Another POAL strike

February 9th, 2012 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

Hayden Donnell at NZ Herald reports:

workers are set to strike for a full week in a new escalation of their long running employment dispute.

The just-announced strike action is set to start at 7am on February 24.

It is in addition to a partial strike set to take place from February 15 to 22.

So basically, they will be on strike for two weeks continuously.

How long until all the customers have gone to Tauranga?

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45 Responses to “Another POAL strike”

  1. Keeping Stock (10,340 comments) says:

    Not long.

    And how long until all the jobs are contracted out and the MUNZ is neutered? Not long either, thank goodness.

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  2. Nostalgia-NZ (5,205 comments) says:

    So we keep hearing Keeping Stock, so we keep hearing.

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  3. George Patton (349 comments) says:

    Perhaps Len Brown will come out and recommend both sides take a holiday.

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  4. Nostalgia-NZ (5,205 comments) says:

    He’ll probably want to go on holiday with them.

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  5. nasska (11,509 comments) says:

    Maybe it is all part of Loopy Len’s master plan. Let the thickos of MUNZ crash POAL financially, sell the land the port occupies for high density apartments & use the proceeds to build a train set.

    After all Len’s a socialist & he knows deep down that importing & exporting is a bourgeois activity not appropriate to a major city.

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  6. Cunningham (844 comments) says:

    I heard that they are distributing a massive amount of brochures (they said 350,000 on the radio but not sure if this is correct) to the general public to try and win people over. Why on earth a Union should spend money creating this propoganda to give to people who actually have nothing to do with the situation is beyond me. They have already lost the battle and are now going about losing the war. I imagine most people have no sympathy for them.

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  7. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    Cunningham says: “Why on earth a Union should spend money creating this propaganda … ?”

    Because they follow the standard propagandist meme: “…you start with an untruth and build upon it with more lies and distortions, confusing the audience with the volume of misinformation.”

    Unfortunately, this ‘Josef Goebbels’ tactic is evidenced regularly. Yup – even in 2012.

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  8. wreck1080 (3,917 comments) says:

    Beggars belief doesn’t it?

    Ports of Auckland workers lost when the public learnt they’re on 90 grand a year for unskilled labour.

    There’d be plenty of youngsters who’d jump at the privilege of working there.

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  9. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    I wonder if DPF has always had a pathological hatred of unions.

    If POAL wanted to negotiate, I am sure agreement could be reached.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1202/S00084/seven-day-full-strike-for-ports-of-auckland.htm

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  10. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    “The Council meeting this morning received the 2010/2011 annual report of Auckland Council Investments Limited.

    Mr Parsloe says the report outlined the profitability and success of the port.

    The annual report notes cargo and container volumes had achieved record levels, that all time best crane rates for loading containers had been achieved in what was described in the report as a “great annual result” after a “challenging year”, and ship turnaround times had also reached new record levels of achievement.

    Mr Parsloe says the report flatly contradicts the so-called productivity crisis that had been manufactured by port management and promoted in the media, damaging the ports reputation.

    He says the results were a credit to the workforce who were now under threat of outsourcing by management.”

    A great annual result? Who would’ve thought?

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  11. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    You’re struggling now Ross, perhaps you should take up writing children’s fairy tales, they might believe you.

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  12. nasska (11,509 comments) says:

    …”perhaps you should take up writing children’s fairy tales”…..

    I’ll start it for you ‘ross’.

    Once upon a time in LaLa Land there was this bunch of workshy no hopers who thought that $91.000/year wasn’t enough pay for the incredibly skilled job they were doing…….

    You can take it from there.

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  13. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    No going back. Tauranga businesses are recruiting. 17 new straddle drivers alone.
    Railways running trains way more often, one an hour shortly.
    That’s Auckland stuffed.
    And we still have wharf space. haha

    and Oh we are refurbishing our cranes to lift 2 containers at once.
    Well Switzer could lift 5 on a barge. lots of productivity gains yet.
    We need to tell Joyce that we need another new tunnel. Please put that into next years budget Stephen.
    Cheers.

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  14. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    Perhaps nasska and his side show will point out the errors in the report ross has helpfully cited.

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  15. Nostalgia-NZ (5,205 comments) says:

    Viking2 7.49

    How’s the safety record down that way.
    I don’t mean the trains, I was wondering about any containers floating around in the waterways or broken up ships or oil damage, for example.
    How about them rattly old shitter trucks blocking up 27?
    All fine on the port bow?

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  16. nasska (11,509 comments) says:

    Mikenmild

    I presume you are referring to the part of the report which mentions improvements in productivity.

    I would suggest that if Tauranga was cheaper in that same year that the improvement came off a fairly low base. The return to the shareholders would suggest that there’s still ample room for efficiencies.

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  17. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    “point out the errors in the report”, are you brain dead? Perhaps you should point out to Maersk and Fonterra the details of your beloved report, explain to them the errors of their ways, noddy. Your report is a piece of propaganda bullshit.

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  18. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    So you think Auckland Council Investments is lying in the report? Why would it do that?

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  19. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    Socialism just gets funnier and funnier….

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  20. Disco (1 comment) says:

    mikenmild – an increase on sweet fuck all = sweet fuck all

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  21. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    I’m glad you find it funny when an organisation that owns the port on behalf of Auckland ratepaters says the business is working fine while the management take a completely different line…

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  22. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    Mike,

    I wouldn’t think Auckland Council Investments has any reason to lie…POAL on the other hand does. They’ve already been caught out telling lies about wharfies’ pay which is a mere $27 per hour. POAL want to cut wharfies’ pay by 20% in the name of “flexibility”. I wonder if Tony Gibson is looking at a 20% pay cut. No, that would be leading by example.

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  23. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    Well, I can actually see why both the management and union might want to tell fibs, but I can’t understand what the incentive might be for the directors of Auckland Council Investments to lie.

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  24. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    ross,

    They’ve already been caught out telling lies about wharfies’ pay

    But they haven’t. They have, in fact, told the truth.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/79155583/Ports-of-Auckland-Fact-Sheet-Ernst-and-Young

    It is all very clear on page 2 ross.

    You can repeat ad infinitum, but reality is against you on this one.

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  25. Nostalgia-NZ (5,205 comments) says:

    milkentmild 9.29

    If everyone else was telling porkies milkenmild why couldn’t Auckland Council Investments.
    Somehow you think they’ve got no interest in the activities?
    The battle is becoming symbolic I think.
    Aucklanders shouldn’t be attacking their own port, nurturing agreement instead.
    Old Auckland was built by virtue of its wharves, the trades and battles that have make Auckland a strong economy. Being positional now about compromise is bloody stupid.
    Why pick apart a strength for no good profit?

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  26. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    The financial performance for the year to 30 June 2011 is summarised below:

    Debt levels reduced $19.1m, to $240.3m as at 30 June 2011 compared with $259.4m for
    30 June 2010

    Net finance costs were down on the previous year by $0.5m in line with a reduced debt level.

    Break bulk (non-containerised) cargo volumes were up 24% to 3.5m tonnes and container volumes up 27,015 or 3.1% to a new record high of 894,383 twenty-foot equivalent units (TEU).

    Transport of containers via rail increased by 9% during 2009/10, with rail moves now representing 15% (13% in 2009/10) of total land-side moves, and further growth is anticipated.

    The cruise handling facilities at Princes Wharf were operating near capacity during the year. The cruise business continued to go from strength to strength with 79 calls during the financial year and a record high of 97 booked for the upcoming 2011/12 season.

    After a challenging year, all time best crane rates (the measure of port productivity, the number of containers loaded per hour) were recorded over the June quarter, contributing to a great annual result, up 2.41% on the previous year.

    POAL has been delivering record dwell times (the average time a ship is in port) of less than 1.7 days which underpinned the attractiveness of the Auckland port’s location for importers.

    http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/cco/aucklandcouncilinvestments/acilannualrpt20102011.pdf

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  27. Nostalgia-NZ (5,205 comments) says:

    So what about the record times Ross?
    It’s obvious that you defend the union, are you saying they don’t want to settle?

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  28. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    I’m suprised POAL haven’t been publicly trumpeting the “all time best crane rates” achieved last year. Though I guess it might undermine their claim that productivity is lousy. The union’s claim for a modest 2.5% pay rise is almost identical to the productivity increase achhaved by wahrfies.

    DPF likes to bang on about how pay rises are only justified if there’s an increase in productivty – it thus looks like he supports a modest pay rise for the wharifes.

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  29. B A W (100 comments) says:

    How long with this go on until they have all gone to Tauranga?

    The question is how long can Tauranga cope I believe that they do not have infinite space there.

    Still just remember that we own Kiwirail and thus every container that gets shipped by rail to Tauranga brings in more money to the Government.

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  30. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    ross’ latest bleat: “They’ve already been caught out telling lies about wharfies’ pay which is a mere $27 per hour.”

    Jeez ross – which part of ‘average remuneration for the wharfies was $91,480 per annum for the full year 2011′ can’t you understand?

    Or are you just a complete sock puppet, card holding foundation member of the Penny Bright School of fiscal literacy?

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  31. Nostalgia-NZ (5,205 comments) says:

    B A W 10.48

    In the long term neither port has the capacity to cope, overall a logistic nightmare is unfolding.
    Additionally to that the Port authority wants to do a ‘land grab’ that isn’t compatible aesthetically with what many want the harbour to look like. That to me is far more disturbing than the wailing over $91,000 wages. The wage bill isn’t new, didn’t just jump to that overnight.
    I’m critical of Gibson to this point, he’s paid to work for the city.

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  32. KaneBunce (2 comments) says:

    What are they protesting now? The fact that the Port hasn’t yet put them on the Dole queue?

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  33. Gosman (324 comments) says:

    I’ve been having fun over at the Standard with pushing Matthew Hooten’s proposal to close the port down completely and release the capital tied up in the real estate of the Port. Classic 1980’s asset stripping tactices. What I love is that the lefties are forced to place the wider economic benefits of having a port over issues such as reduced conjestion and better environment.

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  34. Paulus (2,627 comments) says:

    BAC –
    when did you last look at the vast empty spaces around Ports of Tauranga ? There is as much available space and more than the whole of Ports of Auckland. And Tauranga has the right attitude.
    Yes, I am a shareholder in Ports of Tauranga, so Ports of Auckland – keep trying.

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  35. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    Here’s an easy one for LAC:

    How much is the hourly minimum wage and how much does a 50c increase represent per week?

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  36. Gosman (324 comments) says:

    What is interesting is that if the entire container port was shut down and the operations moved away from Auckland there could be a number of flow on effects for the country. Industry might just move closer to the more efficient ports, which in the case of Northport, just happen to be economically deprived areas of the country. Auckland would lose the industry it is true but this has environmental impacts in terms of conjestion on the transport networks and in the factories themselves. It could also retool itself as being primarily a service sector provider for industry which tends to have higher rates of income. That is assuming a scenario where manufacturing businesses leave Auckland. There is nothing to suggest they would necessarily do so.

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  37. Gosman (324 comments) says:

    Hey Ross. Do you think 1.3% return on equity is acceptable?

    Would you accept 1.3% return on a Term Deposit investment?

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  38. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    Gosman, did you read the annual report of Auckland Council Investments which said POAL had a “great year” and experienced “all time best crane rates”? Did you read where debt had fallen $19.1 million, or 7.4%? And debt financing had also fallen?

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  39. Gosman (324 comments) says:

    You are avoiding the question I posed you Ross. Do you think 1.3% return on equity is acceptable?

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  40. Gosman (324 comments) says:

    Let me put it another was for you.

    If I told you that the return from an investment was 10.3 million dollars I am sure you would probably think this is great.

    However if I told you that your total equity in the business was 1 Billion dollars and that if you invested the money somewhere else you could get 30 million dollars what would you do?

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  41. Mark (1,488 comments) says:

    This is a battle essentially about paying a fair days pay for a fair days work. Paying someone for 43 hours and getting 27 hours of work is not sustainable especially when the main competition has a far more productive agreement with its staff. Ultimatley the union may well kill the golden goose and this will not be a fight about wages and conditions but a fight over redundancy and relocation.

    What is fascinating in this fight is that the dockworkers at Tauranga and other ports are not supporting the Auckland workers with their own action. They are just making sure that their ports get the work done as efficiently as they can to lure Aucklands main customers away. Seems like a pretty smart way of securing your job for the longer term

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  42. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    “Here’s an easy one for LAC:” blah blah blah… and “50 cent increase per week”… and more blah blah blah…

    50 cents per week????? Haha – this really proves that you’ve been reading the POA Annual Report with the other fiscal illiterate Penny Bright. Were you both ‘educated’ by UNITE? They seem to have a problem with numbers too – especially calculating PAYE payments. In fact, you are proof that urgent action is required with our (lack of) standards re math and literacy. Although it won’t do you any good, we really need to bring on National Standards, eh?

    So here’s an even easier one for ross:

    When will you concede that the average remuneration for the wharfies for the 2011 year was $91,480 and that the Ports of Auckland representative was correct / Cactus Kate was correct / Whale was correct / DPF was correct / the POAL auditors were correct / everyone else is correct and that you were talking crap?

    But do keep up your propaganda on behalf of the militant Maritime Union. Before you know it, the jobs will all be gone and the labour contracted out. Problem will be gone too. :D

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  43. simo (150 comments) says:

    The Western Leader was carrying a fold-out passenger in their local paper that arrived last night. It was some bile from the port workers about how good they are at pay negoitation and conciliation. I think Claire Kenny needs a call, her number is 09 837 0340 email edwl@snl.co.nz. Fairfax have pinned their colours to the mast, so its open season

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  44. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    Gosman

    However if I told you that your total equity in the business was 1 Billion dollars and that if you invested the money somewhere else you could get 30 million dollars what would you do?

    Easy, add compliance costs and unnecessary expenses to that “somewhere else” so it returns only $3 and then claim 10.3 million is a great return.

    You’re not a socialist are you ??? – If you were you would just know that it’s all about union membership numbers and profit is evil.

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  45. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    ross

    Do you actually believe the garbage you spout or are you a paid up card carrying union member with such a sense of entitlement that you can’t think for yourself ?

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