Final Results

December 10th, 2011 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

The final results have just gone live.We now have a confirmed National-led Government

There are three changes:

Party Vote

National loses one list seat to the Greens, as often happens with special votes. Commiserations to Aaron Gilmore (who only made it by around 32 votes last time) who drops out, and congratulations to new Green MP Mojo Mathers, NZ’s first deaf MP.

If National has any vacancies during the term, those in waiting on the list are Aaron Gilmore, Paul Quinn and Paul Foster-Bell. Whether any would take up a list vacancy is likely to depend on when it occurs and what they are doing at the time.

This also allows National to go ahead and announce a Ministry, and be sworn in. If they had lost two list seats on specials, then the Maori Party would hold the balance of power. But National can pass laws 61-60 with support from ACT and united Future only. This means the Maori Party has a choice between opposition or getting some gains and influence through a confidence and supply agreement. As National only wants them, not needs them, their negotiating power is somewhat reduced. However worth remembering that Labour never gave the Maori Party anything beyond being last cab off the rank, choosing in 2005 to go with NZ First and United Future in preference to Maori and Greens.

Waitakere

Carmel Sepuloni has beaten Paula Bennett by 11 votes. That is probably close enough for a judicial recount, but based on this count congratulations go to Carmel who would have been out of Parliament otherwise. Commiserations to Paula who will of course remain an MP and Minister, but will miss her beloved seat.

The bigger loser is Raymond Huo, who loses his list place, as Sepuloni makes it back. While not a huge contributor to Labour within Parliament, I understand he is a relatively large fund-raiser for Labour.

Christchurch Central

Nicky Wagner has emerged with a 45 vote majority. As Brendon Burns is not high up enough on the list, he is out of Parliament entirely. Hence he may consider a judicial recount. Note a judicial recount is relatively quick and inexpensive compared to an electoral petition which costs so much you need to have someone like Owen Glenn pay for it :-)

If Burns had won, then Labour would have also lost Rajen Prasad. I think Labour were hoping Brendon would win.

It is no small thing that National now holds Auckland Central and Christchurch Central. Neither are swing seats. They are heartland Labour. Auckland Central has been held by Labour (and Alliance for one term) since Labour’s 1st election outing in 1919. That 89 year run ended in 2008.

Christchurch Central has been much the same. It was created in 1946 and for 65 years has only been held by Labour. That loss will hurt.

Demographics

The demographics for the 50th Parliament are now the following:

  • Gender – 67% male, 33% female (this is just one fewer woman MP than in 2008 as the two new MPs are both women)
  • Ethnicity – European 74%, Maori 17%, Pacific 6%, Asian 3%
  • Age – 39% 50s, 31% 40s, 16% 60s, 12% 30s, 2% 20s, 1% 70s
  • Area – 35% Auckland, 24% rural/town, 18% provincial city, 13% Wellington, 11% Christchurch
  • Island – 75% North, 25% South

I’ve also looked at how many MPs entered in each Parliament

  • 39th (1978) – 1
  • 40th (1981) – 1
  • 41st (1984) – 4
  • 42nd (1987) – 3
  • 43rd (1990) – 4
  • 44th (1993) – 5
  • 45th (1996) – 4
  • 46th (1999) – 7
  • 47th (2002) – 6
  • 48th (2005) – 24
  • 49th (2008) – 35
  • 50th (2011) – 27

So 86 of the 121 MPs entered in 2005 or later. Note those who enter part-way through a term are included in each Parliament’s total. Only 22 of 121 MPs entered before 1999.

OTHERS

Pleased to see Nikki Kaye increase her majority to 717. That’s a huge endorsement of her work in that seat considering in 2008 she was against Judith Tizard and in 2011 against Jacinda Ardern, who is already being talked about as a future Labour deputy leader.

Also congrats to Kate Wilkinson whose win in Waimakariri against Clayton Cosgrove has been confirmed.

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74 Responses to “Final Results”

  1. Lindsay Addie (1,517 comments) says:

    Great result in Christchurch Central. As for Burns he knocked on my door about 3 months ago and seemed to want to try talk down to me the whole time…….

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  2. iMP (2,385 comments) says:

    Great result for Nicky Wagner in Chch Central in Labour tiger country, nice for her to move past being a List MP alongside kate W in Waimak. These seats of course will tumble back to Labour in 2014, this being National’s high water mark.
    Most unfortunate candidate to be: Chris Auchinvole in WC-Tasman…the only Nat to lose his seat to Labour in 2011. Where was he during Pike River?

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  3. Jimbob (641 comments) says:

    With MMP here to stay, a second strong centre right party is needed to keep the haters and wreckers (the left) out of power.
    Less than three years to achieve. No pressure.

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  4. tas (625 comments) says:

    Who entered parliament in 1978? I know that Goff entered in 1981.

    I’m glad to see the strong endorsement of National coming from Christchurch.

    Edit: Oh it’s Winston who came in in 1978.

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  5. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    Very disappointed to see Aaron and Paul out, which just shows the need to do away with this MMP nonsense and get a proper electoral system whereby National can have proper election victories.

    Delighted at Waimakariri and Christchurch Central and doubt there will be much difficulty in picking up Waitakere when the traditional Labour party voting fraud comes to light.

    Overall National’s vote is up to a record level (so the left wingers will be saying “there is no mandate for the party with the highest ever number of votes”) whilst Labour is nearly 200,000 votes down – to minor party status.

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  6. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    Oh and before Burns starts looking to everybody but himself for defeat I should point out that Nicky Wagner polled over 400 fewer votes than National’s party vote; and the Green candidate received only half the number of votes as Green party votes.

    In short Burns benefited from Green tactical voting and still lost! pathetic loser!

    It would be more honest and accurate for him to issue a statement later today along the lines of “I am the worst Labour candidate in history and am not surprised no one voted for me. Goodbye”

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  7. Chris2 (766 comments) says:

    I hope the media are not going to forever give this new Green MP the lifelong tag of being “profoundly deaf”.

    For years Georgina Beyer was “the first transsexual MP…”, and more recently David Garrett has been “the disgraced former ACT MP”.

    Time now for the media to drop these pointless unhelpful labels.

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  8. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    If I remember correctly was CHCH central the seat that Mabel Howard inherited from her husband.
    Don’t get much more Labour than that.

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  9. Lindsay Addie (1,517 comments) says:

    tas,

    Your query about who was an MP in 1978.

    It’s none other than Winnie Peters……

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  10. iMP (2,385 comments) says:

    BURNS, Brendon LAB Christchurch 12,019 votes OUT of Parliament
    O’Rourke, Denis NZF Christchurch 697 votes IN to Parliament

    MMP. Proportionality….ya gotta love it!? Peter Shirtcliffe, where are you?

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  11. Pete George (23,572 comments) says:

    With MMP here to stay, a second strong centre right party is needed

    Makes sense to grow one that’s already there, United Future has the foundation to build on.

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  12. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    “but will miss her beloved seat.” :)

    Bloody hard to miss such an ample seat! :)

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  13. iMP (2,385 comments) says:

    Bloomers Howard was in Chch East (Brighton beach etc), Dalziel’s seat, ex-List MP (Nat) Aaron Gilmore’s patch.

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  14. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Quinn won’t be missed. Going on the party vote in Hutt South you would suspect that if National had put up a half decent candidate Trev would have come second.

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  15. iMP (2,385 comments) says:

    Re strong centre-right party: ACT, UF and Conservative should amalgamate and have TWO electorate seats up their sleeve (Epsom and Ohariu) which would solidify a National ally on the centre-right. They’d also have electorate status in Auck and Welly, a good base to build a nationwide Party Vote constituency from.

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  16. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Far too many Maoris in parliament , not enough Asians!

    Time for proper quota management I say! :)

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  17. Lindsay Addie (1,517 comments) says:

    Re the Chch Central electorate and its history go here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_Central

    Robert Macfarlane held the seat initially then Bruce Barclay and later some bloke named Geoffrey Palmer.

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  18. max (31 comments) says:

    Lets be honest. Auckland central has changed a hell of a lot in the last few years with more affluent people living in the central city. Its not like Ponsonby is the melting pot it once was.

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  19. parkold () says:

    Cant understand how voters and overseas voters could vote for an Australian Communist Norman and a loser from the Macgillicuddy Serious Party Turei.Both campaigned under the so called “Green” Banner.Whatever were the voters thinking ,if it had been for the name well and good,except that crowd are more interested in social engineering than even Clark was.

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  20. iMP (2,385 comments) says:

    PORT HILLS (Chch Hills & Lyttelton). What happened to the National vote there?
    National thrashed Labour for the Party Vote, but its candidate (a Front Bencher) actually went down 1000 votes on the National wave. Was Ruth Dyson on steroids? Goes against trend in Wigram/Chch Central and Waimak where National did well electorally. ??

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  21. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    Interesting that Bennett won Waitakere in 2008 with a more than 600 vote majority and this time around there was a general swing against Labour, yet Labout were able to win this seat. What does that say about Bennett?

    Bennett has rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. I doubt that Key, however, will have the good sense to dump her from Cabinet. He could of course give her a different portfolio – maybe the Minister of Racing?

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  22. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Probably says that there are a lot of bene bludgers in Waitakere ross.

    Maybe the climate is good for growing and the sections are more secluded out west. :)

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  23. Ross Miller (1,704 comments) says:

    For me the standout result was Clayton Cosgrove losing his seat. He inhereted the seat from Mike Moore and reputedly fashioned a tightly run LRC based on the Tammany Hall model (do as I say or I’ll break your legs).

    I had the (mis)fortune to have to work with him a number of years ago. He is supremely arrogant in the Cunliffe tradition. I suspect a number of his colleagues will welcome him being taken down a peg or three.

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  24. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    He can always get a new job if Jackson does a remake of ‘The Munsters’ RM. :)

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  25. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    What amazes me is how many electorates had virtually no swing whatsoever –

    Bay of Plenty, Botany, East Coast Bays, Hamilton East, Invercargill, Kaikoura, Mt Albert, Northcote, Pakuranga, Papakura, Port Hills, Rongotai, Te Atatu all had virtually identical results to 2008; it was as if there was no particular point even bothering holding an election in these seats! ha ha

    Interestingly there was actually a slight swing to Labour in Whanganui – which shows that happens when you go against the common sense of your constituents to try and prove how PC you are.

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  26. Nostalgia-NZ (5,214 comments) says:

    JK campaigning on ‘we’ll re-build Chch’ surely resonated in Chch Central, a seat that will probably be very vulnerable in 2014.
    The flattery of Paula Bennett using Key’s ‘oh look, listen’ line obviously has had it’s day in the wild west. I wonder how aware she has been that key used ‘one of them’ to break the bad news for beneficiaries during his first term as PM and that with it would ultimately come a rejection on polling day – something interesting to watch into the future. The silver fox effortlessly into the hen house and welcomed by the chooks. Give the man a pie.

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  27. drongo (1 comment) says:

    “This means the Maori Party has a choice between opposition or getting some gains and influence through a confidence and supply agreement. As National only wants them, not needs them, their negotiating power is somewhat reduced.”

    Yes, the Maori Party’s negotiating power will be hugely reduced, so I would’ve thought this meant they’d be better off in opposition. Sharples has acknowledged their support has reduced because of a perception they’ve sold out basic values and supported polices that are bad for Maori. The current numbers magnify this scenario hugely, but the Maori Party are wanting to go back and do it all again, but this time it’ll be even worse. Does this mean the Maori Party will, for example, support asset sales in exchange for, perhaps, John Key’s “permission” to fly the Maori flag on the Auckland Harbour Bridge on Waitangi Day? Wow, Pita, you’ll really be socking to them with that one!

    There’s still the Speaker to decide, and if there are any by-elections the balance could easily change to the Maori Party having power to support real Maori Party policy, like stopping asset sales. Key knows this but the Maori Party still don’t understand. I thought they would’ve by now. they really are like putty in Key’s hands. I thought the Maori Party would eventually learn how things worked, lose their political nativity and make a real difference for Maori. I can see now that that’s never going to happen – they’ll go with Key and lose even more credibility with voters. Surely they can’t be poodles all their life, but if they go with Key they destined to be nothing more than poodles.

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  28. alwyn (426 comments) says:

    Do you have any idea on which of the Davids Sepuloni might vote for, and which one Huo would have supported?
    Presumably she will now get a vote next Tuesday and he will not.

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  29. Dick (80 comments) says:

    Commiserations to Aaron Gilmore (who only made it by around 32 votes last time) who drops out, and congratulations to new Green MP Mojo Mathers, NZ’s first deaf MP.

    No commiserations here. What the fuck has Gilmore actually achieved ever since being in Parliament? Secondly, congratulations are not due for Mojo simply because he/she is deaf. It is up to them to prove their worth in Parliament.

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  30. Graeme Edgeler (3,289 comments) says:

    Labour came third in the Wellington Central Party vote.

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  31. mattyman1010 (35 comments) says:

    There was actually a small swing to Labour in Mt Roskill in the party vote. Despite the strength of the greens and a weak United Future and ACT.

    2008: National 41.8% Labour 42.4% 2011: National 39% Labour 43%

    Here’s hoping for couple of by elections, they always make things more interesting, National could do with picking up another seat.

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  32. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Jacinda Ardern,

    You gotta be joking.

    “Talked about,” as a future deputy leader (and therefore) a possible future prime minister
    of New Zealand, by whom ? Which morons ?

    What a sick joke that would be.

    Jacinda Ardern makes Darien Fenton look like a statesman.

    Then again, who else do Labour have ?

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  33. PaulL (5,981 comments) says:

    bereal: if she was any good, she’d be talked about as a future leader. Future deputy leader means what? That she doesn’t have the talent to be leader, but if she hangs around for long enough, and is enough of a party hack, she might rise to the lofty heights of assistant to?

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  34. reid (16,472 comments) says:

    congratulations to new Green MP Mojo Mathers, NZ’s first deaf MP

    It’s a good thing he is deaf for now he won’t have to listen to people laughing behind his back over his profoundly stupid first name. I mean honestly, his parents must have really hated him.

    I suppose the Gweens will accuse everyone who does laugh of being just a bunch of complete deafist bastards but seriously, how could you not, if one were ever to meet him? Poor bastard.

    It is no small thing that National now holds Auckland Central and Christchurch Central. Neither are swing seats. They are heartland Labour.

    Yes but Liarbore won’t see it like this. To them it is a mere anomaly arising from a public misunderstanding, same as what happened three years ago. The reason they lost is because people were fooled into staying at home by a dastardly underhand counter-plot by the evil righties who forced people to think that it wasn’t important because they were always going to win. If National had played fair and told everyone they were going to lose so as to allow our poor downtrodden base to think their vote would count, then our democratic rights would not have been torn from us by that heartless greedy banker and his corporate mates.

    I know this for a fact as I’ve seen the corporate memo from Trevor. It was accidentally posted on the Stranded for a few hours last Wednesday.

    [DPF: Mojo is female]

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  35. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    PaulL, but if the leader carks it for whatever reason,as deputy then she’s it.

    Jacinda Ardern, that would be the biggest / sickest joke EVER.

    i’ve heard that in a democracy we get what we deserve, but, who the fuck deserves Jacinda ?
    Thick as a sack of hammers doesn’t come close.

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  36. catwoman (123 comments) says:

    National have still given Labour a hiding in Dunedin South – their stronghold. National have taken the party vote. Great work from Joanne Hayes and her team.

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  37. Fisiani (1,039 comments) says:

    Labour came third in Wellington Central party Vote.
    Grant Robertson is the biggest loser.

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  38. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    New technology will be required.

    “Call for Mojo, call for Mojo!”

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  39. Manolo (13,783 comments) says:

    Bennett’s loss is very embarrassing. The minister must have paid little or no importance to her electorate to allow a non-entity, an accomplished mediocrity, like the dreadful Sepuloni to beat her.

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  40. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    @JamesS 2:21 pm

    …which just shows the need to do away with this MMP nonsense…

    Get used to it James. The referendum result was so resounding that there is unlikely to be any change for at least 50 years. More people cast an informal vote in Part B of the referendum than voted for any of the alternatives to MMP being put up.

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  41. Other_Andy (2,676 comments) says:

    “But despite National securing the ability to govern, Ms Bennett’s narrow loss to Labour’s Carmel Sepuloni in the Waitakere electorate will come as a blow to the party.
    She remains in Parliament as a list MP, but opponents are likely to use the loss of her seat as a chance to question her credibility.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10772238

    Not really.
    It was a surprise that Paula won the seat in the first place.
    Paula has one of the toughest jobs in the government.
    There are a lot of tax-payer supported people in the Waitakere electorate.
    She has to wean those people, some of them generational beneficiaries, off their perceived entitlement.
    Hard work!
    Coming that close doesn’t mean her credibility is on the line.
    Coming that close means she is doing a good job.

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  42. questlove (242 comments) says:

    This means the Maori Party has a choice between opposition or getting some gains and influence through a confidence and supply agreement.

    Gains and influence? Ha ha yep the decision to support National has worked out real well for the Maori Party.

    /sarcasm

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  43. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Hello toadie! :)

    Instead of wasting your time in the sewer I thought you would have been in Rotorua helping Kevin with vital work to save Gaia.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10772154

    “Mr Hague told The Westport News he was actually in Rotorua today, attending a new cycle track blessing.”

    Thank goodness we have you chaps to get the important work done while we swan about wasting our time. :)

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  44. Other_Andy (2,676 comments) says:

    @Manolo

    “Bennett’s loss is very embarrassing. The minister must have paid little or no importance to her electorate to allow a non-entity, an accomplished mediocrity, like the dreadful Sepuloni to beat her.”

    I disagree that it is embarrassing.
    Waitakere is a Labour electorate.
    In 55 year (Since 1946) Waitakere has been a Labour seat for all but 10 years.
    It was a National seat from 1993 till 1999 and the last 3 years with Paula Bennett.

    I agree with your description of Sepuloni.
    That tells you something about the voters in Waitakare.

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  45. tvb (4,425 comments) says:

    Mabel Howard was in Sydenham. Geoffrey palmer had chch central.

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  46. reid (16,472 comments) says:

    I’ve heard that in a democracy we get what we deserve, but, who the fuck deserves Jacinda? Thick as a sack of hammers doesn’t come close.

    Agree bereal but how else is Hulun going to translate her ideas into reality here if not ‘the daughter she never had.’

    After all, since Darren blew it by revealing to everyone what an execreble arsehole he in fact is, Hulun’s only got one protege left.

    Jacinda was always her favourite anyway. After all, even though Darren was gay which gives him some points, he was a man so that put him way way behind from the get go.

    So apparently we do deserve Jacinda, according to Hulun.

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  47. questlove (242 comments) says:

    Act’s 1.07 per cent share of the party vote remained unchanged _ making the party less popular than Mana, which got 1.08 per cent of the party vote

    *snigger*

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  48. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Was the ‘s’ a misprint or not questlove?

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  49. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    “Bennett’s loss is very embarrassing.”

    It certainly is. But then she has brought it on herself. She is arrogant and stubborn. She still has not apologised for breaching the privacy of Natasha Fuller despite the Privacy Commissioner finding a case to answer. If Bennett could grow some compassion and utter the word “sorry” now and again, she might look like a reasonable person.

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  50. reid (16,472 comments) says:

    *snigger*

    Don’t read anything into it questlove. See unlike Mana, ACT really do know how the economy works, even if it doesn’t talk about that fact often enough. Mana are just a bunch of disaffected commie idiots who’ll say anything if it whips up hatred against whitey except for poor whiteys. They’re OK. It’s all the other whiteys whose fault everything is and Mana simply says so. So it picks up a lot of idiots, doesn’t it questlove. I mean you’d have to be one not to see what I just said wouldn’t ya.

    ACT on the other hand score a resounding 100% in the commonsense macro-economic good idea competition and even if National doesn’t pick them up as it chose not to with Brash’s Catch Australia report this doesn’t mean they aren’t in that category. For if you thought that you’d be an idiot as well.

    Honestly questlove, I seriously don’t know what the fuck is wrong with lefties and commies in particular. I mean, the commie economic model brought them to a low productivity alcohol ridden decayed infrastructure broken supply chain hell-hole in the late eighties, didn’t it. Yes it did. But the lefties and in particular the commies for some reason haven’t apparently noticed that. Yet.

    Whereas ACT talks about stuff the Treasury and Reserve Bank’s wet dreams are made out of. They do. And hasn’t it ever not even once ever occurred to any fucking lefty on earth that just maybe, the professionals who run the economy for real, as in, they actually do it for a job, might have a bit of a clue as to what works and what doesn’t?

    So conservatives know all this already because we understand the economy as well, not like lefties at all. So therefore we just went with the Nats this time since we knew Banks was in, ACT wouldn’t die and the Nats needed every party vote we could give em, there are so many fucking stupid lefties out there. Man it’s frustrating.

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  51. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    i think David F might have lost his objectivity just a bit with regard
    to Jacinda Ardern.
    ‘A future deputy leader of Labour.’
    FFS Get Real.
    Imagine the BBQ atendees at the inaugoration,
    Helen Clark, Peter Davis, Chris Carter, Peter Kaiser, Jordan Carter, (his boyfriend) Maryan Street, (her wife)
    Tim Barnet ( his wife) Charles Chavel, Daren Hughes, Louisa wall, Jacinda Ardern.

    How could you get a crew more representative of New Zealand society in general if you tried ?

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  52. reid (16,472 comments) says:

    If Bennett could grow some compassion and utter the word “sorry” now and again, she might look like a reasonable person.

    I’m afraid ross Paula seems much more concerned about wrapping support mechanisms around all sorts of things, than anything else.

    I’m very disappointed they didn’t campaign on compulsory drug tests for all beneficiaries. They could have easily put that in their policy and it would have lost them no votes at all and that would improve the lot of the beneficiary no end since (a) a hell of a lot of them do it a lot and (b) the problem with marijuana is it makes it OK to do nothing.

    So drug testing for unemployed people would have huge upswings in correcting their attitudes by the simple fact of doing it in the first place.

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  53. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Sorry. too quick, missed out Grant Robertson and many others of similar ilk.

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  54. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Now i wouldn’t call them deviants, but has there ever been a political party
    in any democracy with such a high proportion of homosexuals and gays than
    the New Zealand Labour Party.
    And i’m not even including the ones still in the closet.
    Are they a representative slice of NZ society or is , Sum sing rong ?

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  55. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    Just saw One News and the contrasts regarding Christchurch Central.

    Burns was surrounded by an ignorant, scruffily dressed, working class rabble of feral apparitions; Nicky Wagner was surrounded by rich, successful, intelligent white people.

    How lovely the ‘true’ divide between the parties is being shown – we are born to rule (and rightly so!) and our membership and makeup clearly show that. The Labour people are troglodytes as was clearly shown.

    We won and the Labour people will ‘like it’ as we shove it up their backsides! ha ha (suck on that and find it tasty Labourites!)

    Burns will end up on his knees cleaning toilets at a house owned by a National party member, doffing his cap to his master (whilst being, quite rightly, spat on by said master). And thus are all men created equal

    [DPF: 20 demerits for trolling]

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  56. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    Bereal how old were you when you became obsessed by the act of sodomy? (come on – be honest and tell us)

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  57. reid (16,472 comments) says:

    Now i wouldn’t call them deviants, but has there ever been a political party in any democracy with such a high proportion of homosexuals and gays than the New Zealand Labour Party.

    With those facts bereal I’m not sure how one correctly can avoid labeling them as such if one understands the English language. Their composition is extremely deviant from the population norm and thus the entire Liarbore Party needs to go into group therapy to find out what it’s been doing wrong to cause it to deviate so.

    It’s a long hard road for them probably taking till around 2018 before they’re once again in a position to resume the political arena. Look the good thing is they’re leftys and apparently lefties are very very kind people so it’s not as if the Gweens or Mana or Winston would try to use their absence to take any of their loyal supporters. No, they’d just be filling in for Liarbore, while it was in group therapy and then they’ll just hand it back again.

    I bet you they don’t take this advice bereal but that’s what they should do, I hope you agree.

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  58. Michael (909 comments) says:

    Does anyone else remember 1984-1988 Wairarapa Labour MP ‘Landslide’ Reg Boorman, who used to joke that after winning by a single vote every time he left the electorate he took his majority with him?

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  59. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    Reg Boorman, like all Labour MPs, had been engaging in voting fraud. Paula Bennett has nothing to worry about when things get to court. Carmen on the other hands needs to have a chat with Maryan for when she is banged up in prison with a lesbian cell mate.

    [DPF: 30 demerits]

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  60. Manolo (13,783 comments) says:

    Rajen Prasad, former Race Relations Conciliator, invisible MP and complete and utter waste of space.
    NZ Parliament is poorer with his ghastly presence.

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  61. flipper (4,068 comments) says:

    I do not care a bit about ethnicity, whether queer or straight, race/ethnicity…so on and so forth. It is all padding.

    What would be useful is to know :

    1. Their academic /professional / work qualifications prior to election.
    2. Their employment experience ( last three jobs).
    3. Names of their past 3 employers

    Bullshit about age, sex etc is just that!

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  62. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    JamesS @ 6.16

    You reveal much about yourself.

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  63. Nostalgia-NZ (5,214 comments) says:

    Paula has been kicked to touch as an elected MP – rejected by westies. It might have the significance of showing where a particular vote is heading. One also relying on delivery else where: the economy, and the rebuilding of Chch for example. The Maori Party vote could be seen to be dismissed now but will not evaporate in 2014 or at any point sooner. The battle lines are more firmly drawn and allies re-assesed. We also know that JK failed to keep Winston out of the house a 2nd time. Should be fun!

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  64. Bob R (1,375 comments) says:

    ***Probably says that there are a lot of bene bludgers in Waitakere ross.***

    Indeed. From the 2006 census figures: Out of those aged over 15, 31% are “not in the Labour force”, 4% unemployed, 13% are in part time employment and 52% are employed full time.

    http://www.waitakere.govt.nz/abtcit/ps/pdf/2006file7.pdf

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  65. reid (16,472 comments) says:

    It might have the significance of showing where a particular vote is heading.

    So you’re saying Nostalgia it might be an indicator westies may not be the trusted conservative stalwarts they always otherwise have been?

    I see.

    Thanks for the heads up. Let’s hope the junior young nat who’s on uni hols and is amongst things currently responsible for maintaining the next election campaign’s risk register doesn’t omit to enter your opinion lest we be surprised once again in 2014 when the westies lo, say they’d rather have something fluffy, cuddly and damn the cost cos it’s about people vs. the alternative package from those national people who’ve been nothing but trouble.

    So yeah, thanks for helping us dodge that bullet, Nostalgia. Most appreciated. Wherever would one be, without one?

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  66. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    @bereal 5:54 pm

    Now i wouldn’t call them deviants, but has there ever been a political party in any democracy with such a high proportion of homosexuals and gays than the New Zealand Labour Party.

    We have such a party in our current Parliament. The Greens have one gay MP (Kevin Hague) and one lesbian (Jan Logie). With a caucus of 14, that makes the Green LGBTI percentage of MPs 14% – greater than Labour.

    I guess we in the Greens need such a higher percentage to help counter the votes of bigots like you.

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  67. eszett (2,410 comments) says:

    Carmel Sepuloni has beaten Paula Bennett by 11 votes. That is probably close enough for a judicial recount, but based on this count congratulations go to Carmel who would have been out of Parliament otherwise. Commiserations to Paula who will of course remain an MP and Minister, but will miss her beloved seat.

    I am missing the outrage here that Paula “sneaked” back into parliament on the list after being rejected by her electorate. Apparently voters really hate that about MMP.

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  68. KH (695 comments) says:

    It’s to National’s advantage that Carmel Sepuloni comes in and Raymond Ho goes. Sepuloni is so negative and dreadful that it will reflect badly on labour. She illustrates their brand sadly so well. Raymond Ho brings in lots of money for the Labour Party from his community. But probably much less now he’s out.

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  69. plebe (271 comments) says:

    Sigh i didnt have the right genetic pass to vote for national so i voted conservative, i must appear as poor white trash to the righties who spew hate here

    Burns was surrounded by an ignorant, scruffily dressed, working class rabble of feral apparitions; Nicky Wagner was surrounded by rich, successful, intelligent white people.

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  70. Nostalgia-NZ (5,214 comments) says:

    Reid at 10.25pm

    The sharks are circling, not all as yet aware that Jk is among them.
    So something fluffy and cuddly could appeal as being safer come 2014, but not if the economy is sound, Chch rebuilt and Social equity addressed otherwise the general vote for National will splinter. He’s read things remarkably well to this point, helped out by Helen becoming distant and patronising in 2008, misjudging the Maori party and Key’s willingness to politically embrace them, and clear ‘catch all’ calls for this election but for the first time in many years we could be about to see a decent oppositon.

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  71. nasska (11,525 comments) says:

    plebe

    White trash is such a hateful phrase. I prefer to say “Caucasian non-recyclables”.

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  72. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    I note that ‘The first Deaf MP’ has entered parliament: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10772275 this is plain nonsense – practically every MP goes deaf at about the moment they recieve their first wage cheque, IMO.

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  73. big bruv (13,904 comments) says:

    I really do hope that our first deaf MP is not going to mean the tax payer is burdened with a huge bill for ‘support services’.

    If this Green fool wants to be an MP then she (I assume that the name “Mojo” is one given to a female) should receive no special privleges or cost us any more money than any other MP.

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  74. big bruv (13,904 comments) says:

    Toad

    Why is it bigoted to point out that the Greens have two gay MP’s?

    Or are you just hoping that if you use childish names against those who do not like the Greens they will stay silent?

    BTW Toad….14 MP’s and yet you are destined to spend another three long years sitting outside the tent pissing and moaning.

    It might be time to drop the communist social justice crap and get back to being a real green party.

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