Dom Post on Local Govt Reform
March 22nd, 2012 at 9:08 am by David FarrarThe Dom Post editorial:
Local authorities have only themselves to blame for the Government forcing them to live within their means.
During almost a decade in which rates rose at more than twice the level of inflation and the debt owed by New Zealand’s 78 local bodies grew fourfold, councils have shown a disturbing lack of appreciation of the circumstances faced by their communities.
Ratepayers are not a bottomless pit.
It will give control of council staff numbers and salaries to councillors, rather than chief executives, and require annual reports to include the number of staff in $10,000 salary bands, as state agencies do now.
That move follows the huge increase in council wage bills after changes to the Local Government Act in 2002, which widened the scope of local authorities.
When the changes were implemented, the total salary bill for all councils was $884 million. By 2010, it had grown to more than $1.6 billion, an increase of more than 80 per cent. In the eight years before the changes, the salary bill increased by a total of just 8.7 per cent.
That’s even faster growth than in the civil service. Labour certainly created jobs – but jobs funded by taxes and rates, rather than paying taxes and rates (in a net sense).
Tags: Dominion Post, editorials, Local Body Politics
March 22nd, 2012 at 9:19 am
If its what local ratepayers vote for, why should Wellington interfere with legislation?
Its better that ratepayers wake up to the fact that it is their political apathy that is impacting upon their wallets rather than accepting more nannying from “we know best” Wellington based bureaucrats.
Let the socialists wreck the economy. Otherwise we’ll never be rid of the bastards. Local and/or Central.
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 9:34 am
Local body politics is fertile ground for the oddball politicians who have no particular political affiliation but have some views that are off the charts in terms of how to spend other peoples money.
Reform is essential but now national have the problem that the minister that is across all of this has just been fired. Impeccable timing.
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 am
One of the major problems in local and regional government is that the elected Councillors have no real idea of what the faction groups within the employees are actually up to.
In many cases it is probable that the so called CEO who is the only employer, but he or she changes every 3/4 years and moves on.
These internal factions ensure that the employees taken on who are “known” to current employees, often related.
Vote:Try and apply for a job in local government – you can bet that the job is already filled by an exisiting employee movement, but for the sake of the greater legal picture has to be advertised.
March 22nd, 2012 at 10:34 am
Redbaiter, you are partly right. What would advance the cause more would be that everyone that lives in a area pays either rates or more for the Free and cheap services they currently get. 39% approximately of houses are rented. Those tenants don’t pay rates.
(the Landlord does it for them and cannot pass the rates onto the tenant who uses the services.)
If tenants had to pay rates or if only rate payers could vote then more accountability would result.
Another idea would be to allow ratepayers only to vote major spending such as stadiums etc.
But none of the socialists are ever going to get to grips with the nub of the issue but just add more layers of bullshit, confusion and derision. (as you know).
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 10:37 am
What gets me is the MASSIVE rise in council salaries over the last decade or so. I mean – if you look at the REAL core items of councils – local roads, water supply, sewerage, footpaths etc – ***how hard*** is it, really? Nowhere near hard enough to justify the massive EXISTING salaries, let alone raising them.
I would *love* to see a bill introduced to Parliament that halved the salaries of mayors (sorry – “chief executives”). They would still be on the pig’s back even if you did this.
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 10:39 am
A matter which does not seem to be raised is the building inspection and consent responsibility imposed on councils. In particular the ‘leaky homes’ situation has imposed a significant financial burden on councils which needs to be met by ratepayers thanks to the Appeal Court decision some years back (which predated leaky homes). There has been ‘scope creep’ into the unit titled serviced apartment / hotel room area, but fortunately attempts by the Education Ministry and business interests to hold councils accountable for leaky schools and commercial buildings have not been successful.
Perhaps local body reform should include removal of the building consents process (including liabilities) from councils and place it in Government hands with a fresh start made on the appropriate scope of inspections and whether Government should be financially liable for inspection shortcomings.
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 10:56 am
Council debt per capita
Kaipara District $4142
Taupo District $4048
Waitomo District $3939
Queenstown-Lakes District $3563
Tauranga City $2769
South Taranaki District $2755
Western Bay of Plenty District $2699
Tasman District $2451
Buller District $2,227
Hamilton City $2184
Auckland (Sum of former AK area councils) $2134
Ruapehu District $1994
Far North District $1925
Dunedin City $1920
Thames-Coromandel District $1823
Wanganui District $1812
Whangarei District $1800
Palmerston North City $1765
Rotorua District $1686
New Plymouth District $1638
Kaikoura District $1629
Kapiti Coast District $1448
Otorohanga District $1448
Wellington City $1433
Ashburton District $1311
Timaru District $1155
Nelson City $1132
South Wairarapa District $969
Horowhenua District $915
Central Hawke’s Bay District $905
Westland District $888
Porirua City $882
Matamata-Piako District $870
Gore District $869
Lower Hutt City $818
Christchurch City $816
Invercargill City $805
Masterton District $779
Whakatane District $777
Hauraki District $745
Waipa District $678
Hastings District $678
Grey District $660
Selwyn District $631
Waimate District $623
Tararua District $565
Manawatu District $495
Waimakariri District $485
Stratford District $474
Upper Hutt City $453
Gisborne District $417
Opotiki District $361
Waikato District $295
South Waikato District $240
Carterton District $216
Napier City $105
Marlborough District $42
Southland District $21
Kawerau District $3
Clutha District $1
Waitaki District $1
Wairoa District $0
Rangitikei District $0
Mackenzie District $0
Hurunui District $0
Central Otago District $0
Some local governments are frugal, while others are not. If voters want to have governments who a prudent with their money, then they have to vote them in.
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am
thor, you perfectly exemplify the stupidity of this debate. Do you actually understand the difference between the mayor and the CE? Really?
And tell me, did you watch any of the games at the RWC? If you did, consider the role Councils played in making that happen. They were begged by central governemnt to make it happen, at cost to the ratepayer.
FFS, its getting as bad as dork back fucking radio around here.
And consider for half a second – what makes Councillors experts in remuneration policy?
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 12:26 pm
If we are going to discuss salaries then we need to understand HOW we got in the poo.
A colleague with considerable local government experience in a major city recently sent me the following email:
” I have just made time to read the material from Owen [Mcshane]. A few comments from my experience, and a couple of other thoughts.
There were about three reforms that had an effect on Local Government in the 1987/92 period, that I observed.
1 Michael Bassett as Minister of Local Government changed the way that Councillors were paid, so that an honorarium changed into effectively a salary.
The change attracted what could be describes as second rate housewives to the role. People who would never have achieved the same rate of pay based on their normal employment competencies or qualifications. Previously there had been a higher proportion of people with experience of management or governance attracted to the role often with a sense of repayment to the community.
The introduction of the ward system also gradually eliminated the role of the parties in pre-selecting candidates who were competent. The ward system meant that candidates could campaign on their own without needing the support of a city wide campaign needed under the at large system.
2. The Brian Elwood led restructure in 1989 was I thought reasonably well thought out as a structure, with a clear role for Regional Councils as compared to District and City Councils. It did however lead to amalgamations which largely eliminated the County Councils with the core of competent land owners that were attracted to run them.
Generally Councils have become more city focussed and socialistic grasping at opportunities to get beyond the core health and infrastructure issues of roads water and drains. A remark from Wayne Brown when Chair of Auckland DHB. that he had probably done more for health as an engineer ensuring clean water than as a heath board member is perhaps relevant.
3. When the 1990 National Government picked up the RMA from the previous Labour Govt Simon Upton was the Minister.
I pressed Warren Cooper Minister of Local Govt ( I was [Deputy Mayor] Chair of the ******** Finance Committee at the time, so it was a effectively a City request) to ensure that it would lead to cheaper and simpler planning approval and would get rid of the anti competitive elements that riddled the old town planning act. He claimed to have had an assurance from Upton that that would be the case. In fact it did neither with cost and complexity increasing dramatically and Super markets in particular just finding more complex and expensive methods of holding up competition. All the old zones reappeared in drag and the concept of managing impacts was subverted to controlling inputs through styles books for such as ******** Street.
Any way I agree that Councillors of incompetence will never govern successfully, and even less successfully in a larger organisation.
Economies of scale may apply in an industrial production environment, but even there the Lean Thinking/Toyota Way concepts would cast doubt on that.
A Bureaucracy merely breeds more dis-economies as it gets larger and adds more controls and layers of bureaucrats. Monitoring the performance of ******s [one of Goivernment's biggest spenders of our money] for 9 years was demonstrative, in that the large ***** s had the most difficulty in balancing their books. ******s have additional layers of problems due to the blame culture in the health system and the consequent butt covering counter culture
The only monitoring of Local Government is probably the Auditor General, which is limited and technical.
The AOG is an organisation which believes that a good document ( SOI-Statement of Intent, Long Term Plan etc) will ensure good performance.
[That is simply] more bureaucratic BS. DIA holds the Local Govt portfolio, but I never heard of it doing any monitoring.
Another area of councillor questionable competence is the control of commercial units such as port companies, where professional directors can bluff and run rings around both LG bureaucrats and the elected members.
In itself a good reason for enforced selling of commercial investments and using the proceeds for settlement of Debts or in a number of cases the return of the cash to ratepayers. Auckland should think about selling its toy wharf if it wants to buy a new train set…… ”
Now, would anyone like to assure me that 2012 will not be smoke and mirrors? It would be nice to think the new (Not, GB. but NS’s successor) can deliver.
A statutory limit on Mayoral, Councillor and employees salaries/allowances to keep them LESS than elected MPs and Ministers would be a necessary start.
And please do not talk about peanuts and monkeys.
Vote:Local, like central government, extorts money from land owners and taxpayers. They are NOT commercial operations. They never have to earn their income stream.
March 22nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Oh I wish it was that simple.
Unfortunately there’s not enough talent available to run the size councils that NZ has. There’s barely enough talent to run central government.
And they want to make Councils bigger.
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
Ye gods, it’s the end of the world! I actually agreed with the first sentence of Redbaters post (@9.19am)
Vote:And then he ruined it with the usual rants about socialists.
March 22nd, 2012 at 8:46 pm
The really telling point of course bc is that no one gives a shit what you agree or disagree with.
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 8:48 pm
Interesting to see the Clutha district’s debt is so low.
Then consider that they just got the government to pay for some nice infrastructure improvements in exchange for putting in a new prison.
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Whereas Redbaiter ALWAYS creates polarised opinions whenever he posts.
Some have it and others are just wannabees!
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Still as bitter and twisted as ever I see Johnboy. How sad.
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Sorry bc old chap.
I would have responded to your bitter response earlier but as I said no one really gives a fuck what you say!
Vote:March 22nd, 2012 at 9:09 pm
And yet you did respond, so clearly you do care what I say.
Vote:I wonder if you will respond to this (I think we all know the answer to that one).