What a Labour-led coalition may look like

November 11th, 2011 at 12:31 pm by David Farrar

In my Herald column, I look at what the Herald Digipoll suggests could be an alternative to a National-led Government – a Labour/Green/NZ First/Maori/Mana Government.

It is hard to imagine Hone Harawira would settle for anything less than Maori Affairs. He would not trust any Department headed up and/or staffed by Pakeha mofos.

Andrew Williams would put his hand up to be Minister of Local Government, bringing all his diplomatic skills to the job. That anguished scream you hear is Len Brown jumping out his Auckland Town Hall office window.

Who knows what bauble Winston Peters would take. He’s already had so many – Deputy PM, Treasurer, Foreign Minister. As he is a lawyer, perhaps he would become the nation’s Attorney-General?

The Greens would be very fortunate. On their current polling Phil Goff would have to make their entire current caucus Ministers of the Crown. Catherine Delahunty would be a shoo-in to be Treaty Negotiations Minister. Has any Ngati Pakeha ever been more supportive of Maori aspiration than Catherine?

This is what people may wake up to on the 27th of November. I do see the bright side though:

As a blogger and political commentator, such a Government would be wonderful. Every day would be wonderfully exciting as Phil Goff (who struggles to have discipline even over his own caucus) tries to get Winston and Hone to agree on what laws he is allowed to pass. With a one vote majority, every single MP and party would have a veto over all Government decisions. This would mean that no one can predict in advance what the Government will do. The biggest beneficiary of such an election result would be the iPredict predictions market.

It would be a blogger’s dream!

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22 Responses to “What a Labour-led coalition may look like”

  1. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    Or… http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/frankenstein-monster-replica-1.jpg

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  2. Elaycee (4,301 comments) says:

    “It would be a blogger’s dream!”

    But it would also be a nightmare for the suckers paying the bills….

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  3. James Stephenson (2,029 comments) says:

    I suspect you laughing so hard as you wrote that column, that typing was a struggle.

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  4. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    And about as stable as Don Knotts on acid.

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  5. adamsmith1922 (888 comments) says:

    DPF

    Please be careful what you dream about, you might wake up and find it is a nightmare of reality.

    There would be major flight of money and people.

    Goff would be a mere figurehead held to ransom by Winston and Hone.

    The only comfort would be the probability of collapse of the government, followed by the return of National with an overwhelming majority.

    Let us hope people will see sense and not vote for this nightmare.

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  6. jaba (2,089 comments) says:

    please don’t joke about these things David .. shudder. The thing is that it is possible a that sort of Govt is possible. When I read websites like the Herald and Dominion for example, there are people who belive a Labour lead Govt will be our saviour

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  7. mavxp (494 comments) says:

    Haha! This post is about encouraging all voters (left and right) to get rid of MMP, and only secondary to encourage fence sitters to go right rather than left.

    Am I right David?

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  8. chris (565 comments) says:

    I find the prospect of such a coalition quite worrying, but it is quite possible it would happen. However, it assumes the Maori Party would actually go with such a potentially unstable coalition arrangement. Surely it would be in their best interests, and that of the country, to continue their relationship with National?

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  9. trout (901 comments) says:

    It is true that the more these various permutations are discussed pre-election the more the perils of MMP will be exposed. Looking at the polls I for one am surprised that the proponents of MMP have not made more of an impact; it appears that the electorate are not as committed to MMP as the activists would have us believe.

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  10. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    David – it would be just like having a vote for a president should we ever be stupid enough to go republican using a vote among the MPs to decide who the president would be.

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  11. Stuart (40 comments) says:

    I came to make my first post (after reading the last few weeks) on the same note mavxp. This looks like a great way to encourage people to boot MMP, which is desperately needed as I am yet to talk to a single person who knew anything about the alternatives in the referendum.

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  12. Paulus (2,501 comments) says:

    MMP continuation will be passed. The general voting public are too apathetic to change to something they do not understand, or care enough about.

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  13. MikeMan (171 comments) says:

    If that eventuated I wonder if the moderates in the NZ Labour party could roll Goff and build a centrist coalition of Nation and Labour (developing on an idea posted by Jo2Lo on NZH site).

    That would leave the coalition having 70+ % by the way I am reading the polls.

    How stable would THAT make NZ politics.

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  14. nasska (10,666 comments) says:

    Anyone like to take a punt on how long such a coalition could last before imploding?

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  15. slightlyrighty (2,496 comments) says:

    The cost to this country of a center left coalition would be staggering.

    Think of what each party has promised, and what a small party would demand in support.

    A minimum wage indexed to the average wage?

    Hone’s Christmas Present of $1000 to all families

    The worst excesses of an ETS

    WFF extended to unemployed

    A burgeoning public Service

    Borrowing to invest in a loss making fund.

    Increased Borrowing overall to fund the lolly scramble.

    There would be a Credit Rating Downgrade. The cost of borrowing, expected to rise due to the Euro situation, would be even worse.

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  16. william blake (106 comments) says:

    I don’t understand the reluctance of the media discussing the possibility of a red / green coalition. Mana and Peters won’t get a mandate lets be realistic here, but if the fringe Nat thinks hard on their party’s environmental record they may well party vote green. It would only take a few percent and JFK would be ex.

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  17. kiwi in america (2,436 comments) says:

    David – you are being true to your “fomenting happy mischief” moniker with this column!

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  18. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    As someone on what I guess would be termed the ‘conservative right’ of nz politics reading that article reminded me why I have voted National in all 6 elections since becoming old enough; it is terrifying to behold such a government and the economic damage, not to mention the social engineering from man hating vexatious women, which would result during the next 3 years.

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  19. Mark (1,362 comments) says:

    this is a possibility if national continue a slide to less than say 47% of the vote.

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  20. Richard29 (377 comments) says:

    Interesting though improbable scenario. It’s notable that you are becoming a lot less balanced and more partisan in your posts as election day gets closer David.

    The most likely outcome on every poll I’ve seen is still a minority National Government with Greens abstaining on confidence and supply to give it a majority for C&S votes. Accommodations to the Greens in some areas like cleaning rivers etc. Otherwise it’d be business as usual with JK passing legislation on a case by case basis with support from various other small parties on their left and right (plus Labour a lot of the time).

    May not be a National party staffers dream outcome, but it’s broadly agreeable to the majority of NZers. JK may not have liked the begging and horse trading required to pass the covert surveilance bill but a lot of New Zealanders appreciated the fact that MMP has put some checks and balances on our parliament. The kind of ‘decisive’ (but often divisive’) governments of the 80′s and 90′s are a thing of the past. Ruth Richardson coming out against MMP and saying that her kind of ‘bold’ reform would not have been possible under MMp is one of the strongest arguments I’ve seen for keeping the MMP system.

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  21. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    I’m cleaning the guns tonight, got two weeks to reload more ammo.

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  22. KevinH (1,131 comments) says:

    DPF is being mischievous with this coalition prediction, the conflicts such an arrangement would create would be a disaster for all and sundry not least including the economy.
    Winston has already gone public that he will sit on the opposition benches, or in plain speak, not work with anyone including Phil, Hone,Metiria, Russel, Tariana or Pita. It would be a hung parliament and Winston would drag it out for months as he has done previously.
    The infighting for positions would mean that another election would have to be called, there would be no winners under such a scenario as predicted by DPF.

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