Non story of the week

March 14th, 2012 at 6:46 pm by David Farrar

This might be the biggest beatup of the year. TV3 reports:

Labour says a promise by in 2008 shows he has misled the public over job cuts in the public service.

3 News has dug out never seen before footage of Mr Key promising “no job cuts” to the Public Service Association Conference back in 2008.

In fact in a response to a question that day Mr Key argued selling assets didn’t make for a better economy.

“Nor am I hell bent on selling assets, actually in the world of making the boat go faster, actually, I don’t think selling assets actually makes the boat go faster.”

So a speech four years ago before the global economic crisis and before the surplus disappeared into a decade of deficits is seen as a “broken promise” today. Note that Labour and the supplied the video the day before Key’s speech setting out change tomorrow.

The global economic crisis meant National reduced public sector jobs in the first term -just as id cancelled further tax cuts also. Is the PSA demanding National should have kept their tax cuts?

And most of all, National got re-elected in 2011 with explicit policies that there would be asset part-sales, and further cost cutting in the state sector. So how one can claim a 2011 election manifesto is trumped by a 2008 speech, I don’t know.

UPDATE: TV3 inform me that no one supplied them with the video, it was from their library archive.

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34 Responses to “Non story of the week”

  1. Pete George (22,863 comments) says:

    Funny as a lead story, something that misled the public so much they have just uncovered it.

    But National have had it easy, according to Shearer:
    “They also had the advantage of the global financial crisis, the fact the earthquakes had hit and a whole bunch of other things that played to their advantage.”

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  2. RRM (9,471 comments) says:

    So a speech four years ago before the global economic crisis and before the surplus disappeared into a decade of deficits is seen as a “broken promise” today.

    2008 was more the “beginning of” the financial crisis, than “before” it…

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  3. kino flo (81 comments) says:

    I didn’t see the story, but does Duncan say that Labour gave the vision to him?

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  4. SBY (120 comments) says:

    I didn’t realise there was a statute of limitations on broken promises.

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  5. Than (425 comments) says:

    There is – it’s called an election. The voters get to decide whether A) there is actually a broken promise, and B) whether it matters.

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  6. Jimbob (640 comments) says:

    Edward Bernays would have been very disappointed in TV3′s effort.

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  7. swan (659 comments) says:

    So from this we can take it that Key was happy to keep the state even more bloated, only the GFC forced his hand. What a dick. The fact remains, 2005 was the pivotal election of recent history, and the wrong team won.

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  8. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Who will win the next one..that is the question.

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  9. SBY (120 comments) says:

    Than, his speech hadn’t been seen by the public before today. They haven’t yet judged him on his broken promise, but I expect many now will.

    Hardly a non-story.

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  10. wiseowl (763 comments) says:

    Well Joana, National will not win the next election.
    It’s a worry what we will end up with though.

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  11. MikeG (399 comments) says:

    Given that Farrar spent a lot of last year talking about things that the Labour Government did in the late ’80s and trying to link them to Phil Goff, the statement “So how one can claim a 2011 election manifesto is trumped by a 2008 speech, I don’t know” rates as rather hypocritical.

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  12. Steve (4,499 comments) says:

    The Lefties are so desperate for MSM coverage. It’s all about the POAL and MUNZ but Trev, Shearer, Robertson, Fenton, Ardern are in the political wilderness. The Labour Party, who are they? oh yeah, they heve been silent, keep getting foot in mouth disease.

    Now they dig up quotes from 2006. Was 2006 one of the years that Labour was flogging off just about everything so they had some Electioneering funding?
    Then in 2008 it turned to shit and the two great leaders stepped down on the night because they could not face all of the LIES they had been telling.
    National is selling part of the assets, not all, so stop the bullshit you leftie trolls

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  13. mattyman1010 (32 comments) says:

    Its this type of rubbish reporting (to be fair most of it spews out of Gower and Tristan Clayton) that made me move from TV3. It’s seriously poor and somewhat misleading

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  14. Johnboy (14,998 comments) says:

    Hell a JK got it wrong in one of his speeches because the playing field moved just a tad! :)

    What a coup for Liarbour!

    It’s never happened before of course.

    Hang on a minnit!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO725Hbzfls

    :)

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  15. 3-coil (1,200 comments) says:

    Who gives a shit what TV3 (=TVAkld) says anyway. For the 2/3 NZ population below the bombay hills they’re a joke. Tonight’s other story was: problems with the motorway onramp – TV3 you’d be sad losers if that was on a regional station, let alone one purporting to be a national broadcaster.

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  16. Keeping Stock (10,108 comments) says:

    Once again, Paddy Gower falls into the trap of trying to invent the news rather than merely reporting on it. Still; at least his hostility towards the Right is there for all to see; he doesn’t try to hide his bias.

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  17. Than (425 comments) says:

    @ SBY – this was a public appearance by John Key in front of the (pro-Labour) PSA. They had three years before the election to realise this was significant and point it out, and this is the first the public has heard of it.

    If it wasn’t important enough for Labour/the PSA to remember and make a fuss about during the election, it can’t have been important at all. Trying to be offended after the fact really doesn’t work.

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  18. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    For FS, its not lefties, righties, centres or bluebottles wearing funny hats!

    It’s just journos being journos. Love them or loathe them, they are always there. And if you said something in 1927, it will eventually come back to haunt you, either when you are in your grave or before.

    The answer is for a politician to never ever ever open his silly mouth to make any sound other than a loud burp.

    Have I ever dragged up the past? Yes, of course I have, with the greatest of mint sauce and relish. You are not a good journo if you don’t have a sense of fun and mischief.

    1) Kiri Te Kanawa (oh, yes, if you are going to aim, aim high!) KTK got her first chance on the back of money she had collected from ordinary Kiwis. Then when she was famous she came back to Wellington to do a concert AND CHARGED THE EARTH FOR IT! So another imp journo named Barrie Swift and I cooked up this question to ask KTK at her press conference.

    “Ms Te Kanawa, given that you started your stellar career with hard earned money from ordinary New Zealanders why are you locking them out of your concert by charging more for it than the weekly minimum adult wage?”

    2) General Vernon Walters, an American poohbah, came to NZ for something-or-other and held a presser in the Embassy. I looked up his CV and found he was the head of the CIA in Chile at the time the Allende government was overthrown by Maggie’s friend Pinochet. Of course it didn’t say THAT, but anybody in the know could read behind the lines.

    “I asked him: “General Waters how much of a part did you play in the destruction of democratic government in Chile?”

    More later, its roast lamb for tea!

    Right, now the lamb has settled down, we’ll begin again.

    In the case of KTK, the conference ended with my question. We will never know the answer, but I had my story.

    Then a few hours later Dom editor Ted Frost came storming into the reporters’ room screaming that his concert tickets had been cancelled and “WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS OUTRAGE?”

    “It was me, Ted,” I said brightly, very pleased with myself. So I told him the story.

    Ted was a great guy. We all loved him despite his little problem. As I told the tragic tale he tried to conceal a smile, finding it more and more difficult.

    All he said was: “Oh, I see. Well, I never did like opera anyway.” Then he left to go back to the pub

    But Vernon Walters was a classy man. Of course, he denied all my questions (I seem to recall I even asked him if he had seen any killing in the coup or done any himself) but he did it with a slight grin.

    When the conference finished he shook my hand. Good questions, son, he said in his US drawl. “You’ll go far”

    Really interesting was the reaction I got from my colleagues. In both cases they were shocked and disgusted and didn’t talk to me for weeks. At the KTK presser they were largely pointy headed reviewers who were just terrified their tickets would go the same way as Ted’s.

    At the Walters shindigs there were what was then called “Diplomatic Reporters”. They were sure diplomatic. Their sole aim in life was never to write anything nasty if it meant missing out on a cocktail party or losing a free junket to the States paid for by the CIA.

    Needless to say, I never saw the inside of the US Embassy in Molesworth Street again, a fact that has led to many sleepless nights. And I haven’t visited the US.

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  19. Liberty (236 comments) says:

    Talking about a broken promises.
    In 1972 Labour promised to take the bikes away from the gangs.
    We are still waiting.

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  20. nasska (10,689 comments) says:

    Few will sleep comfortably tonight after the recent revelations of shits & giggles in the newsrooms of our nation. The thought that the journalists’ socialist fantasies can be acted out at will on the media dime & presented as “in depth” news will cause despondency & newspaper subscription cancellations country wide.

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  21. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    nasska, one question: Who do you think decides what appears in a newspaper or on TV News?

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  22. PaulL (5,874 comments) says:

    Update: TV3 inform that the youtube or iPhone footage supplied by the person who drew this to their attention wasn’t sufficiently high resolution, so they got another copy from their archive. [corrected that for you DPF - I see TV3 are the master of misdirection - if they meant "we found this for ourselves" they'd have said so]

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that, I sort of agree with Peter Freedman, this is what journos do on a slow news day. It fills some space. Do I care about it? No. Do I really expect balance from TV3? No.

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  23. Brian Smaller (3,998 comments) says:

    The entire “news” article ran like an attack advert from the States. I expected to see a Labour Party authorisation statement at the end of it.

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  24. Keeping Stock (10,108 comments) says:

    @ Liberty – and at the Palmerston North Opera House in 1972, I watched as Norm Kirk said categorically “We will not let politics interfere with sport”. Just a few short months later, he cancelled the 1973 Springbok tour to New Zealand, and I vowed never to vote Labour.

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  25. Pete George (22,863 comments) says:

    Breaking news, Key resigns

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  26. Auberon (871 comments) says:

    If it was just sitting round in their “library archive” why did they pitch it as “previously unseen footage,” as if it had been sourced from elsewhere? Is TV3 saying it was only previously unseen because of their own incompetence?

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  27. Rick Rowling (801 comments) says:

    Than (sic), his speech hadn’t been seen by the public before today

    Well, speaking on behalf of myself and the millions of other clairvoyants in New Zealand, we are shocked – SHOCKED – that we were misled by a speech that we didn’t see or hear.

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  28. vto (1,128 comments) says:

    “So a speech four years ago before the global economic crisis ”

    You are a liar Farrar and so is John Key.

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  29. YesWeDid (1,029 comments) says:

    Steady on vto, calling Farrar a liar, that’s a little harsh.

    Farrar just has a different set of standards for National and Labour. If your a Labour politician then everything you have ever said or done can be dragged up, who cares if it was 20 years ago, that’s like yesterday. But if your John Key then we live in a ‘dynamic environment’ and 3 years ago is a different century.

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  30. Rick Rowling (801 comments) says:

    YWD – because a true ideologue ignores any change in the environment and never alters direction to better suit the circumstances. That’s the sort of leadership we need.

    Build a stronger navy to repel the dutch!

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  31. YesWeDid (1,029 comments) says:

    @Rick Rowling – good leadership needs to be have a degree of flexibility and change over time, I have no issue with that.

    However I have an issue with Farrar’s double standards.

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  32. simonway (371 comments) says:

    before the global economic crisis

    Funny definition of “before” you’re using there. GFC/recession started in late 2007, and I was under the impression that 2008 was after 2007.

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  33. Paulus (2,503 comments) says:

    Didn’t see it as do not watch TV3 news (sic).
    But sounds just up the Batman and Robin series – pathetic little duo.
    I understand they have to get either one or both on the news every night – fact or fiction doesn’t matter.

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  34. Pete George (22,863 comments) says:

    Whale has put Duncan’s nose out of joint on this (DPF gets a pass):

    Whale Oil lies again

    Opinion by Duncan Garner

    For the record, claims made by the Beached Whale (Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater) that 3 News secured footage of John Key’s 2008 speech from the PSA are inaccurate.

    The footage is held in our library.

    It brings into question the credibility and accuracy of all his other blogs, read by dozens of followers.

    Big claims from a big man on a small blog site.

    It’s a shame he is wrong. Why does Slater make so much of his stuff up?

    Someone please, give that man a job so he can contribute to New Zealand society.

    Surely there is a sheltered workshop out there that can help?

    At least Kiwiblog, who made the same inaccurate claims, corrected themselves the night before.

    So Garner says that as claims made by Whale were inaccurate it “brings into question the credibility and accuracy of all his other blogs”

    I wonder if the same standard applies to TV3. Do they always apologise and correct any inaccurate reports?

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