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Lucia Maria

Oh my goodness, guys. This is not a confessional!

If Phil doesn’t want to talk, leave him alone.
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May 26, 2012 7:42pm
bhudson

Guys. I really dont want to think this of our gracious host,,,,but one wonders why else would one put up with the Phool other than comment count….? …eh?

DPF is so much more forgiving than Whale – its the liberal in him
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May 26, 2012 7:43pm
Nostalgia-NZ

mikey will have been at the rugby, at least two big hits there and little or name calling.
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May 26, 2012 7:45pm
Steve (North Shore)

Lucy, have sex and travel ok.
Phool is a cocksmoker (as whale puts it)
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May 26, 2012 7:45pm
philu

“..Porcupine spines fully erect, you bet…”

um..!..no…

i have small dog and cat curled up together on my lap…

..large dog lying in armchair next to me looking on devotedly/jealously..

..cool music playing in the background…

..a fresh/hot cup of tea..

..the boy laid a rave on me today..

..how he really gets/likes shakespeare now,,,

..its been worse..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 26, 2012 7:45pm
Leaping Jimmy

Er.

OK phil.

Enjoy yourself.

I wouldn’t be, but hey.

Soo…

what’s this thing about the license then?

You demand answers from others. How come others aren’t allowed to demand answers from you?
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May 26, 2012 7:47pm
bhudson

Nostalgia-NZ,

I don’t know why mikey bothers. Rugby is so Tame nowadays. More rules than the High Court and less biffo than a Tuhoe training camp
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May 26, 2012 7:47pm
big bruv

Dime

Is the term “rent boy” a euphemism for a bloke who smokes the cock of other blokes for money?
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May 26, 2012 7:47pm
dime

Bruv – correct.

Weak minded junkies will do anything for a fix.
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May 26, 2012 7:49pm
Steve (North Shore)

Kiwiblog is the last important BLOG that the drug fucked train wrecked loser can comment on.
Frogblog? nope.
Red Blert? nope.
Strandard? nope
Whore? yeah!!!!
The fucking idiot has used all of his options except Kiwiblog
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May 26, 2012 7:51pm
Pauleastbay

DG

It wasn’t criticism, it your time do what you want, why I got involved this morning was his preposterous suggestion that banding together a number of links and putting them on his blog was a job, I contended it was nothing but a hobby and that he was delusional if he thought it constituted self employment.

I wasn’t even nasty about it and thats when the trouble started, all of a sudden I was an ex-copper who bashed people.

He appears to be a touch sensitive to the slightest criticism, which is strange for a self appointed media mogul
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May 26, 2012 7:51pm
big bruv

Dime

It seems that you might be right.

So far we know that Phool has bashed and robbed for his habit.
We know he has moonlighted as a bus driver to feed his habit.
We know he has ripped off the welfare system for over a decade to fund his habit…

I wonder what else he has done to fund his drug fucked lifestyle?
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May 26, 2012 7:53pm
big bruv

Phool

“i have small dog and cat curled up together on my lap…”

So you can take your Dog and Cat into the Library?

Or is that another of your blatant lies?
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May 26, 2012 7:55pm
wiseowl

Leaping Jimmy posted what was one of the most important comments in recent times around 2pm.
Since then there has been a raft of pathetic drivel led by that fool ,phool and stupid unnecessary replys to his dribble.

Back to LJ.
So right and so unfortunate .The media is full of blinkered, trendy shallow reporters, who can’t see past the end of their nose.This issue is so serious it’s not funny.

Lets all ignore the facts and press on in dreamworld.
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May 26, 2012 7:55pm
philu

you have heard about the bat-cave..?.the glowing eyes..?..the cloven feet..?

..phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 26, 2012 7:57pm
nasska

I was dancing with this shelia, I had my shiny new gumboots on, I could look at the top of me gummies and see her knickers.
I said, “Oooo you’ve got red knickers on.”
I danced with another shelia, I said, “You’ve got yellow knickers on.”
I danced with the third bird, she said, “You can’t see my knickers, I haven’t got any on!”
I said, “Thank Christ for that, I thought I’d ripped me gumboots!”
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May 26, 2012 8:00pm
Steve (North Shore)

So you don’t think the resident germ needs a dealing to wiseowl?
Sure there are more important things, but get rid of the pest. It is like a vote and DPF needs to address this
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May 26, 2012 8:02pm
Griff

Kiwiblog is the last important BLOG that the drug fucked train wrecked loser can comment on.
Frogblog? nope.
Red Blert? nope.
Strandard? nope

Trator to the right
flog blog red blert and no standards are made up of
1 sycophantic mutual masturbation
2 Mindless condemnation of the right
You may think that phil dick would fit right in
you are wrong they can not stand him and in fact have baned him permanently not highly unusual as they also baned PG the ultimate fence sitter
however attempting to discern dicks politics is difficult as the bile and childish writing style mask any spark of intelligence all that remains is monkey on typewriter
lucy is the only one left that sticks up for him bless her misguided Cristian hart that will not stay even she will eventually grow tied of the incessant rubbish
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May 26, 2012 8:07pm
wiseowl

Yes Steve, philu needs to flew away and never come back.He is a blot on the landscape.
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May 26, 2012 8:07pm
philu

is this the time of night/the drunken arc…

..that those around you start getting watchful/wary..?

..crim-ex-mp..?

..lest you lash out..?

..has alcohol always made you prone to violence..?

..you really should go to a.a..

..eh..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 26, 2012 8:10pm
Steve (North Shore)

Does anyone think Phillip Ure is going to jump off the bridge?
It has got to the stage where he should start thinking about others
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May 26, 2012 8:12pm
Johnboy

322!!! Shit! 🙂
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May 26, 2012 8:15pm
Steve (North Shore)

Look at the breakdown, slow but sure:

is this the time of night/the drunken arc…

..that those around you start getting watchful/wary..?

..crim-ex-mp..?

..lest you lash out..?

..has alcohol always made you prone to violence..?

..you really should go to a.a..

..eh..?
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May 26, 2012 8:15pm
big bruv

Phool

A man with a record for violent robbery should not really be poking the shit at anybody else don’t you think?
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May 26, 2012 8:16pm
Steve (North Shore)

This sarah is ok, nz stuff
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May 26, 2012 8:17pm
philu

there we go..the ‘go-suicide!’-call..@8.12..

apparantly that will be against the law soon..

..urging others to kill themselves..

..lying kiwiblog-swine hits a new low..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 26, 2012 8:21pm
Pete George

PG the ultimate fence sitter

It wasn’t fence sitting that got me banned, it was for shaking Eddie off his crooked fence and then chasing him with palings.

Griff, what are you actually doing to try and achieve anything in politics? Are you interested in joining in?

I might write a book (or extended blog) and tell you everything I’ve been doing – and achieving – over the past year. And I’m just getting cranked up.
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May 26, 2012 8:21pm
Steve (North Shore)

inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale, roll up another Phool
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May 26, 2012 8:30pm
bhudson

..lying kiwiblog-swine hits a new low..

Well you’ve been lying all day Phil (about DG and the welfare bit). Does that make you leader of the pack (sounder)?
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May 26, 2012 8:33pm
Luc Hansen

I see Mike stuck his nose in and fucked off real quick.

You guys are sick with your obsession about an inoffensive sole dad.

I’ve emailed my good friend Bibi to come and sort you fuckers out.

If I were you, I would start checking under my car before heading out.

And watch for motorbikes getting too close!
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May 26, 2012 8:34pm
Luc Hansen

bhudson

I’m happy to get into a serious debate on Keynes and Greece etc but can you be civil?
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May 26, 2012 8:36pm
Steve (North Shore)

apparantly that will be against the law soon..

..urging others to kill themselves..

..lying kiwiblog-swine hits a new low..
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
Only urging the drug fucked train wrecks, because they tried to blame someone else
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May 26, 2012 8:39pm
big bruv

Come on now Phool.

We all know that you are the one telling all the lies.

Now…how about telling us all the real story behind the bus driver thing?

It will go much better for you if you fess up, given that both DG and myself will be ringing WINZ first thing on Monday morning it may pay to come clean now and hope that they don’t chuck you back inside for benefit fraud.
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May 26, 2012 8:39pm
Luc Hansen

Hey PeteG

If griff interests you, there is another who may, too – a fellow named Crimp. I understand he’s your neighbour. Have you been to one of his BBQs lately? Chargrilled natives on burnt toast?
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May 26, 2012 8:40pm
Nostalgia-NZ

bhudson
7.47

Check them out, at least one a knock out, the second possibly fractured sternum, same player – no 16 for the hurricanes. Not a handbag in sight. Not the injuries you want to see in the game, but both legal tackles apparently.
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May 26, 2012 8:44pm
Steve (North Shore)

Luc tries and fails
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May 26, 2012 8:46pm
Pete George

Luc, you understanding of southern geography is as bad as your judgement.
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May 26, 2012 8:46pm
mikenmild

Just legal – both right on the collarbone I reckon. Motu Matu’u – he’s quite some solid unit.
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May 26, 2012 8:48pm
Luc Hansen

Oooh, Pete, a personal attack! Woohoo!

There’s hope for you yet.
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May 26, 2012 8:56pm
double d

this has been a truly awful GD thread!
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May 26, 2012 8:56pm
Luc Hansen

Steve

Rest assured. I would never bother making the same offer to you.

You wouldn’t be Africaans, by any chance?
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May 26, 2012 8:58pm
Luc Hansen

dd

About standard these days.

Non-Philu-bashers struggle to get a word in!
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May 26, 2012 8:59pm
Pete George

Haven’t you noticed me ping stupidity before Luc?
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May 26, 2012 8:59pm
bhudson

NNZ,

Dangerous things them wanangas
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May 26, 2012 9:06pm
philu

http://whoar.co.nz/2012/why-i-stopped-being-a-right-winger/

“..A former conservative who worked for Reagan and wrote for National Review –

– says the new hysterical right cares nothing for truth or dignity…”

(cont..)

that kinda sums up many here..eh..?

..caring neither for truth nor dignity..

..just lying scumbags…

..the cream of the right..eh..?

..must make many of you proud..

..it must make others hang their heads..

..and wonder/ask…’am i really one of them’..?

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 26, 2012 9:06pm
Luc Hansen

Why would I notice that, Pete?

I tend to scroll over your posts. Nothing personal.

I have heard you see yourself as Mr Commonsense (which Bertrand Russel called the metaphysics of savages, and Einstein referred to as the accumulation of prejudices before the age of 18) but it seems to me that your intent is simply to maintain status quo, especially that of a privileged elite.

Not quite my thing.

Time to crack a wine and get ready to watch The Killing on SoHo.
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May 26, 2012 9:12pm
Leaping Jimmy

So right and so unfortunate .The media is full of blinkered, trendy shallow reporters, who can’t see past the end of their nose.This issue is so serious it’s not funny. Lets all ignore the facts and press on in dreamworld.

wiseowl thanks for the compliment. Yes its not funny. No it won’t change. Why?

I wish I knew. I really do. Surely the entire newsroom cannot be populated by those with a malicious agenda. But if not that, then why does what I said at 2:37 happen, and continue to happen?
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May 26, 2012 9:16pm
Yvette

Tame Iti has escaped from Mount Eden. The police task force for his recapture is called Tamoxifen.
Schappelle Corby’s sentence will end on September 20, 2017
IRD to target ‘hardcore’ tax avoiders – “We’ll really stick it to those little buggers delivering newspapers!”
Black Sticks wallop Argentina – some confusion over location of Faukland
Barack Obama fails to say a word as President about the fact that half of all drug arrests each year are for nothing more than possessing a small amount of marijuana, as Obama often did in his younger days.
2000 rally to save Christchurch Cathedral. God sends a 5.2 magnitude quake as a reminder of His original intention.
John Banks has finally stood himself down but can’t remember for what.
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May 26, 2012 9:16pm
Griff

Pg
there are way to many skeletons in my closet to get involved Other than the comments I place on here
Im am sorry if my fence sitter comment offended you
It was more a jibe at the inability of many of the left to tolerate dissent from the party line than you politics
Luc you find me a little of a enigma
the fact that I support the science behind global warming yet when it comes to Maori culture i am inclined to the far right
I am not racist persay I just believe most of wot ails Maoridom is clinging to the pre contact culture
the violence lack of respect and repression of woman that I have seen within those moari that I have worked or associated with horrifies me
I am inclined to take the fight against this very strenuously mostly because the PC rubbish that we are subjected to deserves a good kicking
Many maori leave these shore to escape this culture that they see as holding them down Friends of mine are included in this migration they are not fleeing any perceived racist behavior from pahkeha they are fleeing the hate criminality and violence of there own
there has been litle benefit to the maori on the street from the treaty process and the politics of separatism will do no benefit either
I have lived a life mostly in south auckland and my views are not those of the educated and insulated elite as such my views and knowledge on the subject are somewot more raw than most profess This dose not mean that I am ignorant my closes confidant is heavily involved with the coal face in education when it comes to the problems this culture causes, this again gives me true insight into the problems this abhorrent culture inflics on the most defenseless within it
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May 26, 2012 9:21pm
Pete George

but it seems to me that your intent is simply to maintain status quo

If you scroll over how would you know that? You couldn’t be much more wrong. I’m one of the few that I see trying to challenge the status quo. I’ve been told here and elsewhere there’s no point in trying.
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May 26, 2012 9:21pm
philu

“..and my views are not those of the educated..”

shit..!..who knew..!

..have you met graham..?

you two could/should form an ‘uneducated’ support-group..

phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
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May 26, 2012 9:29pm
Griff

Mr dick you confuse education with knowledge
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May 26, 2012 9:57pm
Leaping Jimmy

Look normally I wouldn’t do this, re-post something I said earlier but I do so because someone else above thinks it’s important and phil is just wasting everyone’s time, as he normally does. Also, I think it’s important, as you will read.

Again. So, apologies, but not really. I suggest the villagers get together over this issue below and we march on parliament sometime this week. Those further away than Eastbourne may need to start early tomorrow. Let’s assemble in Parliament’s garden around 10:30ish on Monday. Can someone bring some snacks? I quite like smoked salmon hor d’oeuvres myself but feel free to bring other flavours as well.

Following was in response to David Garrett 1:46 post re: 200+ page Police Tuhoi interview transcript showing why Police acted the way they did…

But hey, nothing to worry about there…the oppressive honky state has really just been engaged in an exercise in stamping on the throat of people doing nothing wrong….

What really fucks me off David about this is the entire media corps, the whole damn lot of them, every single one, insist on portraying this whole thing as being a completely OTT unjustifiable reaction from the nasty aggressive coppers who won’t even apologise.

What the fuck is wrong with the journalists that all of them, every single one of them, insist on ramming this particular perspective and nothing but this particular perspective, down our collective throats.

Does the entire media corps actually want Maoridom to swallow the propaganda lie that Tuhoi radicals are desperately pushing? It is simply outrageous that not one single mainstream outlet has ever, since this entire saga began, consistently pushed back on this propaganda lie and done its fucking job and placed the facts before the people. Facts such as this affidavit. Facts such as the reason the prosecution failed is not because of no evidence but because the law wasn’t up to the task required of it. Facts such as, real stuff happened.

Not one single mainstream media outlet has ever done this. Fuck I’m furious over this. I’m completely fucking ropable. This is because I have an acute understanding of social trends and how propaganda affects them and I can see precisely how this lie is going to play out in our society over the coming decade or so until it is woven into the social fabric and it is going to do indescribable damage to our country, let me tell you. I am talking about ramifications similar to what we have seen over the anti-nuke thing in terms of what that has done to our national perception of our relationship with America, the importance of defence and the military, and things like that. Seismic waves of that proportion are starting to be propagated here, by the media’s stance on this issue, with respect to how Maori perceive the rest of us in this country. It is not too late but it almost is, before these perceptions are burned into the fabric.

And all the media has to do to prevent this damage is to do it’s fucking job and tell the truth about it. i.e. put the facts before the people. That is all it has to do. But it’s not doing that. Instead it’s spinning furiously the falsehood and the lie. One can accept that, indeed expect that, from a proportion of the media, say left wing radio and perhaps TVNZ and TV3. But to also have it coming from the main newspapers as well shows that something is seriously amiss in the media structure in this country. When not a single newsroom in the entire country is prepared to take a consistent long term editorial stance promoting the correct truth on the right side of this issue, it shows almost a sinister aspect. Almost as if its deliberate. Because if I can understand and see the effects of propaganda on society then sure as hell those who do it for a living, must also be able to see it too. So if this is being done deliberately, it is sinister. There is no other word for it. and if it’s just happening by accident, then you have to believe every single editor in the entire country has no idea of the power of the press, and how many people buy that? But it’s one of the two. There is no third alternative.
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May 26, 2012 10:04pm
Pete George

I’ve been called much worse Griff, so no offence, I just call what I see as wrong when I can be bothered.

It was more a jibe at the inability of many of the left to tolerate dissent from the party line than you politics

Not sure why you jibed at me on that then. I see quite a bit of that at The Standard, and get clobbered for voicing “dissent” to the blog line there.

I call things as I see them, it just happens that my views coincide quite a bit with United Future policies and principles, but a lot of center-ish would find that quite easy. I work with UF a bit but most of what I do is independent. I’m also in communication with several parties and a number of MPs. My aim is to get more positive cross-party working for common good. Far too much time and effort is wasted on negative politics. We try to “fix” MMP when we should be trying to fix behaviour and focus of MPs and parties, who would abuse any democratic system if that’s what they could get away with.
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May 26, 2012 10:11pm
Griff

Sadly LJ you are shouting into a storm
The other thing I would note is a reference to paul As little hand book rules for… may be a better approach to getting this little story across
I would suggest something along the lines of turning up at parliament or a tv station dressed in camo complete with replica guns and bottles fulled with red water and corked with a rag
Another protest without some impact would do little misdirection towards the media would probably benefit as well
if you can find a few more idiots to protest I would be a starter I would need a little more time however as work needs to be satisfied first
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May 26, 2012 10:24pm
Griff

PS If you post that you Have some more involved I will ring you
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May 26, 2012 10:36pm
Leaping Jimmy

Griff I can rustle up some straw for the torches, can you take care of the pitchforks?

We’ll probably need around 100 I’d imagine.
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May 26, 2012 10:45pm
Luc Hansen

@Pete

If you scroll over how would you know that?

Ha Ha. Good gotcha. Except that I wrote I tend to…

but a lot of center-ish would find that quite easy.

ie status quo.

I rest my case. I think you are more into fiddling around the edges.

But good for you for getting involved. I’m a bit like Griff in terms of skeletons, but not so much that I need to hide behind a pseudonym.
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May 26, 2012 11:36pm
Elaycee

Anyone (and I mean *anyone*) who has read the Police affidavit and still believes that Iti and his followers are anything but dissidents and wannabe terrorists, are clearly devoid of comprehension and cognitive skills.

The affidavit should be compulsory reading for everyone.
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