Occupy Auckland
December 10th, 2011 at 10:20 am by David FarrarStuff reports:
A protest against corporate greed has morphed into a group of homeless people and activists more intent on conflict than change, an ex-occupier says. …
Occupy Auckland spokesman Chris Glen confirmed the homeless were among the protesters in Auckland.
”Of course there’s homeless people. We’re providing them with a home.”
The admission comes as an activist who quit the movement, Andrew Hendrie, spoke out about the changing nature of the movement.
Hendrie wrote to Auckland Council to warn of an increasing number of homeless people joining the anti-capitalist protest.
”I witnessed a consistent erosion in the number of genuine campaigners at the site, a consistent increase in the number of homeless residents joining, [and] a lack of suitable controls around new members joining and their behaviour.”
Group meetings were hijacked by interest groups and protesters rejected ”reasonable” Council requests, he said.
”Those who are leading this leaderless movement are more intent on conflict with authority, rather than positive change.”
And this comes from one of the former occupiers. Can’t say I am surprised.
December 10th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Hey man, like, come on now Andrew Hendrie. Lets not dwell on the differences between the homeless and you occupiers.
Lets try and focus on the similarities.
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 11:09 am
If it morphs into what happened in the U.S (rapes, public defecation & masturbation, vandalism etc) it’ll be even worse.
The number of crimes publicly committed by the Occupy crowd in the U.S (that we know about) is up to 417 so far.
http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/10/28/occupywallstreet-the-rap-sheet-so-far/
Luckily, the movement in the US is pretty much dead.
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 11:13 am
It’s a pity they can not be left to their own devices. Might be a good social experiment and a provide a wake call for those that believe the world owes them a living. Let them live by their own rules, let the left control their own small section of the community. How many will control the wealth in the end? Will all be equal? Will all have a voice? Will all do their share? I’ve heard some are already unhappy with “freeloaders”, not so funny when you get to look in the mirror.
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Adam Carolla’s radio rant about the Occupiers. He hits the nail right on the head about these losers with their sense of entitlement.
Some of the many highlights (but listen to the whole thing) –
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December 10th, 2011 at 11:21 am
“And this comes from one of the former occupiers. Can’t say I am surprised.”
Nor am I. In the beginning I had some sympathy for the original Wall Street occupiers, even if their understanding of what led to the crisis was incomplete, I shared their frustration with the system that led to disastrous effects and undeserved bonuses for bankers. They appeared to be regular people.
Vote:Now it seems to be a bunch of the usual anti-establishment suspects. No cause except to fight authority for its own sake, like a truculent teenager. They’re the 99% you know! And now this dysfunctional group is allowing itself to be represented by the cause-du-jour
cat ladywater woman.December 10th, 2011 at 11:30 am
This video is hilarious – it is of Howard Stern and his mates exposing the “Occupy Wall St” morons.
Vote:In it, you will hear the morons saying such things as “I think we should abolish money” and “we should just ration sh*t out…. ”
December 10th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Phil whoar Ure is bound to be in there somewhere..just look for the tent with the most flys hangin around it…meh !!…
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 11:34 am
What the hell did they expect if they can’t even articulate precisely what they want?
They never have. I could have done it for them.
Eliminate fractional reserve central banking and issue a gold-backed currency. Eliminate lobbyists of all kinds from all parliaments. Allow political donations only from natural persons.
But no, as far as I know none of them ever said any of that.
And then quelle horreur quelle surprise, all the smelly dirty homeless people start turning up. I wonder why?
I also wonder who the hell is going to pay for repairing the very expensive membrane over the underground civic square carpark, which they’ve been living on for the past several months. Meanwhile after they leave I predict the world will continue as before with no change at all and sadly, no-one is any the wiser out of it for the protesters are still just as certain they were right and the rest of us are just as certain that they were and were always going to be, completely and hopelessly wrong about every single little thing.
Still, when you’ve got someone like Penny Bright and probably philu directing proceedings, is anyone at all surprised?
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Anyone who knows Auckland knows that Aotea Square is a favourite hang out for the homeless, because it is handy to their other regular haunts, like Ponsonby Road, K Road and the City Mission.
If you were to ask a homeless person, “Who moved in on whose territory”, the homeless person would claim that the occupiers invaded their turf. Ironic.
The protester’s should move really, because the homeless are homeless for a good reason. Most are criminals or drug addicts or mentally disturbed, so they don’t make good neighbours.
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Fuck these people are sad.
I offered Penny a home in my pigsty.
All she had to do was front up with the barbed wire!
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
@ Adze
I shared their frustration with the system that led to disastrous effects and undeserved bonuses for bankers. They appeared to be regular people……………….
No, Adze they were never regular people. Regular people who have had a set back don’t fuck off and do nothing and sit in a park. They knuckle down and start again, history repeats, life is cyclical , just sadly at present there is a section of society that has this disgraceful sense of entitlement .
These people were the same old malcontents who protest at anything and everything, it is just every now and again there is something to protest about that may appear to have a veener of populisim about it and these drips might appear to be mainstream for a nano second. They are not , they are rent a crowd plain and simple.
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
And as for your homeless , there is not one of the so called homeless that could not have accomodation today if they choose. The ones sleeping out choose to. We do have a functioning welfare system and it will provide but there is still free will and nobody can force anybody to stay in accomodation if they do not want to.
Go and stand outside the Auckland City Mission at opening time and you will see the vast majority of those waiting are there for a evening meal and then will bugger off
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
I’m loving the irony of the occupiers being upset that their occupation is being occupied. Briliant.
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Wall Street was not bailout, most if not all Wall Street banks were forced to take funds from the US Federal Reserve which has all been re-paid back with interest. One Wall Street CEO was threatened unless he agreed to recieving funds that he would be unable to leave the office he was in.
The reason why this was done by the US Federal Reserve was to ensure no one would know exactly who was in trouble and who wasn’t.
The banks that are failing are not Wall Street banks but regional and local banks who have been hit the hardest by the fall in real estate values as these are the banks that made the loans.
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Send in the coppers, take all their names and cut all benefits untill they remove themselves.
Vote:If no action, send in the fire department at 4am and hose them all down. (aim hose at bottom of tent.)
December 10th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
“Of course there’s homeless people. We’re providing them with a home.”
Any room for the Mongrel Mob and a few Killer Beez they need a centre city home.
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
No Jimbob………….. what about Penny, think of Penny. She’ll come around one day Jimbob and you will be together forever.
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
“Do people remember there is a ‘working group’ working on giving the Beehive fools some reasons why house prices are too high..why there is a bubble…and it’s due to report to the govt…and the report will be shelved…because as Dunne said on radio this morning the govt has NO plans to do any more than they did in the last term of govt…as thought the tax tinkering was all they had to do….what a bunch of idiots.”
http://www.interest.co.nz/property/57099/reinz-reports-6008-sales-november-17-year-ago-and-20-october-new-record-median-price-
Favoring the rich.
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Actually, despite never working (unless you count armed robbery as working), Philu has a lot of wealth.
I’m serious, I mean actual wealth not “truly rich” or some bullshit measure. I forget the details, but I believe he owns (?inherited, given by mother) a massive house and has a reasonable amount of assets. His only declared income is the dole, but he’d be in top 50%.
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
If it morphs into what happened in the U.S (rapes, public defecation & masturbation, vandalism etc) it’ll be even worse.
Vote:The number of crimes publicly committed by the Occupy crowd in the U.S (that we know about) is up to 417 so far.
followup
Thank god this blog allows the little haters, the minor blog posters, the blog whimps a chance to spew their vile, and scorn, of other NZrs,who live here,hell it probably stops them raping children of either sex and or bashing their partners and kids, ,David supplies a resourse for the wackos from the right to spew hatred,so sad such little whimps build a bridge
December 10th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Idiots morphing into scum. Send in the flamethrowers!
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
plebe, you quoted my post, so are you saying something I said was factually incorrect?
Vote:December 10th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Corruption is rife in New Zealand politics and business. We are downsizing the Department of Conservation, mining on conservation land, selling assets, chartering schools, losing our right to feed ourselves, protecting white collar criminals, and generally treating our planet as a resource for greedy people to make money from. There are 250,000+ children living in poverty in New Zealand. There are many marginalised people who live on the streets due to our poor mental health system and high unemployment rates. Our prime minister is a banker who made his money by using some very dubious (at best) business practices including currency trading and hedge funds. The Occupy movement is drawing attention to worldwide corruption and demanding that people and planet be prioritised ahead of financial profit. In the process, they are feeding and caring for homeless people and the down and out in our society. It is a shame that many of the contributors to this conversation have so little compassion for people less fortunate than themselves and so little understanding of the real reasons that our society, and our world, is in the state it is. How about you people start educating yourselves and considering what legacy you will be leaving for your own grandchildren. They won’t be thanking you for destroying their planet and their rights. What a sad lot!
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
I have just read your enlightening comments, It is good to know that your problems with us have little to do with us and are more based in your prejudices of minority groups than in fact.
This is what I would expect of a group of wannabe 1%
You don’t have to be well educated to know that the parliamentary system has little control over the country we live in and that Banks and Corporations have more control of our government and world than the people of this country.
The fact that homeless people are drawn to our movement is no surprise to me for they are some of the most effected by this corrupt system it is also a fact that occupy has given some of these people more meaning and support in their lives than any government.
As someone who has a job and is struggling to make ends meet I am part of the movement to change the injustice that this government has and will create through lining the pockets of rich, while making life even harder of the hard working poor.
Personally that tax cut that I was given which equated to $10 in my weekly pay packet I would rather pay that tax than give the top 150 earners $7 billion a year to buy up our countries assets. We paid for them we should profit from them not a small cabal of the rich
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
OH grow up Ellyn, your self righteous views do not have a mortgage on the truth anymore then many posted here.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Thanks Side Show Bob – is that the best response you could make. Nothing intelligent to add – just hurl some insults?
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Ok Ellyn, I’ll bite – can you actually describe the dubious practices that John Key made his wealth from? Instead of just repeating the catch-phrases of those who are jealous of his success, can you point out exactly what evil things he did? Stating that “Hedge Funds are dubious” is completely meaningless.
If you are going to mindlessly repeat rhetoric and strawman arguments, it pays to actually understand the reasons behind them.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
http://publiccreditorbust.blog.com/2011/11/18/former-us-president-bill-clinton-information-confirms-john-key-new-zealand-prime-minister-played-a-large-part-in-the-global-financial-crisis/
http://seekingalpha.com/article/301260-bank-of-america-dumps-75-trillion-in-derivatives-on-u-s-taxpayers-with-federal-approval
I resent that you call me jealous – I have more integrity than to be jealous of someone who climbs a ladder made of knives in our backs and I resent you implying that I mindlessly repeat rhetoric and strawman arguments and that I don’t actually understand the reasons behind them. However, as you do not know me and I do not know you I will refrain from judging you. Try these two links for a start – and perhaps you could do some investigation yourself instead of relying on others to come up with the goods.
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