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He’s proposing that dividends be taxed as ordinary income rather than 15% in 2013 – *If* Obama is still president and he has majorities in the house and senate. And Romney will find this policy very hard to attack because it would look like self interest if he does.
Amazing – and I imagine the vitriol from the GW freaks will start very very soon. Given the latest NASA findings that shows the earth has not warmed now for 10 years, where to from here for the alarmist morons?
LoL, always makes me laugh how willing deniers are to believe any scrap of unsubstantiated rubbish that emerges in spite of the solid evidence to the contrary.
Bild is a Tabloid with ‘titties on page 3′. But I guess that makes it a world authority to some:
I wonder if this means that there is now no prospect at all of an All Black, high-profile businessmen or other ego-inflated person getting name suppression. Replace “junior practitioner” with “club player”; “cleaner” or “sickness beneficiary” and then tried to rationalise some of the orders that have been made in recent times.
“In a High Court ruling rejecting Hart’s bid for name suppression last year, Justice Toogood said Hart’s claim of having a high-profile did not help his cause.
”He is not entitled to be treated any differently, on that account, from a junior practitioner who has no public profile.” “
“Body Blow To German Global Warming Movement! Major Media Outlets Unload On “CO2 Lies!”
By P Gosselin on 6. February 2012
Page 2 story in Bild today! The first of a series.
“THE CO2 LIES … pure fear-mongering … should we blindly trust the experts?”
That’s what Germany’s leading daily Bild (see photo) wrote in its print and online editions today, on the very day that renowned publisher Hoffmann & Campe officially released a skeptic book – one written by a prominent socialist and environmental figure.
This is huge. More than I ever could have possibly imagined. And more is coming in the days ahead! The Bild piece was just the first of a series.
Mark this as the date that Germany’s global warming movement took a massive body blow.
Today, not one, but two of Germany’s most widely read news media published comprehensive skeptical climate science articles in their print and online editions, coinciding with the release of a major climate skeptical book, Die kalte Sonne (The Cold Sun).
Germany has now plunged into raucus discord on the heated topic of climate change
What has set it all off? One of the fathers of Germany’s modern green movement, Professor Dr. Fritz Vahrenholt, a social democrat and green activist, decided to author a climate science skeptical book together with geologist/paleontologist Dr. Sebastian Lüning. Vahrenholt’s skepticism started when he was asked to review an IPCC report on renewable energy. He found hundreds of errors. When he pointed them out, IPCC officials simply brushed them aside. Stunned, he asked himself, “Is this the way they approached the climate assessment reports?”
Vahrenholt decided to do some digging. His colleague Dr. Lüning also gave him a copy of Andrew Montford’s The Hockey Stick Illusion. He was horrified by the sloppiness and deception he found. Persuaded by Hoffmann & Campe, he and Lüning decided to write the book. Die kalte Sonne cites 800 sources and has over 80 charts and figures. It examines and summarizes the latest science.
Conclusion: climate catastrophe is called off
The science was hyped. The book started hitting the bookshops today and has already hit no. 1 on the Amazon.de list for environment books. Indications show that it will climb very high in the overall bestseller charts. It’s published by a renowned publishing house and is now sending shock waves through the German climate science establishment. The first printing will produce 20,000 copies. I expect they will sell out rather quickly.
Today Germany’s national tabloid Bild (which has a whopping circulation of 16 million) devoted half of page 2 on an article called:
THE CO2 LIE
Renowned team of scientists claim the climate catastrophe is fear-mongering by politics“
The widely read Bild will follow with the rest of the series in the days ahead. In part I today Bild presents “What the IPCC of the UN doesn’t tell you.” Bild asks “what if the IPCC is wrong? Can we really blindly trust these experts? Are they really independent?”
Bild then writes:
The phenomenal prognoses of heat from the IPCC are pure fear-mongering.”
The Bild series is sure to cause radical environmentalists to seethe and lash out. Expect an all-out assault in the days and weeks ahead. Already the reaction from activists has been swift and virulent – though they have yet to read the book.
They never wanted the debate – and now the dam has broken
And the floods of skepticism are sweeping over the country. Worse, Germany’s flagship weekly news magazine Der Spiegel today also featured a 4-page exclusive interview with Vahrenholt, where he repeated that the IPCC has ignored a large part of climate science and that IPCC scientists exaggerated the impact of CO2 on climate. Vahrenholt said that by extending the known natural cycles of the past into the future, and taking CO2′s real impact into effect, we should expect a few tenths of a degree of cooling.
At a press conference today in Berlin, Vahrenholt, Lüning and publisher Hoffmann & Campe introduced the book and answered reporters’ questions. When asked why Hoffmann & Campe decided to publish “such a book”, the spokesman simply answered that the time is right – and there’s a real audience for the book. Even the weather timing was right! Germany is now experiencing it’s worst cold snap in 26 years. That makes it hard to deny lack of warming.
It needs to be pointed out Vahrenholt and Lüning are not skeptics; they are lukewarmers who have not been able to find any evidence of a coming climate catastrophe. They believe that man should switch to renewables, but do so in a rational manner: “Work fast, but don’t hurry …..”
But one assumes that Chrissie the Wussie believes that he/she knows better
Bild is a Tabloid with ‘titties on page 3′. But I guess that makes it a world authority to some:
You miss the point. The point is the believers are losing the popular vote. Once the people are no longer scared by the story, they’re unlikely to pay for it, are they?
Why am I surprised Scott – playing the man not the ball yet again. It matters not a jot that it was Bild, could have been Murdochs Sun, they are merely highlighting the findings of a Green Socialist. Even they are now realising the charade cannot be continued.
By all means lets go clean energy, but we dont need the incessant wailing and sky is falling shit. Battle over, and soon the war. Youve lost.
@ Richard29 – why should he? If you want to further pillory the person in question, start your own blog and put in the time and effort that DPF does for unappreciative dicks like yourself.
Given the latest NASA findings that shows the earth has not warmed now for 10 years, where to from here for the alarmist morons?
I guess scientists and NASA will continue to monitor climate and look for more indicators of what is happening and why.
Why is this one NASA report supposedly the gospel when others that don’t fit the preachings of one side or the other are dissed?
If this particular report is accurate (and many others aren’t) the earth has generally been in a warming trend since the Little Ice Age it has never been a linear increase. A potential decade or more long pause should hardly be a surprise. It’s quite feasible a minor cooling cycle is holding the trend level for a while, once that cycle is over the warming trend could continue. Or not.
Richard29 It is the third time Garrett – ACT’s former law and order spokesman who championed the three strikes law – has been convicted of breaking the law.
He has a previous conviction for assault in Tonga in 2002 and was discharged without conviction three years later for stealing the identity of a dead child to obtain a passport.
OK, three offences, but apparently not three convictions.
Of course, there is always the distinct possibility that Richard29 is simply a troll with no intention of contributing to the debate and who gets his jollyies by making sarcastic comments. He and Ross may well be related.
Same old Scott Chris, attacking the messenger. He’s not interested in views being expressed in the book – which he will never bother to read by the way (in translation, of course). He’s comfortable in his closed mind.
SC is quite entitled to believe what he wants, it’s a free world. But don’t let us be fooled that he’s ever prepared to engage in debate. He knows it all.
Oh goody
Two sides on the GW debate each with their own religious beliefs hammering out that black is white; now for the FUCKING 10,000th time.
This is getting old guys!
Police are quoted as “Mr McGurk said police were pleased to have a high level of support from locals but he urged people not to place themselves at risk.”
My opinion is that if we have a society full of people who are not prepared to do this, it would be a pretty crappy society. People should be urged to help, or at least not discouraged/given an excuse not to help. Little shitmongers like those involved in this case do not deserve to be left alone to do their crimes.
All I’m saying is that DPF runs a political blog. He posts umpteen times a day on a range of political topics. He’s dedicated many many posts to the likes of Phillip Field and that that ginger guy from Labour (can’t remember the name at the moment) including multiple posts after they had left parliament.
This is a guy who was justice spokesperson for the governments coalition partner and drove the implementation of a three strikes law and he has now been in front of the courts on his third criminal charge (as people have said above it’s his second conviction). There is a certain hypocrisy in that.
I’m not interested in punishing Garrett – he has plead guilty and is taking the punishment the courts have ordered for him.
All I am saying is that if this were a Labour Green or NZ first MP it is inconceivable that DPF would not post on it. The reason I think this is notable is that this blog generally makes a pretence of balance (and in some respects succeeds in that) but in this case he is almost certain to remain silent.
True little boy when you attempt to take over a piece of New Zealand or use armed force to further your tribe the New Zealand government is going to jump on you.
Fair for New Zealand or fair for your tribe New Zealands law is for all not just Tuhoe
The attempt to construct a paramilitary force along tribal lines in the burnt penis was well known. I was told about it prior to the raids by the partner of a lady in one of the heralds photos.
The Tuhoe all know what was going on.
The protest are of the level of the gentleman convected of ACC fraud recently cry victimization to cover up illegal activity
“An analysis of the crash showed Skinner had opened his driver’s door as he reversed.
The door became entangled with a shelving unit forcing the car to slide sideways and hit another parked car in the garage.
When Skinner tried to regain control of his car he was partially ejected sideways from the driver’s seat and that side of the car collided with the garage entrance wall, she said.
The technician became trapped and was crushed between the garage wall and his car, the coroner’s report said.
Johnson found the primary cause of Skinner’s fatal crush injuries was him not wearing a seatbelt.
If he had been wearing a seatbelt it was highly likely he would not have been ejected from the car, therefore not been trapped and crushed when the car crashed, the coroner said.”
It’s great the Police are finally getting the chance to ‘have their say’ by presenting their evidence for the Urewera accusation. They have been bound by silence, so that idiots like Minto have had the stage to make all sorts of erroneous falsehoods and accusation against the Police and others without the ability to put their side.
If the Police case was a debacle, that will come out; but I suspect not. There was something very smelly in Urewera Denmark. This will be quite an eye opener for NZ; and we should not treat it lightly or as irrelevant, after the actions of one militarised disaffectionte in Norway.
And is anyone says “colonial oppression” I will puke.
Your obsession is showing. You need to get a life.
Face facts: the governments of the world have delayed any concerted action on climate change for a decade or more. The delay is not because of any questions about the science, it’s about political will and our democracies have now shown the ultimate flaw in what was purported to be the ultimate system of government.
The flaw? It’s the elections, stupid!.
You should be marshalling your forces towards getting the government to drop our pathetic ETS scheme – the Aussies are going to can theirs next year, or earlier, when Abbott becomes PM – and this will be a very good thing for the climate eventually because when the shit really does start to hit the fan governments won’t have Cap and Trade/ETS to hide behind – everyone will know it’s too late for that!
But I will tell you now, the price we may pay will be a power grab by extreme right-wing authoritarians, funded by the 0.01%, justified by TINA, the whore for every purpose (as Greeks are finding out).
Unless the revolution arrives.
Now, where is my trusty Lee Enfield 303? I vaguely remember loaning it to a Maori mate. I wonder if I can get it back?
Funny how they all jump out of the wood work to attack the Alarmists when they get sick of the debate
Next time jump on those with the original post like
Peter (659) Says:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Global warming scam going cold in Germany
First post on GD today!
PS the titties are on page one under the fold
I like titties
Yeah whatever Luc. To be honest I just post this stuff for shits and giggles. I’m happy just knowing that carbon prices are on the floor and there’s no chance of multi-trillion dollar carbon exchanges getting any traction.
I have nothing to personally complain about, I’m happy with the way this whole AGW thing is fizzling out, but I still like arguing.
And really, what’s the difference between a power grab by extreme right wing authoritarians and a power grab by extreme left wing authoritarians?
Lance (1,144) Says:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Oh goody
Two sides on the GW debate each with their own religious beliefs hammering out that black is white; now for the FUCKING 10,000th time.
This is getting old guys!
But to cool things down we could make this the last post on how the earth is rapidly heating due to lazy extravagant people driving around in gas guzzlers and wimps using their heat pumps too much both summer and winter – it doesn’t take much more effort than pushing a button to put a jesrey on or take it off you know.
There’s no point in getting into a tiz about who’s behind the conspiracy to fund anyone who’s willing to stick their heads in the sand as they rattle out nays on their keyboards while conglomerate multinational companies suppress highly efficient new energy technologies so they can spin out their oil profits for as long as possible.
So let’s just agree to disagree and leave it at that.
AGW is not fizzling out. In fact, it’s fizzing along unabated and believe it or not, I don’t even think the skeptics have much to do with the inaction. It’s all politics, especially as regards the National Interest of the US.
Now then, I’ve been looking for a comment about those scumbag Syrian rebels hiding in civilian areas and bringing said civilians under fire from the legitimate government attempting merely to restore order and prevent armed insurrection.
No?
How about dissing the risible high dudgeon of the Israeli government when adversaries engage in the time honoured game of tit for tat, after said government makes a point of happily bragging about its own terrorist successes?
Did I hear William Hague expressing how he was “shocked and appalled” at the murder of Iranian civilian nuclear scientists?
Changing the subject ,I see that the Herald have taken Misery Misa back on on Monday.
I thought they had more balls but no.
And Tuesday, that failed one time UK Labour MP is pontificating again.
Gaw’d spare us from their misery.
Wonder what constitutes the ‘common man’? What Pol Pot decided? What the Labour Party of NZ decides? An income range? A level of wealth?
What’s the definition?
“And it seems to me that devoting some time and effort to encouraging those we know who are super rich to invest in perhaps even establishing a new satellite TV channel – it’s not an expensive thing and then get a few Jo Novas and Andrew Bolts to go on and do the commentating every day but keep the news straight, fair and balanced, as they do on Fox, that would break through and give to Australia, as it has for America, a proper dose of free market thinking”…
“The mining industry in Australia already wields incredible power, made obvious following the success of campaigns to water down the resource tax and carbon price, so we’re fighting to protect our media and stay this growing influence. We’re concerned about what’s motivating this buy-up of Australian media and what the mining industry might expect in return for their investment. With mining bosses in charge, how much frank and fearless investigation will our journalist be allowed to pursue?”
A media outlet funded by a lefty, consisting of articles by lefties. From a lefty point of view, not a problem. But if a righty funds a media outlet with articles by righties then that’s a no-no?
I say let media outlets be funded by whoever has the money, be written by whoever the owners choose to hire, and let the readers decide if they want to read it.
Right now www is not media for the masses.
Owning print and tv media has no comparison in self published.org
They are talking about purchasing and controlling media with as great an impact in New Zealand as sky
Control of the sheep
“The lefties start out with the common man’s interests at heart but they usually become corrupted.”
More correctly, the left starts out with the conceit that they know what is best for everyone else, to the extent that they actually have a moral duty to strip us of our freedoms and coercively force us to comply with their “enlightened” ideals.
The right, by contrast, will allow everyone to pursue their own happiness according to their own lights; where or not we happen to agree with them.
That’s a lefty talking right there. It’s this contempt for everyone else which implies to the lefty that we are all so stupid that he must take away our freedoms for our own good and tell us what to do.
Griff – controlling the media? You’ve created a straw man yourself.
Think about this – does the existence of Fox News count as controlling the media? Nobody has to watch it.
Does the existence of TV3 count as controlling the media? Nobody has to watch it.
Does the existence of Radio NZ count as controlling the media? Nobody has to listen to it.
“Mark Lynas, a campaigner who has been a member of action groups on GM foods and climate change, said the environmental lobby was losing the battle for public opinion on climate change because it had made too many apocalyptic prophecies and exaggerated claims.”
Huh they are buying into existing media with the explicit intention of directly manipulating public opinion
I have no problem with capitalism
Capitalism if controlled not by the market but public opinion and propaganda only benefits those in control
Its no longer capitalism its a Oligarchy – Rule by a small group of people who share similar interests
The super rich whose major interest is getting richer
Ok right now its totally ok to allow the super rich to control MSM to their benefit That is going to encourage the freedom of the press and enable a well informed population to act for the benefit of the …..0.000,000,01%.
USA politics is bad enough from a distance now the fuckers are trying to export it world wide.
Regan or G W Bush leading the free world?
Personally I would not trust either with feeding the goldfish.
PS still waiting for the geeks are the super rich argument.
It’s totally ok to allow anyone to operate a media outlet in countries like Australia, Griff, regardless of how much money they have and what their message is. As long as they follow the rules, what’s the problem? That people might prefer to listen to what they have to say?
Actually I am not arguing with you I am just using you to put out something that is quite interesting hope fully a few read and considered my original post
The right as defined by the views of The small minority of super rich?
I repeat I have no problem with capitalism
Capitalism if controlled not by the market but public opinion and propaganda only benefits those in control
Its no longer capitalism its a Oligarchy.
ps Any way I really think that once a topic has gone around in circles a couple of times it is time to clear the pages of GD on this for a while
RightNow says:- “7 years on kiwiblog that they’ll suck dick for money”
Yup. It comes down to a couple of things really. Honesty and objectivity. You can never be objective about anything if you can’t overcome your social conditioning. But that concept appears to be beyond your mental capacity.
Also I know you’re a fucking hypocrite. You’d have your price.
Frieden [Luxembourg Finance Minister], who yesterday also met with U.S. Treasury Department officials, called on the IMF’s largest shareholder to help strengthen the institution and make it part of a firewall to quell the European debt crisis.
I rather liked ZeroHedge’s take on this:
Translation: Hey America, we’ve done all we can, now it’s your turn to sustain the Ponzi. Because if we go, you go.
Why do the morons on either side of the global warming/climate change argument want
to beat themselves to death trying to argue the hind leg off a donkey,
or, how many faries can sit on the head of a pin ?
These drongs must know that they will never convince the other side.
Perhaps Scott Chris could give us some insight into what he gets out of it for instance ?
I must admit that I’ve participated in more than a few of those arguments over the years – but really people, the (AGFC) Anthropogenic Global Financial Crisis, is where the discussion is now.
In fact, in one respect, I’m quite thankful to all the left-wing social-welfare systems and Euro-capitalism that has led to this point. Were we still fat and happy money-wise, the insanity of “addressing” AGW would still be raging away.
Does any one here have an idea as to what percentage of the potential working force of New Zealand
is employed by government, local bodies, and on social welfare ?
Then we could compare it to Greece.
That is a figure that may give some true insight into where we do actually stand.
plebe
now i know i’m thick but,
isn’t it the size of, and the entitlements owed, to the, ‘public service’ that is the main thing fucking the European
countries that are going down the shithole before your very eyes.
Didn’t you pick that up plebe ?
Now if that is incorrect, you will be able to tell me where i got that wrong. Right plebe.
Go for it.
With expenditures of just over 40% of GDP in 2008, New Zealand is one of the smaller governments in the OECD area.
cf
Consistent budget deficits over the past decade culminated in an unprecedented budget deficit of 15.4% of GDP in 2009 when expenditures rose to over 53% …of GDP.
It does make one wonder what all the fuss is about when we already have tightly controlled government spending. I’ve no objection to continued vigilance but out’s a bit silly getting sucked into the Key/English propaganda when their much vaunted welfare reforms, for example, will affect only a few hundreds of beneficiaries – the ones least able to fight back of course, and mainly women, but, hey, victimisation is fun!
Maori doubtful of Key’s leadership
KATE CHAPMAN
Last updated 16:24 14/02/2012
Most Maori don’t think Prime Minister John Key provides good leadership on Maori issues and they’re not sure about Labour leader David Shearer, a new poll shows.
The Te Karere DigiPoll out today questioned 1000 Maori voters in January.
Of those, 70 per cent said Key did not provide good leadership on Maori issues, 17 per cent said he did, and 13 per cent did not know.
Of course they didn’t ask us white Mfo’s what we think of his leadership oun our issues.
In 2006 (Why is the data so old?) government employed 9.8% of the labour force (down slightly from 2000, despite the national propaganda going into the 2009 election) when the OECD average was 15%.
Greece was only 7.9% at that time, and was on a program me to reduce even that.
And the New Zealand government then contracted out 50% of its functions, compared to the OECD average of 43%.
it’s amazing how stats can interfere with the most well-intentioned, albeit misinformed, perceptions, isn’t it?
Been following this ‘trainwreck in slow-motion’ for several months now. I think the ‘PIGS’ will go down, the only question is when.
Greece defaulting will trigger another crisis, it will be like dominos falling down. The ‘Northern Euros’ trying to salvage the ‘PIGS’ will trigger a lot of resentment and I don’t think it will make a difference anyway.
“AGW? I must admit that I’ve participated in more than a few of those arguments over the years – but really people, the (AGFC) Anthropogenic Global Financial Crisis, is where the discussion is now.”
AGW is part of the AGFC debate. ‘Green’ policies (Crony capitalism) has done a lot of damage. Spain has almost bankrupted itself with their focus on renewables and Britain is on its way (Crazy windmill scheme), showing (yet) no sign of stopping. Obama’s ongoing anti coal\oil and gas policies and his billions of dollars of loans for failing ‘Green Energy’ companies (His campaign contributors) are damaging the US economy.
usually i’ts against my better judgement to knock my head into a brick wall Luc.
but as your mate plebe is not up to fuck all, try this.
i think you missed the point.
Government spending is not the issue. What it spends on is.
One factor that is an issue is the level of non productive persons who work in the ever expanding beauracracy
( see Helen Clarks administration )
who produce nothing of tangible value and who the real workers have to support now and more importantly in the future.
And,,, those workers can never hope to aspire to the benefits that will be paid to those drones.( take Bill Englishs’ brother
for example)
It will just get worser and worser if nothing is done till your sprogs will need to pay so much tax to
support those drones that the whole pack of cards comes down.
Scott Chris (3,664) Says:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Instigators of AGW debates in the last 7 days. All skeptics:
Peter (659) Says:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:08 am
fatnuts (147) Says:
February 13th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Viking2 (6,126) Says: ……………………..(who whinged today about AGW arguments…Slater’s pet troll maybe?)
February 12th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Fuck you are incompetent dumb arse Scott. Don’t know Cameron and not always in agreement with him but at least he is consistently on the right side and not mired in left wing maniacal dogma like you.
I hoped the AGFC would focus world leaders on real issues.
But look at how disappointing they are.Britain insists on ring fencing foreign aid while destroying it’s military At a time they are at war and the rewened threat of it from the Argie Dagos. India has even said it doesn’t want British aid and the UK response is please please we want to bankrupt our selves by giving you money we don’t have.
The German “conservatives” are shutting down their nuclear stations and making themselves depend even more on imported energy.
Of more relevence to me is the fact that Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and Citigroup are all in the top 6 of Obama’s biggest contributors. You might be interested to see what each one spends lobbying congress (amongst other interesting stats):
Goddamn, you nearly had me fooled that you were interested in facts instead of the old bog-standard penis envy Kiwibloggers have of everyday public servants.
The support for Obama from Wallstreet is old news, everybody knows that.
Executives and others connected with Wall Street firms, such as Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Citigroup, UBS AG, JPMorgan Chase, and Morgan Stanley, poured nearly $15.8 million into his coffers.
Goldman Sachs contributed slightly over $1 million to Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, compared with a little over $394,600 to the 2004 Bush campaign. Citigroup gave $736,771 to Obama in 2008, compared with $320,820 to Bush in 2004. Executives and others connected with the Swiss bank UBS AG donated $539,424 to Obama’s 2008 campaign and JP Morgan Chase gave Obama’s campaign $808,799 in 2008.
Fannie and Freddie became big contributors to the Democratic Party. The sub-prime business paid off-at least while the bubble was growing. And the Kerry, Hillary and Obama campaigns have numbered among the leading recipients of the largess of the two mortgage lenders
The stimulus money (Trillions of dollars) also went to companies that supported and funded Obama’s campaign.
Tesla received a loan rate of 1.6% from DOE to manufacture an all-electric car. It is owned and financed by big donors to the Democratic Party and to Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign. Tesla’s principal owner is Elon Musk, the founder of PayPal.
Elon Musk has been a generous donor to the Democratic National Committee, contributing more than $120,000 over three different election cycles and $292,250 to political campaigns, overwhelmingly to Democrats.
Another Obama $500,000 bundler was Solyndra investor George Kaiser and his foundation.
A company called Amyris Biotechnologies received a $24 million DOE grant to build a pilot plant to use altered yeast to turn sugar into hydrocarbons. The investors included several Obama bundlers and fundraisers. With federal money in hand, Amyris went public with an IPO the following year, raising $85 million. Kleiner Perkins, a firm that boasts Obama financier John Doerr and former vice president Al Gore as partners, found its $16 million investment was now worth $69 million.
There are lots of others.
We’ve all read those cutie-pie rhymes inside Valentine’s Day cards.
Here’s a few that “Hallmark” missed:
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Valentines is a load of consumerist bullshit
now haven’t you got some ironing to do?
Roses are orange
Violets are green
This is the best acid
I’ve ever seen
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Your sister said no
How about you?
Roses are Red
Violets are fine
I’ll be the six,
If you be the nine
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
The sinks in the kitchen,
So why aren’t you?
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
I’m using my hand,
But I’m thinking of you.
Roses are awful,
Violets are the pits,
Lift up your shirt,
And show us your tits.
Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet, and so are you.
But the roses are wilting, the violets are dead, the sugar bowl’s empty and so
is your head.
What inspired this amorous rhyme?
Two parts vodka, one part lime.
So China has rooted the ipads in China. Ha get the FBI onto it. They will get it sorted. What a laugh.
Authorities seize Apple’s iPads in China after trademark dispute
Authorities seize Apple’s iPads in China after trademark dispute
Joe McDonald
February 14, 2012 – 7:59AM
ipad
Apple’s iPad. Photo: Tomohiro Ohsumi
BEIJING – Authorities have seized Apple iPads from retailers in a city in northern China due to a dispute with a domestic company that says it owns the iPad name, an official said Monday.
The Chinese company said it is asking for similar action in more than 20 other cities.
Indeed. But that’s the result of what the leftists set up decades ago; wonderful social welfare systems that are “third rails”. No touching – until they crash.
“House Republican leaders said Monday they would introduce a bill extending the payroll-tax break for the rest of the year without finding spending cuts to offset the program’s cost. The proposal marks a major shift for Republicans, who previously had insisted that the costs of extending a trio of provisions expiring at the end of the month be offset with spending cuts.”
As the article suggests, why stop there:
Will Republicans grasp that the paradox of defeating Obama is precisely in giving him a carte blanche on all the stimulus programs he wants?
Because if Congress approves another $200, 300 or even $400 billion in stimulus pork (the only thing better than one Solyndra? One thousand Solyndras!) the Treasury will drown in the need to raise hundreds of billions more, and will in fact hit the ceiling well in advance of the elections.
As for the stimulus projects themselves, they will crash and burn just like all centrally planned endeavors, and actually result in a far worse outcome than if they had never been attempted. [Because] the best way to finally get back to a fiscally prudent regime? Why go to town, of course.”
Give them what they want – and huge tax increases on the 1% too. So the left will be walking around wondering how the huge gusher of money turned into a thin trickle as everyone from Warren Buffet to Matt Damon run screaming for their Cayman Island accountants – but it will be worth it to watch the anguished screams of pain. Why get blamed for the failures when you can get the left-wing to burn down their very own institutions, using the methods they wanted. Of course one of the commentators makes a sober point:
this is a great plan by the WSJ!!!
It’s like letting your kids burn the house down to show them how foolish it is to play with matches. It’s all about being able to say “I told you so” when you are shivering under the overpass.
To this point, I didn’t consider bereal being in the outhouse with Lou
but I have no objections to the idea.
I do hope however, that they avoid the obvious
cliche and don’t sing ‘Lou, Lou, skip to the Lou my darling’ upon entry.
Where ever entry might be.
How to say “I Love You” in ten different languages:
English: I Love You
Spanish: Te Amo
French: Je T’aime
German: Ich Liebe Dich
Japanese: Ai Shite Imasu
Italian: Ti Amo
Chinese: Wo Ai Ni
Swedish: Jag Alskar Dig
Lithuanian: As Tave Meliu
New Zealand: Nice Tits! Get in the ute!
February 14th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Global warming scam going cold in Germany
http://notrickszone.com/2012/02/06/body-blow-to-german-global-warming-movement-major-media-outlets-unload-on-co2-lies/
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:15 am
Obama Has Romney By The Balls:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/14/us/politics/obama-budget-raises-taxes-on-the-rich-to-spend-on-jobs.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&src=igw
He’s proposing that dividends be taxed as ordinary income rather than 15% in 2013 – *If* Obama is still president and he has majorities in the house and senate. And Romney will find this policy very hard to attack because it would look like self interest if he does.
Ha! American politics. Always entertaining.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:20 am
@Peter…
Amazing – and I imagine the vitriol from the GW freaks will start very very soon. Given the latest NASA findings that shows the earth has not warmed now for 10 years, where to from here for the alarmist morons?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:28 am
A very big “if”. The Messiah is likely to lose both, the Senate and the House of Representatives, in November this year.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:30 am
LoL, always makes me laugh how willing deniers are to believe any scrap of unsubstantiated rubbish that emerges in spite of the solid evidence to the contrary.
Bild is a Tabloid with ‘titties on page 3′. But I guess that makes it a world authority to some:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:31 am
@Peter
Vote:And now that they have a really “cold”: snap, all those “nasty” nuclear powerplants are coming back on line.
February 14th, 2012 at 8:35 am
@ Scott Chris
I bet NASA don’t have titties on page 3 of their reports.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:37 am
I wonder if this means that there is now no prospect at all of an All Black, high-profile businessmen or other ego-inflated person getting name suppression. Replace “junior practitioner” with “club player”; “cleaner” or “sickness beneficiary” and then tried to rationalise some of the orders that have been made in recent times.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6412090/Lawyer-Barry-Hart-faces-misconduct-charges
“In a High Court ruling rejecting Hart’s bid for name suppression last year, Justice Toogood said Hart’s claim of having a high-profile did not help his cause.
”He is not entitled to be treated any differently, on that account, from a junior practitioner who has no public profile.” “
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:38 am
German common sense (at last!):
“Body Blow To German Global Warming Movement! Major Media Outlets Unload On “CO2 Lies!”
By P Gosselin on 6. February 2012
Page 2 story in Bild today! The first of a series.
“THE CO2 LIES … pure fear-mongering … should we blindly trust the experts?”
That’s what Germany’s leading daily Bild (see photo) wrote in its print and online editions today, on the very day that renowned publisher Hoffmann & Campe officially released a skeptic book – one written by a prominent socialist and environmental figure.
This is huge. More than I ever could have possibly imagined. And more is coming in the days ahead! The Bild piece was just the first of a series.
Mark this as the date that Germany’s global warming movement took a massive body blow.
Today, not one, but two of Germany’s most widely read news media published comprehensive skeptical climate science articles in their print and online editions, coinciding with the release of a major climate skeptical book, Die kalte Sonne (The Cold Sun).
Germany has now plunged into raucus discord on the heated topic of climate change
What has set it all off? One of the fathers of Germany’s modern green movement, Professor Dr. Fritz Vahrenholt, a social democrat and green activist, decided to author a climate science skeptical book together with geologist/paleontologist Dr. Sebastian Lüning. Vahrenholt’s skepticism started when he was asked to review an IPCC report on renewable energy. He found hundreds of errors. When he pointed them out, IPCC officials simply brushed them aside. Stunned, he asked himself, “Is this the way they approached the climate assessment reports?”
Vahrenholt decided to do some digging. His colleague Dr. Lüning also gave him a copy of Andrew Montford’s The Hockey Stick Illusion. He was horrified by the sloppiness and deception he found. Persuaded by Hoffmann & Campe, he and Lüning decided to write the book. Die kalte Sonne cites 800 sources and has over 80 charts and figures. It examines and summarizes the latest science.
Conclusion: climate catastrophe is called off
The science was hyped. The book started hitting the bookshops today and has already hit no. 1 on the Amazon.de list for environment books. Indications show that it will climb very high in the overall bestseller charts. It’s published by a renowned publishing house and is now sending shock waves through the German climate science establishment. The first printing will produce 20,000 copies. I expect they will sell out rather quickly.
Today Germany’s national tabloid Bild (which has a whopping circulation of 16 million) devoted half of page 2 on an article called:
THE CO2 LIE
Renowned team of scientists claim the climate catastrophe is fear-mongering by politics“
The widely read Bild will follow with the rest of the series in the days ahead. In part I today Bild presents “What the IPCC of the UN doesn’t tell you.” Bild asks “what if the IPCC is wrong? Can we really blindly trust these experts? Are they really independent?”
Bild then writes:
The phenomenal prognoses of heat from the IPCC are pure fear-mongering.”
The Bild series is sure to cause radical environmentalists to seethe and lash out. Expect an all-out assault in the days and weeks ahead. Already the reaction from activists has been swift and virulent – though they have yet to read the book.
They never wanted the debate – and now the dam has broken
And the floods of skepticism are sweeping over the country. Worse, Germany’s flagship weekly news magazine Der Spiegel today also featured a 4-page exclusive interview with Vahrenholt, where he repeated that the IPCC has ignored a large part of climate science and that IPCC scientists exaggerated the impact of CO2 on climate. Vahrenholt said that by extending the known natural cycles of the past into the future, and taking CO2′s real impact into effect, we should expect a few tenths of a degree of cooling.
At a press conference today in Berlin, Vahrenholt, Lüning and publisher Hoffmann & Campe introduced the book and answered reporters’ questions. When asked why Hoffmann & Campe decided to publish “such a book”, the spokesman simply answered that the time is right – and there’s a real audience for the book. Even the weather timing was right! Germany is now experiencing it’s worst cold snap in 26 years. That makes it hard to deny lack of warming.
It needs to be pointed out Vahrenholt and Lüning are not skeptics; they are lukewarmers who have not been able to find any evidence of a coming climate catastrophe. They believe that man should switch to renewables, but do so in a rational manner: “Work fast, but don’t hurry …..”
But one assumes that Chrissie the Wussie believes that he/she knows better
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:41 am
NASA has zero G titties.
Kiwiblog just has this zero brain tit Fail Scott the Faithful Believer. No evidence needed.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:43 am
What’s the betting that DPF elects not to comment on this particular news item…
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10785310
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:44 am
You miss the point. The point is the believers are losing the popular vote. Once the people are no longer scared by the story, they’re unlikely to pay for it, are they?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Why am I surprised Scott – playing the man not the ball yet again. It matters not a jot that it was Bild, could have been Murdochs Sun, they are merely highlighting the findings of a Green Socialist. Even they are now realising the charade cannot be continued.
By all means lets go clean energy, but we dont need the incessant wailing and sky is falling shit. Battle over, and soon the war. Youve lost.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:56 am
@ Richard29 – why should he? If you want to further pillory the person in question, start your own blog and put in the time and effort that DPF does for unappreciative dicks like yourself.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:03 am
I guess scientists and NASA will continue to monitor climate and look for more indicators of what is happening and why.
Why is this one NASA report supposedly the gospel when others that don’t fit the preachings of one side or the other are dissed?
If this particular report is accurate (and many others aren’t) the earth has generally been in a warming trend since the Little Ice Age it has never been a linear increase. A potential decade or more long pause should hardly be a surprise. It’s quite feasible a minor cooling cycle is holding the trend level for a while, once that cycle is over the warming trend could continue. Or not.
FHM
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
That’s a bit harsh KS; I have nothing against David G but it is noteworthy.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:05 am
Or Richard29 could actually raise the issue here directly and express his own opinion rather than expect DPF to do everything for him.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
NZHerald counting fail
I’d count that as one.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Great another Global warming GD hijack.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Richard29
It is the third time Garrett – ACT’s former law and order spokesman who championed the three strikes law – has been convicted of breaking the law.
He has a previous conviction for assault in Tonga in 2002 and was discharged without conviction three years later for stealing the identity of a dead child to obtain a passport.
OK, three offences, but apparently not three convictions.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:16 am
Of course, there is always the distinct possibility that Richard29 is simply a troll with no intention of contributing to the debate and who gets his jollyies by making sarcastic comments. He and Ross may well be related.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Come on Scott, you denigrate ‘unsubstantiated rubbish’ then link to wikipedia? Really?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:20 am
jollies, dammit. Edit system is too unforgiving
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Same old Scott Chris, attacking the messenger. He’s not interested in views being expressed in the book – which he will never bother to read by the way (in translation, of course). He’s comfortable in his closed mind.
SC is quite entitled to believe what he wants, it’s a free world. But don’t let us be fooled that he’s ever prepared to engage in debate. He knows it all.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Oh goody
Vote:Two sides on the GW debate each with their own religious beliefs hammering out that black is white; now for the FUCKING 10,000th time.
This is getting old guys!
February 14th, 2012 at 9:34 am
Quite so Nookin (9.16am); hence my less-than-Valentine’s-Day sentiment in my response!
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Don’t knock it. Probably accounts for half kiwiblogs traffic.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:35 am
To get away from Global bloody Warming for a minute-
Vote:A touching Valentines Day story ….
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/6413484/Murder-trial-over-2003-honeymoon-diving-death
February 14th, 2012 at 9:37 am
You got a lady and you want her gone…
Vote:But you ain’t got the guts…
She keeps nagging at you night and day…
Enough to drive you nuts….
February 14th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Richard29, you should form a group with Robert Guyton.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 9:38 am
Put March 14th in your wife’s calendar now.
Vote:http://www.steakandbjday.com/
February 14th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Neighbours of a matamata shop chase robbers who end up being caught. See article:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10785407
Police are quoted as “Mr McGurk said police were pleased to have a high level of support from locals but he urged people not to place themselves at risk.”
My opinion is that if we have a society full of people who are not prepared to do this, it would be a pretty crappy society. People should be urged to help, or at least not discouraged/given an excuse not to help. Little shitmongers like those involved in this case do not deserve to be left alone to do their crimes.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 10:18 am
Richard 29…..That was a rather underhand and vindictive article notable for the fact that the reporter or author was not named.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 10:30 am
adze is correct.
All I’m saying is that DPF runs a political blog. He posts umpteen times a day on a range of political topics. He’s dedicated many many posts to the likes of Phillip Field and that that ginger guy from Labour (can’t remember the name at the moment) including multiple posts after they had left parliament.
This is a guy who was justice spokesperson for the governments coalition partner and drove the implementation of a three strikes law and he has now been in front of the courts on his third criminal charge (as people have said above it’s his second conviction). There is a certain hypocrisy in that.
I’m not interested in punishing Garrett – he has plead guilty and is taking the punishment the courts have ordered for him.
All I am saying is that if this were a Labour Green or NZ first MP it is inconceivable that DPF would not post on it. The reason I think this is notable is that this blog generally makes a pretence of balance (and in some respects succeeds in that) but in this case he is almost certain to remain silent.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 10:34 am
dick, he’s not an MP.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 10:41 am
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6412125/Tuhoe-show-support-for-Urewera-four
Tame Iti said he was ready to ”debate the issues”.
He likened the case against the group to colonial oppression of Tuhoe in the 1860s and said he did not know if he would get a fair trial.
True little boy when you attempt to take over a piece of New Zealand or use armed force to further your tribe the New Zealand government is going to jump on you.
Fair for New Zealand or fair for your tribe New Zealands law is for all not just Tuhoe
The attempt to construct a paramilitary force along tribal lines in the burnt penis was well known. I was told about it prior to the raids by the partner of a lady in one of the heralds photos.
The Tuhoe all know what was going on.
The protest are of the level of the gentleman convected of ACC fraud recently cry victimization to cover up illegal activity
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Man dies in freak accident reversing out of his garage. Not wearing a seatbelt blamed as primary cause. I would have thought opening his door while driving was the primary cause:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6414034/Freak-tragic-garage-accident-killed-man
“An analysis of the crash showed Skinner had opened his driver’s door as he reversed.
The door became entangled with a shelving unit forcing the car to slide sideways and hit another parked car in the garage.
When Skinner tried to regain control of his car he was partially ejected sideways from the driver’s seat and that side of the car collided with the garage entrance wall, she said.
The technician became trapped and was crushed between the garage wall and his car, the coroner’s report said.
Johnson found the primary cause of Skinner’s fatal crush injuries was him not wearing a seatbelt.
If he had been wearing a seatbelt it was highly likely he would not have been ejected from the car, therefore not been trapped and crushed when the car crashed, the coroner said.”
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 11:05 am
IPCC, take a bow!
Vote:http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2012/02/ipcc-take-a-bow
February 14th, 2012 at 11:10 am
Double down with taxpayer’s money: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/13/obama-hikes-subsidy-to-wealthy-electric-car-buyers/
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 11:14 am
In related news Manolo, University of Tennessee Researchers Find China’s Pollution Related to E-Cars May Be More Harmful than Gasoline Cars’
Vote:http://www.utk.edu/tntoday/2012/02/13/researchers-find-ecar-emissions-harmful/
February 14th, 2012 at 11:16 am
RighgtNow (and Coroner)
The Transport Regulations providng for the wearing of seat belts make specific exception (belt not required) when reversing.
Wonder if the coroner ALWAYS wears her seat belt when reversing ! Silly.
But what else can be expected in 2012.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 11:49 am
It’s great the Police are finally getting the chance to ‘have their say’ by presenting their evidence for the Urewera accusation. They have been bound by silence, so that idiots like Minto have had the stage to make all sorts of erroneous falsehoods and accusation against the Police and others without the ability to put their side.
If the Police case was a debacle, that will come out; but I suspect not. There was something very smelly in Urewera Denmark. This will be quite an eye opener for NZ; and we should not treat it lightly or as irrelevant, after the actions of one militarised disaffectionte in Norway.
And is anyone says “colonial oppression” I will puke.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Good posts Richard 29.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
With Bild at least the tits are where they belong ,on page 3(if that is the case}
In the alarmist left wing papers the tits are all in the board room making up the lying editorial policy.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:01 pm
RN
Your obsession is showing. You need to get a life.
Face facts: the governments of the world have delayed any concerted action on climate change for a decade or more. The delay is not because of any questions about the science, it’s about political will and our democracies have now shown the ultimate flaw in what was purported to be the ultimate system of government.
The flaw? It’s the elections, stupid!.
You should be marshalling your forces towards getting the government to drop our pathetic ETS scheme – the Aussies are going to can theirs next year, or earlier, when Abbott becomes PM – and this will be a very good thing for the climate eventually because when the shit really does start to hit the fan governments won’t have Cap and Trade/ETS to hide behind – everyone will know it’s too late for that!
But I will tell you now, the price we may pay will be a power grab by extreme right-wing authoritarians, funded by the 0.01%, justified by TINA, the whore for every purpose (as Greeks are finding out).
Unless the revolution arrives.
Now, where is my trusty Lee Enfield 303? I vaguely remember loaning it to a Maori mate. I wonder if I can get it back?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Funny how they all jump out of the wood work to attack the Alarmists when they get sick of the debate
Next time jump on those with the original post like
Peter (659) Says:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:08 am
Global warming scam going cold in Germany
First post on GD today!
PS the titties are on page one under the fold
Vote:I like titties
February 14th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Yeah whatever Luc. To be honest I just post this stuff for shits and giggles. I’m happy just knowing that carbon prices are on the floor and there’s no chance of multi-trillion dollar carbon exchanges getting any traction.
I have nothing to personally complain about, I’m happy with the way this whole AGW thing is fizzling out, but I still like arguing.
And really, what’s the difference between a power grab by extreme right wing authoritarians and a power grab by extreme left wing authoritarians?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
If you strive for armed revolution in a democracy, democracy is obviously not what you hope to achieve.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Griff, here’s three things I like: Frank Zappa, Titties and Beer
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Duncan Garner demands some answers. Generally his blog asks some reasonable questions. Come clean on the public service cuts Mr Key
But…
Duncan could look around the company he works for and ask who does most of the work on overnight broadcasts, for example.
I wonder how many robot MPs would be proportional enough?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Lance (1,144) Says:
February 14th, 2012 at 9:33 am
Oh goody
Two sides on the GW debate each with their own religious beliefs hammering out that black is white; now for the FUCKING 10,000th time.
This is getting old guys!
or rather
Vote:This is getting COLD guys.
February 14th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Rightnow
http://sciblogs.co.nz/hot-topic/2012/02/07/doonesbury-on-denial/
funny huh
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
Griff, Viking2 was funnier: “This is getting COLD guys.”
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Yes one point to v2
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
V2 – sounds more heated to me.
But to cool things down we could make this the last post on how the earth is rapidly heating due to lazy extravagant people driving around in gas guzzlers and wimps using their heat pumps too much both summer and winter – it doesn’t take much more effort than pushing a button to put a jesrey on or take it off you know.
There’s no point in getting into a tiz about who’s behind the conspiracy to fund anyone who’s willing to stick their heads in the sand as they rattle out nays on their keyboards while conglomerate multinational companies suppress highly efficient new energy technologies so they can spin out their oil profits for as long as possible.
So let’s just agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RN
Left wing never has any money!
AGW is not fizzling out. In fact, it’s fizzing along unabated and believe it or not, I don’t even think the skeptics have much to do with the inaction. It’s all politics, especially as regards the National Interest of the US.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RightNow says:- “what’s the difference between a power grab by extreme right wing authoritarians and a power grab by extreme left wing authoritarians”
The lefties start out with the common man’s interests at heart but they usually become corrupted.
The righties start out with their own interests at heart, and remain faithful to that aim.
At least righties are morally consistent I suppose.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Now then, I’ve been looking for a comment about those scumbag Syrian rebels hiding in civilian areas and bringing said civilians under fire from the legitimate government attempting merely to restore order and prevent armed insurrection.
No?
How about dissing the risible high dudgeon of the Israeli government when adversaries engage in the time honoured game of tit for tat, after said government makes a point of happily bragging about its own terrorist successes?
Did I hear William Hague expressing how he was “shocked and appalled” at the murder of Iranian civilian nuclear scientists?
No?
I guess I need re-education…
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Always the deniers who restart the AGW debate…
Don’t deny it!
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Changing the subject ,I see that the Herald have taken Misery Misa back on on Monday.
Vote:I thought they had more balls but no.
And Tuesday, that failed one time UK Labour MP is pontificating again.
Gaw’d spare us from their misery.
February 14th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
$1bn for new IRD system.
So how does a small country spend that much on a new system for collecting taxes?
What is the ROI on $1bn?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Wonder what constitutes the ‘common man’? What Pol Pot decided? What the Labour Party of NZ decides? An income range? A level of wealth?
Vote:What’s the definition?
February 14th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2012/feb/08/fox-news-lord-monckton-australia
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3821618.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERFYxys71gE
http://www.readfearn.com/
“And it seems to me that devoting some time and effort to encouraging those we know who are super rich to invest in perhaps even establishing a new satellite TV channel – it’s not an expensive thing and then get a few Jo Novas and Andrew Bolts to go on and do the commentating every day but keep the news straight, fair and balanced, as they do on Fox, that would break through and give to Australia, as it has for America, a proper dose of free market thinking”…
“The mining industry in Australia already wields incredible power, made obvious following the success of campaigns to water down the resource tax and carbon price, so we’re fighting to protect our media and stay this growing influence. We’re concerned about what’s motivating this buy-up of Australian media and what the mining industry might expect in return for their investment. With mining bosses in charge, how much frank and fearless investigation will our journalist be allowed to pursue?”
Ignore AGW
These links are interesting
ON A LIGHTER NOTE
Vote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2011/oct/21/lord-monckton-sacha-baron-cohen
February 14th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Griff – I wonder what then to make of Graeme Wood funding The Global Mail http://www.theglobalmail.org/
A media outlet funded by a lefty, consisting of articles by lefties. From a lefty point of view, not a problem. But if a righty funds a media outlet with articles by righties then that’s a no-no?
I say let media outlets be funded by whoever has the money, be written by whoever the owners choose to hire, and let the readers decide if they want to read it.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Luc, the US have spent 30bn on AGW ‘research’. And it is fizzling out, but the ‘researchers’ will go down kicking and screaming..
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 1:25 pm
STRAW MAN
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
TIN MAN
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Right now www is not media for the masses.
Vote:Owning print and tv media has no comparison in self published.org
They are talking about purchasing and controlling media with as great an impact in New Zealand as sky
Control of the sheep
February 14th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
“The lefties start out with the common man’s interests at heart but they usually become corrupted.”
More correctly, the left starts out with the conceit that they know what is best for everyone else, to the extent that they actually have a moral duty to strip us of our freedoms and coercively force us to comply with their “enlightened” ideals.
The right, by contrast, will allow everyone to pursue their own happiness according to their own lights; where or not we happen to agree with them.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
“Control of the sheep”
That’s a lefty talking right there. It’s this contempt for everyone else which implies to the lefty that we are all so stupid that he must take away our freedoms for our own good and tell us what to do.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Griff – controlling the media? You’ve created a straw man yourself.
Think about this – does the existence of Fox News count as controlling the media? Nobody has to watch it.
Does the existence of TV3 count as controlling the media? Nobody has to watch it.
Does the existence of Radio NZ count as controlling the media? Nobody has to listen to it.
Ownership is not the same as readership.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
wat dabney
Funny that I am “right wing capitalist liberal” then
Left Right, Capitalist Communist, Liberal Conservative.
http://www.psywarrior.com/Goebbels.html
14. Propaganda must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
“Mark Lynas, a campaigner who has been a member of action groups on GM foods and climate change, said the environmental lobby was losing the battle for public opinion on climate change because it had made too many apocalyptic prophecies and exaggerated claims.”
Gee, whodathunkit? It’s like labelling events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans.
Vote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/8098812/Leading-environmental-campaigners-support-nuclear-and-GM.html
February 14th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
“Nobody has to watch it.”
Huh they are buying into existing media with the explicit intention of directly manipulating public opinion
Vote:I have no problem with capitalism
Capitalism if controlled not by the market but public opinion and propaganda only benefits those in control
Its no longer capitalism its a Oligarchy – Rule by a small group of people who share similar interests
The super rich whose major interest is getting richer
February 14th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Monty Python was right!
An important message for Griff, Scott et al.
Loud and clear at 0.35-0.39…..
The rest is very educational as well.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
GM foods and climate change apocalyptic prophecies and exaggerated claims
Vote:No need to swear Its just a touch poetic though
February 14th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Griff- you’re arguing against fair competition.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
In fact, I think you’re arguing against freedom of speech.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_law
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
You don’t like what they’ve got to say, but you’ll still defend their right to say it won’t you Griff?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Ok right now its totally ok to allow the super rich to control MSM to their benefit That is going to encourage the freedom of the press and enable a well informed population to act for the benefit of the …..0.000,000,01%.
USA politics is bad enough from a distance now the fuckers are trying to export it world wide.
Regan or G W Bush leading the free world?
Personally I would not trust either with feeding the goldfish.
PS still waiting for the geeks are the super rich argument.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
It’s totally ok to allow anyone to operate a media outlet in countries like Australia, Griff, regardless of how much money they have and what their message is. As long as they follow the rules, what’s the problem? That people might prefer to listen to what they have to say?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
Actually I am not arguing with you I am just using you to put out something that is quite interesting hope fully a few read and considered my original post
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/02/general_debate_14_february_2012.html#comment-932961
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
It’s not that new Griff, Andrew Bolt has been highlighting the hypocrisy of the left on this subject for quite a while.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/
Latest post … “ABC takes money to turn children into warmists”
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 3:26 pm
Left Right Polarization again?
The right as defined by the views of The small minority of super rich?
I repeat I have no problem with capitalism
Capitalism if controlled not by the market but public opinion and propaganda only benefits those in control
Its no longer capitalism its a Oligarchy.
ps Any way I really think that once a topic has gone around in circles a couple of times it is time to clear the pages of GD on this for a while
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Instigators of AGW debates in the last 7 days. All skeptics:
Peter (659) Says:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:08 am
fatnuts (147) Says:
February 13th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Viking2 (6,126) Says: ……………………..(who whinged today about AGW arguments…Slater’s pet troll maybe?)
February 12th, 2012 at 10:39 am
hj (2,012) Says:
February 11th, 2012 at 10:07 am
RightNow (3,936) Says:
February 10th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
hj (2,012) Says:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:58 am
RightNow (3,937) Says:
Vote:February 8th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
February 14th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Announcements in the last 7 years on kiwiblog that they’ll suck dick for money -
Scott Chris
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
PPS
Vote:Interesting investment strategy
If a significant stake is being sort in media it should drive up demand?
February 14th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Sonny Bill’s next opponent? The Secret Diary Of … Sonny Bill Williams
You need to read right to the end.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
True colours revealed at last.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/6410912/Lawyer-Barry-Hart-loses-name-supression
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Key feeling unloved? How ungrateful!
Vote:http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8419044/john-key-brushes-off-maori-poll
February 14th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Here is another one.
Earning millions legitiimately, but when those greed glands start pumping…………
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/6416776/Auckland-real-estate-agent-fined-suspended
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Course, after Marnie pays the huge $15,000 penalty, you can bet she laughed and danced all the way
to the bank.
Watch for Barry Hart to be smacked real hard with the old wet bus ticket.
Was it Gordon Gecko who said, ‘Greed is good.’
The little people come last.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
RightNow says:- “7 years on kiwiblog that they’ll suck dick for money”
Yup. It comes down to a couple of things really. Honesty and objectivity. You can never be objective about anything if you can’t overcome your social conditioning. But that concept appears to be beyond your mental capacity.
Also I know you’re a fucking hypocrite. You’d have your price.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
For those who like watching bonfires:
Austria, France, Italy ….
Oh – and United Kingdom: outlook on Aaa rating changed to negative
When you’re already at Aaa and still going negative it’s not encouraging.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Feeble projection attempt scotty. I’m faithful to my wife.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
i forget who it was that gave that very sage advice to all the poor people,
“Get rich.”
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
And there goes that prince of principle Scott Chris again.
Calling someone a ‘fucking hypocrite’
Jeez.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
“I’m faithful to my wife”
You still don’t get it do you? It doesn’t mean anything. You’d only be betraying your wife if it did mean something.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Hey Scott,
and you do get it ?
Only in your mind.
Vote:Jeez mate, pathetic.
February 14th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Ah – I missed the earlier headline:
I rather liked ZeroHedge’s take on this:
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Why do the morons on either side of the global warming/climate change argument want
to beat themselves to death trying to argue the hind leg off a donkey,
or, how many faries can sit on the head of a pin ?
These drongs must know that they will never convince the other side.
Perhaps Scott Chris could give us some insight into what he gets out of it for instance ?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
AGW?
I must admit that I’ve participated in more than a few of those arguments over the years – but really people, the (AGFC) Anthropogenic Global Financial Crisis, is where the discussion is now.
In fact, in one respect, I’m quite thankful to all the left-wing social-welfare systems and Euro-capitalism that has led to this point. Were we still fat and happy money-wise, the insanity of “addressing” AGW would still be raging away.
Go Greece!
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Now your talking tom hunter.
Does any one here have an idea as to what percentage of the potential working force of New Zealand
is employed by government, local bodies, and on social welfare ?
Then we could compare it to Greece.
That is a figure that may give some true insight into where we do actually stand.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
I love the way john boy key is killing the public service , it means we will now have a highly educated dole bludger to abuse on kiwi blog
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
little boy and his playmates did not look to happy on tv1
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
plebe
now i know i’m thick but,
isn’t it the size of, and the entitlements owed, to the, ‘public service’ that is the main thing fucking the European
countries that are going down the shithole before your very eyes.
Didn’t you pick that up plebe ?
Now if that is incorrect, you will be able to tell me where i got that wrong. Right plebe.
Vote:Go for it.
February 14th, 2012 at 6:32 pm
2008 OECD figures and comments, bereal.
cf
It does make one wonder what all the fuss is about when we already have tightly controlled government spending. I’ve no objection to continued vigilance but out’s a bit silly getting sucked into the Key/English propaganda when their much vaunted welfare reforms, for example, will affect only a few hundreds of beneficiaries – the ones least able to fight back of course, and mainly women, but, hey, victimisation is fun!
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
bereal, I’ll think you will find it is the social spending that has racked up deficits rather than the size of the public service, per se.
And NZ is well below the OECD average on that score, too.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
More on the Baltic Dry and why you should be looking at it.
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/why-is-global-shipping-slowing-down-so-dramatically
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Maori doubtful of Key’s leadership
KATE CHAPMAN
Last updated 16:24 14/02/2012
Most Maori don’t think Prime Minister John Key provides good leadership on Maori issues and they’re not sure about Labour leader David Shearer, a new poll shows.
The Te Karere DigiPoll out today questioned 1000 Maori voters in January.
Of those, 70 per cent said Key did not provide good leadership on Maori issues, 17 per cent said he did, and 13 per cent did not know.
Of course they didn’t ask us white Mfo’s what we think of his leadership oun our issues.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
In 2006 (Why is the data so old?) government employed 9.8% of the labour force (down slightly from 2000, despite the national propaganda going into the 2009 election) when the OECD average was 15%.
Greece was only 7.9% at that time, and was on a program me to reduce even that.
And the New Zealand government then contracted out 50% of its functions, compared to the OECD average of 43%.
it’s amazing how stats can interfere with the most well-intentioned, albeit misinformed, perceptions, isn’t it?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
V2
I wasn’t aware that JK shows good leadership on any issue!
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
@Tom
Been following this ‘trainwreck in slow-motion’ for several months now. I think the ‘PIGS’ will go down, the only question is when.
Greece defaulting will trigger another crisis, it will be like dominos falling down. The ‘Northern Euros’ trying to salvage the ‘PIGS’ will trigger a lot of resentment and I don’t think it will make a difference anyway.
“AGW? I must admit that I’ve participated in more than a few of those arguments over the years – but really people, the (AGFC) Anthropogenic Global Financial Crisis, is where the discussion is now.”
AGW is part of the AGFC debate. ‘Green’ policies (Crony capitalism) has done a lot of damage. Spain has almost bankrupted itself with their focus on renewables and Britain is on its way (Crazy windmill scheme), showing (yet) no sign of stopping. Obama’s ongoing anti coal\oil and gas policies and his billions of dollars of loans for failing ‘Green Energy’ companies (His campaign contributors) are damaging the US economy.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
usually i’ts against my better judgement to knock my head into a brick wall Luc.
but as your mate plebe is not up to fuck all, try this.
i think you missed the point.
Government spending is not the issue. What it spends on is.
One factor that is an issue is the level of non productive persons who work in the ever expanding beauracracy
( see Helen Clarks administration )
who produce nothing of tangible value and who the real workers have to support now and more importantly in the future.
And,,, those workers can never hope to aspire to the benefits that will be paid to those drones.( take Bill Englishs’ brother
for example)
It will just get worser and worser if nothing is done till your sprogs will need to pay so much tax to
support those drones that the whole pack of cards comes down.
Kinda like is happening in Greece.
Vote:Help you Luc ?
February 14th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Scott Chris (3,664) Says:
February 14th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Instigators of AGW debates in the last 7 days. All skeptics:
Peter (659) Says:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:08 am
fatnuts (147) Says:
February 13th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Viking2 (6,126) Says: ……………………..(who whinged today about AGW arguments…Slater’s pet troll maybe?)
February 12th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Fuck you are incompetent dumb arse Scott. Don’t know Cameron and not always in agreement with him but at least he is consistently on the right side and not mired in left wing maniacal dogma like you.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Scott, you’re a believer in AGW as people from antiquity thought the Earth was flat.
Vote:The problem is you want us to pay for your myth. I’ll refuse.
February 14th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
tom hunter@537
I hoped the AGFC would focus world leaders on real issues.
But look at how disappointing they are.Britain insists on ring fencing foreign aid while destroying it’s military At a time they are at war and the rewened threat of it from the Argie Dagos. India has even said it doesn’t want British aid and the UK response is please please we want to bankrupt our selves by giving you money we don’t have.
The German “conservatives” are shutting down their nuclear stations and making themselves depend even more on imported energy.
There is nothing rational about EU “leaders”.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
One way to look at it is just to laugh.
Viking2 scored a big point in his mind @ 6.58
(almost a king hit, at least as close as V2 can go to a king hit) then……
Scott Chris will take the hit, gather himself up and come back for more.
And on and on it will go.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Other_Andy says:- “loans for failing ‘Green Energy’ companies (His campaign contributors)”
Any evidence for that assertion Andy? No doubt some did, but this is a list of his major contributors:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cid=N00009638
Of more relevence to me is the fact that Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and Citigroup are all in the top 6 of Obama’s biggest contributors. You might be interested to see what each one spends lobbying congress (amongst other interesting stats):
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000085
Vote:http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000103
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000071
February 14th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
kowtow
given, Brittania doesn’t rule the waves these days, but,
HMS Dauntless rules the south atlantic.
There is no threat from Argie Dagos.
That one ships presence trumps anything the Dagos may have.
Vote:And the Dagos know it.
February 14th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Ah, bereal..
The old moving target trick.
Goddamn, you nearly had me fooled that you were interested in facts instead of the old bog-standard penis envy Kiwibloggers have of everyday public servants.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Fuck off Luc
you just proved that you are not up to it.
Now readers can see what i meant by knocking my head on a brick wall.
Does your whole act as a nudist revolve around penis envy ?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
@SC
The support for Obama from Wallstreet is old news, everybody knows that.
Executives and others connected with Wall Street firms, such as Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Citigroup, UBS AG, JPMorgan Chase, and Morgan Stanley, poured nearly $15.8 million into his coffers.
Goldman Sachs contributed slightly over $1 million to Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, compared with a little over $394,600 to the 2004 Bush campaign. Citigroup gave $736,771 to Obama in 2008, compared with $320,820 to Bush in 2004. Executives and others connected with the Swiss bank UBS AG donated $539,424 to Obama’s 2008 campaign and JP Morgan Chase gave Obama’s campaign $808,799 in 2008.
Fannie and Freddie became big contributors to the Democratic Party. The sub-prime business paid off-at least while the bubble was growing. And the Kerry, Hillary and Obama campaigns have numbered among the leading recipients of the largess of the two mortgage lenders
The stimulus money (Trillions of dollars) also went to companies that supported and funded Obama’s campaign.
Tesla received a loan rate of 1.6% from DOE to manufacture an all-electric car. It is owned and financed by big donors to the Democratic Party and to Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign. Tesla’s principal owner is Elon Musk, the founder of PayPal.
Elon Musk has been a generous donor to the Democratic National Committee, contributing more than $120,000 over three different election cycles and $292,250 to political campaigns, overwhelmingly to Democrats.
Another Obama $500,000 bundler was Solyndra investor George Kaiser and his foundation.
A company called Amyris Biotechnologies received a $24 million DOE grant to build a pilot plant to use altered yeast to turn sugar into hydrocarbons. The investors included several Obama bundlers and fundraisers. With federal money in hand, Amyris went public with an IPO the following year, raising $85 million. Kleiner Perkins, a firm that boasts Obama financier John Doerr and former vice president Al Gore as partners, found its $16 million investment was now worth $69 million.
There are lots of others.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/obama-fundraisers-ties-green-firms-federal-cash/story?id=14592626
Read ‘Throw Them All Out’ by Peter Schweizer.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Just present some facts, bereal, instead of rabid-righter talking points.
PS
Leave those bricks alone.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
My head hurts, Luc is off to RIP.
Vote:No more shit sunshine
February 14th, 2012 at 7:46 pm
We’ve all read those cutie-pie rhymes inside Valentine’s Day cards.
Here’s a few that “Hallmark” missed:
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Valentines is a load of consumerist bullshit
now haven’t you got some ironing to do?
Roses are orange
Violets are green
This is the best acid
I’ve ever seen
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Your sister said no
How about you?
Roses are Red
Violets are fine
I’ll be the six,
If you be the nine
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
The sinks in the kitchen,
So why aren’t you?
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
I’m using my hand,
But I’m thinking of you.
Roses are awful,
Violets are the pits,
Lift up your shirt,
And show us your tits.
Roses are red, violets are blue, sugar is sweet, and so are you.
But the roses are wilting, the violets are dead, the sugar bowl’s empty and so
is your head.
What inspired this amorous rhyme?
Vote:Two parts vodka, one part lime.
February 14th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Pardon me if anyone feels the following is in
anyway romantic, but I don’t mind if they do.
Rosies are red
Vote:violets are blue
bereal should be in the shithouse
and so should you.
February 14th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
So China has rooted the ipads in China. Ha get the FBI onto it. They will get it sorted. What a laugh.
Authorities seize Apple’s iPads in China after trademark dispute
Authorities seize Apple’s iPads in China after trademark dispute
Joe McDonald
February 14, 2012 – 7:59AM
ipad
Apple’s iPad. Photo: Tomohiro Ohsumi
BEIJING – Authorities have seized Apple iPads from retailers in a city in northern China due to a dispute with a domestic company that says it owns the iPad name, an official said Monday.
The Chinese company said it is asking for similar action in more than 20 other cities.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/tablets/authorities-seize-apples-ipads-in-china-after-trademark-dispute-20120214-1t2pk.html#ixzz1mKziIEEG
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/tablets/authorities-seize-apples-ipads-in-china-after-trademark-dispute-20120214-1t2pk.html#ixzz1mKymYDNK
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Nostalgia-NZ (291) Says:
February 14th, 2012 at 8:07 pm
Pardon me if anyone feels the following is in
anyway romantic, but I don’t mind if they do.
Rosies are red
violets are blue
bereal should be in the shithouse
and so should you.
Nostalgia that’s not nice. I’m sure what you really meant was
Vote:Rosies are red
violets are blue
bereal should be in the shithouse
and so should Lou.
February 14th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Reid
You like the Mikey mouse?
catch this one just before the pope on the video
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/who-was-worst-dressed-at-the-grammys-and-baftas/story-fn9076o9-1226270655034
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Indeed. But that’s the result of what the leftists set up decades ago; wonderful social welfare systems that are “third rails”. No touching – until they crash.
Actually I see that at least one source has decided to go for my crash-the-system approach:
As the article suggests, why stop there:
Give them what they want – and huge tax increases on the 1% too. So the left will be walking around wondering how the huge gusher of money turned into a thin trickle as everyone from Warren Buffet to Matt Damon run screaming for their Cayman Island accountants – but it will be worth it to watch the anguished screams of pain. Why get blamed for the failures when you can get the left-wing to burn down their very own institutions, using the methods they wanted. Of course one of the commentators makes a sober point:
Okay – but lessons have to be learned.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:17 pm
Rupert Murdoch is said to be deeply touched by the messages from family and friends left on Whitney Houston’s phone.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Viking2 8.09
To this point, I didn’t consider bereal being in the outhouse with Lou
Vote:but I have no objections to the idea.
I do hope however, that they avoid the obvious
cliche and don’t sing ‘Lou, Lou, skip to the Lou my darling’ upon entry.
Where ever entry might be.
February 14th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
How to say “I Love You” in ten different languages:
Vote:English: I Love You
Spanish: Te Amo
French: Je T’aime
German: Ich Liebe Dich
Japanese: Ai Shite Imasu
Italian: Ti Amo
Chinese: Wo Ai Ni
Swedish: Jag Alskar Dig
Lithuanian: As Tave Meliu
New Zealand: Nice Tits! Get in the ute!
February 14th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
what, you mean ? entry in out house?
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 8:38 pm
We’ll need bereal to explain that,
Vote:once he leaves the nudist colony.
February 14th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
scotty, I didn’t expect you to get it.
Vote:February 14th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
some of this shit could be really hurtfull,
but i know that deep down youse mean it in a loving, caring, embracefull and celibratory kind of way.
Aroha to all.
Happy Valentines.
G’nite.
(doesn’t include any muslims.)
Vote:February 15th, 2012 at 6:29 am
It’s not the friendship, but the price: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/muslim-brotherhood-warns-us-aid-cut-may-affect-egypt-s-peace-treaty-israel
Vote:February 15th, 2012 at 6:30 am
More from the “religion of peace”: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/14/bangkok-neighbourhood-twin-blasts
Vote:February 15th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Who could trust these numbers? http://michellemalkin.com/2012/02/14/deficit-projections/
Vote: