Compare and contrast

December 12th, 2011 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

Kudos to the for a classy release:

The education sector union NZEI Te Riu Roa is hoping there will be opportunities to forge a strong and constructive working relationship with the new Education Minister. …

“Charter schools, fundamental problems with National Standards, raising Māori student achievement, the government’s failure to commit to 100% qualified early childhood teachers, the future of education in Christchurch, more support for special needs students and recognising the professional work and value of school support staff are all issues which deserve full and open discussion,” says Mr Leckie.

NZEI hopes the new minister will take on these challenges with an inclusive and constructive approach which values the voice of teachers, principals and communities.

It also wishes Anne Tolley well in her newly-appointed roles.

Nice. Now compare that to the PPTA release:

Shakespeare warns John key against duplicity and ambition

“We’ve gifted the prime minister a copy of Shakespeare’s Macbeth, trusting he will reflect on this tale of a popular and respected general’s ambition for power leading to ruin for his country and his own downfall,” says president Robin Duff. …

“The Bard’s cautionary tale of political morality is the third in our series of literary gifts to Mr Key,” he said.

“The first was a New Zealand Oxford Dictionary as we were concerned that the prime minister was using some words ambiguously. The second book was Niccolo Machiavelli’s influential 16th century treatise on power and politics, The Prince, that serves as a useful resource for discussions about principle and probity in political life.”

Robin Duff said the fourth book will look at what lessons literature provides about the growing gap between rich and poor.

How patronising can you get? The PPTA have obviously decided that constructive engagement is for others.

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32 Responses to “Compare and contrast”

  1. immigant (950 comments) says:

    Oh yeah the PPTA just want what’s best for our kids, their decisions are not politicaly motivated.

    Tui Billboard – PPTA want what’s best for teh kids not for Labour.

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  2. dime (8,778 comments) says:

    PPTA = bunch of c*$^$

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  3. BeaB (1,958 comments) says:

    This is what makes so many kids hate school.
    Duff always was a duffer as shown by his brilliant career.

    NZEI though should be generous as it’s the pirmary sector most in need of a shake up as they have the first responsibility for literacy and numeracy and are failing torimany kids. They also have damn all public accountability unlike high schools which are regularly ranked by the media.

    I’d leave self-management for secondary and cluster primaries under governing bodies a bit like the old education boards but with a focus on achievement more than property and doling out pencils.

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  4. Manolo (12,637 comments) says:

    The government should launch a frontal attack against the PPTA, a militant arm of the Labour Party.
    It’s time to drop the polite and nice words and give the comrades what they really deserve.

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  5. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    I take it Robin Duff is still fuming over the loss of Christchurch Central on Saturday? do he and his ilk not realise that the ordinary man in the street is sick to death of left wing politics and its dreariness? in the court of public opinion the Prime Minister will always win.

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  6. alex Masterley (1,439 comments) says:

    Comes from the Sepuloni school of graciousness!
    I suspect that Mr Key’s preferred reading would be something like Sun Tsu, The Art of War.

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  7. Kimble (4,095 comments) says:

    “Robin Duff said the fourth book will look at what lessons literature provides about the growing gap between rich and poor.”

    That greedy teachers unions with too much power have stood in the way of genuine efforts to improve education of poor people?

    I bet not.

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  8. flipper (3,273 comments) says:

    Patronising you say, DPF.
    No way.
    This is just plain arrogance. Moreover, this is the arrogance of entitlement that must be stopped / killed / buried forthwith.

    But have I missed something?

    When did Duff et al leave State employment and work on their own account?
    If any private sector employee did that they would be down the road.

    Unbelievable!

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  9. big bruv (12,380 comments) says:

    Fuck the PPTA…Key really needs to man up an smash this union.

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  10. YesWeDid (1,003 comments) says:

    Well Tolley did read a children’s book about an ‘incredibly happy rat’ at a PPTA meeting so they are probably just following her lead.

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  11. Angus (536 comments) says:

    “Key really needs to man up an smash this union.”

    He’s just given the job of Education Minister to one of the most left-wing PC members of the National Party caucus. That’s scarcely likely to happen.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hekia_Parata

    . . another career trougher who has never held down a real job, choosing instead to ride on the gravy train.

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  12. gravedodger (1,426 comments) says:

    Maybe a copy of Midsummer night’s dream

    Teacher unions care about whats good for the Kids, ‘Yeah Right’.

    Looking forward to working with the new Minister ‘Yeah Right’

    What part of slipping towards third most popular party escapes them.
    Replay Micheal Cullen’s infamous quote on who won perhaps.
    Then do a bit of study of employer/ employee and management/ governance.
    Might even take a little time to listen to the parents out there who want nothing more than the best for their Children.
    That might well include some of the parents of the 20% the socialists and their union hack donors wish to consign to a permanent place in the locked up voter bloc, safely ensconced in the welfare trap.

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  13. annie (533 comments) says:

    The Prince is a strange gift for an opposing political organisation to give the PM. a bit on the suicidal side. Perhaps he passed it on to Anne Tolley.

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  14. lyndon (330 comments) says:

    Outrageous. If they were going to do that, shoulda been Richard III.

    Speaking of The Prince, a lecturer at Otago apparently had a theory that Richard III was written after having heard about Machiavelli; Henry V was written after reading Machiavelli.

    Personally, I wonder if Key might end up a bit Richard II.

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  15. RRM (8,994 comments) says:

    Ah yes trade unionism – raising the standards of just about everything, since ages ago.

    What complete and utter cocks.

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  16. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    They’re teachers. They’re used to the state giving them enormous control over 20-30 impressionable young minds where they get to live out as classroom dictator. They know they are better than other people. Shame other people dont recognise this.

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  17. XChequer (350 comments) says:

    Intellectual snobbery seems in good health in NZ.

    What a bunch of prats

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  18. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    Angus 4:56pm – what rubbish; have you met Mrs Parata? I have and she is not what you and others may think.

    Over the years I have met every single National cabinet minister, except Murray McCully, at one time or another (however briefly in most cases) and Hekia is the only person who ‘radiates’ power and competence. The moment she walked in the room (it was at a birthday party) she gave off – radiated – that aura of power, something I have never found with any other National politician.

    She also – which I quite liked – gave the very strong impression she is not a person to be f***ed with (a kind of subtle menacing demeanor reminicent of Richard Prebble in his heyday)

    Anybody who thinks she is a ‘token Maori’ in the Cabinet is seriously mistaken – and in for a shock (rather like those who just assumed Margaret Thatcher was a ‘token woman’ in Ted Heath’s cabinet in the early 70s got quite a shock); she is just the person to dish out a rap over the knuckles to dickhead left wing school master trade unionists.

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  19. RRM (8,994 comments) says:

    Kiwigreg – you’ve obviously got some issues from high school that you’ve been keeping bottled up inside for some time.

    Anything you want to tell us mate? Get it off your chest.

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  20. Brian Smaller (3,915 comments) says:

    Well it is good that the teachers union raised the literary merit of these works with the PM . Shame that 20% of their students wont be able to read them because they are funtionally illiterate.

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  21. parkold () says:

    Message for both.Proverb.Happy is the one who is never without fear,but one who is hard-hearted will fall into calamity.

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  22. Ross Miller (1,624 comments) says:

    Word of advice to the Minister … if the PPTA is against it, do it. If the PPTA is for it, ditch the idea quickly. That is the receipe for success. You are kidding yourself if you think you can have constructive engagement with this mob; for them it’s their way or the highway so buy them a Wises and point them in the direction and NZL will be better off.

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  23. tvb (3,945 comments) says:

    Ms Parata radiates charisma. If this is supported by competence she will go far. I doubt she is fazed by anything and has seen it all. Time will tell whether she can overcome the weird personalities in the teachers’ unions but I suspect she will rap them over the knuckles and then send them away with their ears boxed.

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  24. Bill Bennett (24 comments) says:

    I’m concerned a teacher could write: “We’ve gifted the prime minister a copy of Shakespeare’s Macbeth”.

    Why not just say: “We gave…”?

    Poor language choice Mr Duff, go to the back of the class.

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  25. Fletch (5,726 comments) says:

    Over the years I have met every single National cabinet minister, except Murray McCully, at one time or another (however briefly in most cases) and Hekia is the only person who ‘radiates’ power and competence. The moment she walked in the room (it was at a birthday party) she gave off – radiated – that aura of power, something I have never found with any other National politician.

    OK, so she has charisma – that doesn’t mean anything in and of itself. Obama had charisma also, and he has royally f*cked his country up.

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  26. burt (7,091 comments) says:

    The PPTA is just well pissed off that teachers paid so much more tax under Labour and National changed that.

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  27. Viking2 (10,734 comments) says:

    Parata sends a message to the Plum Duff.

    We want change and what National Standards do is just provide one more tool in the toolkit of good quality teaching that helps identify early how well a child is doing and designs a programme to assist that child to be the best they can be.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10772883

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  28. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    Mr Duff:

    You sign your place and calling, in full seeming,
    With meekness and humility; but your heart
    Is cramm’d with arrogancy, spleen, and pride.
    Henry VIII 2.4.118-20

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  29. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    As an afterthought, I have to observe (and I like Shakespeare as much as the next chap) that this choice of ‘wit’ from Mr. Duff speaks volumes about just how devoid of relevance his mentality is to the contemporary needs and mentality of modern NZ.

    Perhaps it indicates why so many kids fail to be engaged in classrooms. Is this tweed-coated relic seriously representing the cutting edge of modern educational debate?

    Couldn’t he at least find a relevant quote from a kiwi author who has lived in say – the last fifty years? Or even better – a modern lyric from one of our galaxy of excellent songwriters?

    Any ideas?

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  30. burt (7,091 comments) says:

    Lee

    You have nailed the problem exactly. They are unions – they live in the past.

    As Lanthanide at the standard noted – The PPTA could easily start their own charter schools…… Oh no… that won’t do will it – how would they dedicate all their efforts to extracting money from underpaid teachers so they can donate to the Labour party if they actually had to worry about how well kids were being educated…..

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  31. mavxp (490 comments) says:

    Perhaps since they should exchange gifts this year?

    John Key could send Mr. Duff a copy of “The Wealth of Nations” by Adam Smith. Perhaps circling this quote:

    “The real and effectual discipline which is exercised over a workman is that of his customers. It is the fear of losing their employment which restrains his frauds and corrects his negligence.”

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  32. Cunningham (746 comments) says:

    JamesS (247) Says:
    December 12th, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    I thoroughly agree. I have met and seen Hekia talk a few times and she does have an x factor. She is an amazing speaker and incredibly strong. The teachers unions (if not already) should be scared because she will stomp them into the ground and will have no trouble getting the public on her side. Thrilled to have her in that portfolio.

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