Parker pulls out

December 1st, 2011 at 4:58 pm by David Farrar

Stuff has just tweeted that has suddenly pulled out of the race for Labour Party Leader. This is a huge boost for David Shearer, and I suspect Shearer is now the favourite.

No word yet on why Parker pulled out. It seems he has endorsed Shearer. I presume if he had stayed in that Labour requires the leader to get 51% of the caucus vote so in a three way contest, the lowest polling candidate would drop out and then have a second vote between the remaining two if none had got 50%.

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77 Responses to “Parker pulls out”

  1. metcalph (1,359 comments) says:

    So his statement about having the ambition to be Labour Leader was about as convincing as Cunliffe’s declaration that he had friends.

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  2. Pete George (22,754 comments) says:

    Big call by Parker but if he slots into deputy to bolster Shearer’s lack of experience it could work well – if Cunliffe works with them too.

    No female in the top team is just reality of resources, or lack thereof.

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  3. jaba (2,089 comments) says:

    must be a pretty good reason to pull the pin after listening to him on Closeup last night .. interesting.
    I have always thought that Little will be leader but getting spanked by Johnathan Young would have been a downer.
    Shearer all the way then .. I REALLY want to see Silent T make it though

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  4. Pete George (22,754 comments) says:

    Ah, maybe not, wheeling and deeling the numbers and sidelining Cunliffe?

    It is understood the Shearer team is looking at a front bench line-up of Parker at deputy, Shane Jones as finance spokesman and prominent roles for list MP Jacinda Ardern and Wellington Central MP Grant Robertson.

    That would certainly be a new look front bench. They need to take that sort of refreshing risk.

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  5. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    I note at the time of writing the NZ Herald website is not running the story; seems they know what everyone except the Labour party knows – that no one particularly cares!

    The problem for Parker was credibility; it was simply not credible to lose your deposit on Saturday and then somehow or other suggest you had any level of public support when it has just been shown you do not.

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  6. leftyliberal (642 comments) says:

    Throwing Cunliffe aside and putting Jones in finance is a pretty ballsy move. If Shearer is pulling the strings here he’s doing well.

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  7. Nookin (3,033 comments) says:

    I suspect that Parker did not have the numbers once Shearer threw his hat into the ring. By the sound of it, Mallard has stepped doing behind Shearer. I think we can reasonably expect Goff and King to be in the same camp. I have seen very little of Shearer. I think, however, that his background will make an excellent leader. It is apparent that he is not a divisive character.

    Although Cunliffe would be the better option as far as National is concerned, he is so arrogant, condescending and offensive (“greasy little man in a blue suit”) that the idea of him appearing on morning television on a regular basis leaves me cold. I also cannot help thinking that he is very much a “Nigel no mates” who was more than happy to see Goff flounder. I think it is becoming more and more apparent that he was pulling the rug out from underneath Goff throughout. I wonder if Parker’s decision is based on the recognition of a greater need to keep Cunliffe out?

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  8. slightlyrighty (2,496 comments) says:

    Parker Pulls Out…..Cunliffe Rooted…..

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  9. mara (719 comments) says:

    Shearer is the least offensive of the offerings but I wonder if he has the stomach for the sheer misery involved in being in opposition and in the company of the bitter miserabilists and dreamers who would surround him. IMHO he has shown a certain standoffishness; he never looked totally involved. Or will the baubles prove too attractive?

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  10. scrubone (3,044 comments) says:

    Well, it seems obvious.

    Someone pointed out to Parker, that he was never really cleared of Wishart’s accusations that lead to his resignation. In fact, Wishart made a very good case that the evidence that “cleared” him was a forgery.

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  11. RRM (9,427 comments) says:

    Parker Pulls Out – RRP $34.95 in adult video stores everywhere.

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  12. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    ha ha@RRM – when you have finished watching that you can then view ‘Cunnliffe Climbs Back On Top’

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  13. Nookin (3,033 comments) says:

    Will Cunny go or Cunnylingers?

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  14. mara (719 comments) says:

    RRM Parker pulls out etc. Hells teeth, you have just put me off my dinner. Thanks a bunch!

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  15. Nookin (3,033 comments) says:

    David Parker is an astute and personable character but, candidly, is not cut out for leadership and I do not think he would be comfortable in that role. He is probably a quieter and less political version of Goff who, given a job to do will get on with it quietly and effectively.

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  16. trout (899 comments) says:

    Will Shearer be acceptable to the Unions?; perhaps they hope that Little will roll him before the next election.

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  17. Grant (426 comments) says:

    Parker pulls out….. ” Will that be all m’lady?” “Yes, thank you Parker, now bring FAB 1 around to the front door.”
    G

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  18. GPT1 (2,087 comments) says:

    I think Silent T would have been better for the forces of freedom. Shearer is a genuine threat.

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  19. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    why?

    Because he discovered, rather belatedly that he is not a complete moral vacuum and therefore totally unsuitable to lead the labour party.

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  20. trout (899 comments) says:

    I see a long arm reaching out from New York to move the pieces on the chess board. Is not Shearer the anointed one; parachuted into a safe seat and touted as leadership material.

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  21. tvb (4,196 comments) says:

    Parker would not have withstood long term scrutiny of the kind the Leader of a major political party gets. God knows, Key had much thrown at him and Parker would have faced the same and I do not think his background is tidy enough.

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  22. IHStewart (388 comments) says:

    Please let this be true.

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  23. leftyliberal (642 comments) says:

    Ah, I notice stuff has gone and altered it’s article. Before it had Parker as deputy and Jones with Finance. Now it appears to be Robertson as deputy and Parker as finance. That still doesn’t make any sense to be honest.

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  24. oldpark () says:

    Just another Lie-boar Party clone is Mr Shearer.Lets see how good he is when he starts to shear the hard working taxpayers of NZ.He seems to have been imbedded into the system from the New York leader who three years ago cut and run to UN.Shearer has been anointed by Helen Clark who probably told Parker to withdraw from the race.Clark had him fast tracked into her old electorate seat of Mount Albert.Now the game plan is probably a fiat accompli.He will carry on Clark’s social engineering agenda,she certainly casts a long shadow of destruction,and domination.If not, Shearer certainly will have to show he is his own person.WE LIVE IN HOPE,AS WE BREATHE THROUGH OUR NOSES.

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  25. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    “and Parker as finance. That still doesn’t make any sense to be honest.”

    Yes it does lefty. Never let a brown man get his hands on the till! :)

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  26. Blue Coast (165 comments) says:

    Bugger
    I have run out of pop corn. It will be great to see Shearer being asked by the tories everytime he speaks “is this what your UN boss has asked you to say.

    I thought the fun was over after the election but it as just started.

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  27. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    I hope you are not being anti Semitic there oldpark regarding the amount of air that certain noses can scoff? :)

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  28. NX (602 comments) says:

    It must really suck to be Cunliffe at the mo. To have Parker, Mallard, & Goff (shearer’s Pal) all side against you. Pretty remarkable really.

    When you think about it – the whole Cunliffe/Mahuta ‘dream team’ ticket was a figment of Cunliffe’s delusions (seriously … Mahuta?).

    Cunliffe as a minister was actually pretty good. But in opposition he blows big time.

    I suspect Cunliffe will be assessing his future in the Labour party.

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  29. adze (1,856 comments) says:

    This is bad for Phil Goff.

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  30. Roflcopter (420 comments) says:

    The thought of Mahuta as 2IC probably scared the crap outta them, and forced Parker to act early.

    Cunliffe will be pissed, and will move to Wigram and be Anderton Incarnate.

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  31. NX (602 comments) says:

    Cunliffe will be pissed, and will move to Wigram and be Anderton Incarnate.

    heh – I was thinking along the same lines. If having a huge ego is a prerequisite for going on your own then, like Anderton, Cunliffe is well qualified.

    How is this bad for Phil G – I suspect Shearer would be Phil’s choice.

    On a side note – I reckon Phil G rues the day when he decided to appoint Cunliffe as his finance spokesperson.

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  32. gravedodger (1,509 comments) says:

    Will deranged Delahunty now turn her anger on the duplitious Labour denigraters of Wimmins rites for having a men only contest for leader.

    The bastards.

    I see them all tumbling into Shearers lifeboat but his short umbilical cord to the parent UN and uno who ………

    Will miss the machines efforts to package the santimonious, smarmy, arrogant self promoting Fiscal Creep as the champion of the underclass, almost bought a season pass but will now make do with the embankment.

    Silent t representing the poorest, leave it to the other great empathiser Charlie Shovel methinks.

    And the socialists think giving The Key Family a serve for heading off to Hawaii when Cunliffe and Chauvel head back to their posh pads in the nice burbs every night, now that is transparent politics for sure.

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  33. DavidR (102 comments) says:

    How many posts has there been now on the Labour leadership?

    You lot don’t get a vote you know – it’s actually none of your business.

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  34. oldpark () says:

    Cunliffe will be a waka jumper and sit at the back ,with a wee bit of luck he might even support the National coalition.After this term he will be redundant,so why not enjoy next three years.None of Helens gang will want to know him,i even think now ,he is nobodys child,or even a little boy lost.

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  35. adze (1,856 comments) says:

    I see you’re new here DavidR, welcome to the Internet. Have a seat.

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  36. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    Breeding them at the Stranded adze.

    Getting quite septic there that the rest of NZ should have an opinion as to who their next glorious leader should be.

    Funny really since they want us to vote for him/her/it. :)

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  37. NX (602 comments) says:

    You lot don’t get a vote you know – it’s actually none of your business.

    So.. you would like us to stop posting about it? Where are you from – North Korea?

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  38. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Parker must have been sleeping with the light on, brightest thing he’s done for months. Leading that rabble would be like herding cats.

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  39. slightlyrighty (2,496 comments) says:

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  40. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    Of course it’s all academic. Come March 2013 a certain UNDP Administrator will become available for a new position.

    Perhaps she will Putin her name in the hat for a glorious comeback! :)

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  41. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    slightlyrighty: :)

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  42. RightNow (6,646 comments) says:

    [Snort], you couldn’t be… DavidR(ichard Cunliffe)??? Poor diddums…

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  43. niggly (799 comments) says:

    Forking unbelievable …. no, not Parker withdrawing … but the idiotic lprent at the Stranded.

    Confirmation if ever that he is a forking idiot, get this:

    “Predictably Kiwiblog, Stuff, and probably the other right-wing media fools are using this as an opportunity to hype up David Shearer as an easier opponent for John Key.”

    WTF? Kiwibloggers are hyping Shearer up, because most of us see thru Cunliffe’s nastiness/hypocrisy (check out the Mana video as one example) and Parker’s (whilst a nice chap) doesn’t have the personnality unfortunately to lead and inspire the nation.

    Kiwibloggers are also hyping Shearer up because he isn’t tainted with the Clark regime (although he obviously has some connections with Ms Clark) that the majority of kiwis rejected in 2008.

    Gave up reading the Stranded comments pretty quickly when lprents caustic comments against Jk became too sad to read.

    Again, we Kiwibloggers give free advice to Labour to get their shit together, to make them more pallatible (and thus electable) to the wider populance (gawd knows why we do it) and the likes of the Stranded continue to shit upon the left and right posters at KB who like a bit of uncensored, intelligent discussion on the pros and cons of labour’s leadership candidates. Bizzare.

    BTW JK would have made mincemeat of Cunliffe or Parker if any of them became Labour leader – whereas hopefully Shearer can bring a bit of civility into the debates with National, if so JK will treat Shearer alot better (although I don’t expect Shearer’s colleagues to show the same intellect and restraint … so that may rubb off whenever JK and Shearer debate etc).

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  44. tas (590 comments) says:

    Apart from personality and history what is the difference between the candidates?

    I’d like to read an article that tells me where they stand on the issues. Where will they take Labour’s policies?

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  45. dime (9,368 comments) says:

    Shearer isnt good for the right. Seems like a good dude.

    do we know how far left he is?? is he “adern left”?

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  46. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    Niggly, let me see if I understand this correctly – if either Shearer or Cunnliffe are Labour Leader at the next election, and they lose by a country mile, the people at the Standard will be gobsmacked about that? they would be astonished to lose in 2014?

    Weird.

    This must be the worst case of denial in history and somehow it is not us right wingers who are ‘fools’

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  47. NX (602 comments) says:

    Niggly

    Forking unbelievable …. no, not Parker withdrawing … but the idiotic lprent at the Stranded.

    careful Niggly – lprent may ban you from the internet.

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  48. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    Shit I have just visited the Stranded. (attempts to spit out filthy taste in mouth—–fails. :) )

    It reads like the musings of Stalin’s henchmen as they cast their lots on Zinoviev’s fate.

    That lPrent is one sick puppy!!! :)

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  49. niggly (799 comments) says:

    James, you are dead right about them :-)

    NX, no worries, lprents paranoia extends to also Stuff – maybe he might ban them too from the internet!

    Anyway wrote the above post in haste – I don’t know much about Shearer so am giving him the benefit of the doubt (eg seeing he has actually done some “real” work in his past life, unlike most of the rest of Labour). Mind you I also gave Goff the benefit of the doubt when he took over in 2008 and boy was I wrong when Goff continued to be a two-faced hypocrite … here’s hoping Shearer doesn’t also turn feral…?

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  50. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Oh.My.God. @ Sanctuary baby is getting caned by the LWNJ’s for talking sense. FFS, I’m astounded. No wonder Labour are rooted if the fuckwits at the Standard are representative of the lefts’ core supporters.

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  51. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    Firing squad for Sanctuary then for revisionist thinking. :)

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  52. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Normally I consider Sanctuary a kneejerk commie but once you cut through the jingoism he does have the ability to interpret the public feeling and objectively look for the best outcome for NZ’rs, unlike that rabid twat lyn prentice.

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  53. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    The current state of the Labour party has a name and it is flourishing under the Prentice prat.

    That name is Yezhovshchina. :)

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  54. Nostalgia-NZ (4,898 comments) says:

    Meanwhile Flavell becomes deputy leader of the Government’s coalition partner the Maori Party, no comments arise from that. Makes me wonder who has taken over who.

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  55. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    Wise Generals keep their real enemies close Nostalgia-Nz whilst mocking the disarray of their apparent enemies.

    Sun Tzu would have said that if I hadn’t thought of it first. :)

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  56. Razork (375 comments) says:

    I love iPredict right now!!!!

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  57. slightlyrighty (2,496 comments) says:

    Love this quote from “Sanctuary” at the standard…..

    “As for Farrar, who cares what the otherside is thinking? The name of the game is to get them dancing to your tune, not the other the way round. Get the right man, get the right poll results and from Farrar up the whole National party will be irrelevant.”

    This sentence neatly encapsulates WHY LABOUR LOST. They dont care what the other side is thinking.

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  58. slijmbal (1,210 comments) says:

    This may actually be rather smart

    The man looks like he has popular appeal and is a break from the past

    Not a labour or greens man by the way

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  59. niggly (799 comments) says:

    Slijmbal, I’m no expert on Shearer & may be proven wrong, but at this point in time … I tend to agree with your sentiment.

    Once last comment about the Sub-Standard, judging by their comments methinks LPrent and Mickey Presland are in the Cunners Camp hence may be another reason why the are running interference blaming the Media and “Right-Wing” as trying to portray support for Shearer is a “setup” etc.

    (Which is kind of funny when the Right Wingers posting on the Sub Standard thread are saying whilst they prefer Shearer to lead for the sake of Labour, they would be happy if Cunliffe won the leadership … because National will whip his ass in head to head debates etc. But Micky and Prentice ignore those RW posters saying this)!

    But anyway the Sub Standard (Prent/Mickey) seems to think Shearer is a bit of a pussy and that JK will whip his ass (hence why supposedly RW’ers are supporting Shearer). But I reckon this again proves how wrong their perspectives are because again they demonstrate they don’t understand JK. JK is not Muldoon, nor Clark, nor even Goff at his worse moments – JK is not the sort of person to indulge in nasty character assasinations like the 3 aforementioned, unlike these 3 JK plays the ball not the man, so as long as Shearer can stick to the facts, he should do “ok” against JK (granted I cannot predict public opinion of such encounters though).

    Now another person who has demonstrated (massively) flawed perspectives in the Labour leadership debate over the last couple of days has been Cunliffe. What on earth was he thinking announcing Mahuta as his Deputy? (I don’t wish to indulge in some of the stereotype attacks against her of late). I mean, Mahuta as Deputy, if Labour somehow won in 2014, and she is to represent NZ on the World Stage? Dealing with foreign leaders, financiers, diplomats and so on? Good grief what is her experience in these areas? None!

    So what on earth was Cunliffe thinking? Methinks cynically trying to lock in Maori support. But if I could be more cynical, WTF, this isn’t the Green Party, it doesn’t matter if the Green Party have Turei as Co-Leader because the Greens don’t ever expect to ever win outright victory in an election (their goal was 10% of the vote, not 45-50%+ of the vote), in other words this arrangement suits the Green Party fine … but not Labour. What a misjudgement by Cunliffe (and another cynical example of Labour stealing Green Party tactics).

    [Note: apologies to Turei if what I wrote appears offensive, it's not meant to be, because at least Turei has a good brain and grasp of policy (disclaimer I don't agree with her 99% of the time but recognise she does have a "respectible" political presence within the Left spectrum)].

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  60. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,810 comments) says:

    It’s just like the UK Labour leadership vote. David Shearer is David Milliband and David Cunliffe is Ed Milliband.

    Lyn Prentice is just angry that his Union mates can’t jack up the election to give it to David Cunliffe/Ed Milliband just like in the UK.

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  61. swan (659 comments) says:

    “(Which is kind of funny when the Right Wingers posting on the Sub Standard thread are saying whilst they prefer Shearer to lead for the sake of Labour, they would be happy if Cunliffe won the leadership … because National will whip his ass in head to head debates etc. But Micky and Prentice ignore those RW posters saying this)!”

    Nah, they’re just wise to RWNJ tricks of reverse psychology. We’ll have to be smarter than that :P

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  62. thedavincimode (6,528 comments) says:

    OK, so here’s how it went down. 8-)

    Shearer and Parker both run to harvest the anti-Cunners support. The deal was that whomever got the least support initially would drop out and support the other.

    Meanwhile, Cunners conferred with his most fervant support base in front of the bathroom mirror. He decided to pick the surley and indolent Mahuta as his running mate to buy a few PC votes off the anti-Cunners brigade, and also because nobody else wanted anything to do with him.

    But he always intended that he would drop her like a boiling hot kumura to do a deal with the opposition (everyone else) by offering the other camp the deputy leadership and thereby march to glorious victory and his destiny as leader of the land.

    Mahuta would then be left to retreat back to the shadows where she has been for the last … (how long has she been in Parliament???).

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  63. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    short memories – Dishy David was mooted as ‘a future Labour Leader’ as soon as he was installed in his safe seat. This is the heir apparent, and was even at the outset. Choosing him will bring Labour closer to electability next time. If they don’t, there is a danger that this (last) election will be seen as the one in which the Greens began their rise to become the natural party of opposition in NZ. David ‘I’m in Charge’ Cunliffe will go down like a cup of cold sick with the electorate. I feel if Labour choose Cunliffe they will be signing their death warrant asa political force. If they choose Shearer, they can re-invent, re-juvinate and regain the ground they lost under Goff. One last note about Goff. I have every respect for the only honourable character in teh last caucus. He stood up and bravely took the bullet for his party. Unlike many I could mention, who still are obsessed with one thing only – themselves.. Once they shed the stench of the Helun Legacy, Labour might stand a fighting chance. Until they do they are dead men (and wimmin) walking.

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  64. Nostalgia-NZ (4,898 comments) says:

    ‘Johnboy (6,142) Says:

    December 1st, 2011 at 9:08 pm
    Wise Generals keep their real enemies close Nostalgia-Nz whilst mocking the disarray of their apparent enemies.

    Sun Tzu would have said that if I hadn’t thought of it first.’

    Very good.
    It was probably the key to the 89 election and HC’s failure to remedy.
    If ipredict is correct on the 2014 election how much more accomodating to the enemies within will JK have to be, and how palatable is that to the Nat’s core support?

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  65. Pete George (22,754 comments) says:

    Fascinating choice for Labour – two disticntly different futures with their own risks. They still have over a week to come to terms with where they want to take their party.

    No pressure, just the survival of the party. Same old or risky new?

    http://yournz.org/2011/12/02/fascinating-choice-for-labour/

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  66. Nostalgia-NZ (4,898 comments) says:

    Niggly at 10.25.
    Of course Cunniliffe was trying to lock in Maori support by teaming with Mahuta, and why not. Better to be in Government and able to deal with the shortfalls that you claim Mahuta has than being in opposition. There are reasons why a broad section of the Maori vote would not vote against Mahuta, if Cunniliffe understands that he already has his tent pegs in place. Shane Jones wouldn’t have been far off labour party leadership now if not for the absolutely irrelevant fact that he’s a wanker when not at home, count how many Maori have significant leadership roles in the various parties now – there’s a shift in the evolution of Maori power that would be a challenge for ipredict to construct. A less than quiet revolution that was not previously any where near blue territory and which labour are obviously not at terms with yet.

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  67. niggly (799 comments) says:

    Cheers NNZ, that makes perfect sense!

    “Shane Jones wouldn’t have been far off labour party leadership now if not for the absolutely irrelevant fact that he’s a wanker when not at home,”

    Re: your writing style in that sentance – LOL! But yes, a very astute sentance :-)

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  68. niggly (799 comments) says:

    Ooops sentence (must wake up properly before posting)!

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  69. tvb (4,196 comments) says:

    Shearer has a good back story with his humanitarian work with the UN. It did not create wealth but the Labour Party foes not worry about that, they are all about spending other people’s money, not making it.

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  70. Bodger (12 comments) says:

    slightlyrighty@ 8:04 pm…. If she lived in NZ she could have called them individually using their surnames!

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  71. Forrest (14 comments) says:

    Julian Robbins reported on last night’s Checkpoint on National Radio, that one of the reasons for David Parker’s withdrawl from the leadership race was concern over an upcoming Sunday newspaper’s expose on his personal life. The article will apparently centre around his relationship with Chris Knox’s partner Barbara Ward, with Julian Robbins suggesting that David Parker ‘had no stomach’ for entering into this media coverage. It would be a shame if something personal of this nature would have impacted on his leadership aspirations and chances.

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  72. backster (2,074 comments) says:

    CUNNERS warned us early in the piece that there were dirty tricks and backstabbing being employed against his candidature and he was fighting valiantly against such tactics. What he didn’t understand was that such tactics are the culture of the Labour Party and if he wants to win he has to use them. He needs to get Hodgson and Mallard the great muckrakers on side. CLARK was the great genius in these dark arts and Goff tried to emulate her nastiness but fell short in what was required. It seems that her current minion SHEARER is on track to have NZ show the way on the pathway to http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/42115 equality for all under the United Nations Politburo.

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  73. XChequer (350 comments) says:

    Love it!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6075286/Tamihere-Cunliffes-deputy-pick-smarmy

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  74. Pete George (22,754 comments) says:

    One of the best examples of why Labour won’t recover any time soon.

    You have a dead mind sometimes Pete George. A whole bunch of right wingers up and down the country – on blog sites, in the newspapers, on radio, stacking the on-line polls – all singing from roughly the same song sheet? That’s an orchestrated attempt to derail Labour’s attempt to open up the debate to it’s members and supporters. Of course there is spontaneous support out there, but if you are so politically stupid you can’t see the right are also trying to undermine the process then you should give politics up mate.

    This spontaneous conspiracy must be the work of Bryce Edwards.

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  75. grumpyoldhori (2,410 comments) says:

    tvb are you suggesting bankers create wealth, if so how the hell do they create it , subprimes ?

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  76. 3-coil (1,200 comments) says:

    Forrest (10:05am) – yes, a leftie aquaintance said the same thing a few days ago.

    Chris Knox is a longstanding Labour supporter (who could forget his earnest, but naff, campaign song he penned for Auntie Helen a few years back) and a favourite of the hip NZ music community. When he had his debilitating stroke, Parker (as a senior Labour member) should have been offering support, not making a move on Knox’s partner. Who would trust a potential “leader” who finds a Labour supporter dribbling in his wheelchair, and sees it as an opportunity to hit on the poor bastard’s missus. No wonder the self-proclaimed “principled” Mr Parker dived for cover with that story looming.

    Parker always was a devious prick, but this shows the depths he will sink to for his own gain.

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  77. lofty (1,303 comments) says:

    As my old man always said..”pulling out is not a manly thing to do, leave it in there and get the job done!”

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