Queensland Police

March 9th, 2012 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

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When I told them I was moving to Queensland, all my Bananaland mates, includung the conservatuves, had one piece of advice: Watch out for the Queensland Police.

“They’re aggressive, unpleasant, corrupt and a pack of bastards” one wrote me. And he is a policeman!

Since then I have had three meetings with the Maroons in blue.

No1: Shortly after we arrived in Brisbane, my teenage granddaughter and two of her mates asked me to take them to Subway for lunch. The carpark was tight and slightly uphill. Backing out, my towbar accidentally touched the bumper of the car behind.

I got out, spoke to the other driver who inspected his car and declared there was no damage done. We shook hands and were both about to leave when some scruffy character in jeans and a sweat shirt demanded to see my licence. He was a plainclothes policeman, he claimed, flashing a gun and a warrant card.

And so he was. He breathalysed me and warned that, technically, I was an unlicensed driver (a NZ licence is valid in for only four months).

The other driver intervened, saying that no damage had been done, and was warned he would be arrested. Finally, unable to catch me for anything, the officer stalked away.

No 2: My wife and I drove north of Brisbane to Gympie, a pleasant little town a couple of hours away. We found a restaurant and settled in for lunch (I was then thrown out for not wearing shoes, but that’s another story). We settled in at a second eating place where the staff didn’t care whether I was barefoot or not.

We had a Leisurely meal, with a cocktail to start and shared a bottle of wine. Then started to drive back into town.

On a four lane motorway. most of it very straight, my wife was pulled over for exceeding the speed limit. Speed limits in Queensland are crazy, one moment the limit can be 120kph, then 100, then 110, then back to 120 again.

The cop declared my wife was just under the limit, but still required her to travel with him to the cop shop for a blood test. I was left to follow them in our car. Interestingly Mr Plod never asked ME if I had been drinking or even if I had a licence.

I gave up trying to keep in touch with his police car, which weaved among the traffic, sometimes excdeeding 140kph.When I finally found the police station this prick was waiting for me, demanding to know why I took so long. When I told him, he shouted: “Nonsense, you don’t know you’re talking about.” He then demanded I not come on to police property!

As soon as he had disappeared inside I went hunting for a superior officer and found a very friendly acting Senior Sergeant who took my complaint.

Leaving the station, I bumped into the Senior Constable again.

“Your wife was very lucky,” he snarled, “She was just under the limit.”

“Well, you’re not so lucky,” I replied, “I have just laid a complaint about you.”

“Won’t do you any good. We’re bulletproof,” he boasted back. He then refused to show me his warrant card and when I tried to shake hands with him asked me: “Why should I shake hands with the likes of you?”

It took several weeks for my complaint to be acknowledged. Then I received a curt letter saying it had been investigated, no further action would be taken, and the matter was closed.

I wrote back, stating it was far from closed. I asked how the investigation was conducted, who was interviewed and why I was not spoken to by the investigators. I received back a second copy of the first letter.

Weeks later, someone apparently decided this was not quite good enough and wrote to me again. This time I was told the constable had been interviewed, my wife questioned (she was sitting in the back of the car and had no idea how fast it was going). The letter then said the constable could not possibly have been speeding if you compared the distance he travelled with the time he had taken.

This evidence, of course demonstrates only the average speed, part of the journey was through a built up area!

No 3: I was stopped by a cop, a good one this time, for having expired registration (“rego” , of course in Australia). He approached me armed with a large screwdriver…..

Having yet to become used to police carrying guns, I had this vision of being stabbed to death, rather than shot down. But no, all he wanted to do was to remove the number plates. It cost me $750 in fines, another $350 to reregister the car, plus $70 for the Australian equivalent of a WOF.

The policeman also mentioned I was an unlicensed driver and to “get that fixed some time”.

Cripes, this is a crazy country!

I must say that I often think we don’t realise how lucky we are with our Police.

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45 Responses to “Queensland Police”

  1. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,903 comments) says:

    All trained in the Russ Hinze police academy.

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  2. kowtow (8,454 comments) says:

    I’d say the author is a fucken menace.

    Can’t reverse,drinks and drives and doesn’t pay his registration!

    And then whinges to the world about the cops in a foreign country. FFS.

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  3. Nostalgia-NZ (5,199 comments) says:

    Can’t be overlooked that everything the guy is moaning about were things that he or his wife were in breach of, bumping another car, incorrect licence, speeding, marginal drink driving and he thinks it’s a crazy country. The cops might not be great but this guy was a walking citation.

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  4. jackryan (34 comments) says:

    I think its more bad luck than every cop in Queensland being corrupt. Oh and also not having your registration paid might have something to do with it. Also maybe speeding. Probably hitting a car might have been a problem. But I’m just guessing. Lived in Brisbane most my life and never had a problem. The only interaction was being involved in a car crash, my fault actually. Cops came cause the car was a write off, I explained what happened (blind spot on a corner) and they said be careful next time and left. Later on they changed the road layout to stop it.

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  5. rightmakesright (12 comments) says:

    NSW is not much better, yes admittedly the guy should probably have updated his license and paid his Rego etc, however the police are out to get you at almost any step. I would never drive here without having a valid rego. You have to leave your car on the side of the road and not drive it further until you have paid it – even if its a day overdue. You will get booked for doing a U-Turn, even if its not illegal, they call it dangerous driving, especially if you do it on a public holiday, or over xmas/new year.
    The police are corrupt and heavily unionised all over Australia, they very quickly close ranks.
    However I am thankful I don’t live in Victoria, you WILL get a speeding fine for doing 55 in a 50k zone, or 105 in a 100k zone. It makes it perilous to drive around Melbourne staring at your spedo making sure you don’t go over 50.
    Whilst I wouldn’t say they are corrupt, they have been driven by left-wing governments piling on legislation, banning and taxing everything in QLD, NSW & VIC. They have LARGE quotas to meet.
    In NZ I would think nothing of going to the pub and having two or three beers (with dinner) and driving, whereas here the drink drive limit is so low that I daren’t have a rum and raisin ice cream before driving. Because I will lose my license which I need for work.

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  6. East Wellington Superhero (1,151 comments) says:

    Most (if not all) of my experiences with Queenslanders have been good (I can’t think of any except an ex-girlfriend). Maybe Peter Freedman show just pay his fucking rego and get an Aussie licence like the rest of them. Idiot.

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  7. East Wellington Superhero (1,151 comments) says:

    I mean seriously, who goes out for dinner with drinks, that requires driving on the motorway, and doesn’t wear shoes. Who is this guy?

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  8. paul henry (49 comments) says:

    Two things leapt out at me: Pretty unusual for any licensed premises to allow someone in barefoot; why on earth would you want to shake the hand of some prick who’d just stolen your wife?

    I once had an expired rego on a NSW plated car in Brisbane, was driving through Tingalpa and got pulled over. There goes a thousand dollars I thought. One cop came up to my side, the other came to the passenger side, right next to the rego. I jump out of the car with my license (Victorian P plate, no P plates showing) and my Holden Kingswood starts rolling away with my two passengers as I’d forgotten the handbrake! “Hey-aye-aye’ yells the copper. So I grab the hand-brake, my passengers lurch forward, I show the copper my license, woman copper next to the rego looks on, cop looks at my license says “alright mate, take care” and off they go!.

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  9. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    As a journo I knew hindtrds of cops, of whom the vast majority were great people doing a hard job to the best of their ability. There were a few bad eggs. This is inevitable in any profession.

    It isn’t the duds that disturb me, but the way the entire force, egged on by Police Unions desperatelt try to cover their misdeeds up.

    NZ Police, I hope, learned a lesson from Steve Rickards. Queensland cops don’t seem to have learned anything.

    When we dirst arrived here it was revealed that police at the Gold Coast were selling pot over the counter. A police sergeant who killed a man in jail by beating and kickng him till his kidneys burst was cleared and remains in the force.

    kowtow, what do you think of the actions of the police involved? Are they a “fucken menace”?

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  10. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    In NZ driving without a licence is considered serious, druvung an unregistered car isn’t. A much more sensible approach surely.

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  11. redeye (629 comments) says:

    When I returned to this country after 30 years in Aust I was told by a cop ticketing me for 108 that I had 12 months to convert my license over.

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  12. straya (80 comments) says:

    “In NZ driving without a licence is considered serious, druvung an unregistered car isn’t. A much more sensible approach surely.”

    Confirms my suspicions that you are a complete prat.

    In Australia, when you pay your registration, you also pay your compulsory third party insurance, which is the compulsory scheme covering personal injury arising out of motor vehicle accidents. If you haven’t paid your rego, then you haven’t paid this insurance and you are driving uninsured. Now, fortunately if you cause an injury in an uninsured car the vicitim can sue the Nominal Defendant. The Nominal Defendant can also then recover the damages from you, so unless you are unconcerned about bankruptcy you might want to avoid driving unregistered cars in the future.

    Driving an unregistered car is a serious matter in this country.

    Why don’t you start complying with our laws, or just fuck off back to NZ.

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  13. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    Yep, wonderful system they have in Queensland, cop kicks an abo to death and is found not guilty by an all white jury and judge.
    When the abos on Palm Island rioted the brave Queensland coppers wanted the Aus army to deal with it.

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  14. Bevan (3,924 comments) says:

    The only thing I can agree with in that article is the crazy speed restrictions. There are barely any signs on the roads to tell you what the limit is. 110 km/h zones that drop down to 70km/h with no warning (and careful – if you are still traveling at 110, that’ll be $990 and yeh license for 6 months)…. Built up areas that could be either 60, 50 or 40km/h – if only you could find a speed sign to tell you! Different speed limits in some areas at night, with no sign to inform the driver.

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  15. Bevan (3,924 comments) says:

    Why don’t you start complying with our laws, or just fuck off back to NZ.

    Nah, we like being up in your country taking jobs off your kids. Cause we know how much it pisses you off.

    Plus if we left, half the businesses here would fold, even the Aussie bosses I have know the typical Aussie is too fucken lazy to work, thats why the place is full of Kiwi’s and Saffa’s.

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  16. Longknives (4,742 comments) says:

    I think it speaks volumes of Mr Freedman’s character that he would go to a restaurant in bare feet.
    The same sort of moronic character that screams “Police Corruption” when his wife is (shock,horror!) breathylised after a few drinks…
    Don’t want to be breathylised? Don’t drink and drive pal.
    This character needs to grow up and take some personal responsibility….He has been the master of his own demise in each of the scenarios mentioned.

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  17. cha (4,010 comments) says:

    My first trip away was in 1973 to Byron Bay in northern NSW and before we left for places further north we were told by the locals that the NSW cops were pussies compared to those in Queensland and we were warned about their thuggery.

    They were right and a quick google tells me that nothing’s changed in forty years

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  18. Wagon (1 comment) says:

    Considering the Northern Territory is the only jurisdiction in Australia with a speed limit higher than 110km/h, I’m not surprised the Queensland police officer was pulling them over if they think that: ‘one moment the limit can be 120kph’. Another example of the author not bothering to learn local laws and responsibilities.

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  19. RF (1,396 comments) says:

    Must admit that any experiences I have had with the Aussie Police have been great. Maybe I was lucky. You know where you stand with them and if the shit hits the fan they deal with it on the spot. No PC crap or waiting for back up from a already overworked understaffed Dept. Straight in boots and all so if you do not want to do time, don’t do the crime.

    I know a couple of Kiwi cops who have gone over to Queensland and joined the Police there. Their only regret was that they did not go over earlier.

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  20. adze (2,126 comments) says:

    Funnily enough the barefoot thing stood out for me too; makes me think of someone like Phil Ure. :) Also letting rego expire is dumb. But if his story is true the cop was certainly an asshole and possibly corrupt.

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  21. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    lmao who the hell is this guy?

    how does he get to do guest posts?

    hope the aussie cops pepper spray you when you next break the law

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  22. Colville (2,268 comments) says:

    Funny that the guy moans about the Cops doing the job they are paid to do and yeah the bare feet thing in a restaurant wtf is up wif dat?
    That said, about 10 years ago when I went over to Cairns to visit a mate and go on a live aboard dive trip with him the first thing he said to me was ‘if your pissed and a cop tells you to stop then stop (he meant when I was walking home etc) or they will catch you and beat the fu*k outta ya. As I am white at least I didn’t need to worry about getting shot !
    We proceeded to get on it from Sunday lunch till Tuesday early hours, hell of a birthday bash! :-)

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  23. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    The reasn we hadn’t paid the rego is because it is expensive and we didn’t have the $s. Finally had to get an advance from Centrelink.

    When I left the first restaurant there was a diner sitting there with nothing on his feet and no-one said a thing.

    Then he was only six months old.

    Wagon, bullshit. There are roads in Qland with 120 kph limits.

    WTF is that about going into a rest aurant barefoot having some indication of my character. Some right wingers DO clutch at sraws.

    Interesting is that when the cops take your plates away they give you a permission ticket to drive home. Then tell you you have to get a cert ificate of roadworthiness. How the f- do you get that if you’re no supposed to drive the car?

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  24. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    It;s not just Aistralia. L Hutt cops used to sit at the top of the Wainuiomata hill, do some local a ticket or two, and then catch them again at the bottom.

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  25. Nostalgia-NZ (5,199 comments) says:

    Good one Pete, if them cops were fair they would have batoned that baby for not wearing shoes at 6 months of age or a least given it a breathalyser test in case it’s mother had been breast feeding it milk.

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  26. Longknives (4,742 comments) says:

    If you can’t afford the rego then don’t run a bloody car…You can obviously afford a bottle of wine or two though eh?

    Honestly- this childish Anti-Police rant is the least creditible thing I’ve ever seen on Kiwiblog….

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  27. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    Okay I won’t run a car, then. Could you come and give my invalid wife a trip to the doctor, the chemist and the hospital? Thanks.

    You can buy wine here for $2.90 a bottle.

    And its credible, not creditible.

    Dime, what about the cop who broke the law? Should HE be pepper sprayed?

    Police corruption is endemic here. Invesigators in NSW tried for years to break the corruption of Kings Cross police who were being paid off by brothel owners. Police Commissioner swore the KC cops were the cleanest in Australia.

    Finally the investigators broke the case and planted a camera in an officer’s car. It clearly showed one officer being given a fistful of money.

    Of course, when he appeared before the enquiry, the cop claimed to be squeaky clean. When shown the video he didn’t turn a hair.

    “That’s not me” he lied. “It’s some actor pretending to be me”.

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  28. labours a joke (442 comments) says:

    ..and sort ya grammar and spelling out..

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  29. wreck1080 (3,907 comments) says:

    I’d concur about the varying speedlimits.

    I was pinged in Queensland for exactly the same thing , driving along a motorway at 100kph, and the speed limit inexplicably changed to 70 but I had not noticed the sign (nor was I expecting one).

    Think of driving the southern motorway in auckland, and the speed limit fluctuates between 70 and 100.

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  30. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    Can’t help but think that there would have been no crap experiences if the law hadn’t been broken in the first place.

    No Rego? Drink / driving? Backs into another car in a carpark? Un-licenced driver? FFS – how old is this moron?

    Probably best for him to just pay the fines and sort his shit out if he doesn’t want an action replay.

    In any event, he should pay the rego / acknowledge that he can’t drink and drive / learn how to drive / get a QLD licence and stop bleating.

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  31. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    When members of the right stoop to personal abuse and namecalling you know they have no arguments left and no brains to think of anything new. You completely miss the point.

    I’ve no problem with the consequences of breaking the law. I do have a problem with smart arse young cops swaggering around carrying a gun, ignoring the laws, behaving like idiots and being supported by both their union and their superiors. Get it now?

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  32. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    “I’ve no problem with the consequences of breaking the law……”

    Sure, Peter. Of course. I should have noticed. :D

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  33. Gulag1917 (915 comments) says:

    Australian police will pounce on any violation of the road codes so know the road code and don’t break it. They have not changed in thirty years and no change is forseeable.

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  34. Longknives (4,742 comments) says:

    “I do have a problem with smart arse young cops swaggering around carrying a gun, ignoring the laws, behaving like idiots”

    Sounds to me like the cops were just doing their jobs (Breath Testing/Writing tickets for no Rego etc) and you simply can’t put you hatred of police aside and grow up!
    So was your complaint that the cops carry guns or was it that they breathylised your wife?? You are so blinded with Anti-Police rhetoric that you can’t even construct an argument and tell us what your problem is…

    This is the most moronic drivel I have ever had the misfortune to read on Kiwiblog.

    “When members of the right stoop to personal abuse and namecalling you know they have no arguments left ”
    What about all those childish names you called the Police Officers in your story Peter?

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  35. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    LK, fair cop in your last para though I am not of the right.

    If you bothered to read my previous posts you would see I am not “anti cop”. That’s a convenient label which saves you having to think.

    Admit I do find it hard to see cops with arms, particularly young ones. It is an encouragement to shoot first.

    My complaint is largely against a cop who picked up my wife for d/d (nearly), allowed me to drive without even bothering to test me or see my licence, then broke speed limit, lied and got away with it.

    The older cop who stopped me over rego could not have been more professional. There were four charges he could have laid, he only laid two. Nice guy and a credit to the force.

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  36. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    Wagon, bullshit. There are roads in Qland with 120 kph limits.

    Which roads? The open road speed limit in Queensland is 100km/h with posted limits on some roads 110km/h.

    It’s pretty easy to keep your car registered in Queensland, you don’t need to get a roadworthy certificate (WOF equivalent) unless you are changing the registration into another name (ie you sold the car). At best it is foolish to let your rego expire, since the RWC is much harder to get than a warrant unless you know the mechanic. I have little sympathy.
    I also have no idea why the coppers would haul your wife off with a BAC < 0.05%. They normally just let you get on your way. Unless there's something else you're not telling us.
    And why and how are you able to get Centrelink? Are you an Australian citizen or permanent resident? Because if you're in Australia on a SCV (the visa that kiwis get automatically) you're not entitled to centrelink. How can you afford to go out to dinner if you're on Centrelink?

    Why don't you have a job?

    If you see the results of some of the incidents that happen to coppers you can understand why they are all armed. It was only 6 or so months ago since a cop had his face blown off by a robber with a shotgun during a robbery in Helensvale, leaving behind a pregnant wife and a 2 year old. The other cops attending didn't shoot the offender, they apprehended him intact, but you can rest assured that nobody in Queensland would have shed a tear if there was an accidental discharge into his temple. If you ask me they were very restrained.

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  37. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    Oh yeah, I went to the races once and was drinking mid strength all afternoon, with no food. I tested my BAC on the breatho and was 0.045% – still legal to drive. There is no way that I would have contemplated driving after the amount of beer I had consumed, yet I was still legally able to do so. The BAC in NZ is 0.08% meaning you have to be very drunk before you’re driving illegally.
    I don’t disagree with the idea of lowering the legal BAC in NZ to be in line with Australia but it should be an evidential based approach – and I’m not sure the evidence would support the change.

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  38. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    Gazz, we needed a roadworthy certificate because the car had to be reregistered, We went to a guy in the country who had been recommended by a friend. He looked at the mileage, checked the engine and chassis numbers then said: “Is the car going okay?”

    I said it was so he ticked all the boxes, gave the forms back to me and said: “That’ll be $70 please”.

    We could afford to eat out because we had sold our home in Wellington, paid six months rent in advance, bought all the things we needed and had a bit left over. We don’t go often now. I don’t know why my wife was taken back t the cop shop, made no sense to me, either.

    I want to work,. but am not allowed, Neither is my wife, We both have disabilities. I have written a piece about mine which hopefully David will use soon, it will make things much clearer. We are permanent residents.

    I get the heebie jeebies seeing kids as young as my grandchildren carrying guns. I don’t know about Australia but in the US most cops who are shot get it from their own gun, not from a perpertrator.

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  39. jackryan (34 comments) says:

    So Peter 7 out of 56 is most? Look at the stats first before guessing. From the FBI stats for year 2011.

    Of the 56 victim officers, 38 were wearing body armor at the times of their deaths. Sixteen of the victim officers fired their own weapons, and seven officers attempted to use their own weapons. Seven victim officers had their weapons stolen; seven officers were killed with their own weapons.

    Any other memes you want to discuss?

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  40. Nostalgia-NZ (5,199 comments) says:

    Peter, have you ever considered entering a disability contest with jackryan?
    I know he’s got you beat hands down but it could be a bit of fun.

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  41. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    jack, before getting picky next time try using more data than the preliminary figures of just one year. Some people will do anything to get away a cheap shot.

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  42. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    Thanks Nostalgia. I’d bet his Dad is bigger than my Dad as well…………….

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  43. jackryan (34 comments) says:

    Nostagaia, must be my disability but I can’t fathom what you are on about.

    Peter, your the one who made the statement. It’s really up to you to prove it. But from 1991 to 2000 in the US 644 cops were killed with 51 being shot with their own weapon.

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  44. Nostalgia-NZ (5,199 comments) says:

    jackryan.

    I think Peter is having some fun. Did you miss his one about someone else not wearing shoes in that restaurant. and that they were 6 months old? So what if his statistics are a little wrong about american cops shooting themselves? Not that I really need to know, but I’m a little interested in how many american cops shoot themselves in the foot or in their privates? Seeing you’ve got all the figures maybe you’d like to less us know.

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  45. Peter Freedman (127 comments) says:

    Thanks jack that is a much more reliable figure. I stand guilty of hyperbowl. My apologies.

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