It says – Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully has acknowledged $9.2 million is a “significant amount” for his ministry to spend on a razor gang to save money, but says the Government is trying to strike a balance.
McCully yesterday told Parliament the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT) had 30 people working in its “change programme office”, including consultants and permanent staff, and was contracting services from a range of external consultancy firms, at a cost of $9.2 million in the current year.
$ 9.5m for consultants, with the aim to trim $25 million a year from MFAT’s budget.
So won’t they now need to trim $ 34.5m to save the original $ 25m or does the expense of consultants come from some other budget? And this amount will not yet include redundancy, nor any repatriation expenses for sacked staff?
Restructuring a ministry which had a budget of $400m and operated in 50 countries was a difficult task, but the ministry had already shaved $135m a year out of the budget it inherited from the previous Labour government, he said.
Is the budget now of $ 400m plus or minus that $ 135m already, and how long has the consultant razor gang been employed so far?
Why don’t journalists get some one else in the office to read stuff [sic] before it is printed to see if it really does answer questions, not just raise more?
National is facing major internal problems. Nick Smith is already a casualty. The Labour hit squad thought it could sink Judith Collins but may have guessed too much there, overplaying a very weak hand.
The `claims support’ or `advisory team’ list of 28 is bizarre, seems like a gross overplay of name dropping.
A non-MP is the common demoninator in the shaky Key ship.
The plea ends a six-week trial over whether David Stone and Josh Stone – and five other Hutaree militia members – were plotting against the government.
They were arrested in 2010 as a result of an undercover federal operation.
Since their arrest in 2010, David Stone, 51, and Josh Stone, 23, have been held without bail.
During the trial, the court heard recordings of conversations in which the leader of the militia discussed building bombs and killing policemen.
But the judge said there was not enough evidence of a specific plan. No attack ever took place.
“What the government has shown, instead of a concrete agreement and plan to forcibly oppose the authority of the government, is that most – if not all – of these defendants held strong anti-government sentiments,” Judge Victoria Roberts wrote.
“But the court must not guess about what defendants intended to do with their animosity.”
Part of the problem here is that the NZ media is junior, immature, and has too few outlets. So in other jurisdictions a journalist would say “piss off trevor, you’re full of it, this is clearly an over-reached name drop”. But in NZ it’s all hoovered up.
I have heard the same rumours..that Key won’t last the three years and that there will be a snap election.
It was funny last night to hear on parliamentary TV, a list of opinions of Collins read out..It was what Bill English said about her about 8 years ago..Everyone laughed including English himself , who of course had to say he had changed his mind since then.
It seems that they haven’t done their job, but I suspect the elaks that are coming from all sides aren’t helping.
Murray McCully should front up and apologise for making out the Cost of Living allowances were a rort on taxpayers.
Really $154pa for a maintenance man in Moscow, who else is going to do the job, a front company for the KGB?
Sadly the NZ press are all in a small bowl with the fish they need access to, so the ability to deny access and control is easier for the pollies.
That some of them have been compromised by their need for access becomes clearer sometimes as does their partiality too.
Many more people get the news from the net or check stories they read about elsewhere.
The Pullar story was of mild interest when it broke but it is snowballing each day. I’ve also wondered who actually sent her the ACC files in the first place. Could it be that a national party member with access emailed these to her?
She has done well for herself by having her friends apply political pressures in the right places.
The stench of corruption is billowing into town and maybe more heads are going to roll.l
Putting aside the extraordinary claims made by Boag in her letter to Sovereign, another Privacy Commission issue now arises: How did the correspondence between Pullar/Boag on the private (NOT ACC) insurance claim become public?
Did ASB (who now own Sovereign) release it?
A forensic exmination of that issue might be interesting, to say the least.
Further, how does a private insurance claim suddenly become part of the ACC saga?
Any individual is entitled to gather “support” for their “cause” on any private issue. Provided the “cause” is within the law, it does not matter from whence that “support” comes.
Sounds like pathetic “reporting” and editorial over-sight.
I wonder how many people think Mike Hosking is the most boring individual to exist? I simply can’t listen to his unimaginative ramblings. This sky city work conflict is about the only interesting thing he has ever done.
Actually, Phil, no-one was trying to get 14m out of ACC and there is no reliable evidence that Key was involved — just a self-serving letter. This is one of the reasons why labour should be kept out of power for some time to come. It engages in personality politics and remains the nasty party.
With all the leftwing handwringing over ‘Fracking’ I was interested to watch O’Bama making a speech on the US Energy crisis last night. He promised to increase Fracking over the next year by at least 100%.
There are still too many unanswered questions..How come he applied for a foreign students allowance when studying in the US then a few years later , he was no longer a foreigner??? Perhaps he should pay this allowance back..
Also healthcare..abortions etc..treating the biggest church in the world as a fringe belief. He has no regard for the US constitution which guarantees freedom of religion.
As interesting as the ACC saga is…the debate on fracking is a typical example of a Greenie beat up based on near total ignorance and misinformation.
Fracking in NZ is done in wells 3000 meters or more deep…thats three kilometres from the surface, or deeper than Mt Egmont (that’s what it’s called in the Naki) is high. While some water wells – not in Taranaki – might go to 600 metres, the vast majority are shallower than 200 metres. While gravity still exerts force on the solids and liquids used in fracking, how the hell can any contamination of strata almost 3 k’s higher – and insulated by literally dozens of layers of sedimentary rock – cause contamination? The answer is quite simply “it can’t”, and what may be done in Texas in old stripper wells 500m deep which might have been drilled 50 or 60 years ago is simply irrelevant.
Phil, what happened here ? – http://whoar.co.nz/ – Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
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I did not say there was nothing to see. I corrected your false statement that Key helped soak 14m from ACC. He did not. Nor did anyone else. You are the only person I have seen making a statement about Key soaking money from ACC. Get your facts right. I also said there was no reliable evidence of Key’s involvement in any campaign. Produce evidence and I will consider it. Don’t default to the gutter denominator determined by your prejudices.
Has Sovereign indicated at all in the media yet that clients should not be concerned whether their private correspondence with the company may not be too private after all?
And this latest letter is purportedly from Sovereign to Pullar/Boag
So there will be a little time for everyone to deny this and that
and then of course we are likely to get the letter Pullar/Boag to Sovereign
James: the funniest one is the extreme Greenies living “a chemical free lifestyle”…so no cleaning the toilet, washing the dishes or the clothes, no painting the house or even riding in the train…let alone driving a car…in fact when I was at school, food contained “chemicals” didnt it?
Mind you, perhaps it would be give if the ignorant Luddites DID lead a chemical free lifestyle…
“Something just happened where I was just yearning for a difference in my life; I felt really empty. The drugs weren’t doing it, the alcohol wasn’t doing it; I mean, it would make you feel good for a little while, like peeing your pants on a cold night – it feels good for a little while, but it’s not a long-term solution”
“…Can you tell the difference between Santorum quotes and Megadeth lyrics?
Nope – you probably can’t…
When you consider the contrast between the Christian right and—oh, you know—the satanic symbolism and violent sexuality associated with heavy-metal music – Mustaine’s pseudo-endorsement* might seem born out of a slight cognitive dissonance.
But when you think about it more – is there really anything more metal than a guy who talks obsessively about sex, the devil –
- and the imminent destruction of all that is sacred and holy?
Take our short quiz to find out if you can tell the difference between Rick Santorum quotes and things Dave Mustaine has said and sung.”
(ed:..i got six correct..out of ten:…woo-hoo..!..(clenches fist.. punches air..in suitable heavy-metal styling..)..
@Longknives – don’t be soft. Metallica defined and perfected Thrash with their first four albums and then grew up and progressed. There’s a good reason Mustaine is still ploughing the same rut and hoping to boost his profile with a “Supergroup” reunion with Hetfield and Ulrich…
I hope we get to hear from Rob Campbell on the reason for his resignation, it seems there could be splits of opinion on the board at POAL. If the POAL is found to have acted illegally the chairman and CEO will have to go while Aucklanders will be left to stare at the over $10 million dollar loss.
For the first time, this global super-organism, this global intelligence will be able to send a signal, a strong and clear signal to the earth. And what that means in a sense is that we can, we will be a regulating intelligence for the planet, I’m sure, in the future … And lead to a stronger Gaia, if you will, a stronger earth system”. — ABC The Drum
‘Picture an eight-storey building by a beach, then imagine waves lapping its roof,‘
‘This planet, this Gaia, will have acquired a brain and a nervous system. That will make it act as a living animal, as a living organism, at some sort of level.’
The person who made these statements is:
(a) Julia Gillard’s hand-picked Climate Change Commissioner (Hint)
(b) The newly admitted fellow of, and spokesperson for the Australian Academy of Science (hint)
According to Blabbermouth, [Mustaine] has been forced to re-consider the subject matter of some songs.
“It’s what the subject matter’s about. I’ve been struggling with that. For example, ‘Anarchy In The U.K.’ is a song I really don’t like playing because it starts off and says ‘I am an Antichrist’. Well, I’m not an antichrist. Not only am I not it, I don’t want to be it. I won’t even be one of them.”
“And as far as ‘The Conjuring’… it actually has the components of a hex in it and when I wrote the song it was cool and it was vogue to be into black magic and the dark side and stuff like that – so it was really cool to have lines from a hex in it. But looking back now – being a dad, being a responsible person, being a musician who has influenced a lot of lives very positively – I look at it and think, ‘I don’t know if I would play that live’”.
Phil. If I gave your dog a piece of steak or a meaty bone it would gobble it down like a shot. Your dog is vegan because you are forcing your human diet onto a carnivore. It cannot make a choice in what you feed it. Pets (especially dogs) are essentially slaves to do and get what we humans decide). My shepherd ate meat and lived to 15 – a good age for a shep. Your anecdote proves nothing.
Rodney Hide said on Radio Live this arvo that the scandal is ” enveloping the Government of New Zealand.”
That comment may seem innocent enough but perhaps there is more to come as the press drills down into the story.
@Fletch’s 1.00pm – what a fantastic example of why we really shouldn’t give any weight to anything that singers or actors say. Mustaine now doesn’t like singing “Anarchy in the UK” because of the “Antichrist” line, because he’s not an Antichrist…what excuse did he have for singing it previously, while he was still an American with no greater link to the UK than a few gigs? Idiot.
Oh no… this will come as a blow to the warmists: Their very own, dearest IPCC says there’s no link between human caused climate change and weather disasters.
Kudos to the IPCC — they have gotten the issue just about right, where “right” means that the report accurately reflects the academic literature on this topic.
Anytime that you read claims that invoke disasters loss trends as an indication of human-caused climate change, including the currently popular “billion dollar disasters” meme, you can simply call “bullshit” and point to the IPCC SREX report.
Here is a question for some of the correspondents who have posted above.
When you engage with a self declared drug addled, leech on society bludger, who is illiterate and
has no self esteem or pride and lives off his 16 year old kid.
And you know it.
One who openly mocks you for being so stupid as to work for a living.
By engaging with him are you lifting him up to your level or
are you dragging yourself down to his level ?
That is the question.
To my mind the answer is. Both.
Why do you do it ?
Phool, no amount of unreadable links can change the fact that dogs, and especially cats, are carnivores. To deny them the chance to express and enjoy their most fundamental nature due to a desire to have them duplicate your eating disorder, is just sick, bizarre, and cruel.
i try to spell it out for for some.
Sadly some will never get it.
Such as, ‘Put it away.’ who just can’t seem to get it.
I will explain later.
However. In the meantime.
Could PIa please explain why you are so in the thrall of a nonce that you let a nonce manipulate you ?
Where does that place you ?
What is wrong with you that you that you would be so stupid as to try to argue with smoke ?
What is so wrong with bereal, trying to argue with someone who argues with philu? Wait a minute, what is wrong with me, trying to argue with bereal, who tries to argue with someone who argues with philu?
bereal: no disrespect to you (and I say that genuinely, in this case it’s not lawyer code for “you are actually dumb”) your comments at 4.18 and 6.02 will be regarded by some – and certainly by the Phool in question – as engaging with him..By his silence, he may presently be toking up (or whatever the expression is these days) but when he reads your comments he will be delighted…
beryl, we’ve been through this before, but you’re too dense to take it in. “Nonce” doesn’t mean whatever you think it means, it means a child molester. You would be wise to stop calling everyone you disagree with a “child molester”. Phool ( if that’s who you’re talkign about, fuck only knows what you’re on about half the time) has done many vile things, but I doubt he’s done that.
I’ll argue with who the fuck I like, beryl, Jesus I’m even arguing with you. Well I’m not really arguing with you, you’re too idiotic to follow an argument and are incapable of learning, I’m using you ( and phool ) to make points that neither of you will ever understand, but may be of interest and entertainment to others on here. If not, they’re free to skip past them. They’re alwyas prefaced with “phool, ” . This is a strong hint that if you don’t want to read responses to phool, now would be a good time to stop reading. Most people get that.
Ah, so the corrupt nature of the US Justice system is coming to the for. No you can’t have any money to defend yourself nor access to the evidence.
Megaupload lawyer Ira Rothken has accused the United States government of impeding the defence of copyright-accused Kim Dotcom by refusing to release frozen funds needed to gather defence evidence.
Rothken told top US technology news service CNet that Megaupload asked for $7 million to pay consultant KPMG to electronically search Megaupload’s servers and then a $1m advance to buy the servers outright from Virginian hosting company Carpathia, but was refused both times.
The local Melons are getting their nickers in a right old twist, poor buggers. Not content on fomenting terrorism ( urewera ) their new enemy is fracking, I guess the AGW lark isn’t having the desired effect any longer so fracking is the new boogie man. My neighbour has the deepest bore around 300+ metres and oil companies have being fracking around the district for quite a few years, water quality is still of the highest standard. How cracking rock thousands of metres deep can effect shallow water bores is beyond me. I have relations who hold high positions in local oil firms, one actually tests a lot of the fracked wells and recons the Melons are talking out of holes in their arses. He knows of no issues due to fracking and water quality. The Melons have a right to be concerned but I suspect this concern should come with very large grains of salt. They are big promoters for the poorer in our society, perhaps they should take a moral stand and refuse any propotion of welfare payments gained from the tax take made through oil revenues. I shall not hold my breath.
In answer to your question re the Carment Thomas murder sentencing: as you know, you need to look at s104 of the Setencing Act and see if the facts of the murder fit with the requirements set out in that section. For those who aren’t aware of s104, that section requires a 17 year non-parole for murders that qualify as (from memory of the parliamentary debates) “the worst sort of murder”.
The list of qualifying factors are
if the murder was committed in an attempt to avoid the detection, prosecution, or conviction of any person for any offence or in any other way to attempt to subvert the course of justice; or
(b) if the murder involved calculated or lengthy planning, including making an arrangement under which money or anything of value passes (or is intended to pass) from one person to another; or
(c) if the murder involved the unlawful entry into, or unlawful presence in, a dwelling place; or
(d) if the murder was committed in the course of another serious offence; or
(e) if the murder was committed with a high level of brutality, cruelty, depravity, or callousness; or
(ea) if the murder was committed as part of a terrorist act (as defined in section 5(1) of the Terrorism Suppression Act 2002); or
(f) if the deceased was a constable or a prison officer acting in the course of his or her duty; or
(g) if the deceased was particularly vulnerable because of his or her age, health, or because of any other factor; or
(h) if the offender has been convicted of 2 or more counts of murder, whether or not arising from the same circumstances; or
(i) in any other exceptional circumstances.
None of those seem to apply in this case. Indeed, without wanting to minimise the murder, but it is really difficult to see where this particular one is not a ‘regular’ murder (and I dislike putting it that way, because it always feels like it is devaluing the crime, but we are forced to differentiate by the existence of s104) rather than one that would qualify under s104. Indeed, there appears to have been an element of provocation there (and, again, not to in any way blame the deceased person- provocation is about the offender, not the victim) which may have served to take it entirely out of s104 reckoning, if it ever was actually within s104 from the Crown’s point of view.
I think the sentence is fair. It will be almost 14 years before he can apply for parole. More than likely he will spend 15 or 16 years behind bars before being released, and he will most likely never re-offend (unless he has a criminal record that I haven’t read about.
That is not in any way to justify anything about what was done either at the time or following the murder. Just to explain some of the reasons for not giving a 17 year non-parole.
I am sure that Garth McVicar will disagree with me, however.
FES: Yes, I am familiar with s.104…surely cutting up a body in several pieces and partially burying so the poor woman didnt even decompose decently (and you know well what I mean) should qualify as an offence falling under s.104 (e) ? If not, I am right am I not that the Judge could easily have imposed a 16 year sentence without risking being overturned on appeal?
And what is your view of the 6 year perverting the course of justice sentence being served concurrently? I heard Venning J on the radio saying it was difficult to imagine a worse case of that offence…surely that is justification for making the sentences consecutive? Or is there some appellate decision(s) on this that I am unaware of?
Holy crap – I only just saw this comment from mikenmild:
Obama is a shoe-in for re-election for two main reasons:
– improving US economic conditions
– lack of a credible Republican candidate
Considering that you said only a few weeks ago that you don’t actually know that much about Obama (who does?) or his situation, I can only assume that you’re looking for a bite? Okay, so you’ve got one, two actually.
First up is the woman who, despite her GOP background, was a breathless supporter of the Lightworker in 2008. Now? Well it seems he’s a Not-So-Smooth Operator:
Maybe a stinging decision is coming, maybe not, but in a purely political sense this is how it looks: We were in crisis in 2009—we still are—and instead of doing something strong and pertinent about our economic woes, the president wasted history’s time. He wasted time that was precious—the debt clock is still ticking!—by following an imaginary bunny that disappeared down a rabbit hole…
I’d like to say “ouch”, but “Hey Rube!”, seems more suitable. But this next piece, a video from the Huffington Post, is brutal: The Promise of Hope. The credits say it all:
Paid for by the citizens for the preservation of the same amount of hope that we had before that last time when Obama told us to have hope.
Good luck with getting those supporters out to vote in 2010. Gonna take a lot of fear. A lot of fear – as we can already see.
FES vs David Garrett as above.
Both have good points.
From a laymans point.
The murder in itself, was not particulary outstanding.
His conduct, post mortem, was not good.
However, this may speak towards a normally intelligent man who, faced with the unusual unforeseen and unconsidered
problems of having to dispose of a body, took some outrageous steps to conceal his crime.
Does the method of concealing the crime add to the heiniousnes of the crime itself?
To my mind the question is. Let the jury decide.
Was the sentence fair.
Any decent sentence would have him serving at least the same sentence as to the the one that he gave to the
innocent that he killed
ie LIFE. Meaning his whole life. 13.X years is an insult to the life he took.
Where have i got that wrong ?
A footwear salesman, staying at a hotel, took a fancy to the housemaid.
He offered her $200 for an hour in his room, but she replied that she
wasn’t a girl like that.
She said that when she did it, it was just for love. Now he’d put her
off and she couldn’t get passionate even if she wanted to.
The salesman happened to mention that he was selling shoes
and had an extremely good sample pair. The girl gave in,
and took the salesman upstairs, where she stripped completely
and lay back on the bed. The rep got going and was surprised
and delighted to find the girl very responsive.
First she wrapped her right arm around him, then her left
leg, then her left arm and then her right leg. Of course her
enthusiasm must have been due to his skill as a lover.
“I thought you said you couldn’t get worked up.” said the rep
bereal: the jury has no say in the sentence in NZ…they never have…even in the days of capital punishment jury recommendations of mercy were meaningless…except perhaps to influence the cabinet later on the question of clemency..the Judge is solely reponsible for the sentence passed on this guy…and that would have been just the same even if he had been found guilty by a jury…
phil-u-in on fracking
I have knowledge about aquifers and am impressed by DG’s comment. DG is right .
There is no threat to aquifers from fracking.
There is more likelyhood of unconfined aquifers being contaminated from ground level than any threat from fracking to confined aquifers.
This whole fracking argument is being led by imbecilic tossers,greenies and those lacking any sort of intelligence.
> A woman was at her hairdresser’s getting her hair styled for
> a trip to Rome with her husband. She mentioned the trip to
> the hairdresser, who responded:
> ” Rome ? Why would anyone want to go there? It’s crowded and
> dirty.. You’re crazy to go to Rome . So, how are you getting
> “We’re taking BA,” was the reply. “We got a great rate!”
> “BA?” exclaimed the hairdresser.” That’s a terrible airline.
> Their planes are old, their flight attendants are ugly, and
> they’re always late. So, where are you staying in Rome ?”
> “We’ll be at this exclusive little place over on Rome ‘s
> Tiber River called Teste.”
> “Don’t go any further. I know that place. Everybody thinks
> its gonna be something special and exclusive, but it’s
> really a dump.”
> “We’re going to go to see the Vatican and maybe get to see
> the Pope.”
> “That’s rich,” laughed the hairdresser. “You and a million
> other people trying to see him. He’ll look the size of an
> “Boy, good luck on this lousy trip of yours. You’re going to
> need it.”
> A month later, the woman again came in for a hairdo. The
> hairdresser asked her about her trip to Rome .
> “It was wonderful,” explained the woman, “not only were we
> on time in one of BA’s brand new planes, but it was
> overbooked, and they bumped us up to first class. The food
> and wine were wonderful, and I had a handsome 28-year-old
> steward who waited on me hand and foot.
> And the hotel was great! They’d just finished a £5 million
> remodelling job, and now it’s a jewel, the finest hotel in
> the city. They too, were overbooked, so they apologized and
> gave us their owner’s suite at no extra charge!”
> “Well,” muttered the hairdresser, “that’s all well and good,
> but I bet you didn’t get to see the Pope.”
> “Actually, we were quite lucky, because as we toured the
> Vatican, a Swiss Guard tapped me on the shoulder, and
> explained that the Pope likes to meet some of the visitors,
> and if I’d be so kind as to step into his private room and
> wait, the Pope would personally greet me.
> Sure enough, five minutes later, the Pope walked through the
> door and shook my hand! I knelt down and he spoke a few
> words to me.”
> “Oh, really! What’d he say ?”
> He said: “Who the fuck did your hair?”
Three women walk by a pet shop. Suddenly the parrot yells
out, “Yellow, Pink, Blue.”
The first lady says, “That’s funny, I’m wearing yellow underwear.” The
second says, “Odd, I’m wearing pink.” The third says, “Really odd, I’m
To test the parrot, the next day, all of them wore white
and the parrot shouted, “white ! white ! white!”
The three women are amazed. The final test was the third day,
just as they walk in the parrot yelled “Bald, curly and straight!”
The useless media as usual don’t delve in to the planned move to con the PCE in to having an investigation into fracking.
This whole move has been a setup by the gweens with I think Hughes leading the charge.
The gweens Cr in HB put up a motion that was obviously constructed by advisors and the whole council was sucked in.Lets go to the PCE.What a good idea.We don’t have a clue ourselves so will run for cover.
Surprise, surprise the PCE is going ahead.
What a setup.
Wiseowl: It will depend on who the PCE takes evidence from…I dont know the woman, but she is clearly no fool…came out in favour of the use of 1080 to the great dissappointment of fools who clearly expected her to fall for any greenie bullshit…There probably isnt such a thing as a fracking expert who is a recognised greenie…at least in NZ…but such a person would be a useful expert witness…in the US there will be a few..
Mikey: I dont remembe the result of that…remind me…Ms Wright impressed me on the 1080 thing…I made myself as well informed as I could while I was in there, and came to the conclusion that only nutters opposed it…Wright came to the same conclusion..just expressed it much more diplomatically
The Royal Commission on GE was about 10 years ago. I think it might have been the result of a Labour promise to the Alliance. It disappointed many by recommending a cautious approach but seems to have taken the heat out of the issue.
Nothing wrong with an enquiy about fracking.
Always good to be cautious with things (GE and fracking) that could mess up things big time.
Also nice to be able to hear the facts instead of the propaganda from the ‘greens’ and their groupies.
Not that it will help much to silence them.
They are against it no matter what the outcome of the enquiry.
They don’t like and or care about facts.
Other_Andy: that’s exactly the problem….as I recall when Ms Wright came out on the 1080 issue they first all expressed widespread disbelief, followed fairly quickly by conspiracy theories about “how this could have happened” …which DIDN’T include “Ms Wright looked at all the evidence, applied her brain, and decided you were all clowns” !!