Can anyone work out Labour’s position on Christchurch

April 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

But in a speech to the Employers Chamber of Commerce in Wellington this afternoon, Dalziel lashed out at both the Government and the council.

Everyone but Lianne is incompetent it seems.

“Without a layer of governance between the Minister and the recovery authority we have decisions being made by Cabinet, implemented by bureaucrats and undermining the last remaining democratic institution in Christchurch – our city council.”

So ’s policy is that there should be a Board for ? So the Minister appoints a Board that appoints a CEO, and all decisions go from staff to the CEO to the Board to the Minister. Yes, that will speed things up.

The council itself had not responded properly to the shock of the either, she said. …

However, the mistakes of the council had been compounded by the Government’s response of “imposing a growing bureaucracy” which “must not replace the core functions that belong to the council – the only body that can offer democratic participation in decision-making”.

It is a strange argument that local government is democratic, but central government is not.

“The solutions to all the problems we face in Christchurch can be found in strengthening the council so that it can perform its proper function in collaboration with the citizens of Christchurch, not to usurp its role with a government department without any practical knowledge and experience of urban planning and design.”

So now the policy is to “strengthen” the Council. Can anyone explain to me, what exactly is meant by that?

Just being angry about everything isn’t a substitute for rational policy and analysis.

The new unit is seconding experienced staff from the Council. Unless one is proposing that the City Council be given the powers of compulsory land acquisition, it has to be done by CERA.

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20 Responses to “Can anyone work out Labour’s position on Christchurch”

  1. big bruv (14,141 comments) says:

    What really pisses me off about Dalziel is that she is using tax payer funded money (via her position as a MP) to campaign for the Chch mayoralty.

    Once again a Labour MP’s thinks she has free access to our tax dollars to further her own career.

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  2. Nookin (3,462 comments) says:

    She is being a complete pillock and it is impossible to identify any consistent principle unless it is “Look at me! Look at me!!”

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  3. Cunningham (846 comments) says:

    It’s simple their position is: Anything National Does = bad. That is the entire principle that Labour operates on. It just gets so tiring hearing them continually bag every single issue. Have they not learnt a thing from the ass kicking they got the last election? Credit to Shearer he is trying to come across as reasonbly positive but the rest of the Labour party are determined to stick with this strategy regardless.

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  4. RRM (10,009 comments) says:

    Yes another “layer of governance” is always the answer isn’t it Lianne?

    (Fuck’s sake, is it any wonder that no-one really notices or comments on the absence of a Labour Party in New Zealand?)

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  5. Fox (206 comments) says:

    I thought the answer is pretty obvious: make as much political capital out of Christchurch’s misfortune as possible.

    And pleading for yet another layer of local bureaucracy, whilst in the same breath complaining about the speed of the process: priceless!
    That alone should earn her an opening gig in the Saturday night lineup at the local comedy club.

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  6. YesWeDid (1,050 comments) says:

    @big bruv – Lianne Dalziel is the MP for Christchurch East and is Labour’s spokesperson for earthquake recovery, whether of not she runs for mayor at the next council elections, it is entirely appropriate that she makes these types of speeches and challenges the government, it’s what happens in a democracy.

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  7. Fentex (1,025 comments) says:

    It is a strange argument that local government is democratic, but central government is not.

    It’s not strange in the slightest. National government represents the interests of a nation, local government represents the interests of a local population.

    These can conflict and putting a nationally elected body in charge of locally owned assets is removing democratic oversight from the hands of the locals and putting it in the hands of the nations proxy.

    As Christchurch residents have no authority over Whangerei local assets people in Whangerei should have no authority over Christchuchs assets – yet they do if Christchurch, unlike Whangerei, is ruled from Wellington by representatives of people in Whangerei.

    It clearly removes democratic representation and protection from Christchurch that other local bodies in New Zealand have kept.

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  8. Ed Snack (1,926 comments) says:

    And if every other local body was receiving the same huge transfer of funds from every other district in NZ, then maybe we would expect some degree of oversight.

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  9. Lipo (229 comments) says:

    So National’s policy to speed up Christchurch’s rebuild is to add another layer of bureaucracy. The CCDU
    Here is a novel idea on how to speed things up regarding the rebuild
    How about we remove all the bureaucracy and let people build what they want

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  10. Inky_the_Red (761 comments) says:

    Bye Bye local democracy in Chch. Gerry and Zaphoid know best. Whatever the consensus come up by the CCC (yes the full 13 members of the CCC supported the draft CBD plan) and the people who live here. Throw that out and get the man who stuffed up the demolition to be in charge

    Brilliant

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  11. Alan Wilkinson (1,887 comments) says:

    “not to usurp its role with a government department without any practical knowledge and experience of urban planning and design”

    You have to be joking if you think a local government has such expertise. Full of second and third-rate brains who subsist on a big rule book without which they would be unable even to pretend they know anything.

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  12. scrubone (3,104 comments) says:

    Well someone is incompetent.

    It’s a year on, and there has been only some movement in getting new land sorted out. As someone said recently, the council should have been spending that time building houses (or making sure the private sector could build them) rather than playing sim city with the closed CBD.

    Now we have a CBD that is still closed, is a long way from any sort of implementation of a grand rebuild plan, and there’s people sleeping in cars because there’s no houses for them.

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  13. Pongo (374 comments) says:

    The woman is so far out of touch it’s tragic. People in ChCh don’t give a flying stuff about expensive convention centers when they have nowhere to live and the council won’t consent new land.
    I have been dealing with CCC on a change of use consent and I am out of pocket 30k 12 months down the track and now when I was at the finish line some numpty has decided that… Well I can’t even begin to describe it but they have pulled out an obscure 10 word sentence in a policy doc supersedes their rules. Fuck them the place will never bet re built and we are pulling our next project.

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  14. Nookin (3,462 comments) says:

    Inky
    What part of the plan was thrown out?

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  15. big bruv (14,141 comments) says:

    YesWedid

    The very fact that you felt you had to rush in to defend Dalziel shows that I am right. She is using tax payer money to campaign for the Chch mayoralty.
    If that was not bad enough only a couple of weeks ago big Gerry exposed her as an MP with a massive conflict of interest, she has been waging a war to get MORE tax payer money for some Chch residents who feel they have not been treated fairly (silly really as the tax payer has been more than generous) without coming clean about how she had a claim of her own for far more than she has been offered.

    Smells like typical Labour party corruption to me.

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  16. MT_Tinman (3,256 comments) says:

    So now the policy is to “strengthen” the Council. Can anyone explain to me, what exactly is meant by that?

    That bit is simple.

    It means to fill the council with communist yes-men/women/Labourites who will not know how to think for themselves.

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  17. Steve (4,587 comments) says:

    Lianne Dalziel.
    ex Minister of Commerce
    ‘She resigned from Cabinet on 20 February 2004 after apparently lying about a leak of documents to the media, but was reinstated as a Minister following Labour’s return to office after the 2005 elections.”
    This is the same Lianne Dalziel that wants to be Mayor of Christchurch? fuck, hasn’t Christchurch suffered enough with her as MP?

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  18. RF (1,448 comments) says:

    According to friends in Christchurch, our dear Lianne is not a well person. She has lost her usual bubbly personality and it is suggested that she is not Coping very well with what’s happening around her. She hopes to unseat Bob Parker and become mayor however she had been staggering around with a wild look in her eyes muttering about the evil National Govt. Methinks she needs time out.

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  19. Henry64 (83 comments) says:

    Total negativity is the only think Dalziel and her ilk thrive in. It’s easy to point the finger and criticise but a tough job to deal with such an enormous task as we ahead of us here in Christchurch.

    I work for an engineering consultancy that is heavily involved with the design for the infrastructure rebuild. I take a regular walk around the outskirts of the red zone most weekends to take note of the ongoing progress.

    In fairness central government hasn’t gotten everything right and lessons have been learnt. No matter what they do, they can’t and won’t please everyone. Local government has been pretty hopeless in some aspects and better in others such as working to get urgent repairs done to crucial infrastructure over the 12 months plus since the February earthquake.

    Remember that it hasn’t just been two events and that’s it. there have been several major events and thousands of continuing aftershocks that have continued to cause damage to buildings, infrastructure and peoples lives and nerves.

    The politicising of the Christchurch earthquake recovery and associated events is extremely annoying for the majority of locals, as is the ongoing misdirected focus of vested interests on the wrong issues, such as the demolition of Christ Church cathedral for example and the personal attacks on those involved in the rebuild, such as Gerry Brownlee, Roger Sutton and Warwick Isaacs.

    I feel that most people just want progress and that is certainly what I’m seeing. Actually seeing I mean, not just blindly repeating some negative spin from local politicians.

    There is progress being made here, don’t believe the naysayers and negative mainstream media’s articles. Bad news sells after all. Get out from behind your PCs and have a look for yourself.

    Last weekend I took a trip from St Albans by bus via Merivale and Papanui to visit my brother for the first time in over a month. It was tremendously heartening to see the progress that had been made in that time in rebuilding of both commercial and private premises. The same goes for around the outer fringes of the red zone too.

    Take a look at this website link:

    http://strongerchristchurch.govt.nz/work/activity

    and then go and take a drive around my home town and you’ll see that the rebuild of infrastructure is well underway. It’s ramping up more and more and the housing repair and rebuild will ramp up more over time as well.

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  20. Paulus (2,660 comments) says:

    Perhaps the Government have seen the strong possibility of Lianne, and Mayoress Jim Anderton, taking the Mayoralty, and forstalled their interference in the serious side of the recovery
    Good Thinking Brownlee

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