General Debate 28 March 2012

March 28th, 2012 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. southtop (257 comments) says:

    There can’t be ANY unemployment in NZ give the number of imported workers wandering around the top of the south?

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  2. Keeping Stock (9,791 comments) says:

    Another PR fiasco for MUNZ; 9500 basketball fans alienated:

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2012/03/thanks-bunch-munz.html

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  3. Scott Chris (5,682 comments) says:

    Pom gets 2 months jail for racist tweet:

    A student who admitted posting racially offensive comments on Twitter about footballer Fabrice Muamba has been jailed for 56 days.

    Presumably a tweet is considered to be a public broadcast in the UK. I disagree. Over-reaction imo. Just gives this idiot air-time. Silly Poms.

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  4. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    When a democrat (a former Clinton adviser) talks more sense like the following, then you know that if the US voters are so dumbfuck to vote for Obama again this year, the US is fucked.

    Dick Morris TV; Lunch ALERT! What Motivates Obama?

    Obama is dismantling the US economic/military power from within.

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  5. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “…An Objectivist America would be a dark age of unhindered free enterprise -

    - far more primitive and Darwinian than anything seen before…”

    (ed:..don’t forget that our prime minister john key is a rand fan-boy..

    ..as are many/most(?) in nact…

    ..once you understand this..

    ..their purpose becomes clear…

    ..new zealand is an objectivist-experiment..)

    http://whoar.co.nz/2012/the-horrors-of-an-ayn-rand-world-why-we-must-fight-for-americas-soul/

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  6. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Here is Dick Morris again on Sean Hannity about Obama.

    Obamaville

    I urge readers here to watch Dick Morris’s interview, it is very frightening for US citizens if Obama is re-elected again. Dick Morris is urging readers of his website to vote for a republican candidate for this year’s presidential election.

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  7. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    OMG

    How fuken depressing. How sad.

    This illiterate bludging drong ‘philu ‘ is back.

    The one man blog wrecker……..eh !!!!!…..??????….eh…

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  8. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Falafulu Fisi
    This is pretty much what Herr Helen Clark nearly managed to achieve here in New Zealaand .ie.

    Create a critical mass of voters who are dependant upon the state. Then they cede you everlasting power.
    She failed. Just.

    For this reason the upcomming election in USA is the most critical, possibly of all time.
    Not just for the USA but for the world.

    Did you catch obama whispering when he thought he wasn’t being recorded to (whats his name, the Russian ) “After I win the next election, then I will REALY be able to help you out,” As he stroked the Russians leg.
    The russian replied. “oh, great, I will convey the message to Vladamir”

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  9. dime (8,789 comments) says:

    maybe we should all have a type like phil day. see how many posts he can tolerate before turning a gun on himself

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  10. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    if you take off yr ideological-blinkers..obama was just stating the obvious..

    ..that after the election..he is looking forward to making great leaps to further ridding the world of nukes..please tell vlad..

    ..what’s the problem there..(please)be-real..?

    …do you know something about some gay relationship between obama and putin..?..there..(please)be-real..?

    whoar..!..eh..?..

    ..do tell..!

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  11. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    that’s easier said than done..dime..

    ..it’s all about rythmn/flow..

    ..eh..?

    ..go on..!..have a go..!..

    (hint..say it out loud..it’s conversational-writing..eh..?..

    ..the way of the future..eh..?)

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  12. Lance (2,311 comments) says:

    @Falafulu Fisi

    Do you think the US can actually afford trillions of dollars to run such a military?
    IIRC it was the fucktard bankers that ruined the economy and created this situation, maybe Obama isn’t helping with the recovery the way some would like but fair suck of the sav

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  13. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    Always figured your lips move when you type, phool. Do you run your finger along the screen as you read?

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  14. Lance (2,311 comments) says:

    I think Philu’s mindless drivel would be more coherent if his computer generated random characters instead

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  15. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Phil Ure, what Obama is doing is called scorched earth policy in regards to US national/global defense. Dick Morris explains it better.

    What’s Obama’s game in Iran? (Dick Morris)

    Phil U, aren’t you being ashamed of not working for a living? Even doing something like flipping burger at McDonald will give you (ie, your mental state) a feeling of self-worth. You use the excuse that you are looking after a teenage son who is 16 years old. That’s not an execuse since the boy can come home from school and do whatever he’s interested in doing, till you get home from McDonald at ~ 5-15 pm (ie, after your working day). Your 16 year old son, doesn’t need to be looked after or supervised at that age. I believe that you simply use that excuse because you’re unemployable even with your Masters degree.

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  16. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Missed this earlier.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10794917

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  17. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Also.

    If i was ever stupid enough to reply to some request from the likes of a philu it would
    only be to advise him,………….to fuck off……..you’re just not worth it………..in fact he is the prime example of a totally useless article.
    No use to man or beast, as they say……eh………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!………..duh……………

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  18. Lance (2,311 comments) says:

    @Falafulu Fisi

    I looked at your link. That Dick Morris chap was talking crap, sorry but it was.
    OMG the US being held accountable like the rest of the world, being sick won’t be the financial ruin of you and worst of all, gun control in a gun mad country…. oh the humanity
    Serious reds under the bed fear mongering in a fear obsessed country. The US used to be a great country where successive administrations strived to make the US better understood and responsive internationally but seriously went into decline under Nixon and has only got worse ever since.

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  19. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Lance
    You must have missed the Reagan years.

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  20. Lance (2,311 comments) says:

    Actually bereal I think you might be correct there.
    Those were my OE years, I only remember the partying with the Berlin wall coming down.

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  21. Dave Mann (1,127 comments) says:

    @ Falafulu Fisi

    Thanks for the links to Dick Morris…. and I agree with bereal that Helen Clark was on the same track here with welfare for almost the whole country.

    Given that the fuckwit we have presently running (ruining) this country is barely different to Helen Clark, I would like to ask why there is NOBODY in mainstream public life here who articulates commonsense values as well as this Dick Morris? There is almost NO cogent public debate about the welfare state here, and the same applies to the economy, foreign affairs, international aid (bribery) etc etc.

    Even though NZ isn’t in quite the hopeless mess that the US has got itself in, I would say that in some ways we are worse than them, because we hardly have any voices of reason and certainly no media which is prepared to present an alternative view to the bloodsucking socialist greenism which has gripped our society.

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  22. dime (8,789 comments) says:

    phil – youre writing style gives me a headache. its a bummer to cause id actually like to read what you have to say. i have you on a two line limit

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  23. mikenmild (8,903 comments) says:

    Seriously…Dick Morris? Is he running for office? Obama’s a shoe-in this year – just look at the likely opposition – walk-over material.

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  24. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    Anyone have gold stashed away? Yes, well you might want to read of this: Tungsten Filled 1 kilo Gold Bar Discovered in UK. Check out the photo. Ouch.

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  25. nasska (9,556 comments) says:

    krazykiwi

    This could have devalued the contents of your sock drawer somewhat.

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  26. mikenmild (8,903 comments) says:

    Interesting column from Gordon Campbell, not usually the most hawkish commenter, on the Huawei business:
    http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2012/03/28/gordon-campbell-on-the-chinese-cyber-security-threat/

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  27. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Mallard vs Collins
    Question 4 today
    Could be a good one.
    Who would you bet on ?

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  28. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Maybe some light may be thrown as to who leaked the Bronwyn Pullar email details.

    My enquiries have eliminated the two Chinese usual suspects, Sumcunt and his offsider, Wun Hung Lo.

    Maybe Mallard has the goods.

    Maybe it was the lovely Bronwyns well connected ‘support person’

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  29. Fletch (5,727 comments) says:

    @ Falafulu Fisi

    It will also be worth checking out the movie 2016 when it comes out, based on Dinesh D’Souza’s book, ‘The Roots Of Obama’s Rage’, where he postulates that the dreams of Obama are those of the anti-colonialist father – hence the title of Obama’s book, ‘Dreams From My Father’, not Dreams of my father.

    Site & trailer: http://2016themovie.com/

    So basically, D’Souza is saying that Obama wants to redistribute America’s wealth worldwide.

    Traditional liberals, D’Souza explained, only want to redistribute wealth within America. Obama, he says, wants to redistribute America’s power among smaller nations throughout the world.
    Why? D’Souza explained that Obama is literally trying to fulfill the title of his book, “Dreams from My Father.” Obama’s father, who was Kenyan, viewed the world from an anti-Colonial perspective. Molen says Obama now wants to use his power as the American president to rid the world of colonialism … starting with downsizing the very power of the U.S.A.
    D’Souza explained the premise further:

    What is this anti-colonialism? It is, in fact, the most powerful ideology in Asia, in Africa, in South America, in the past 100 years. If you want to know why there’s anti-Americanism around the world, it’s not just because of Islamic radicalism – that would help to explain it in the Middle East. It’s anti-colonialism.
    The anti-colonial ideology very simply says that the world is divided into the oppressors and the oppressed. There is the West, now led by America. Then there are the poor people led by Asia, Africa, and South America. The anti-colonial ideology is that the rich countries got rich by invading, occupying, and looting the poor countries. The ideology says that to fight against all of this, you have to put a leash on the rogue elephant that is America. It also says that there are concentrations of economic power: The banks, the insurance companies, the oil companies – this is the economic wing of colonialism. And what you have to do to fight this is to use the power of the state to control it.

    The movie is being made by the producer of Schindler’s List and other big budget films.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/03/21/oscar-winning-producer-vets-obama-2016

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  30. Peter (1,471 comments) says:

    Phil U Translation Service:

    “If you take off your ideological-blinkers, Obama was just stating the obvious – that after the election, he is looking forward to making great leaps to further ridding the world of nukes. Please tell vlad. What’s the problem there? Do you know something about some gay relationship between Obama and Putin? Do tell!”

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  31. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Peter
    and a translation of Obamas whisper.

    “After the election, then i will scrap our defence initiative and further unilateraly dissarm in the hope
    that youse may follow suit.
    Now I know that you didn’t last time, but this time I am trusting youse to be good jokers.
    Bye the way, who told you that I was a poofter you little cutie ? “

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  32. Fletch (5,727 comments) says:

    More ‘birther’ stuff…

    Looks like Obama’s Selective Service card could have been forged as well?

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  33. mikenmild (8,903 comments) says:

    I’m confused. Is Obama a secret Muslim in league with terrorists or a secret communist with a gay thing for Vladimir?

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  34. KevinH (1,129 comments) says:

    What President Obama really meant to say to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev was don’t crack open the vodka until the fat lady sings ie the November elections, because ironically President Obama is negotiating with a former cold war enemy to join the US designed and financed International Missile Defence System.

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  35. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    i’m waiting for the obama-is-robot-theory to surface..

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  36. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    shock fact from yesterdays’ questionetime..

    ..maori in new zealand have a higher number imprisoned than do african americans in america…

    ..the other one was $90 million to be spent on new wiri prison…and only a few million spent each year on education/rehabilitation/addiction-treatment..

    ..two sides of the same wrong-coin..

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  37. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    How’s your rehabilitation and addiction treatment going there, phool? Kicked the weed and got a job yet?

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  38. RightNow (6,350 comments) says:

    Is the tripling of the US monetary base in the last 5 years something to be worried about?
    http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BASE

    And why are banks shorting gold and silver?
    http://www.cftc.gov/dea/bank/deaMar12f.htm

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  39. labours a joke (442 comments) says:

    Phils a cook in his spare time PIA..havent ya heard ?

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  40. Fletch (5,727 comments) says:

    Steven Crowder visits Detroit, the ‘poster boy’ city for leftist policies and government entitlement handouts and programmes (eg, the Model Cities programme). This now desolate city is what you’re left with when you rely on government dependence and unions (teachers union and auto workers union). It’s not pretty, and very sad. As Crowder says, America could end up looking like this if the policies of the current administration are all implemented.

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  41. dime (8,789 comments) says:

    labours a joke – thats not cool. most people get demerits for what youre insinuating.

    philu – were you expecting maori to offend less than african americans?? does it really matter?

    agree we dont spend enough on rehabilitation

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  42. labours a joke (442 comments) says:

    Take it how you like dime but your presumption is incorrect.

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  43. dime (8,789 comments) says:

    it is? so out of no where you thought youd mention phil likes to cook? what style? how would you know?

    its just such a weak thing to say. its been said 100 times. whats the point??

    i know youre an angry man and most of the time you crack me up, you can do better than “phil likes to cook” though

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  44. labours a joke (442 comments) says:

    Well if you go to his website dime ( you’ll be viewer no. 6 ) you will find the most repulsive vegetarian recipes. He obviously likes to dabble with cabbages , mung beans , artichoke hearts et al…and whats with the angry man remark? I’ll take you outside and…

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  45. kowtow (6,730 comments) says:

    Ain’t the so called “Arab Spring” a wonderful thing?

    Indigenous Christians are an endangered species in the Islamist world.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/03/ethnic-cleansing-of-christians-in-syria-50000-flee.html

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  46. EverlastingFire (290 comments) says:

    A man who will stop at nothing to bludge off the hard working: http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8442601/man-cuts-off-foot-in-bid-to-avoid-work

    The guy’s last name is ‘Url’, but could perhaps almost as easily be read as ‘Ure’ :D

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  47. dime (8,789 comments) says:

    you go to his website? lol

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  48. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    Phool’s probably been wondering where the spike in traffic came from.

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  49. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    “maori in new zealand have a higher number imprisoned than do african americans in america”

    There is an easy solution to this, for both groups. Stop committing the most crimes.

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  50. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    As usual, phool’s claims are nonsense. There are 827,000 blacks in prison in the US. There is nowhere near that number of maoris in jail. Maybe he means percentage instead of number.

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  51. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Hey dime,
    most of the time what you post here has some merit.

    But. When you go to bat for a drong like philu after you have stated that you yourself limit his
    posts to two lines.
    Well, that doesn’t make much sense.

    Philu has already self declared that he is drug addled.
    So how has. ‘ labours a joke’ got it wrong ?
    Why then do you love philu ?
    Is he your son ?
    C’mon, spit it out mate.

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  52. labours a joke (442 comments) says:

    “you go to his website? lol”

    just for shits and giggles. Its like going into the twlight zone. I must secretly admit , I take my hat off to the guy for establishing the site. I wouldnt know where to start.
    But it pisses me off how he can choose not to work, and bludge off the rest of us…you know the rest…

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  53. Put it away (2,888 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t say he’s going in to bat for phool, more like appealing for a better class of abuse against him.

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  54. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Bye the way.
    Just out of morbid interest.
    Your old mate John Tanner ?

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  55. Other_Andy (2,079 comments) says:

    Global Warming Models Are Wrong Again
    The observed response of the climate to more CO2 is not in good agreement with predictions.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304636404577291352882984274.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

    Just a professor of physics at Princeton, obviously not one of those learned ‘climatologists’ and part of the famous 97% consensus group. Probably paid by ‘big oil’ or secretly funded by Heartland. Obviously not ‘peer reviewed’ by Greenpeace or other activists and therefor untrustworthy.

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  56. mikenmild (8,903 comments) says:

    Just a professor at Princeton, who urged the American Physics Association to change its position on climate change – it refused to do so. Professor Happer should consider publishing a scientific paper that backs up his views, which are a bit wide of the current scientific consensus around climate change.

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  57. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Hey mikenmild
    maybe we should let this subject drop for a while.
    It’s a no win. your side play a card… i trump it….in fact, i blow it to smithereens
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2120512/Global-warming-Earth-heated-medieval-times-human-CO2-emissions.html

    can’t we move on to sumsing else ?

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  58. nasska (9,556 comments) says:

    bereal

    You may enjoy some of these:

    http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/extreme_mohammed/

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  59. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    Other_Andy 5:40, Griffbait set. Good job. I have popcorn on the go. When will the prize leap from the ether shouting “Altie site! Big Oil! Not science!”. I’m becoming impatient!

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  60. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Thanks for that nasska.

    i especially liked the one, ‘Mohammed writes the koran,’

    Of course you now need to go into hiding.

    There will be a fatwa out on you before you can say,’ Jack Shit.’
    They will be hunting you down as we speak.

    Please contact Pete George. he will be able to tell you where Salman Rushdie and i are hiding out.
    Then you can be safe.

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  61. Nostalgia-NZ (4,697 comments) says:

    nasska why post your crap on somebody else’s website, safety, bravado, lack of fortitude?
    I suggest you should consider beginning your own site where you can post such material to your heart’s content, and of course to your own liability.

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  62. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    By the way, our mate

    Nostalgia-NZ

    now there is a dude with a real good sense of humour.
    Sorta like a muslims sense of humour.
    Like fuck all.

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  63. Other_Andy (2,079 comments) says:

    “nasska why post your crap on somebody else’s website, safety, bravado, lack of fortitude?
    I suggest you should consider beginning your own site where you can post such material to your heart’s content, and of course to your own liability.”

    Virgin in a Condom, Piss Christ or “Jesus on a crucifix covered in ants” OK Nostalgia?
    Are you a supporter of the “resolution condemning defamation of religion” adopted by the UN and pushed by the IOC?

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  64. Michael Mckee (1,091 comments) says:

    Yes that was awful Nassaka.
    I like some of your jokes but they were OTT.

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  65. Scott Chris (5,682 comments) says:

    Just a professor of physics at Princeton, obviously not one of those learned ‘climatologists’

    Hmm, just another member of the Koch funded Cato Institute who persistently trots out the same old tired sceptic arguments year after year, all of which have been discredited repeatedly by the experts. In the article you posted, the guy doesn’t seem to know what a climatic trend is (or pretends not to) and keeps harping on about atmospheric warming even though the atmosphere only holds 2% of the earth’s surface heat content.

    Put it this way Andy. Would you consult a psychiatrist if you were suffering from a brain tumour?

    And ask yourself this:

    Why would only a few hundred of the 47,000 members of the American Physical Society sign his petition to reword their position statement on climate change?

    Answer: Because 98% of them disagree with Happer.

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  66. labours a joke (442 comments) says:

    good one Nasska..LMFAO !

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  67. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    Gee you guys are great
    At least you are posting from scientists and not pr hacks like joe nova or nutters like wanking watts
    I have really got the three mouskateers going havent I :lol:

    Who made you moderator Nostalgia-NZ ?

    Some of us view religion as the root of most wars and hate on this planet Prove otherwise if you can

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  68. Other_Andy (2,079 comments) says:

    “Put it this way Andy. Would you consult a psychiatrist if you were suffering from a brain tumour?”

    Try to be original SC.

    Would you consult a surgeon who fakes his research, tries to hide mistakes, lies and bases his operating techniques on computer models even though they don’t match the reality?

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  69. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    C’mon Scott.
    Tell us where Professor Lu fucked up

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2120512/Global-warming-Earth-heated-medieval-times-human-CO2-emissions.html

    Now that should be easy for a brain the size of yours.

    Go for it little Scott.

    Griff, you can help surely.

    Help your mate out.
    Just one point will help Griff.
    Any fuken thing Griff.
    Where has prof Lu gone wrong ?

    C’mon girls.
    Griff ?
    Scott?

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  70. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Fuken idiots.
    Both of you.

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  71. adze (1,695 comments) says:

    New concepts in primary education. Looks brilliant. I might even have a look myself, since I was always average at best in math :)

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  72. Nostalgia-NZ (4,697 comments) says:

    bereal
    9.04

    Don’t talk to yourselves like that.

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  73. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    “Would you consult a surgeon who fakes his research, tries to hide mistakes, lies and bases his operating techniques on computer models even though they don’t match the reality?”

    So why do you swear by the altie websites? they really rate vsavs your last comment

    Much of the rubbish found on altie websites are down right lies or the fantasy of nutjobs yet the altie community swears by it even if it is repeatedly discredited .
    How else except climate models are you going to predict the future Cristal balls are an altie artifact are they not.
    Fact its getting warmer 8 of the 10 warmest years have happened in the last decade.
    More high temprature records have been broken in the last two decades than in any time in recorded history.
    An inconvenient truth for the alties. they just denigrate the record even thought a brand new Independent one was created by Berkley That agrees with the other three. Tthat still cant be right according to the alties they read it on a blog. :smile:
    Stop the jokes Other_Andy My guts hurt from laughing to much

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  74. Other_Andy (2,079 comments) says:

    After the……
    “Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past” (2000)
    “By 2010 the world will be engulfed with 50 million “climate refugees.” (2005)
    “Global Warming will completely melt away the Himalayan glaciers in 25 years.”(2007)
    “Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012” (2007)

    We now have the ‘Compost bomb’

    The ‘Compost bomb’ is latest climate change ‘tipping point’
    limate change could fuel a giant ‘compost bomb’, scientists have warned, as decaying vegetation stuck under the ice or in peat bogs starts to heat up and tips the world into dangerous global warming.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/9168055/Compost-bomb-is-latest-climate-change-tipping-point.html

    The end is nigh!
    Repent! Repent!

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  75. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    Fact its getting warmer 8 of the 10 warmest years have happened in the last decade.

    That’s an undisputed fact is it Griff? Or just a factoid that you saw once, like and trot out? Why are the actuals below the lowest IPCC range (the one that assumed zero Co2 emission growth)? How much of any warming is attributable to human caused factors vs natural variations in climate, ie those that have been happening for billions of years.. or more recently, since the global MWP when temps were higher than today with lower Co2? What’s the MWP all about Griff? Do you deny it happening. If yes on what basis. If no, how do you explain the temperature vs Co2 relationship?

    Nah, all too hard for you Griff. Just close your eyes and trust the ‘scientists’ who will tell you and I that giving them huge sums of money will make the dire global crisis they concocted go away.

    You’ll note I haven’t posted any links Griff. I have plenty of research, but it’s just not worth it for you. Any sites that carry messages that challenge your world view are dismissed out-of-hand and content authors subjected to ad hominem’s.

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  76. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Adze, I’m not sure whether Khan online education will work for everyone. In teaching math, I prefer either Mathematica from Wolfram or Maple software from MapleSoft. These are the best commercial tools out there that are available for teaching math from primary school, secondary and tertiary level (even the engineering/scientific research-based industries). These tools not only explain (or show middle steps of) how the answer is calculated, but the user can type in many problems as he/she wants to be solved. The learner can grasp difficult concepts faster in this way, rather than one, two or 3 fixed videos from site like Khan academy. WHY? Because the problems are the same this year, the same next year , and beyond? This doesn’t challenge the learner/user on an interactive manner. Mathematica & Maple do.

    I use Maple at home to teach primary school kids, intermediate level and senior high school students. It makes my job easier, since I only have to show the students perhaps twice or 3 times of how to solve a specific problem, then they’re on their own using Maple by typing in the problems from their textbooks. Textbook exercises for each chapter can range from 30 to over 100 problems to be solved. So, the students can try to solve the problem by hand on a workbook first (they must) because that’s how they can understand the concepts. When they get stuck or get a problem wrong when they check the answers at the back of the textbook, then they use the “Maple Tutor Assistant” (MTA). They can type the specific equation/s where they got it wrong to the MTA and they can watch it solve the problem (one line at the time) upto the answer. The good thing about Maple, is what you see on textbook is what you get on screen. I mean that the input/output is Latex (math-notation typesetting).

    Here are 2 videos on using Maple for education (at any level). Video #1) is a short introduction, while video #2) is advanced.

    #1) Maple: Clickable Math
    #2) Clickable Calculus: Differential Equations, Linear Algebra and Vector Calculus

    The good thing about true interactive computer algebra system like Maple, is that it can help anyone with any capability in maths, from weak to strong students. Also it is a programming environment as well. Students who are strong can start writing programs in Maple (for anything, from physics simulation, electronic or control system simulations and algorithm developments, etc,…). Not only the student have an opportunity for accelerated learning using Maple, but also can start learning how to program without having to enroll in a computer science courses or they can learn how to program in Maple before enrolling in a software course.

    I highly recommend either Maple or Mathematica for teaching. I have recommended Maple to St. Paul’s College in Ponsonby to buy a license for their math classrooms. I’m not sure whether any high-school in NZ is using either Mathematical/Maple for teaching math/physics, but I think that the Govt or MoE is spending tax $ on wrong software for schools. The MoE should evaluate these computer algebra software for possible licensing for use in our classrooms.

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  77. Nookin (2,891 comments) says:

    I am looking at getting an e-reader. Top contenders appear to be Ipad or Kindle. Any recommendations/comments?

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  78. adze (1,695 comments) says:

    Cheers FF, I had a look at the video. Looks like a useful product in applied learning situations. And I see from comments it’s programmed in Java too, which is interesting from my perspective (I’m learning that at the moment).

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  79. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    A student copy of Maple is about $200 NZ, so it is worth an investment for kids’ education. Here is another short introduction on using Maple for Working with functions.

    Maple : Working with functions

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  80. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    2 questions for you kk
    were do you get the mwp was warmer from?
    were is the record that is at odds with GISS/nassa Source http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/and Climatic Research Unit eau
    Year Global[46] Land[47] Ocean[48]
    2005 0.6183 0.9593 0.4896
    2010 0.6171 0.9642 0.4885
    1998 0.5984 0.8320 0.5090
    2003 0.5832 0.7735 0.5108
    2002 0.5762 0.8318 0.4798
    2006 0.5623 0.8158 0.4669
    2009 0.5591 0.7595 0.4848
    2007 0.5509 0.9852 0.3900
    2004 0.5441 0.7115 0.4819
    2001 0.5188 0.7207 0.4419
    2011 0.5124 0.8189 0.3970
    2008 0.4842 0.7801 0.3745
    1997 0.4799 0.5583 0.4502
    1999 0.4210 0.6759 0.3240
    1995 0.4097 0.6533 0.3196
    2000 0.3899 0.5174 0.3409
    1990 0.3879 0.5479 0.3283
    1991 0.3380 0.4087 0.3110
    1988 0.3028 0.4192 0.2595
    1987 0.2991 0.2959

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  81. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    Griff, I asked a raft of questions – from easy, to not so easy. You answered none of them, posted two questions to me along with a table of raw data. This is how you debate? I’m as interested in your analysis of the MWP as I am certain that anything I present to you on this will be dismissed out-of-hand. Prove me wrong, please.

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  82. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Jeez O’Dear
    One thing you have to give to a shithead like Griff, and to his mates.
    They will never give/grow up.
    A shithead like Griff will never answer a question.
    Now why would that be a suprise ?
    A shit head like Griff will never address a simple question.
    He is not up for that.
    That would never do.
    But what the shithead will do is just what he has done at 10.35

    Now just to save us all the time.
    Imagine that i have just posted about 15 lines of figures.
    And then i ask a question.
    Were is…………….?

    There you go you shithead.
    Just proved my point.
    You lose.
    What a dumb shithead you are.
    Griff is a classic shithead.

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  83. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Also
    if a drong like Griff is older than 18
    Then i will suck a red one.
    His dad has a lot to answer for.

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  84. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    according to main stream science Most of the warming over the last 130 years has been caused by co2. The theory was put forth before the global temperature records were collated when the temperature records were created they backed the validity of the theory. The slope of the long term graph is more relevant than the effects of short term phenomena like sun spot activity an approximately eleven year cycle and the random SOI Both of have the effect of suppressing the global temperature in the last decade.
    That’s an undisputed fact is it Griff? Or just a factoid that you saw once
    Its the consensus of all three temperature records that I know of unless you have another validv one the highest global temperatures as stated in the table stands
    wanking watts was rebutted by berklay so his allegations are totally discredited as are the nz climate coalitions attempt to discredit NIWA

    Pre human civilization is a straw man Any thing pre about 4000 bc is totally irrelevant when it comes to the impacts that will effect us now.
    No temperatures were not higher during the mwp than now so your whole statement re the mwp is null http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png
    unless you have another 11 peer reviewed studys that dispute these
    P.D. Jones, K.R. Briffa, T.P. Barnett, and S.F.B. Tett (1998). “High-resolution Palaeoclimatic Records for the last Millennium: Interpretation, Integration and Comparison with General Circulation Model Control-run Temperatures”. The Holocene 8: 455-471. doi:10.1191/095968398667194956

    M.E. Mann, R.S. Bradley, and M.K. Hughes (1999). “Northern Hemisphere Temperatures During the Past Millennium: Inferences, Uncertainties, and Limitations”. Geophysical Research Letters 26 (6): 759-762.

    Crowley and Lowery (2000). “Northern Hemisphere Temperature Reconstruction”. Ambio 29: 51-54. Modified as published in Crowley (2000). “Causes of Climate Change Over the Past 1000 Years”. Science 289: 270-277. doi:10.1126/science.289.5477.270

    K.R. Briffa, T.J. Osborn, F.H. Schweingruber, I.C. Harris, P.D. Jones, S.G. Shiyatov, S.G. and E.A. Vaganov (2001). “Low-frequency temperature variations from a northern tree-ring density network”. J. Geophys. Res. 106: 2929-2941.

    J. Esper, E.R. Cook, and F.H. Schweingruber (2002). “Low-Frequency Signals in Long Tree-Ring Chronologies for Reconstructing Past Temperature Variability”. Science 295 (5563): 2250-2253. doi:10.1126/science.1066208.

    : M.E. Mann and P.D. Jones (2003). “Global Surface Temperatures over the Past Two Millennia”. Geophysical Research Letters 30 (15): 1820. doi:10.1029/2003GL017814.

    P.D. Jones and M.E. Mann (2004). “Climate Over Past Millennia”. Reviews of Geophysics 42: RG2002. doi:10.1029/2003RG000143

    S. Huang (2004). “Merging Information from Different Resources for New Insights into Climate Change in the Past and Future”. Geophys. Res Lett. 31: L13205. doi:10.1029/2004GL019781

    A. Moberg, D.M. Sonechkin, K. Holmgren, N.M. Datsenko and W. Karlén (2005). “Highly variable Northern Hemisphere temperatures reconstructed from low- and high-resolution proxy data”. nature 443: 613-617. doi:10.1038/nature03265

    J.H. Oerlemans (2005). “Extracting a Climate Signal from 169 Glacier Records”. Science 308: 675-677. doi:10.1126/science.1107046

    : Instrumental data was jointly compiled by the w:Climatic Research Unit and the UK Meteorological Office Hadley Centre. Global Annual Average data set TaveGL2v [2] was used.

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  85. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    As you were,
    older than 17
    Hey, maybe it wasn’t his dads fault.
    Maybe his dad was an accountant, just like Scotts dad, the poor sod.

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  86. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    Also
    if a drong like Griff is older than 18
    Then i will suck a red one.
    His dad has a lot to answer for.
    I am forty eight bereal so you best start sucking
    Dad was a office machine salesman when the world migrated from the old mechanical adding machines and typewriters to computers I have early memories of going with dad to deliver parts for an ibm mainframe one of the first in the country back when you programmed with wire jumpers and entered data with punch cards. He aleays laughted at having to tell people that the machine he sold them five years ago could be raplaced
    And yes he was an acountant by trade

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  87. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    *sigh*

    according to main stream science Most of the warming over the last 130 years has been caused by co2

    No Griff, almost all warming in the last 130 years has been attributable to the planet moving out of the Little Ice Age. Actually we’ve been warming our way out of this era since about 1635.

    Pre human civilization is a straw man Any thing pre about 4000 bc is totally irrelevant when it comes to the impacts that will effect us now

    Why is this “totally irrelevant”? Oh, and ‘pre human’ … are you saying humans have only existing for 6000 years Griff? Are you a young earther?

    No temperatures were not higher during the mwp than now so your whole statement re the mwp is null http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png

    Quoting Wiki-anything in relation to global warming is completely ridiculous Griff. You can do better, surely?

    In respect of the MWP, I guess the Vikings never really farmed in Greenland, and Green is Norse for ‘white and snow covered’ – right?

    The wamists have lied to us, and manipulated data from day-one. This includes trying to completely erase the MWP because its existence is a mortal blow for the CAGW scam. That so many people, you included Griff, refuse to question this manifest corruption of science is a travesty.

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