Samoan PM on poverty

January 25th, 2012 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

Michael Field at Stuff reports:

Samoans who claim they are poor are lazy, Samoan Prime Minister Tuilaepa Sailele says.

In a comment on the government website Savali, Tuilaepa says having no food, water, clothes, a home or access to medical treatment was .

There was no poverty in . 

“Every Samoan has claim to land. There are plenty of mangoes, pawpaws, bananas and breadfruit falling off and rotting on the ground, plenty of fish in the sea,” he said.

“The problem is too many people are coming into town and loathing around. They are lazy and do not want to go back to their village to work the land. They should stay in their village where their lands are and develop it.”

Tuilaepa says that some Samoans think that not having car, a TV or a European house is poverty.

“Those are luxuries. Having none of those is certainly not poverty.”

Maybe the PM of Samoa should have been appointed to the Welfare Working Group!

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21 Responses to “Samoan PM on poverty”

  1. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    ‘people are coming into town and loathing around’. Yeah, we have a fair few of those on Kiwiblog.

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  2. Positan (384 comments) says:

    Shouldn’t the expression be “loafing around?”

    To loathe is to detest abhor and abominate – hardly quantifiable in the circumstances, unless, of course, the said “loafers” are “loathed” by the rest of the Samoan community.

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  3. Longknives (4,678 comments) says:

    The word ‘Poverty’ is used far too often in New Zealand (can’t speak for Samoa as I’ve never been there), especially by left leaning media trying desperately to discredit the Government.
    As I’ve said before- Go to Africa and South America if you want to experience real ‘Poverty’, It doesn’t exist in New Zealand.
    A lazy solo mum who is struggling to pay her sky bill because she spent a large portion of her generous DPB handout on the pokies and booze is not ‘Poverty’. It’s stupidity.

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  4. Pete George (23,278 comments) says:

    I think ‘loathing around’ could be an appropriate term – for those who hate not getting enough to fund their sedentary lifestyle.

    Poverty is always relative. It is an inappropriate term for all the associated issues around benefits, education, crime, employment opportunities etc etc. Poverty can be a cause of some things but it is as much a symptom, and it is rarely a sole cause.

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  5. Nostalgia-NZ (5,027 comments) says:

    Pretty fair point by the PM about the concept of not having a european house car etc, I hope he pointed out that it’s far from deeply wide spread though, and the characteristics of it are more an envy thing.

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  6. Scott Chris (5,960 comments) says:

    David Farrar says:- “Maybe the PM of Samoa should have been appointed to the Welfare Working Group!”

    Hmph.

    1) The Samoan PM doesn’t seem to understand human nature.
    2) Poverty is a relative measure.

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  7. RRM (9,633 comments) says:

    ATTENTION REPUBLICANS:

    We have found you a credible Presidential candidate, one who talks sense and has a coherent fiscal and social policy. Nominate this man.

    Tuilaepa Sailele 2012

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  8. immigant (950 comments) says:

    Then they come to Auckland, settle in Otara, loath around.

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  9. B A W (98 comments) says:

    Singapore used to get New Zealand Aid, New Zealand troops died to keep South Korea Free, yet today because the people of these lands worked hard these countries are very rich, yet only a few decades ago these places were quite poor.

    Work hard = likely to do better than the poor.

    Out of interest do they have the dole or the old age pension in Samoa?

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  10. Scott Chris (5,960 comments) says:

    Note:

    You can loath loafers, but you can’t loaf loathers unless you throw bread at them.

    In which case you’d be well advised to duck unless you are one.

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  11. YesWeDid (1,041 comments) says:

    ‘ATTENTION REPUBLICANS: We have found you a credible Presidential candidate, one who talks sense and has a coherent fiscal and social policy. Nominate this man. Tuilaepa Sailele 2012′

    Just don’t ask him what he did with the $50M of relief money donated after the 2009 tsunami.

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  12. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    I have said the same thing as the Samoan PM did, right here on Kiwiblog in one of the discussion threads on poverty. There is no poverty in NZ. It is the term used by the left (the likes of Tapu Misa) to describe useful idiots (particularly in South Auckland) whom are being used as political football.

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  13. immigant (950 comments) says:

    Out of interest do they have the dole or the old age pension in Samoa?

    Yeah NZ old age pension, but only if they live in Sauff AK.

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  14. bij (66 comments) says:

    i think the issue is that children suffer from poverty due, among other things, to circumstances or actions – or lack thereof – that are legally the responsibility of their parents. whether parents are on the dole, have a job, like a beer or a smoke, or not, it is a problem.

    Conflating the Samoan PM’s words to “there is no poverty in NZ” is pretty typical Kiwiblog fare though i guess.

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  15. nadir (100 comments) says:

    I’m surprised nobody has picked up on the obvious explanation for the Prime Ministers outburst.

    Clearly, he is racist.

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  16. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Immigrant asked…

    Out of interest do they have the dole or the old age pension in Samoa?

    I believe not. I’m not aware of any Pacific Island country that have welfare program, simply because there’s no dosh to give away.

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  17. adze (1,982 comments) says:

    I think there is poverty in New Zealand, but mostly it is a poverty of spirit (not saying that in a judgemental way, necessarily).

    If however we are simply defining poverty as a statistical percentile of a nation’s wealth, without reference to what is really required to live in that nation, the term would seem to be merely a proxy for the “inequality” narrative.

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  18. Lance (2,555 comments) says:

    So is issuing food stamps as part of the dole like….. racist?

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  19. hj (6,687 comments) says:

    What happened to “indigenous people live sustainably” (part of the Green Party lexicon).
    there’s no such thing as over population etc, etc

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  20. PhilP (158 comments) says:

    I believe PM Tuilaepa Sailele Malielegaoi is mostly correct when he says there is no poverty in Samoa. I have visited there 4 times since 2009, (in fact was there the day of the eathquake and tsunami), and have only seen 1 person begging. There is no welfare in Samoa so people have to work to feed themselves unless money is sent back home from relatives living in NZ, Australia etc.
    You do however see youngsters selling goods all over the Motu which they obviously have to do to survive.
    During my time in Samoa, (and I have lived in a village), I can’t recall seeing anyone going hungry but I guess like anywhere there are those that don’t have as much as others. Samoans are very resourceful and not afraid to work from my experience.
    Many work in the tourism trade and derive their income from us tourists, take the Maketi for example in Apia.

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  21. Cactus Kate (549 comments) says:

    The PM of Samoa should head the Welfare Working Group.

    Chris Scott comes up with a piece of deep thought and says poverty is a relative measure. Yeah, if you keep breeding relatives your whole family gets poverty.

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