Shearer the right man

December 2nd, 2011 at 12:29 pm by David Farrar

In my NZ Herald column I label the right man for Labour. I conclude:

As a National supporter, I know National will not always be in Government. I think a David Shearer led Labour Party will pose more of a threat to National, than any alternative leader. But I still hope that the Labour Caucus will elect Shearer as their leader, as if there is to be a Labour Government, I think the sort of policies we would get under a Shearer administration would be far better than we had under Helen Clark and Michael Cullen, or were offered by Phil Goff.

Shearer is backed by many reformers within Labour. A likely area of reform is around list ranking and candidate selection – specifically the heavy influence union affiliates get in these decisions. Many in the caucus are upset that new MPs such as Carmel Sepuloni, Kelvin Davis and Stuart Nash were ranked below longer serving MPs with union backgrounds. They lost some of their most promising talent from 2008. If a Shearer led Labour can reform the party so that it operates on a one person, one vote principle then Labour is far more likely to regain the votes of its former supporters.

It will be interesting to see how Cunliffe and Shearer do on The Nation tomorrow.

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56 Responses to “Shearer the right man”

  1. Viking2 (11,420 comments) says:

    Shearer makes the point that Labour need a new team. Exactly correct for the last time they had anything resembling a team was in the early 80’s. Look what they achieved before Lange stuffed the Pope and rolled over.

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  2. tvb (4,366 comments) says:

    Leading the labour party is a whole lot more complex than the national party. There are all those warring factions, there is the union dominance who protected some dead beat mps over more capable mps.

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  3. Manolo (13,590 comments) says:

    I would blame D. Lange for Clark’s ascension, first within the Labour ranks and later to PM.
    She, nowadays resident of New York, thoroughly stuffed the country.

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  4. burt (8,241 comments) says:

    If Shearer is neither gay or a fanatical unionist then he is exactly what the Labour party need… however if that’s the case it will be exactly why he won’t be the leader.

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  5. tom hunter (4,749 comments) says:

    Fomenting Happy Mischief

    This may make the Standardnistas heads explode, judging by the comments there over the last few days and assuming they’ve not taken any notice of those left-wing commentators calling for Right-Wing-Nut-Jobs – and DPF – to be ignored.

    I say that because the argument has been that if the RWNJ community thinks Shearer is a good choice it must be because we think he’ll be a failure and that we’re afraid of facing the mighty CunXllife for the next three years and the 2014 election.

    Whether this is just projection on their part – because this is apparently how they approach politics in intensity of thinking – matters less than the evidence that they’re insane. I say insane because once they dive down any of these conspiratorial rabbit holes the hall of mirrors opens up before them endlessly.

    In other words: if DPF and we RWNJ’s really are so Machiavellian as to promote a terrible candidate then of course we’d talk up Shearer, knowing that the LWMB (Left-Wing-Moon-Bat) community will then react violently and scream for Cunliffe instead. It’s rather like Cullen and Toll: there’s nothing easier than leading your enemies to exactly where they want to go.

    Everything I say is a lie.

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  6. burt (8,241 comments) says:

    Manolo

    She did what all good socialists do – pretend to care for the masses while feathering her own nest at the expense of the lowest paid and least privelaged.

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  7. RRM (9,841 comments) says:

    She… thoroughly stuffed the country.

    Yep, public debt paid down drastically under Clark/Cullen (in spite of unprecedented public sector growth), and greater freedom and consistency added to certain oddball and outdated employment/ marital property laws. Free Trade with China.

    That’s a real legacy of destruction right there. I can see how you might say they “stuffed the country”… :-/

    (Remember how the right wing used to crow about “the train set” until the rate of borrowing by NACT “heroes” made this all a little bit too embarassing, and it was quietly forgotten?)

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  8. burt (8,241 comments) says:

    RRM

    You seem to have forgotten that under Clark and Cullen’s management NZ was in recession before the global crisis. You lefties need to just once actually read the papers rather than the party talking points.

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  9. burt (8,241 comments) says:

    RRM

    If I over charge my customers and use that profit to pay off my credit card I too could call myself a prudent manager. Ignore the fact my customers stop buying from me and bugger off – because by that time somebody else has taken over the company when I got sacked claiming I was a god for clearing my credit card.

    Boy if I did that you would think I was a hero….

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  10. RRM (9,841 comments) says:

    burt –

    Are you saying that if Cullen had regulated the mortgage market more, perhaps our bubble wouldn’t have burst? :-P

    Surely a country so utterly reliant on exports (dairy) as us, is inevitably going to be among the first to go into recession, as even the slightest easing in consumption by the big consumers hugely impacts our main primary production?

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  11. dime (9,869 comments) says:

    RRM – ill never forget the train set.

    Or the arrogance. Or the hatred.

    Have a think about what may have been if we didnt have weird envy taxes, pathetic attempts to keep income tax high by making people with kids beneficiaries etc They blew a huge opportunity. A decade a world wide prosperity stuffed up by angry little lefties.

    I say ill never forget, but i dont think about it a lot. only when some lefty tries to pass off the history teacher or whatever he was as a great finance minister. for shame.

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  12. nzclassicalliberal (34 comments) says:

    It’s funny to see the commenters on the Herald site quoting back David’s $50 million/50 million lives pitch. That’s really grown some legs.

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  13. Mark (1,481 comments) says:

    The appointment of Shearer is only the first step in a long road back for labour. He has to build and credible team from the remnants of what is left of the party. He not only has to shake up the front bench, he has to start the refreshment of the parliamentary team and convince Mallard, Goff, King et al that there time is past and they need to make way for new blood. At the same time the party itself needs to attract back a membership base that dilutes the factions, especially the Union movement.

    All in all he has a herculean task and in a FPP environment it would take a couple of terms. Under MMP he could well pose a major threat to a Centre Right government by simply winning back 5 or 6% of the vote and still get to be prime minister with the job half done.

    Whilst it is presumptuous to thing Shearer is going to win the labour nomination it is hard to see Cunfiff coming back now.

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  14. dime (9,869 comments) says:

    “Many in the caucus are upset that new MPs such as Carmel Sepuloni, Kelvin Davis and Stuart Nash were ranked below longer serving MPs with union backgrounds. They lost some of their most promising talent from 2008. ”

    That sulking turd wasnt a promising talent.

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  15. burt (8,241 comments) says:

    RRM

    Cullen was a muppet. His approach to taxation was his problem. Plucking the Goose with the least amount of hissing is where he went wrong. Taxing 75% of high school teachers as rich pricks shows just how much he canabilised core Labour supporter base to make it look like he was doing a good job.

    Sure the rich could have been taxed some more, but they hissed too much so he left his own supporters bare and exposed when the cold winter came around.

    How you lovers of big govt couldn’t see just what a failure he was is stunning.

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  16. hj (6,927 comments) says:

    Minister David Cunliffe said attracting skilled migrants was “a must” for economic growth. He said links drawn in the research between soaring house prices, mortgage rates and immigration were too simplistic.

    Clydesdale said New Zealanders were not being given an accurate assessment of how immigration was affecting the economy and that most previous research on the subject resembled a “wish list”, with little hard data showing economic benefits. The Government is approving more people for temporary work permits and permanent residency as it seeks to plug worker shortages. About 51,000 people were approved for permanent New Zealand residence in the last year. Over 60 per cent came in under the skilled or business categories. But Clydesdale said the arrival of more wealthy immigrants was inflating the housing market.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/4018185a11.html
    http://www.interest.co.nz/kiwisaver/52140/migration-policy-linked-inflated-housing-prices-government-spending-and-low-savings

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  17. slijmbal (1,230 comments) says:

    @RRM for god’s sake how do you not understand massively increasing the size of long term government spending enormously during the boom years will screw us over in the inevitable bust years? Particularly where the spending increases almost entirely relate to distributing wealth rather than increasing our ability to generate wealth – increased size of government is a brake on the economy – that is accepted by even the most left wing economists.

    The vaguest element of economic rationality would assist your arguments

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  18. James Stephenson (2,155 comments) says:

    So if Shearer does get it, do we call it as Goff’s revenge over Clark?

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  19. David Garrett (7,112 comments) says:

    I think you are about half right DPF (I think it was Harry Truman…)

    Although I am sure he is a perfectly nice guy, and probably very capable at spending UN money, the fact that they are now turning to Shearer as a potential leader, an MP who has served less than a term, and never set the House on fire when I was there, speaks volumes….

    When I was bored in the House (a lot of it is so booooring) I used to amuse myself by looking over at various members of the Labour Party and wonder what Savage and Semple and Peter Fraser would have made of them….the just retired Rick Barker was the only one I could think of who Norm Kirk might have felt comfortable having a beer with….but here’s the crucial thing: while the world is a very different place than in 1972 to be sure, things havent changed so much that Big Norm wouldn’t fit in at a roof shout….(” A what?” say half the leftards on here!!) He might wonder why no-one was smoking, where the quart bottles were, and why there were sheilas in chippies clothes, and they were swearing like the boys…it is LABOUR who abadoned their constituency…it still exists, just in a slightly different form…..and they don’t give a rats about the needs of the GLBT “community” and the like, which the Labour leadership has focused on for so long….I’ll bet dollars to donuts your average “worker” would have more in common with ME than Grant Robertson and David Parker!

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  20. burt (8,241 comments) says:

    David

    Well said.

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  21. Paulus (2,608 comments) says:

    Shearer is the right man, but he has two problems to overcome, his own “lack” of forceful personality. Brian Edwards can sort that out.
    And can he exert his authority over his highly factionised caucus, with often their outside caucus influences being paramount.
    They were a ragtag backstabbing mob under Goff – he will have to overcome this – can he ?

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  22. David Garrett (7,112 comments) says:

    Dime: I assume the “sulking turd” you refer to was Sepuloni, she whose mentor was Cosgrove? I believe she did have a union background also…Nash was an OK performer in the House when he could keep his mind on what he was supposed to be speaking about…

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  23. dime (9,869 comments) says:

    the line of “john key made money overseas and i saved lives” made shearer sound like a wanker. if he was smart he would let others figure that out and say it.

    shearer started out as a teacher ffs. always friggen teachers!

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  24. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    I notice Shearer has started the usual Labour activity of “man of the people” credentials.

    In his case he clearly had to sit down and think for several hours because all he could come up with was “I am a man of the people – because I went to Papatoetoe high school”

    I wonder how long it will be before one of these two turkeys starts invoking the name of Norman Kirk?

    For those who are unaware Norman Kirk was a two time loser as Labour leader and a small minded, petty, spiteful, mean spirited, racist, sexist, bullying, bigoted, paranoid, mentally ill windbag.

    He was a man who openly derided his own family in public as not being good enough for him (which tells you all you ever need to know about a man, in my opinion).

    Other Norman Kirk attributes include gross cowardice in World War 2 by avoiding military service; having the damned cheek to attend Anzac Day services and laying wreaths at the Cenotaph as a senior politician, along with strong criticism of New Zealanders fighting in Vietnam vis-a-vis his own activities during 1939 – 45

    Norman Kirk’s sole achievement in his miserable life was proving you can “fool all of the people some of the time” by having himself posthumously viewed by New Zealanders as a towering titan cut off in his prime, a kind of lost saviour whereby New Zealand has been the poorer since his passing.

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  25. oldpark () says:

    @nzclassicalliberal(7) Sounds ambigious from them.How about like for like.Will goody twoshoes Shearer if he gets the job ,donate two thirds of his income to charity.Then if he does that might at least get him on a level playing field,money wise.

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  26. dime (9,869 comments) says:

    James – big Kirk fan are ya? lol

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  27. David Garrett (7,112 comments) says:

    Ah….I am not an expert on Kirk James, but when WW II began Kirk was a teenager….born 1923 which makes him 20 in 1943….

    I dont know about the other stuff you cite, but he was self educated and built his own house (which is still standing) although he wasnt a carpenter…and I still believe our proudest moment in foreign affairs was him sending the frigate to Muroroa…it was that and that alone which prompted the perfidious French to switch to underground testing…up to that point, the pricks had given the finger to anyone who criticised them and carried on regardless…As they proved 12 years later, Kirk took a very real gamble that the treacherous bastards could have fired on us….

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  28. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    I know Tom Hunter –
    (December 2nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm ) – I was thinking about this earlier is the Sub-Standard really populated by people who have managed to convince themselves that the only reason anyone would pick Shearer is because they are channeling a right-wing conspiracy.

    Like – on the premise that Cunliffe will be the white-stallioned knight in shining armour that will lead Labour back from oblivion, and that right-wing people are so frightened of the prospect of Cunliffe winning they are all conspiring to raise Shearer’s profile in the media.

    But After I get over laughing at this ridiculous prospect, I have to admit I’m a little concerned that there are people out there so delusional that are allowed out without medication. Then a little frightened that they not only have a blog but that it has unquestioning followers.

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  29. tractordan (3 comments) says:

    Dime, that line you mention “john key made money overseas and i saved lives” sure did make Shearer sound like a wanker.

    I was also thinking that no doubt he did amass a bag of gold while away. No doubt he’s not short of a penny, but would be nice to know whether he’s got the big house in Pt Chev, the lifestyle block and the bach etc – a long way from really understanding who he is representing.

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  30. tvb (4,366 comments) says:

    I assume the ABC faction will try and stop Cunliffe. The fact that such a faction exists means that Cunliffe is probably the better person who SHOULD lead the Party.

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  31. David Garrett (7,112 comments) says:

    tvb: the ABC faction??

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  32. BeaB (2,119 comments) says:

    I hope someone is going to dig into Shearer’s UN career. Did he do what he claims? Staring down war lords? Really?
    Swanning round in UN SUVs with a big purse of money and a comfy hotel room to return to may be closer to the truth. I have seen these guys in action and they are a cynical joke.
    Or do we just accept his story because he seems to be a nice guy, if a bit weak and twitchy.

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  33. Manolo (13,590 comments) says:

    Anyone But Cunliffe.

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  34. David Garrett (7,112 comments) says:

    Manolo: Thanks….

    BeaB: Yes indeed….or will the “journalists” we have these days just accept his CV because he’s a leftie? Funnily enough, there are still one or two apparently digging for the “real reason” I obtained a passport in another’s name almost 30 years ago….funny how dogged they can be when the potential shit is on the right….

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  35. DJP6-25 (1,376 comments) says:

    David Garret 1:39 Well said. I hope it’s anyone but Shearer. He seems vaguely capable. NZ needs another two terms of Liabour in chaos.

    cheers

    David Prosser

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  36. hmmokrightitis (1,586 comments) says:

    Personal point of constant frustration alert…

    Taxpayers are NOT customers. Customers have freedom of choice. I can chose whether to part with my hard earned when I am a customer.

    To government of all shades, local and national, I am a hostage.

    That is all :)

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  37. BlairM (2,321 comments) says:

    I think if Labour are smart they will take a punt on Shearer. He is someone who has achieved in his life and looks like he can relate to the ordinary people Labour used to represent. He could definitely make Labour competitive again. As for personality, since when did personality ever matter as a qualification to be PM in NZ?! Holyoake, Clark, Bolger anyone?

    As a relatively new MP he is a risky proposition, but so was John Key. Can he lead though? Bill English was thought to be a stellar performer and a leader in waiting until he actually became leader and we all realised he was awful. So many unknowns, but when the alternative is someone who was around for that godawful Clark government, why not take your roll of the die?

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  38. kunst5 (51 comments) says:

    He looks like an experienced, rather stubborn horse trainer to me – but then you never know, he could win the race against waving and smiling PM Key in one or two years.

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  39. oldpark () says:

    I think Shearer will follow the line of Clark,s anti Israel stance.She has already revealed her hand on that.Some of Shearers comments coming out of Lebanon in 2006 seemed to say Israel were the agressors not the terrorists Hisbollah.I recall Hisbollah kidnapped an Israeli soldier and killed another one.Why would the Israelis stand idly by.Surely Shearer would have acknowledged that.Of course the UN is full of despots,and self serving bludgers.

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  40. kunst5 (51 comments) says:

    In stead of political propaganda – a little enlightenment for you oldpark

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  41. thedavincimode (6,719 comments) says:

    But hasn’t Cunny bro’ shown that only he can relate to working people? That he can get down and homey?

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  42. lastmanstanding (1,287 comments) says:

    Seems to me Shearer was a UN breaucrat rather than the saviour of 50 million hes being protrayed as. Spin spin spin

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  43. oldpark () says:

    I am more interested in the truth KUNST5 than some claptrap on u tube.There are some people who are anti sematic and some who arn’t.

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  44. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    I care not who runs their scabby arsed little party, when it’s all said and done they are still socialists who long for big government, all it entails and require constantly increasing taxes to pay for it. They are and always will be a party that promotes an ideology that has been proven time and time again to be a total crock of shit. God forbid these troughers ever regain power.

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  45. niggly (820 comments) says:

    Whether this is just projection on their part – because this is apparently how they approach politics in intensity of thinking – matters less than the evidence that they’re insane. I say insane because once they dive down any of these conspiratorial rabbit holes the hall of mirrors opens up before them endlessly.

    Everything I say is a lie.

    The poor dears may be suffering from sort of PTSD, after rallying for 3 years against all-the-odds (and polls) Labour would triumph in 2011 …. so maybe this would be a good time to forment some mischief indeed and scatter a few other names and schemes around on the Sub Standard …. might be the equivalent of popping a paper bag over there at the moment, they might take such fright thinking a grenade has been lobbed in their direction ;-)

    Anyway as Lee C said, these crazies are in charge of a website, broadcasting to all and sundry their delusions ;-)

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  46. The Silent Majority (88 comments) says:

    I saw a lot of Shearer on the Mt Albert by election campaign trail. Everyone then was saying that he is a potential future leader. I didn’t think so then. He has charisma in a quiet, introverted sort of way, rather than an extroverted way. He is not a fighter, which I would have thought you need in opposition. That said, if he can get over his stumbling speech and forgetting words, he could be a brilliant foil for Key. They are so alike in many ways. He is likeable, humble, gorgeous looking and truly seems to have a sense of compassion and caring about him. With a bit of presentation skills training, the voters could love him, especially the women!

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  47. David Garrett (7,112 comments) says:

    Shearer “gorgeous looking” ?? Jeez, there is hope for all of us aging rakes!

    I saw zero charisma, and very little ability in the House….I cant remember hearing him speak once when he made anyone sit up and take notice…even his own side were visibily underwhelmed…

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  48. Nostalgia-NZ (5,121 comments) says:

    ‘The Silent Majority (75) Says:

    December 2nd, 2011 at 10:45 pm
    I saw a lot of Shearer on the Mt Albert by election campaign trail. Everyone then was saying that he is a potential future leader. I didn’t think so then. He has charisma in a quiet, introverted sort of way, rather than an extroverted way. He is not a fighter, which I would have thought you need in opposition. That said, if he can get over his stumbling speech and forgetting words, he could be a brilliant foil for Key. They are so alike in many ways. He is likeable, humble, gorgeous looking and truly seems to have a sense of compassion and caring about him. With a bit of presentation skills training, the voters could love him, especially the women!’

    And you could say he’s not a fighter when he’s put his hand up to lead a Labour Party is disarray?

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  49. Clint Heine (1,570 comments) says:

    Cullen and Clark buying back the railways when they were well over a dozen points behind in the polls was the worst example of financial terrorism possible at a time when the world economy was turning into custard. They knew it would be expensive to maintain and they paid well over the odds so that Key and co were unable to push their policies properly.

    In some countries they would have been strung up for it.

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  50. Manolo (13,590 comments) says:

    If Shearer is gorgeous, I must be George Clooney himself. Jeepers!

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  51. slightlyrighty (2,472 comments) says:

    JamesS

    To be fair, Norman Kirk was called up for Military service in 1941, and was found to be medically unfit.

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  52. Pete George (23,481 comments) says:

    I saw zero charisma, and very little ability in the House….

    How important is this for a leader? To lead effectively do they need to be seen as a leader in the House?

    Or is that too last century, and has the focus for most people moved from the House to everyone’s house via soundbite TV?

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  53. tvb (4,366 comments) says:

    Shearer’s biggest job in the next 12 months is to reform his party starting with his reshuffle. Next is to move the old die hards on. I trust Andrew Little will be helpful here after all he was the author of the dreadful Party list. Goff never had much authority over is party, he was too morally compromised to have that. Shearer seems to be the man with an excellent back story. In fact the back story of Shearer contrasts nicely with Key. So come election year Key could be in for a fight with National’s third term is far from assured especially if the economy is still in the doldrums.

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  54. sparky (235 comments) says:

    Nostalgia, sorry I don’t love David Shearer. He does absolutely nothing for me. If your talking about looks, forget it. I haven’t even heard him speak. When it comes to a Leader, I honestly don’t believe he has the skills. I am sure he did a good job within the UN, but that doesn’t make you a great front man. John Key has charisma as well as leadership skills, and shines, and I liked Nationals policies, in particular WELFARE REFORM. My reason for not voting Labour, had nothing to do with not liking Phil Goff, I simply didn’t like the policies. They should call the Labour party, the Welfare party, there certainly not there for the working man, which is what the Labour Party was built on.

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  55. Paulus (2,608 comments) says:

    I have just read that Shearer was a school teacher, before going on the UN tit.

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  56. Johnboy (16,092 comments) says:

    If he has a chin and straight white teeth he is in with a chance. :)

    Still a joker who has faced up to massed AK’s and RPG’s and still got the little dark kiddies exam papers thru is hardly a match for a man who has faced up to the combined forces of Wall St. and laughed all the way back to his trust fund. :)

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