Watkins on Labour on Key

November 12th, 2011 at 9:04 am by David Farrar

writes:

Remember the American bag man? The H-bomb? Labour has so far tried shock jock policy (raising the retirement age); taking the moral high ground in the policy debate (a capital gains tax), and gone back to tried and true policies with sweeteners in the form of generous welfare payments, union-friendly law changes and a rise in the minimum wage. But with the polls still showing Labour adrift at below 30 per cent, expect the campaign to turn personal in the final two weeks. Phil Goff has already signalled that is the direction Labour is headed by labelling Mr Key a liar over GST, attacking him over his Hawaiian holiday home, capitalising on his perceived weakness – which is to appear smug – and attacking his credibility.

Since Mr Key became National leader, Labour has also sought to get up various stories, including that Mr Key’s blind trust was a sham; questioning whether he made a false declaration in relation to his electoral address; seeking to link the Government’s BMW contract to National Party donations and a Parnell neighbour of Mr Key’s; and accusing him of mis-stating the number of TranzRail shares he owned.

Last, but not least, was the H-bomb in the 2008 campaign – Labour’s attempt to link Mr Key to a 1980s financial scandal, which exploded in its face after it emerged that it had mistaken someone else’s signature for Mr Key’s. So far this campaign, Mr Goff has tried to avoid a full-frontal personal attack, but the closer to the election we get, the more direct we can expect the attacks to be.

The burning question is whether Labour will follow past form and try to drop a bomb in the final week of the campaign. The advantage of doing it that close to the election date, of course, is you don’t have to prove it till after the polls have closed. The disadvantage is that voters punish negative campaigns.

And of course such proof will never eventuate.

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19 Responses to “Watkins on Labour on Key”

  1. tvb (3,947 comments) says:

    Labour is playing dirty and that in my view is a contributing factor in their vote leaking away to minor parties, plus people do not want Goff as PM. He started the campaign saying he will focus on policy and then promptly ran a personal campaign against Key. That sort of campaign bolsters your hard core supporters but it is a big turn-off for swinging voters. Perhaps Labour’s hard core is all that is listening to Goff now.

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  2. niggly (779 comments) says:

    Tracy Watkins’ excerpt highlights yet again Labour’s unattractive obsession with smears, muck-raking, lies and lack of credibility.

    The mystery though is, even though they highlight it, why the MSM in general doesn’t turn feral on Labour and kick them into the gutter with their nonsense.

    Imagine if it were National or ACT that behaved like Labour? The MSM would be kicking them in the gutter and Nicky Hagar would be writing books about it.

    Thankfully the people of NZ see through Labour’s bullshit hence Labour polling in the 20′s-30′s for the last 3 years. Pity the MSM have lagged behind mainstream NZ’er thinking.

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  3. jaba (2,069 comments) says:

    “The burning question is whether Labour will follow past form and try to drop a bomb in the final week of the campaign”.
    yes, yes they will .. I have no doubt at all that they have at least one more bullet to fire be it a bribe of all bribes (aimed at students or Maori) or a scandal be it true or otherwise.

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  4. Other_Andy (2,079 comments) says:

    @niggly
    The LSM (Lame Stream Media) has been in the left’s pocket for a while now.
    It is the same in the US.
    Obama, Holder, Pelosi are given a free pass while they desperately try to find any dirt on the Republicans and those not on the left.

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  5. Black with a Vengeance (1,552 comments) says:

    The LSM (Lame Stream Media) has been in the left’s pocket for a while now.

    spin it the other way and you get pretty lights to accompany the bok bok bok sound.

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  6. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    What would be a good idea is Mr Key making a speech over the weekend pre-empting this – “fasten your seatbelts folks for 10 days of disgusting personal abuse against me from a desperate Labour party; just remember they are making it all up to shock people and know they don’t have to prove it until after the election”

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  7. Monty (949 comments) says:

    Over at Red Alert Trev is continueing his nasty campaign. As usual he is moderating comments out of existance as it can only allowed to be a echo chamber for the “wonderful Labour Party”

    He has taken to calling Brash and Banks Old Codgers and Racists. Trev really is a vicious nasty prick. He is a bully who gives it but cannot take it. This same attitude poisons the entire Labour party. They really are nasty bastards.

    so in the interests of ensuring my views are published on the Nasty Party here are two posts in Red Alert moderation that if Trev had his way would never see the light of day.

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    Monty says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    November 12, 2011 at 10:16 am
    Not so sure I fully agree with you Trev when you say than Any Nat votes will only come from Act.

    In 2008 a good friend (Fireman) had been staunch Labour supporter for 25 years plus. He could not abide the Nats, but was so disillusioned that he cast his vote in Favour of Act because of their liberal policy platform.

    Although not many, I suspect that Act may pick up – but not many votes from disheartened Labour supporters, who cannot stomach the Greenies, despise Winston, and still want to vote.

    With two weeks togo this is shaping up as a defining election. National on current polling look set to win, and John Key needs to do what he can to ensure no right wing votes are wasted.

    God help us if Winston is returned. That will not be a good day for NZ Politics. 4.9% support for Winston will be just about perfect.
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    Monty says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    November 12, 2011 at 10:23 am
    Trev – just re-read your post. You really are being offensive when you call Banks and Brash Racists. Having followed politics for a long time, I would say the most racist people in the political framework currently are Hone and Winston.

    But I think you also need to look close to home for hate based solely on personal views. While not racism, the scorn and comments of some of your colleagues for anything on the right side of the spectrum is truely distasteful.

    Calling Brash / Banks racists and old codgersjust gives guys Like Cam Slater more material for posts on Labour being the Nasty Party.

    I guess you will moderate this post out of existance because you cannot handle the criticism.

    Click to EditRequest Deletion (4 minutes and 43 seconds)

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  8. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    “# Black with a Vengeance (549) Says:
    November 12th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    The LSM (Lame Stream Media) has been in the left’s pocket for a while now.

    spin it the other way and you get pretty lights to accompany the bok bok bok sound.”

    Do you have ANYTHING to support your assertion that the media are right biased blackie and that you’re not just a hapless hopless left wing troll paid to simply say the opposite to everyone who is cabable of origional thought?

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  9. Other_Andy (2,079 comments) says:

    “Do you have ANYTHING to support your assertion that the media are right biased blackie and that you’re not just a hapless hopless left wing troll paid to simply say the opposite to everyone who is cabable of origional thought?”

    To which IV2 would have replied……….

    “Do big, brown bears shit in the woods?”

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  10. s.russell (1,486 comments) says:

    That sort of campaign bolsters your hard core supporters but it is a big turn-off for swinging voters.

    Exactly! At this point Labour is simply desperate to protect its core vote – to save the seats of their useless union hack MPs. They gave up on actually winning the election long ago.
    Besides anthing that hurts National – even a little – is worthwhile. Think about it – what would Goff prefer:
    a) Labour getting 35% of the vote but losing the election, or
    b) Labour getting 25% of the vote, but Goff becoming PM at the head of a Labour-Green-NZ First- Mana-Maori coalition.
    He’ll take b) thanks. So hurting Labour does not matter if he can only do enough damage to National.

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  11. Inventory2 (9,791 comments) says:

    Here’s another one for you to share with Trevor Monty (I’m banned at Red Alert); a good friend of mine is aged around 60, and Maori. He’s a former freezing worker and union delegate who was tribal Labour until the Maori Party was formed. He voted for the MP in the last two elections, but he will be two ticks National this time around (on the general roll). His rationale: John Key is the only one of the leaders that doesn’t talk down to him, and treat him as though he’s ignorant. He’s sick of Phil Goff lecturing him, and he thinks the Greens are from another planet.

    I just about fell off the chair when he told me he was voting National for the first time ever in his life. It just shows how much that Labour has fallen from its working man’s party roots.

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  12. jaba (2,069 comments) says:

    I wonder what parties are wanting the voting age reduced and politics taught in our schools .. any thoughts?

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  13. Inventory2 (9,791 comments) says:

    @ Other_Andy – quite so – or:

    * Is the Pope a Catholic?
    * Are the Kennedys gun-shy?
    * Does the Pope wear a funny hat?

    or several others of that ilk. But the reference to what the big, brown bear does in the woods is far more appropriate to BWAV’s rantings.

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  14. Black with a Vengeance (1,552 comments) says:

    Do you have ANYTHING to support your assertion that the media are right biased blackie ?

    Government denies MediaWorks loan
    3 Sep 2011
    “Struggling media company MediaWorks is up-to-date with its broadcasting licence payments and has not received a bail-out loan’” Government Communications Minister Steven Joyce says.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/4747311/Government-denies-MediaWorks-loan

    Prime Minister defends loan to MediaWorks
    8 April 2011
    “My view was it made sense. It’s a commercial loan, it’s a secured contract,” Key said.
    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/prime-minister-defends-loan-mediaworks-4109116

    No strings attached…No LIES being told eh ?

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  15. Paulus (2,299 comments) says:

    When you throw muck inevitably some sticks to those who wish to believe it.

    MSM will relish any muck throwing – they are good at it, and would not like to be upstaged.

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  16. Black with a Vengeance (1,552 comments) says:

    Maybe you meant in the dynamic environment of the global world Murray ?

    In which case I could point you to a certain former conservative UK press secretary who made news of the world not so long ago.

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  17. AzaleaB () says:

    BWAV(557), media is right biased in overall coverage due to JK but tends to be significantly more negative in tone to the right. See
    http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/national-party-winning-largest-share-media-coverage-study/5/107172

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  18. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    I think Liarbore are fighting for their political lives, they’ll try anything. In this election they risk getting the beating from hell. There must be a point where they fade into political irrelevancy if they lose to many seats. They lack up and coming members/leaders and a hiding may be all destroy the Liarbore brand. Who wants to be associated with gagglers, wafflers and troughers in a party that is now on the fringes. They are fighting for their lives and I think they realise it’s all or nothing.

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  19. Viking2 (10,744 comments) says:

    Is it possible that the Labour Vote will be so low that TREV will lose his seat?
    Because that would be a good thing.

    Months and months ago I posted that Labour would die. This is their death march.
    What is left will be so disembowled that they will never recover. The interesting fight will be over WHO gets the spolis that are held by the Labour Movement, i.e. the assets like houses, halls, and various other funds held in their organisation.
    Will it be the Rainbows or the Union Movement?

    Douglass and Preeble anticipated this which I suggest is why ACT was born.

    It will be fun to watch.

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