Pike River recovery

January 28th, 2012 at 3:08 pm by David Farrar

Michael Daly at Stuff reports:

Recovery of the bodies of the men killed in the Coal mine disaster is not expected to be completed for at least 3 1/2 years, a new independent report says.

The estimates in the draft independent review by engineer Bruce McLean depend on a successful sale of the mine.

Even with a sale, the report does not expect recovery of the bodies until some time between July 2015 and June 2017.

That timetable depends on the completion of a new shaft or tunnel to establish a ventilation circuit by June 2014.

This report or review was commissioned by the families of the dead miners. While the conclusions are probably not the ones they hoped for, it is good they agree with the advice from the receivers and the Government that one can’t just rush in them in a matter of weeks or months.

The fact the Government won’t consent to a transfer of the license unless the new owner agrees to do best efforts to recover the bodies means that eventually they will recover the bodies or remains, I believe. It will be important closure for the families.

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13 Responses to “Pike River recovery”

  1. Pongo (371 comments) says:

    Why the hell won’t Joyce do a deal with the receivers, all he needs to do is knock the top off the hill dig to 7 billion dollars of coal through solid energy and retrieve the bodies. The mine is in the middle of nowhere and when they have finished create a lake and nature reserve.
    We could top up the Cullen fund, retrieve the bodies, create a great reserve but the problem is our poll driven PM who seems to thing Robyn Malcolm represents the majority view. He needs to remind himself of why he survived and got to the top in the worlds most cutthroat business, trust me my cousin retired at thirty working in Japan as a currency dealer so I know what it takes. Trust his gut and leave a legacy.

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  2. Viking2 (11,284 comments) says:

    Their ain’t many remains in a crematorium. Just saying.

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  3. Johnboy (15,602 comments) says:

    As soon as we moved the excavators in Penny et al would camp on top of the site and the wishy washy government wankers don’t have a policy to apply re human compost.

    I suggest, “dig them in” would seem a good place to start if anyone wishes to start writing such legislation.

    Perhaps Maggie Barry could be put in charge of proceeding the policy? :)

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  4. Steve (4,524 comments) says:

    Who would notice a few protesters amongst millions of tonnes of coal? NZ will never ever catch up with Australia while these scumbags hold up progress. HTFU
    Dig baby dig

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  5. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Bodies are lost at sea every day, this closure thing is just a new gobble de gook.

    Honestly there won’t be much to find 2017 and in reality there might be nothing left already.

    The cynic in me says the “family spokesman” who just happens to be unioned up to his arse will keep this bleeding out slowly meaning the families wil never move on.

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  6. Viking2 (11,284 comments) says:

    ah two cynics then. You are catching up PEB.A couple more years and I will have you trained.

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  7. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    Jeez…. talk about **piss-arsing around**. What about recovery using robots?
    The families should be given a choice. Either a recovery now (using robots), or a recovery in a few years, using people.
    I find it very difficult to believe that it isn’t possible to whack together a robot that is capable of recovering a body in a mine. FFS – surely all you need is a front-end loader? Yes, it is possible that during the process, er, “bits” might drop off the bodies, but do you really want to wait for another few years?
    F**k – I wonder if the Chch City Council is involved in the glacial progress of events in this “recovery”?

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  8. adamsmith1922 (890 comments) says:

    Pike River – a tragedy

    Royal Commission a necessity

    we all know these people are dead, constant media not needed

    Whilst feeling for the families we need to move on, the media are prolonging the agont

    In fact families are hindering issue

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  9. Swampy (273 comments) says:

    Robots – no such thing possible. As far as opencasting goes the cost would outweigh benefits, the coal is not as valuable as claimed – read the Royal Commission transcripts, I would not be surprised if NZOG get court action against them from some of their investors as there appears to have been misrepresentation of the quality of the coal produced. Complete cowboys.

    How do you make a robot that can negotiate all types of terrain possible and carry the massive amount of cable needed to travel 3 km underground etc, just not feasible at present. At least at Deepwater, the ROVs have the advantage of being in water, no tunnels or anything or the possibility of explosions.

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  10. Swampy (273 comments) says:

    Who wants to dig through the hill, great way to restart the fire.

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  11. davidp (3,561 comments) says:

    I’m reading American Ground – Unbuilding the World Trade Center (http://www.amazon.com/American-Ground-Unbuilding-World-Center/dp/0865475822)… It describes a situation involving finding fire fighter’s bodies that seems quite similar to the recover-at-any-cost situation that we see at Pike River. The fire fighters obviously suffered a loss but let it become pathological with a mix of comradeship, unionism, Irish ethnicity, and publicly proclaimed heroism. There was in excess of 1.2 million tonnes of debris and for it to be cleared in a finite amount of time required serious engineering equipment combined with body-part detection off site. This seems to have offended many fire fighters who believed that only fire fighters should search for dead fire fighters, that the only respectful way to do this was by hand at the site, and that bodies of fire fighters should be placed in flag draped coffins when found while civilians could be loaded in to body bags.

    It also manifested itself in an inability to recognise shortcomings in their own performance. A fire engine was dug out of the rubble that was full of new blue jeans that had been looted from a WTC shop before one of the towers had collapsed. Rather than face up to the fact that some of their colleagues had looted a building that was on fire while people were trying to escape, the fire department invented a scenario where the jeans had blown in to the engine and then miraculously folded themselves neatly. And then fire fighters at the recovery site decided an even better response was to fight the police.

    They’re dead bodies. The previous owners have no use for them. Move on!

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  12. Johnboy (15,602 comments) says:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10781985

    Amazing, fucking amazing!

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  13. hj (6,756 comments) says:

    One solution (the National Party might like) is sell Pike to the Chinese and bring in Chinese miners; they will get the bodies out.

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