Labourites or communist Luddites, maybe?

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  19. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    Ah, so it was a DOS attack. I was worried it might have been the Police executing a search warrant.

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  20. badmac (139 comments) says:

    I have photoshops of a male and blond female on a tron cycle seen leaving a Christchurch premise! The blond appears to be on top (whoops wrong photo).

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  21. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    But on the bright side: My RIP was able to take a break… for a short while at least. :P

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  22. hmmokrightitis (1,579 comments) says:

    No, its OK Toad, your sticker collection is safe

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  23. hmmokrightitis (1,579 comments) says:

    Trying to pin down the source of a DoS attack is generally nigh on impossible, its quite easy to cover tracks.

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  24. dime (9,787 comments) says:

    struth. has anyone checked on whale?

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  25. vto (1,128 comments) says:

    Don’t worry you lot – nobody noticed. ha ha

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  26. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    Imagine if phool’s blog got dos’d. They’d have to keep it for a couple of months before anyone noticed.

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  27. Rick Rowling (825 comments) says:

    Billboard defacement
    “Accidentally” leaving battery-powered microphones active in a closed bag
    DOS attacks

    Left wingers – keeping it classy since ages ago

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  28. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    The mobile version of the site was still available, I’d guess that front end is hosted on Mobify’s servers? Comments weren’t available even through mobile, I guess they’re all hosted on the main server and the mobile front end pulls them from there. The main site is hosted by Inspire? If so then I’m guessing they had disruption for other customers as well – so whoever DOS attacked Kiwiblog also probably disrupted service for many others as well.
    Just childish and selfish whoever the script kiddies were. I’m guessing Labour youth.

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  29. petal (705 comments) says:

    “toad (3,148) Says:
    November 18th, 2011 at 8:48 am
    Ah, so it was a DOS attack. I was worried it might have been the Police executing a search warrant.”

    toad (3,148) Says:
    November 18th, 2011 at 8:48 am
    Ah, so it was a DOS attack. I was SOILING MY UNDIES AT THE THOUGHT it might have been the Police executing a search warrant.

    Fixed that for you.

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  30. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    Whilst I’m sure that DPF has his finger on the pulse and knows the cause for the outage, perhaps there was another reason???

    Maybe the spit and crap from someone who spouts relentlessly has finally dribbled onto the keyboard/ short circuited a processor in the laptop and the resulting power spike has shot down the internet connection to totally bugger the server. But for that to occur, someone would have to average ~28 comments per day (or ~850 per month)!

    Nah… Surely not? :P

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  31. Mary Rose (393 comments) says:

    I wondered if it was someone who’d posted an outraged comment on the ‘Conservative Party policy’ thread trying to delete what they’d written – having FINALLY worked out it was all just DPF fomenting mischief and their comment made them look silly.

    Mr F: I’m sure makers of anti-blood-pressure pills would love to sponsor Kiwiblog ;-)

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  32. Murray (8,843 comments) says:

    The green supporters were out vandalising more signs last night. Russell Norman said they were cooperating with the police, I’d suggest they cooperate little harder.

    Norman might also like to consider how effective, or otherwise, he leadership is.

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  33. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    I wonder what a judge would say about two politicians meeting in a public space (with other people sitting in close vicinity) for a Photo op and privacy but here is something that might interest you about tapes released in John Key’s past. In 1995 to be precise: http://aotearoaawiderperspective.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/on-tapes-secret-scumbaggery-and-why-john-key-should-have-known-better/

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  34. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,823 comments) says:

    Unions at it again. Hardly the first time the left have attempted to shut down free speech.

    Maybe their stupid web ads are costing them too much so they are trying to shut down the source of all the click throughs.

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  35. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    travellerev sweetie, go back to The sub-Standard. They love your conspiracy theories.

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  36. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Put it away, so true :-)

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  37. lprent (102 comments) says:

    We get quite significant spikes on odd occasions at the standard – usually spambots or spiders gone wrong. Mostly they get caught in the iptables rules and cause no significant issues. Unfortunately those rules have to be quite loose because of the google bots and other spiders – which look a lot like a DOS sometimes. A process checks the logs and highlights anything that I might need to look at. I usually just cut off whole IP ranges from talking to parts of the system.

    We haven’t had any issues in the last week apart from traffic increases. I cut off relations with Nepal four weeks ago (distributed spam comments). Some sections of rackspace in the UK two weeks ago. And some local IP who was repeatably trying to read the entire site too damn fast last week.

    DDOS attacks are what I tend to worry about. That one from Nepal was doing some nasty things to the loading on the US server.

    I see that the overlapping Localist Ad problem is here as well. I just disabled our sections where it was displaying because it was destroying layout

    [DPF: According to Inspire, these attacks were mainly from Sweden of all places!]

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  38. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    The green supporters were out vandalising more signs last night. Russell Norman said they were cooperating with the police, I’d suggest they cooperate little harder.

    Awesome, more votes for the Nats.

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  39. Murray (8,843 comments) says:

    The “media” seem to be peering hawkishly in the other direction as well Bevan.

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  40. KevinH (1,191 comments) says:

    A dos command prompt momentarily flashes on screen when entering Kiwiblog, I thought perhaps it was a server prompt although it could be an exe.file, whatever it is still there but not enabled.

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  41. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    No Manolo,

    I think I’ll stay for a while and while I’m at it let me give you another link to John Key’s bankster past.

    http://aotearoaawiderperspective.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/open-letter-to-eugene-bingham-or-would-you-have-voted-for-john-key-if-you-had-known/

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  42. Lance (2,613 comments) says:

    Oh look
    Another looney left sock puppet

    For some odd reason there has been a plague of them recently.

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  43. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Funny at the Standard they call me a right wing loony. I prefer to think of myself as a way past the left/right paradigm sensible person but I suspect you have to look paradigm up before you’d understand it

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  44. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    tavellerev, maybe they do call you that, but last time I spent any time reading comments there (admittedly over a year ago) you were most certainly one of the lefty gang.

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  45. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Well, Whatever you want to call me you are going to vote a international bankster in for the second term and refuse the info I bring here for your info so I think I’m better of than you.

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  46. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    And I can assure you I have no Gang affiliations (another word Lance may have to look up. LOL.

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  47. lprent (102 comments) says:

    RN: Only if you define a lefty gang as “people that I disagree with”. I think that Tev has managed to argue with almost everyone in comments at one time of another from several different angles. Including me and all the moderators. The long and turgid discussions on tensile strengths under heat still haunt my moderation dreams. Just as the word “retrospective” does whenever I see the name “burt”. Moderators have to read a lot of material of dubious interest to them.

    But I do find many of the right commentators to be most notable for their distinctive flocking behaviors and inability to think outside of their narrow frames of thought bequeathed by their families (they even baa together when I get a mob through if one of their leaders is in trouble). So I suspect that a lefty is a person you disagree with is probably exactly the definition that you really use.

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  48. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    You are entitled to your own opinions, as am I. I’d take a Key led National government over the Union and Dinosaur Labour led government any day.

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  49. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    lprent, I have previously commented on your site and found the flock behaviour to be strong – grouping together to attack non-aligned comments, and abetted by your moderation, which included a number of attacks by you personally. Prior to the 2008 election a comment by Irish Bill cemented by swing to the right (hence Right Now). I don’t like your commenters, they are nasty (much like Labour MPs)

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  50. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    lprent, Chief Censor at The sub-Standard has no moral authority to speak on these matters.
    Go back to the sewer!

    [DPF: Please do not tell people to leave. That is my job, and I have no problems with Lyn's contributions]

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  51. Daigotsu (452 comments) says:

    Sounds like the Greens did it.

    The simultaneous attack on frogblog is just a cover/diversion… doesn’t cost them anything since nobody reads it so it is not exactly gonna ve winning them more voters LOL

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  52. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    What happened Manolo? Did he kick your trolling ass out?

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  53. Daigotsu (452 comments) says:

    “DPF: Please do not tell people to leave. ”

    Freedom of speech much?

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  54. Scott Chris (6,013 comments) says:

    lprent says:- “But I do find many of the right commentators to be most notable for their distinctive flocking behaviors and inability to think outside of their narrow frames of thought bequeathed by their families”

    Heh, yes I could name them for you on this site. Actually, Righnow was amongst them a couple of days ago, but of course, he thinks I’m a lefty fantasist, so I simply bring it on myself with my ludicrous assertions.

    But really, it’s just good old fashioned tribalism. Lefties do it too.

    Mind you, Farrar’s laissez faire approach to moderation is really quite enlightened IMO

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  55. Scott Chris (6,013 comments) says:

    Daigotsu says:- “Freedom of speech much?”

    You’re confusing censorship with persuasion.

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  56. meh (165 comments) says:

    Hmm, database errors then no response about 10 minutes ago.. another attack?!

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  57. dime (9,787 comments) says:

    “so I simply bring it on myself with my ludicrous assertions.” coupled with your unfortunate personality.

    meh – id say so!

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  58. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    Yes Scott, I do think you’re a Walter Mitty, but I don’t have to rely on you for anything and I don’t think you’re a real danger to others so I respect your right to express your views.
    WRT ‘flocking’ behaviour it happens everywhere (flock you too pal), the main difference with KB is that DPF doesn’t join in unless he is personally attacked. lprent doesn’t disguise the glee he takes in making personal attacks on outsiders.

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  59. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    .. Farrar’s laissez faire approach to moderation is really quite enlightened ..

    Indeed. Completely missing in the case of the ultracensorious lprent, aka The sub-Standard’s Torquemada.

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  60. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,823 comments) says:

    Did Kiwiblog just get a second day of outages? All be it a considerably shorter period today.

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  61. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    Yes, same error as before, which would suggest another DDOS attack. The ISP was probably able to shut it down faster this time because a) it happened during business hours when their engineers were on deck and b) it would be fresh in their minds from last night how best to shut it down.

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  62. Lance (2,613 comments) says:

    Oh dear
    T rev is preaching his intellectual superiority.

    Come to shine his wisdom upon us dumb old boys.

    Are you a school teacher?

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  63. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Hi Lance,

    Scared of teachers are you?

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  64. Lance (2,613 comments) says:

    Well I would be buggered if I was, gettn dat der degree.

    It’s just all the Chardonnay socialists I know are all teachers.
    A bunch of insufferable pricks whose primary purpose if life is organize others affairs. They are characterized by an aire of automatic self superiority.

    You appear to be one

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  65. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    ROFL

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  66. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    travellerev – why now? Why come to Kiwiblog now and tell us you’re not a lefty but…

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  67. Lance (2,613 comments) says:

    Like I said RightNow

    It’s a lefty sock puppet

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  68. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    By the way I take it that means you didn’t check out the links to inform yourself about what your mate John Key has been up to before he cam back to sell your country from under your arse? Neh, I didn’t think so

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  69. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    Lol, that there sure is lefty talk, fetch me my shotgun ma!

    What do you think would happen if I was posting links to Darnton v Clark and the like on The Standard?

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  70. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Have you read the links? Rightnow? Go ahead keep your self stupid. Just the way John Key and his mates like ya!

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  71. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    I won’t read them now just to annoy you ;)

    edit – would you prefer I vote for ACT? I can’t reconcile with any of the other parties, so that seems to be what you’re encouraging me to do.

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  72. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Good boy. John Key loves ya!

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  73. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Oh wow, smiley indicating humour! LOL.

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  74. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    I figured your ROFL up the thread deserved a winking smiley. LOL

    I’m certainly amused, you came here to post something you obviously want us to read, and told us you’re not a lefty. lprent came to support your claim, but let’s be honest – even Pete George is called a RWNJ over at the Standard.

    Anyway, Labour won’t be getting my vote for two main reasons – a return to more powerful unionism will not help NZ, and they are riddled with senior MP’s that I find nasty and vitriolic. They seem to think they are born to rule and NZ made a big mistake not voting for them. You’d think they’d wise up and change their attitude, but no sign of that happening.
    As for the Greens – I would be scared shitless if they got any sway over economic policy.

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  75. Scott Chris (6,013 comments) says:

    travellerev – I had a look at the link. It starts off with a prolonged and rather poorly worded personal attack, and then proceeds to make a series of vague allegations, tenuously based on John Keys mere proximity to one or two allegedly unsavoury characters.

    There is nothing substantial there at all. Just hopeful muckraking.

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  76. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    RightNow,

    I appreciate your candour and this attempt at a halfway decent conversation. So I’ll honour that with some info about where I come from.

    I arrived in this beautiful country only six years ago with my Kiwi husband of 25 years. I don’t have a history with either National or Labour and if I could vote would cast my vote for neither.

    I was given the opportunity to study international finance and the main politicians of this country and what I found out about John Key worried me greatly and all I do is share that info you can take it and do with it what you want but I think this is info every Kiwi has to read before making a choice. That’s all.

    I think most National voters are decent hard working people and so are most other folk in this country but I think that most of them are woefully under informed by a mainstream media which whether you think of yourself as right or left does not give people the information they need to make informed decisions.

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  77. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    I apologise for my wording as Dutch is my primary language. Here is the link to another post I wrote in 2008 to Eugene Bingham which has much more detail and links to archives and articles supporting my post: http://aotearoaawiderperspective.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/open-letter-to-eugene-bingham-or-would-you-have-voted-for-john-key-if-you-had-known/

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  78. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    Water woman transmogrified into a Dutch national? It so, proof that nuttiness is a universal calamity (read pest).
    Tin-foil hat alert.

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  79. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    ROFL! Is Manolo always this stupid?

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  80. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    It really comes down to this: who do I think will do the least long term damage to NZ? National have taken a very middle of the road approach (you’ll see them often referred to as Labour Lite) and have (in my opinion) done a reasonable job of handling a global economic downturn and the CHCH earthquakes.
    I don’t see any great talent in Labour that could do any better. The Greens are idealists with no practical experience and no sign of the discipline/expertise required to manage a national economy.
    I don’t necessarily like John Key, and I don’t necessarily trust him, but I don’t believe he wants anyone to be worse off. It doesn’t matter what he said in 1995, it doesn’t matter what he said over the cup of tea. It doesn’t matter that he said he wouldn’t raise GST – he also decided to cancel a tranche of tax cuts due to the economic situation, and I think he was right to do that.

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  81. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    Anyway, I had a look at your link. As I understand it you’re blaming John Key’s position with Merrill Lynch in 1997 for the subprime crisis. Hmm, do you also think Bush engineered 9/11?

    Me, I blame the US Democrats for starting the sub-prime catastrophe, first by legislating loans for bad risks (because poor people will be empowered by having big mortgages) and then by blocking regulation of Fanny and Freddie. Certainly the banks capitalised on this situation, and they’re every bit the vultures they’re said to be. There should have been no bailout of the banks (and our finance company guarantee in NZ shouldn’t have had to cover the interest on top of the deposits, but that’s a side issue) – a free market approach would have let them fail – but in the US the government (Republican or Democrat) is loathe to let the status quo fail.

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  82. Black with a Vengeance (1,752 comments) says:

    National have taken a very middle of the road approach and have done a reasonable job of handling a global economic downturn and the CHCH earthquakes.

    More bullshit RN. You make it sound as if the job is done.

    Middle of the road means hands off and let the market dictate yeah ?…Let people sort their own shit out. Don’t get down and dirty, show a clean pair of gloves and just manage the photo ops.

    Like Brownlees handling of Pike river ?…and this is the chump we have in charge of the ChCh rebuild. A fat fucking failed woodwork teacher. Is that the bar for discipline and expertise you’re referring to ?

    I’m sure Labour could put someone better qualified in charge. Don’t you ?

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  83. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    RightNow,

    I hear you and to be honest I think that we are toast. But we are even more toast with John Key in power.

    Here is a link to a fairly conservative finance site and you can take it from there:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/

    Here is a link to a guy who petrified me as he is a red neck Texan loud mouth and if you had told me three years ago I would actually listen to this guy I would have thought you utterly mad and yes until a couple of years ago I identified mostly with what is seen as leftist ideology but I believe we are in for hell and if it all goes pear shaped I want this guy to be in my camp.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/

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  84. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    “I’m sure Labour could put someone better qualified in charge. Don’t you ?” – no, but I’m sure you can amuse me by suggesting someone.

    “But we are even more toast with John Key in power.” – as opposed to who? Goff?

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  85. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    Hmm, do you also think Bush engineered 9/11?

    You bet she does.

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  86. Black with a Vengeance (1,752 comments) says:

    “I’m sure Labour could put someone better qualified in charge. Don’t you ?” – no, but I’m sure you can amuse me by suggesting someone.

    Andrew Little

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  87. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Jesus, am I looking forward to the 27th when rocks will be moving all over the place with low life trollers crawling back under them.

    And Black you are just becoming really fucking tiresome.

    I was hoping that with the blog down last night a couple of the more tedious commentators would have acted like the oxygen deprived and faded away quietly

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  88. RightNow (6,961 comments) says:

    Did you have to try hard to think that up? I’m glad you didn’t disappoint.

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  89. Black with a Vengeance (1,752 comments) says:

    Not at all.

    Little was educated at New Plymouth Boys’ High School and studied law, philosophy and public policy at Victoria University of Wellington in the 1980s. After graduating he took a job as a lawyer with the Engineers’ Union (a forerunner of the EPMU). In 1997 he was appointed the union’s general counsel (chief lawyer).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Little_%28trade_unionist%29

    After leaving high school, he worked in his family’s timber business, and received training in carpentry. Later he qualified as a teacher. He then taught woodwork and crafts at high-school level at Ellesmere College, and later at St Bede’s College. At St Bede’s he taught woodwork and graphics.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Brownlee

    Doesn’t even look like Brownlee left school with School C or UE but let’s not let being a fat, useless, dumb, brownnosing, career politician, prick stand in the way of being in charge of rebuilding a city eh ?

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  90. Scott Chris (6,013 comments) says:

    eastbay you’re the fucking troll you idiot. Intolerant abusive comments like yours and elaycees and murrays and beryls and dimes and bruvs are forever derailing threads.

    Can’t you fucking see that?

    Fuck you are stupid.

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  91. reid (16,174 comments) says:

    Intolerant abusive comments like yours and elaycees and murrays and beryls and dimes and bruvs are forever derailing threads.

    How come you left me off the list Scott?

    You’ve hurt me in my tummy.

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  92. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    RN,

    Response tomorrow. nice talking to you!

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  93. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Oh well it looks like Mrs Chris’s little boy Scott is the only one in step, again.

    You poor vain dill, you actually believe anyone gives a flying fuck in regards to your comments. What is it 2700 of them in the last 7 weeks or so?

    ………………..yours and elaycees and murrays and beryls and dimes and bruvs are forever derailing threads.

    And thanks for that I consider that a compliment

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  94. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    The resident muppet bleats: “eastbay you’re the fucking troll you idiot. Intolerant abusive comments like yours and elaycees and murrays and beryls and dimes and bruvs are forever derailing threads. Can’t you fucking see that? Fuck you are stupid.”

    Ha ha – thank you for your ‘contribution’… but just as well someone else didn’t say that because you’d go running like a squealing little piggie all the way to the blog owner complaining that we were being mean and nasty to you.

    Diddums.

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  95. Johnboy (15,876 comments) says:

    Its fucking hard to get back onto KB once you get dumped these days Scotty. Taken me five days what with dos and all the password palaver. Best to pull the head in I suspect. :)

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  96. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    JB

    Welcome back from the naughty boys room,

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  97. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    Aloha Johnboy. Good to see that your parole application was successful. :P

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  98. Johnboy (15,876 comments) says:

    I haven’t been wasting my time during the hol’s PEB.

    I have penned a little ditty called the “Running on EmEmPee Song”.

    I guess I can post it here even if it is off thread.

    On my other computer. I’ll go and crank it up. :)

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  99. dime (9,787 comments) says:

    “eastbay you’re the fucking troll you idiot. Intolerant abusive comments like yours and elaycees and murrays and beryls and dimes and bruvs are forever derailing threads”

    how did i make that list??? because i pointed out your unfortunate personality after reading 2000+ of your inane comments.

    and then you follow it up with:

    “Fuck you are stupid.”

    well thats charming.

    I get it though. In real life you never quite made it did ya? you work for people that you think arent as smart as you. lifes tough. so, you have an online presence. you start out here as a patronising fuck, but most of us let it slide. then you start to get even more high and mighty and people start to give you a bit of stick. this incenses you as your cyber life is starting to reflect your real life. unfortunately you dont have the social tools to say “yea sorry guys, just being a dick.. but heres what i think etc”. oh no, you think the solution is to become even more of a douche bag and then start getting upset. now, youre forever known as a weak as piss, socially inept bitch boy on kiwiblog and your cyber life is just like your real life. and ya know what makes it cool? i know for a fact that you work for a dude just like me :) hell, ive had employees just like you. i bet it just grates you. hell, i bet youre the sort of guy that strippers are scared of.

    in summary, you have half a brain, but no social skills. youre a loser.

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  100. Johnboy (15,876 comments) says:

    Hi Elaycee. Glad to see you keeping the children in line while I have been absent! :)

    Tried to get Lord Birkenhead to plead my case with DPF but the prick still won’t reply to my mails. :)

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  101. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    Dime accurately assesses: “now, you’re forever known as a weak as piss, socially inept bitch boy on kiwiblog and your cyber life is just like your real life…” and then “…in summary, you have half a brain, but no social skills. you’re a loser.”

    Your words are simply beautiful, dime – they almost bring a tear to the eye… :P

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  102. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    @Johnboy – I found the best way to get a quick response from lawyers was to offer money first!

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  103. Johnboy (15,876 comments) says:

    For all you KB chaps and chapess’s wot appreciate a bit of real kulture and with regard to the latest polls I have penned the following little ditty entitled. “The Running on EmEmPee” song.

    In view of CER to be sung to the tune of “Waltzing Matilda”. :)

    Once a jolly PM camped in the Beehive
    Under the veil of personality
    And he sang as he watched and waited while poor Goofy failed
    You’ll never beat one as wonderful as me.

    One such as me, One such as me
    You’ll never beat one as electable as me
    And he sang as he watched and waited while poor Goofy failed
    You’ll never beat one as rich as me.

    Down came a Banksy to drink from the people’s trough
    Up jumped the PM to take him for tea
    And he sang as watched and waited while poor Goofy failed
    You’ll never get more votes than me

    One such as me, One such as me
    You’ll never equal one such as me
    And he sang as he watched and waited while poor Goofy failed
    You’ll never ever get the numbers on me

    Up rode old Dunne mounted on Ohariu
    Up rode his barbers one, two, three.
    What will you give me to keep my majority?
    Then I’ll come a dancing PM with thee.

    Dancing with me, dancing with me
    They’ll all come a dancing with nice Johnny Key
    And he sang as he watched and waited till poor Goofy failed
    Lets all go a dancing with nice Johnny Key

    Up jumped the Maoris after a freebee
    What will you give us Hone Key?
    I’ll give you the foreshore and the seabed
    If you’ll all come a dancing along with me

    Dancing with Hone, dancing with Hone
    Who’ll come a dancing with nice Hone Key
    And he sang as he watched and waited while poor Goofy failed
    Never more you’ll get the Maoris off of me!

    And the ghost of poor Rod may be heard from the Beehive
    Why don’t you Greenies go waltzing with Key?
    You will get much more progress on your itinerary
    If you all go a waltzing with nice Greenie Key

    Waltzing with Hone Key, waltzing with Greenie Key
    Who’ll go a waltzing with Johnny Key this year
    The election it is in the bag. We remember the dreadful Hag
    Johnny Key will waltz the election this year

    A wizened little brown man said I really hate to dance
    To anybody’s music, other than mine
    If I get enough percentage of the stupid peoples vote
    The melody you’ll dance to will be a tune of mine

    Waltzing with Winston waltzing with Winston
    We’ll all go a waltzing with Winston again
    And the death of MMP will be read out on election night
    If we all go a waltzing with Winston again

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  104. nasska (11,065 comments) says:

    Johnboy

    Beautiful…just beautiful. It brought a tear to my eye.

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  105. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    Brilliant, Johnboy. Just brilliant. Haha.

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  106. Black with a Vengeance (1,752 comments) says:

    Lame johnboy, real fucking lame…*yawn*

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  107. big bruv (13,655 comments) says:

    Outstanding Johnboy.

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  108. Nookin (3,240 comments) says:

    Brilliant Johnboy — and here was me thinking you had buggered off to Epsom to court the waterwoman and scrounge some barbed wire

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  109. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    RN,

    Here is as promised my answer. First let me start by saying that I agree totally with you and that it was under Clinton that the Glass Steagall act was repealed and that this enabled investment banks and commercial banks to merge opening the door to the disaster we are facing now. In fact Clinton himself talks about this in this link: http://publiccreditorbust.blog.com/2011/11/18/former-us-president-bill-clinton-information-confirms-john-key-new-zealand-prime-minister-played-a-large-part-in-the-global-financial-crisis/

    This was the result however of some $200 lobbying and was the event all the bankers were waiting for in order to be able to start the looting in earnest. The law was de facto repealed in 1997 and de jura in 1998.

    Here is the full history: over the last thirty years or so of what happened in the banking world: http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Financial_Tsunami/financial_tsunami.html

    What I am saying is that John Key lied about his involvement with what to this date is the biggest attack on a single currency with Andrew Krieger, about his involvement with the collapse of the Thai bath and the LTCM hedgefund after the collapse of which he had to fire most of his colleagues earning him the nickname of the Smiling Assassin and how he is still Lying about transrail shares, meeting with bigwigs and other assorted secrecy issues. That is a pattern I don’t like in a PM.

    At the moment in Europe in rapid succession entire countries are being taken over by unelected bankers. They who have caused all the problems are now supposed to sort the problems out mush to the disgust of their peoples. Here we vote our one in.

    I don’t know who perpetrated 911 but I do know that not even 19 angry young Arab men with box cutters can break the laws of Physics. Did you know that a third building collapsed on 911? Not hit by planes but through simple office fires?

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  110. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    RN,

    Here is a good speech from Nigel Farage in the European parliament about the situation in Europe: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/watch-nigel-farage-dance-euros-grave

    And here is a good course in the financial situation we are in done by another conservative finance expert: http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse

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  111. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Couldn’t resist here is the subprime banking deregulation timeline from Wiki (1998 incipient housing bubble) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_crisis_impact_timeline and here Prof.William black who wants every investment banker behind bars for fraud as he did with 1500 of them during the savings and loans scandal in the early 90s: http://dailybail.com/home/william-black-not-with-a-bang-but-a-whimper-bank-of-americas.html He’s got some choice things to say about BofA ans Merrill Lynch

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  112. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    travellerev: Haha – another moron sourcing material written by the Labour party puppet Iain Parker from Stratford and trying to claim it as ‘fact’….

    BUSTED!

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  113. Pete George (23,416 comments) says:

    FWIW – travellerev is one Standard regular who is an individual who will argue strongly and won’t join in with the blinkered swarm attacks (which as has been mentioned are sometimes actively supported by a certain moderator).

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  114. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    @Pete George – IMO, anyone who copies / pastes outrageous claims and lies from Labour sources deserves to be slapped down for what he / she really is – a moron who is guilty of regurgitating crap.

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  115. niggly (813 comments) says:

    WTF??? I read the first few posts here yesterday about the DOS and come back today to see a TROLL engaging in unproven tinfoil hat conspiracy theories. TROLL-OFF this crap onto another thread (GD) or better still onto your own site where you can talk to yourself…

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  116. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Why thank you Pete for your kind words.

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  117. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Elycee,

    I have no affiliation with Iain other than that his info is corroborated by my research. I do not get paid or endorsed by any political party and have no affiliation with anyone other then myself and my research. I have no sympathy for labour or National and your aggression is unjustified and tedious and does not add to an adult exchange of information.

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  118. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Niggly,

    A Troll is someone who adds nothing to any discussion and whose only response to any real discussion is to tell people to Fuck off. That seems to be what you are doing. I have to give it to Farrar that although I do not share his opinions gives free speech its due so if it is all the same to you I will stay here and if you are prepared to engage in a healthy exchange of ideas I’ll engage other wise I’ll just ignore your silly tantrums. Have a nice day!

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  119. adze (2,049 comments) says:

    “A Troll is someone who adds nothing to any discussion and whose only response to any real discussion is to tell people to Fuck off.”

    In “Internet parlance”, a troll is usually considered someone who comes onto a forum and makes deliberately inflammatory or contrary comments designed to get a strong reaction from others.

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  120. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    travellerev – as soon as you stop plagiarising unsubstantiated conspiracy material from a Labour source and claiming it as ‘fact’, I’ll stop pointing it out as crap.

    Easy. Ball is in your court.

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  121. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Elayancee, Plagiarising is copying/ pastin and claiming as your own. I have permission from Iain to use his material and thsi is the first link I have made to his blog.

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  122. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    travellerev: Thank you for confirming that you talk crap – your earlier comment “I have no affiliation with Iain other than that his info is corroborated by my research” doesn’t quite sit with your subsequent “I have permission from Iain to use his material”..

    BUSTED.

    Bwahahahahaaaaaaaaa

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  123. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    Jesus, You’re dim,

    I have only found his blog two days ago through one of my facebook friends and contacted him and asked permission to link to his stuff and to give him permission to link to my stuff.

    You will see that I have had this blog four five years or so and that I have done my own research for many, many years.

    If it’s OK with you I have I think explained myself enough and will consider this exchange with you finished. If on the other hand you would attempt to exchange about the facts in the many other links I have given above I will consider engaging with you again. Have a nice day.

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  124. niggly (813 comments) says:

    travellrev, your postings on Activists writing ridiculous posts on Clinton/Key & WTC building 7 would be better moved to the general debate thread, I’d be happy to engage there :-)

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  125. Elaycee (4,348 comments) says:

    trivialrev – it may be a good idea to debate conspiracy theories with niggly on GD – I see he has extended the invitation. In fact, niggly is clearly a more patient man than I am – bless him.

    In your case, you haven’t made it past my bullshit detector.

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  126. travellerev (149 comments) says:

    I apologise for diverting the thread as it is not my habit to hijack threads and I had planned to engage in the thread concerning the tape issue as it would have fitted there better and it was only after the blog had gone off line that I noticed I had planted my links on the wrong thread. Anyway some gentlemen were happy to engage so I didn’t pay it no mind. Also I think if it had upset the moderator he would have pointed the error of my ways out. Wouldn’t you think so? To be honest I think your dissing me is really just another type of trolling. Have a nice day!!

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  127. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    Mad Dutch woman alert!
    The newest addition to RIP.

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  128. Johnboy (15,876 comments) says:

    Scrounge my arse Nookin. I sent the woman two brand new crowbars and a kilometer of HT and still I await delivery! :)

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