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A DoS attack can be perpetrated in a number of ways. The five basic types of attack are:
>>Consumption of computational resources, such as bandwidth, disk space, or processor time.
>>Disruption of configuration information, such as routing information.
>>Disruption of state information, such as unsolicited resetting of TCP sessions.
>>Disruption of physical network components.
>>Obstructing the communication media between the intended users and the victim so that they can no longer communicate adequately.
Last night there were two polls – TV one and TV 3. This morning NZ Herald published.
The results are Nats up, Labour up (whisker), Act up, Maori up, Peters down and up (to 4.9).
The Herald poll has always given Peters more than any other. The TV 3 poll last evening showed him down. Given slightly different timing (a day or so) and slightly different numbers (Herald is smallest at 700 odd) it is the average that is important, though one cannot disregard trends.
What these seem to show is that tea pot is giving Peters some life but not damaging Nats
The mobile version of the site was still available, I’d guess that front end is hosted on Mobify’s servers? Comments weren’t available even through mobile, I guess they’re all hosted on the main server and the mobile front end pulls them from there. The main site is hosted by Inspire? If so then I’m guessing they had disruption for other customers as well – so whoever DOS attacked Kiwiblog also probably disrupted service for many others as well.
Just childish and selfish whoever the script kiddies were. I’m guessing Labour youth.
Whilst I’m sure that DPF has his finger on the pulse and knows the cause for the outage, perhaps there was another reason???
Maybe the spit and crap from someone who spouts relentlessly has finally dribbled onto the keyboard/ short circuited a processor in the laptop and the resulting power spike has shot down the internet connection to totally bugger the server. But for that to occur, someone would have to average ~28 comments per day (or ~850 per month)!
I wondered if it was someone who’d posted an outraged comment on the ‘Conservative Party policy’ thread trying to delete what they’d written – having FINALLY worked out it was all just DPF fomenting mischief and their comment made them look silly.
Mr F: I’m sure makers of anti-blood-pressure pills would love to sponsor Kiwiblog 😉
We get quite significant spikes on odd occasions at the standard – usually spambots or spiders gone wrong. Mostly they get caught in the iptables rules and cause no significant issues. Unfortunately those rules have to be quite loose because of the google bots and other spiders – which look a lot like a DOS sometimes. A process checks the logs and highlights anything that I might need to look at. I usually just cut off whole IP ranges from talking to parts of the system.
We haven’t had any issues in the last week apart from traffic increases. I cut off relations with Nepal four weeks ago (distributed spam comments). Some sections of rackspace in the UK two weeks ago. And some local IP who was repeatably trying to read the entire site too damn fast last week.
DDOS attacks are what I tend to worry about. That one from Nepal was doing some nasty things to the loading on the US server.
I see that the overlapping Localist Ad problem is here as well. I just disabled our sections where it was displaying because it was destroying layout
[DPF: According to Inspire, these attacks were mainly from Sweden of all places!]
Funny at the Standard they call me a right wing loony. I prefer to think of myself as a way past the left/right paradigm sensible person but I suspect you have to look paradigm up before you’d understand it
RN: Only if you define a lefty gang as “people that I disagree with”. I think that Tev has managed to argue with almost everyone in comments at one time of another from several different angles. Including me and all the moderators. The long and turgid discussions on tensile strengths under heat still haunt my moderation dreams. Just as the word “retrospective” does whenever I see the name “burt”. Moderators have to read a lot of material of dubious interest to them.
But I do find many of the right commentators to be most notable for their distinctive flocking behaviors and inability to think outside of their narrow frames of thought bequeathed by their families (they even baa together when I get a mob through if one of their leaders is in trouble). So I suspect that a lefty is a person you disagree with is probably exactly the definition that you really use.
lprent, I have previously commented on your site and found the flock behaviour to be strong – grouping together to attack non-aligned comments, and abetted by your moderation, which included a number of attacks by you personally. Prior to the 2008 election a comment by Irish Bill cemented by swing to the right (hence Right Now). I don’t like your commenters, they are nasty (much like Labour MPs)
lprent says:- “But I do find many of the right commentators to be most notable for their distinctive flocking behaviors and inability to think outside of their narrow frames of thought bequeathed by their families”
Heh, yes I could name them for you on this site. Actually, Righnow was amongst them a couple of days ago, but of course, he thinks I’m a lefty fantasist, so I simply bring it on myself with my ludicrous assertions.
But really, it’s just good old fashioned tribalism. Lefties do it too.
Mind you, Farrar’s laissez faire approach to moderation is really quite enlightened IMO
Yes Scott, I do think you’re a Walter Mitty, but I don’t have to rely on you for anything and I don’t think you’re a real danger to others so I respect your right to express your views.
WRT ‘flocking’ behaviour it happens everywhere (flock you too pal), the main difference with KB is that DPF doesn’t join in unless he is personally attacked. lprent doesn’t disguise the glee he takes in making personal attacks on outsiders.
Yes, same error as before, which would suggest another DDOS attack. The ISP was probably able to shut it down faster this time because a) it happened during business hours when their engineers were on deck and b) it would be fresh in their minds from last night how best to shut it down.
Well I would be buggered if I was, gettn dat der degree.
It’s just all the Chardonnay socialists I know are all teachers.
A bunch of insufferable pricks whose primary purpose if life is organize others affairs. They are characterized by an aire of automatic self superiority.
By the way I take it that means you didn’t check out the links to inform yourself about what your mate John Key has been up to before he cam back to sell your country from under your arse? Neh, I didn’t think so
I figured your ROFL up the thread deserved a winking smiley. LOL
I’m certainly amused, you came here to post something you obviously want us to read, and told us you’re not a lefty. lprent came to support your claim, but let’s be honest – even Pete George is called a RWNJ over at the Standard.
Anyway, Labour won’t be getting my vote for two main reasons – a return to more powerful unionism will not help NZ, and they are riddled with senior MP’s that I find nasty and vitriolic. They seem to think they are born to rule and NZ made a big mistake not voting for them. You’d think they’d wise up and change their attitude, but no sign of that happening.
As for the Greens – I would be scared shitless if they got any sway over economic policy.
travellerev – I had a look at the link. It starts off with a prolonged and rather poorly worded personal attack, and then proceeds to make a series of vague allegations, tenuously based on John Keys mere proximity to one or two allegedly unsavoury characters.
There is nothing substantial there at all. Just hopeful muckraking.
I appreciate your candour and this attempt at a halfway decent conversation. So I’ll honour that with some info about where I come from.
I arrived in this beautiful country only six years ago with my Kiwi husband of 25 years. I don’t have a history with either National or Labour and if I could vote would cast my vote for neither.
I was given the opportunity to study international finance and the main politicians of this country and what I found out about John Key worried me greatly and all I do is share that info you can take it and do with it what you want but I think this is info every Kiwi has to read before making a choice. That’s all.
I think most National voters are decent hard working people and so are most other folk in this country but I think that most of them are woefully under informed by a mainstream media which whether you think of yourself as right or left does not give people the information they need to make informed decisions.
It really comes down to this: who do I think will do the least long term damage to NZ? National have taken a very middle of the road approach (you’ll see them often referred to as Labour Lite) and have (in my opinion) done a reasonable job of handling a global economic downturn and the CHCH earthquakes.
I don’t see any great talent in Labour that could do any better. The Greens are idealists with no practical experience and no sign of the discipline/expertise required to manage a national economy.
I don’t necessarily like John Key, and I don’t necessarily trust him, but I don’t believe he wants anyone to be worse off. It doesn’t matter what he said in 1995, it doesn’t matter what he said over the cup of tea. It doesn’t matter that he said he wouldn’t raise GST – he also decided to cancel a tranche of tax cuts due to the economic situation, and I think he was right to do that.
Anyway, I had a look at your link. As I understand it you’re blaming John Key’s position with Merrill Lynch in 1997 for the subprime crisis. Hmm, do you also think Bush engineered 9/11?
Me, I blame the US Democrats for starting the sub-prime catastrophe, first by legislating loans for bad risks (because poor people will be empowered by having big mortgages) and then by blocking regulation of Fanny and Freddie. Certainly the banks capitalised on this situation, and they’re every bit the vultures they’re said to be. There should have been no bailout of the banks (and our finance company guarantee in NZ shouldn’t have had to cover the interest on top of the deposits, but that’s a side issue) – a free market approach would have let them fail – but in the US the government (Republican or Democrat) is loathe to let the status quo fail.
National have taken a very middle of the road approach and have done a reasonable job of handling a global economic downturn and the CHCH earthquakes.
More bullshit RN. You make it sound as if the job is done.
Middle of the road means hands off and let the market dictate yeah ?…Let people sort their own shit out. Don’t get down and dirty, show a clean pair of gloves and just manage the photo ops.
Like Brownlees handling of Pike river ?…and this is the chump we have in charge of the ChCh rebuild. A fat fucking failed woodwork teacher. Is that the bar for discipline and expertise you’re referring to ?
I’m sure Labour could put someone better qualified in charge. Don’t you ?
Here is a link to a guy who petrified me as he is a red neck Texan loud mouth and if you had told me three years ago I would actually listen to this guy I would have thought you utterly mad and yes until a couple of years ago I identified mostly with what is seen as leftist ideology but I believe we are in for hell and if it all goes pear shaped I want this guy to be in my camp.
Little was educated at New Plymouth Boys’ High School and studied law, philosophy and public policy at Victoria University of Wellington in the 1980s. After graduating he took a job as a lawyer with the Engineers’ Union (a forerunner of the EPMU). In 1997 he was appointed the union’s general counsel (chief lawyer).
After leaving high school, he worked in his family’s timber business, and received training in carpentry. Later he qualified as a teacher. He then taught woodwork and crafts at high-school level at Ellesmere College, and later at St Bede’s College. At St Bede’s he taught woodwork and graphics.
Doesn’t even look like Brownlee left school with School C or UE but let’s not let being a fat, useless, dumb, brownnosing, career politician, prick stand in the way of being in charge of rebuilding a city eh ?
The resident muppet bleats: “eastbay you’re the fucking troll you idiot. Intolerant abusive comments like yours and elaycees and murrays and beryls and dimes and bruvs are forever derailing threads. Can’t you fucking see that? Fuck you are stupid.”
Ha ha – thank you for your ‘contribution’… but just as well someone else didn’t say that because you’d go running like a squealing little piggie all the way to the blog owner complaining that we were being mean and nasty to you.
“eastbay you’re the fucking troll you idiot. Intolerant abusive comments like yours and elaycees and murrays and beryls and dimes and bruvs are forever derailing threads”
how did i make that list??? because i pointed out your unfortunate personality after reading 2000+ of your inane comments.
and then you follow it up with:
“Fuck you are stupid.”
well thats charming.
I get it though. In real life you never quite made it did ya? you work for people that you think arent as smart as you. lifes tough. so, you have an online presence. you start out here as a patronising fuck, but most of us let it slide. then you start to get even more high and mighty and people start to give you a bit of stick. this incenses you as your cyber life is starting to reflect your real life. unfortunately you dont have the social tools to say “yea sorry guys, just being a dick.. but heres what i think etc”. oh no, you think the solution is to become even more of a douche bag and then start getting upset. now, youre forever known as a weak as piss, socially inept bitch boy on kiwiblog and your cyber life is just like your real life. and ya know what makes it cool? i know for a fact that you work for a dude just like me 🙂 hell, ive had employees just like you. i bet it just grates you. hell, i bet youre the sort of guy that strippers are scared of.
in summary, you have half a brain, but no social skills. youre a loser.
Dime accurately assesses: “now, you’re forever known as a weak as piss, socially inept bitch boy on kiwiblog and your cyber life is just like your real life…” and then “…in summary, you have half a brain, but no social skills. you’re a loser.”
Your words are simply beautiful, dime – they almost bring a tear to the eye… 😛
For all you KB chaps and chapess’s wot appreciate a bit of real kulture and with regard to the latest polls I have penned the following little ditty entitled. “The Running on EmEmPee” song.
In view of CER to be sung to the tune of “Waltzing Matilda”. 🙂
Once a jolly PM camped in the Beehive
Under the veil of personality
And he sang as he watched and waited while poor Goofy failed
You’ll never beat one as wonderful as me.
One such as me, One such as me
You’ll never beat one as electable as me
And he sang as he watched and waited while poor Goofy failed
You’ll never beat one as rich as me.
Down came a Banksy to drink from the people’s trough
Up jumped the PM to take him for tea
And he sang as watched and waited while poor Goofy failed
You’ll never get more votes than me
One such as me, One such as me
You’ll never equal one such as me
And he sang as he watched and waited while poor Goofy failed
You’ll never ever get the numbers on me
Up rode old Dunne mounted on Ohariu
Up rode his barbers one, two, three.
What will you give me to keep my majority?
Then I’ll come a dancing PM with thee.
Dancing with me, dancing with me
They’ll all come a dancing with nice Johnny Key
And he sang as he watched and waited till poor Goofy failed
Lets all go a dancing with nice Johnny Key
Up jumped the Maoris after a freebee
What will you give us Hone Key?
I’ll give you the foreshore and the seabed
If you’ll all come a dancing along with me
Dancing with Hone, dancing with Hone
Who’ll come a dancing with nice Hone Key
And he sang as he watched and waited while poor Goofy failed
Never more you’ll get the Maoris off of me!
And the ghost of poor Rod may be heard from the Beehive
Why don’t you Greenies go waltzing with Key?
You will get much more progress on your itinerary
If you all go a waltzing with nice Greenie Key
Waltzing with Hone Key, waltzing with Greenie Key
Who’ll go a waltzing with Johnny Key this year
The election it is in the bag. We remember the dreadful Hag
Johnny Key will waltz the election this year
A wizened little brown man said I really hate to dance
To anybody’s music, other than mine
If I get enough percentage of the stupid peoples vote
The melody you’ll dance to will be a tune of mine
Waltzing with Winston waltzing with Winston
We’ll all go a waltzing with Winston again
And the death of MMP will be read out on election night
If we all go a waltzing with Winston again
This was the result however of some $200 lobbying and was the event all the bankers were waiting for in order to be able to start the looting in earnest. The law was de facto repealed in 1997 and de jura in 1998.
What I am saying is that John Key lied about his involvement with what to this date is the biggest attack on a single currency with Andrew Krieger, about his involvement with the collapse of the Thai bath and the LTCM hedgefund after the collapse of which he had to fire most of his colleagues earning him the nickname of the Smiling Assassin and how he is still Lying about transrail shares, meeting with bigwigs and other assorted secrecy issues. That is a pattern I don’t like in a PM.
At the moment in Europe in rapid succession entire countries are being taken over by unelected bankers. They who have caused all the problems are now supposed to sort the problems out mush to the disgust of their peoples. Here we vote our one in.
I don’t know who perpetrated 911 but I do know that not even 19 angry young Arab men with box cutters can break the laws of Physics. Did you know that a third building collapsed on 911? Not hit by planes but through simple office fires?
FWIW – travellerev is one Standard regular who is an individual who will argue strongly and won’t join in with the blinkered swarm attacks (which as has been mentioned are sometimes actively supported by a certain moderator).
WTF??? I read the first few posts here yesterday about the DOS and come back today to see a TROLL engaging in unproven tinfoil hat conspiracy theories. TROLL-OFF this crap onto another thread (GD) or better still onto your own site where you can talk to yourself…
I have no affiliation with Iain other than that his info is corroborated by my research. I do not get paid or endorsed by any political party and have no affiliation with anyone other then myself and my research. I have no sympathy for labour or National and your aggression is unjustified and tedious and does not add to an adult exchange of information.
A Troll is someone who adds nothing to any discussion and whose only response to any real discussion is to tell people to Fuck off. That seems to be what you are doing. I have to give it to Farrar that although I do not share his opinions gives free speech its due so if it is all the same to you I will stay here and if you are prepared to engage in a healthy exchange of ideas I’ll engage other wise I’ll just ignore your silly tantrums. Have a nice day!
travellerev: Thank you for confirming that you talk crap – your earlier comment “I have no affiliation with Iain other than that his info is corroborated by my research” doesn’t quite sit with your subsequent “I have permission from Iain to use his material”..
I have only found his blog two days ago through one of my facebook friends and contacted him and asked permission to link to his stuff and to give him permission to link to my stuff.
You will see that I have had this blog four five years or so and that I have done my own research for many, many years.
If it’s OK with you I have I think explained myself enough and will consider this exchange with you finished. If on the other hand you would attempt to exchange about the facts in the many other links I have given above I will consider engaging with you again. Have a nice day.
I apologise for diverting the thread as it is not my habit to hijack threads and I had planned to engage in the thread concerning the tape issue as it would have fitted there better and it was only after the blog had gone off line that I noticed I had planted my links on the wrong thread. Anyway some gentlemen were happy to engage so I didn’t pay it no mind. Also I think if it had upset the moderator he would have pointed the error of my ways out. Wouldn’t you think so? To be honest I think your dissing me is really just another type of trolling. Have a nice day!!