Top 10 shortcomings

November 8th, 2011 at 2:12 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports that Phil Goff has called the Prime Minister smug and released a top 10 of the Government’s shortcomings.

I thought that I would respond with a top 10 list of ’s shortcomings:

  1. Phil Goff
  2. Phil Goff
  3. Phil Goff
  4. Phil Goff
  5. Phil Goff
  6. Phil Goff
  7. Phil Goff
  8. Phil Goff
  9. Trevor Mallard
  10. Phil Goff

Much simpler to do.

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43 Responses to “Top 10 shortcomings”

  1. Bazar (37 comments) says:

    This is a post of such quality i’d expect to find at thestandard.

    Bleh

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  2. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Shit really? Even the stardard laughs at Goff now? Well it was only a matter of time wasn’t it.

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  3. tas (625 comments) says:

    DPF, I think that’s unfair. Phil Goff is decent and I’d have no qualms about voting for him. The problem is that the party is a shambles, their policy is loony, and Goff hasn’t been able to fix those two problems.

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  4. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Seriously DPF? There’s much more material to work with

    1. Trevor Mallard
    2. Phil Goff
    3. Annette King
    4. Darien Fenton
    5. Carmel Sepuloni
    6. Clare Curran
    7. Charles Chauvel
    8. David Cunliffe
    9. Ruth Dyson
    10. Raymond Huo

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  5. alwyn (427 comments) says:

    That list will really annoy Trevor you know.
    He thinks he’s much more important than that and really ought to up in at least fourth position.
    Watch out in the street. He might try and run you down with his bike when you are on a pedestrian crossing.

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  6. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    Wot no Helen Clark? I suggest you take 2 panadol and have a lie down, you’re obviously not feeling well.

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  7. jaba (2,142 comments) says:

    I’m pretty much with Rightnow above .. Moroney just misses out.
    what gets me is that prior to be appointed leader by Clark, Goff was thought of as a good bloke, a little goofy maybe, but a solid loyal Minister even if he has a diploma in Flip-Flops over the decades .. look at his legacy now

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  8. thedavincimode (6,777 comments) says:

    tas

    The fuckwit Goff is an out and out liar. Time and time again. He has spent three years in opposition lying and now on the election trail. If he isn’t lying, he is so deliberately misleading in what he says that it is tantamount to a lie. Witness “selling control of assets overseas” and 25% returns on the super fund. A while ago, it was the SIS briefing. He started with the “particularly attractive asian woman” three years ago and it set the tone for his “leadership”.

    That does not make the fuckwit Goff “decent”. He lies like a flat fish. He is not just a fool. He is a thoroughly unpleasant fool and in three weeks time we no longer have to see or hear from him again.

    Perhaps some public spirited soul has actually kept a log of of his lies. If so, please step up to the mike …

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  9. Inventory2 (10,342 comments) says:

    Phil Goff can rant and rave about the economy all he likes, but he ignores the fact that Micahel Cullen left National a decade of deficits (source: 2008 Prefu).

    But it matters not a jot; the phone is off the hook, and no-one but the most die-hard Labour tribalists is interested in anything that Phil Goff says.

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  10. Inventory2 (10,342 comments) says:

    @thedavincimode – Whaleoil has been running a “Phil Goff’s lies” series over the last week or so. But there are so many, he’s having trouble keeping up.

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  11. hmmokrightitis (1,590 comments) says:

    If goofy had, as he has claimed, a pair, he would have:

    1. Sacked his shadow cabinet, bought new blood on
    2. Thrown the rule book out and offered to form a joint government with National as a result of Christchurch and the economy, seeking senior roles for key ministers, even in support roles, for policy areas where there were only tiny diffferences
    3. Reset the agenda – bagging JK is epic fail territory
    4. Realised that giving away money now is so utterly contemptable that it should be his epithet

    Goofy, I dont doubt you are well intentioned. But damn, you had a chance, you could have blown 9 years of cobwebs away, but you chose to re arranage those deckchairs, not realising that labour, with hulun at the helm, had for 9 years been heading towards a great big fucker of an iceberg. You had your chance to reset and rebuild, you missed it.

    Pity really. Great entertainment value though. :)

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  12. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    @ tdVM – no really, tell us what you really think!! :)

    God I hope he really is gone for good by the start of 2012. Of course then we will have a coterie of complete nut job Green MPs in the house to replace him.

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  13. homepaddock (408 comments) says:

    If those two were the party’s only shortcomings, fixing it would be easy. There’s a lot more to address than them.

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  14. Nick R (507 comments) says:

    To be fair, I don’t think Phil Goff is the first person to call John Key smug. I’m pretty sure I even heard the PM use the word himself in a recent interview, although of course that was in the way of a denial. But if the PM feels the need, without prompting, to deny being smug, there has to be a pretty good chance he (or his focus group people) have already heard the comment. Probably more than once.

    I don’t agree with DPF’s top 10 BTW. I reckon Labour’s main drawback is the instinct to spend money. I was prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt unitl this latest announcement. But announcing huge across the board increases in benefits at a time like this is a real stunner.

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  15. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    I’d be bloody smug to with that sort of approval rating too.

    When did we make it illegal to be smug anyway? We clearly have an open door policy on assholes in politics judging by labours campaing strategy to date.

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  16. tristanb (1,127 comments) says:

    tas:

    I think that’s unfair. Phil Goff is decent and I’d have no qualms about voting for him.

    He’s the leader of the party. You can see in Phil’s heart that he doesn’t really believe the things he’s saying. I don’t think he likes Labour’s current policies. They’re not good for NZ and they’re not good for the Labour Party.

    A capable leader woudn’t allow his party to go to shit like this. A good person wouldn’t campaign on policies he is opposed to.

    I still sort of feel sorry for Goff, because I think he might be sacrificing himself this election. I’m not sure if he’s complicit with the sacrifice (has he been guaranteed an awesome cushy UN job after Labour rolls him) or if he’s forced to do it. He has been a politician most of his life sucking on the taxpayer’s teat, so he might be taking one for the team.

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  17. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    ouch !!!

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  18. tas (625 comments) says:

    tristanb: I completely agree.

    I don’t think Goff believes in the policies he is selling. He is the Labour leader in name only. He is being forced to regurgitate policies from Labour’s far left.

    All politicians lie–Goff’s entire campaign is a lie. But I think his personal beliefs are decent, even if he lacks the decency to stand up for them more often. I said I’d be willing to vote for him, not his party.

    hmmokrightitis: I also agree. A real leader would not be toeing the party line, he would be dictating it.

    But my original point remains. Goff is given too much of the blame for Labour’s failure. Sure, he deserves a hefty chunk, but I doubt anyone could have done much better given what he had to deal with.

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  19. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    I don’t think Goff believes in the policies he is selling.

    What twaddle !!!

    Of course he believes in them. Passionately and with total conviction I believe. For the simple fact that he i reckon he honestly thinks they are in the best interests of the wider society as a whole.

    Key’s last cornerstone policy of taxcuts have benefitted the well to do when they needn’t have. They weren’t neccessary. They didn’t stimulate the economy. Didn’t create more jobs. Business confidence is still in the shitter. They just increased the wealth gap between the haves and have nots.

    Donut Garners figures on 3 news showed as much, but what they didn’t show was the across the board increase of GST wiping out any take homepay increase lower income peoples got. Factor those in and you got the gap widening to become a chasm.

    State asset sales will do the same and they too aren’t neccessary. They won’t stimulate the economy, create jobs or restore business confidence. They’ll just put more money into the pockets of those who need it least and allow the free market to gouge the less fortunate even more.

    So if you want more crime, higher incarceration rates, riots and looting then by all means vote Key in again cos thats the social cost which will be borne out by all of us.

    And if you’re looking for businesses other than state assets to invest in, maybe look at starting an all inclusive gun licensing, import and shooting range or maybe a personal security firm with a tidy line in alarms cos you’re gonna need em real soon.

    Of course by then don’t go looking to Key for answers, he hasn’t got any besides more frontline police and privatising prisons. Besides he woulda bailed to Hawai’i by then and left Labour to clean up the mess and deal with the consequences of his failed policies.

    Face it, he’s too chickenshit to deal with the hard problems facing NZ in the near future and too cowardly to admit it. Once those assets are sold the only thing left in his bag is to keep selling until we’ve, as the story goes

    EATEN THE HOUSE !!!

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/property/news/article.cfm?c_id=8&objectid=10764292

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  20. tristanb (1,127 comments) says:

    BwaV:

    So if you want more crime, higher incarceration rates, riots and looting then by all means vote Key

    At last, a rational voice! You forgot the earthquakes, children dying in the streets and the portal to Hell!

    tas:

    But I think his personal beliefs are decent, even if he lacks the decency to stand up for them more often. I said I’d be willing to vote for him, not his party.

    Well, how do you tell he even has personal beliefs? If you vote for him, you vote for whichever ideas some butch lezzy or self-serving unionist can bully him into doing. If he owned a grocer, I might shop there, but I probably wouldn’t vote for him, and definitely don’t think he’s political party leader material.

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  21. tristanb (1,127 comments) says:

    BwaV:

    Besides he woulda bailed to Hawai’i by then

    You know if I had John Key’s money I’d be hopping between tropical islands, have two dozen 18 year old girlfriends, staying in resorts getting poor workers in Asia to serve me food, drive fast cars, never cook again, and drink myself into a fat lump of spoiled shit. Most people would. Look at guys like Hotchin.

    The fact JK actually gives this up to lead our country shows that he cares more about the country than many people here. Much more than dickheads who keep threatening to leave to Australia.

    The only people who believe that negative crap you spout about him having a home in Hawaii are hardcore Labour supporters anyway. It doesn’t work to convince anyone here, and it doesn’t wash with 70% of the country. I’d give it up – you just sound bitter.

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  22. slijmbal (1,236 comments) says:

    was at a Birthday dinner last night at a restaurant – adult daughter of the mate whose birthday it was wouldn’t vote for Goff as “he’s a dick” – quote unquote

    She had no real idea about policy other than Labour spend and National don’t and the country is skint

    Surprisingly prescient ……………..

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  23. Nookin (3,352 comments) says:

    “Of course he believes in them. Passionately and with total conviction I believe. For the simple fact that he i reckon he honestly thinks they are in the best interests of the wider society as a whole.”

    So how come he changes his mind every 10 minutes? Labour has policies like Video-ezy has DVDs. They pluck them off the shelve randomly.

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  24. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    The last 3 posts merely serve to highlight how truly ignorant, morally bankrupt and lacking in good judgment the political right is.

    Truly i despair for this country of ours that such short sighted, narrow minded bigots as your good selves are prepared to sacrifice the nation’s great wealth for the sake of partisan political point scoring.

    Ui mai koe ki ahau he aha te mea nui o te ao, Māku e kī atu he tangata, he tangata, he tangata!

    Ask me what is the greatest thing in the world, I will reply: It is people, it is people, it is people!

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  25. thedavincimode (6,777 comments) says:

    BWAV

    “State asset sales will do the same and they too aren’t neccessary. They won’t stimulate the economy, create jobs or restore business confidence. They’ll just put more money into the pockets of those who need it least and allow the free market to gouge the less fortunate even more.”

    Read the news.

    1. The purpose of the asset sales is not stimulation of the economy or creation of jobs and restoration of business confidence. It is to fund capital expenditure that would otherwise have to be funded by borrowing.

    2. A by-product of that new capital expenditure will be some stimluation of the economy, creation of some jobs and restoration of a degree of business confidence as a consequence of the business opportunities arising for the contractors undertaking those capital works, service industries servicing those contractors and the flow on effect (multiplier) on the economy. That is not its purpose.

    3. One of the reasons this country is fucked is that Liabore spent nine years driving a consumption bender in our economy by pissing money against the wall. The trouble with that is that eventually the music stops and when everyone is standing around looking for a chair, they realise that they haven’t been doing anything particularly useful. That is typically what happens under Liabore. The great irony is that although these benders can provide employment, the people that suffer the most are in fact those at the bottom end of the financial heap. eg: House prices go through the roof, all the unproductive jobs disappear.

    4. The role of government is not to prime the pump and generate economic activity for the sake of it. It is in fact to create an economic, commercial and regulatory environment that enables entrepeneurs and investors to invest and employ with confidence. Governments make poor business entrepeneurs. National has spent the last three years implementing structural changes that will facilitate business growth and confidence. It has also implemented changes in health, education and social policy to improve outcomes and deliver more value to the people who pay for it; being the top 20% of income earners. But you can’t seriously think that NZ on its own, or any NZ government, is going to be able to solve the current global problem. What NZ government could have stopped the Christchurch earthquake? Should we just go ahead and start rebuilding to get things going for the sake of it?

    5. You may fear for the future of this country, but you should fear any prospect of a Liabore government much more. If you think that National has produced the current social environment then you are in denial. That environment is a product of decades of injustice for your mob, a lack leadership within it and its progressive Honefication, and a general inter-generational decline in social standards around personal responsibility and the encouragement of that decline by policies of the last government in particular.

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  26. Manolo (13,828 comments) says:

    Ask me what is the greatest thing in the world, I will reply: It is people, it is people, it is people!

    Cannibalism anyone? :D

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  27. thedavincimode (6,777 comments) says:

    Ui mai koe ki ahau he aha te mea nui o te ao, Māku e kī atu he money, he money, he money! :)

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  28. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    Cannibalism anyone?

    Proabably, i mean after you’ve eaten the house what left is there ?

    …kind of like Maori when they mismanaged the Moa population.

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  29. Nookin (3,352 comments) says:

    For someone who regards people as so important, BWAV, one would have thought that you would have brushed up on some people skills rather than descend to ad hom, sarcastic rants that contribute nothing to the debate. A bit like Goff really.

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  30. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    In these times of trouble and strife is exactly when we need to be bold, brave and visionary
    not short sighted, cowardly and conservative.

    Clearly the status quo isn’t working otherwise we wouldn’t have record debt and unemloyment and
    simply blaming the previous gov’t for the problems shows a distinctly gutless lack of ownership.

    Forgetting for a moment the tragedies that have befallen NZ in recent times, Phil Goff’s top ten FACTS of:

    - Unemployment increased by 50 per cent, leaving 157000 Kiwis out of work.

    – 100,000 Kiwis left for Australia

    – Prices up nearly four times faster than incomes.

    – First credit rating downgrade in 13 years.

    – 60,000 more on benefits costing $1b

    – Wage gap with Australia increased by $32 a week.

    – 55,200 people aged 15 to 24 not in education, employment or training.

    – Economy grown by just 0.4 per cent

    – Tax cuts actually cost an extra $1.1b in their first nine months.

    – Underclass grown with 32000 more children living on benefit dependant households.

    …are indisputable.

    If NZ were a business, all Key would have done in his term of office is cut jobs and give himself a bonus for doing it by way of an unneccessary taxcut.His pay increase alone was more than 2 average students get to survive on week in, week out.

    For all the rhetoric about growing the economy and creating 170 000 jobs it remains for all to be seen that he is merely espousing a pipe dream the nation’s clouded judgment is reflecting in recent polls by favouring National to record a landslide victory in the upcoming election.

    In no single policy is Key’s short sightedness and cowardice to face and deal with the hard truths better exemplified and Labours bravery showcased than in their respective policies to tackle high youth unemployment.

    Labour has a four-year $251-million package, which includes replacing $8700 dole payments
    into subsidies for 9000 apprenticeship places.

    The party is also proposing 5000 new training places for 16 and 17-year-olds, including 2000
    with Maori and Pasifika mentoring.

    “Youth unemployment represents for us a potentially much longer issue for New Zealand,” Labour’s youth affairs spokeswoman Jacinda Ardern said.

    meanwhile…

    Social Development Minister Paula Bennett released a controversial policy last month to extend the $10.40 starting out wage for 16 and 17 year olds from three months, or 200 hours, to six months.

    Prime Minister John Key said it would give young workers a “much-needed foot in the door”.

    The National-led Government has also put aside $55.2 million over four years in the 2011 Budget for job ops, skills for growth, and volunteers programmes – all aimed at getting young people skills and work.

    “We know the majority of young people can find their way into work independently, so we’re targeting those who really need help gaining the skills, confidence and education to get into a
    good job,” Bennett said.

    “This approach is aimed at providing every opportunity so these young people don’t end up on welfare.”

    For an estimated 1600 youth on welfare, National planned to introduce firmer obligations to stay on track.

    Get that ??? low wages and greater policing for youth equals a foot in the door. More like a kick in the haed or a foot to the throat is what i’d say. Nevermind that the jobs simply aren’t there for even the adult population.

    So yeah, whats this brighter future he’s building and who’s he building it for again ?…Well, obviously not Pasifika inclusive of Maori nor youth. Both demographics of which a brighter future clearly rests on.

    If John Key had the balls to state his personal truth it’d be…

    “Fuck ‘em all…MUAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAA”

    …cos thats exactly what he’s doing. Only the joke it seems is, he’s conned the country into laughing along with him. But you won’t see me laughing, not even when there’s blood in the streets directly attributable to his cowardice.

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  31. thedavincimode (6,777 comments) says:

    If you want to be taken seriously, then try and understand what is actually happening.

    Don’t recycle the fuckwit Goff’s bullshit. You’re railing from a position of ignorance and deliberately ignoring the reality. And why don’t you re-direct your energy to towards telling the people that you’re defending to take some personal responsibility and stop beating and killing their kids.

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  32. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    The reality is, those facts are indisputable DVM, and have happened on John Key’s watch.

    Dude needs to…MAN UP, GROW A PAIR, OWN THAT SHIT AND DEAL WITH IT !!!

    …and so should you, cos it’s only going to get worse if Key gets back in again.

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  33. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    Haha – “…when there’s blood in the streets directly attributable to his cowardice..” is just a regurgitated rant along similar lines under the name of Pollywog.

    Quelle surprise.

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  34. kiwi in america (2,454 comments) says:

    Voter’s aren’t buying Labour’s policies Black no matter how you spin it – Labour down 5% in 1 week in Faifax poll!

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  35. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    Why the strange fixation with pollywog L.A.C ?

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  36. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    yes i can read too K.I.A.

    style over substance i think it’s called…

    …sad indictment on the judgement and intelligence of your average NZ voter eh?

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  37. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    Pollywog / BWAV: Sure you want to go there?

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  38. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    should i answer that question with another question ?

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  39. kiwi in america (2,454 comments) says:

    Black
    Yep when voters dont do the right thing and vote for what the left wants its always the fault of those pesky, ill informed callow voters. If only they would just read Labour’s manifesto and ignore John Key’s smiling and waving they’d see what’s good for them. Voters know what Labour wants and they dont want it. They saw you guys in action for 9 years and dont want a repeat of it. Simple really.

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  40. Unsolicitedious (13 comments) says:

    I agree with Right now

    I would be inclined to list Labour’s shortcomings as:

    1) Trevor Mallard (honestly what good has that man even done? At least Phil is a “nice guy”)
    2) Phil Goff
    3) Annette King
    4) Maryan Street
    5) Darien Fenton
    6) Jacinda Ardern
    7) Chris Hipkins
    eight: Ruth Dyson
    9) Clare Curran

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  41. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    But K.I.A

    Voters have seen what Key has delivered in 3 years. It’s way worse and destined to get even more so.

    If they knew what was good for them in the long term they’d vote his smiling, waving economy assassinating ass out now before he and his cronies do even more damage.

    Sadly most people these days don’t tend to know what’s good for them. Sold on the ads they just don’t read the fine print on the packaging and we wonder why we’ve got alcohol, obesity and other health related issues or drunken monkeys for prime ministers.

    If voters know what Labour wants is a decent society for all and to redistribute the wealth to the most vulnerable that we as nation may prosper in the long term then why aren’t they voting for them ?

    Because it’s not about policies. It’s about personalities. Celebrity endorsed instantly gratifying ones making empty promises they have no intention of keeping. Liars and thieves spoonfeeding the masses in the mainstream media gobs full of shite and telling them it’s cake. Charlatans selling a fairytale fantasy of a brighter future if only they choose it. Only it isn’t as simple as choosing.

    sorry, but i’m just not fucking buying it eh !!!

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  42. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    “sorry, but i’m just not fucking buying it eh !!!” well lucky you, NZ is a democracy with proportional representation. You get to vote how you like.

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  43. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    Yup and i’ll also get to wear the social cost of Nationals blinkered short sightedness too…

    …and probably his rolling over so that bigoted crook Banks can get in and scratch his belly. Hell maybe he might swing dragging the crusty ol Don back in for one more swill at the trough too.

    Thanks nice Mr Key…Thanks for fucking nothing, but yes i do look fetching in my socially costed revolutionary garb and yes that tie does bring out the colour in your blodshot vampire eyes.

    suits you sir.

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