NZ First MP on promiscuity

May 13th, 2012 at 2:47 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reported last week:

NZ First leader Winston Peters said the fact Mr Key was open to a potential coalition with someone who had such a belief only showed how desperate National was.

This was a reference to ’s comments on how promiscuous young NZ women are.

However listen to this recording sent to me by Matthew Flannagan of (then) NZ First MP at a Family First forum in 2007. He refers to the Durex survey (it was released just before the forum) and that it showed how promiscuous young New Zealanders are.

So for Winston to be huffing and puffing about National being desperate if they associate with someone like Colin Craig – well he should look closer to home.

Incidentally Colin Craig presented his views much better on Q+A this morning. Well worth a watch.

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22 Responses to “NZ First MP on promiscuity”

  1. Redbaiter (9,080 comments) says:

    “Incidentally Colin Craig presented his views much better on Q+A this morning.”

    Meaning he successfully countered that lies of the left wing media and others about what he had originally said I suppose.

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  2. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    Winston huffing and puffing while talking about promiscuous women. Doesn’t bear thinking about.

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  3. Redbaiter (9,080 comments) says:

    Actually, I just read the transcript of the Holmes interview with Craig.

    Its incredible that politicians still put themselves up to be interrogated by the likes of scummy little narrow minded past their use by date Marxist propagandists like Paul Holmes.

    Where’s the fresh blood? Where’s the fresh political perspective? What a bloody boring little out of date commie twat Holmes is.

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  4. Nick C (336 comments) says:

    If Winston thinks it’s ‘desperate’ to be willing to do a deal with Colin Craig, I wonder what he thinks of a politician who would be willing to do a deal with him.

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  5. Yvette (2,822 comments) says:

    A reminder of a small Winston incident –
    that last Monday November 14 he was condemning utterly as NEWS OF THE WORLD tactics the recording of the teacup tape, and three days later, afternoon Thursday November 17, he was the only person who, for his own self-advancement, was releasing details of the same tape.

    • This shows how much Winston believes the public to have a collective amnesia greater than that which John Banks has [in this case that NZ First has already stated a position on the promiscuity bandwaggon]
    • How lazy Winston is himself in doing the homework he always disparagingly mentions in the second sentence of any five minute answer he gives to any simple YES/NO question – especially the NO ones.
    • and also shows what a arrogant hypocrite he is, and how opportunism always is precedent to consistency.

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  6. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    “Winston huffing and puffing while talking about……….” [insert any topic here]

    The fact this geriatric waste of space still gets media attention, defies belief.

    Peters is as shallow as a car park puddle. With a relevance factor to match.

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  7. East Wellington Superhero (1,151 comments) says:

    Regarding Q&A this morning.
    No critical analysis of Colin Craig, just bullshit questions like ‘do you think NZ women are sluts’. What a joke.
    And that awful Deborah Morris was as bloody predictable as she was irrelevant.

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  8. tvb (4,430 comments) says:

    The Act Party made a big mistake by being a socially liberal party. They should have adopted a much more conservative line on social ills and yes that includes promiscuity. But drinking, drugs and cigarette smoking and other social issues could have got much sterner treatment. But it is too law now.

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  9. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    @tvb 4:10 pm

    You seem to think that politics is a commodity that can be endlessly modified to gain a greater share of the market.

    From where the people who founded ACT came from, social liberalism and economic liberalism go hand in hand. Even though I disagree with that position, it was a position of principle. For them, to adapt their social policies as you suggest (they eventually did to try to attract the “hang ‘em high” vote in any case) would have been to do everything that is wrong about politics – i.e what Labour and National have done for as long as I can remember.

    Political parties should develop policy based on a) principles; and b) evidence – and then attempt to market that policy to the public. If their starting position in developing policy is what the focus groups say, they are selling out their principles before they even start and risk having many policy positions that are counter-evidential.

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  10. The Scorned (719 comments) says:

    ACT made its big mistake by NOT being a socially liberal party when that could have mattered most… instead it was dry/conservative and that’s not attractive to young voters…who are the future.

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  11. pq (728 comments) says:

    Farrar say:

    ” So for Winston to be huffing and puffing about National being desperate if they associate with someone like Colin Craig – well he should look closer to home.”

    It is you NZ Nat Govt Nat who huff and puff but produce nothing Farrar,
    get ready, NZ First next election 7%. Huff and Puff Farrar,
    and you have no policy, you go against New Zealand,
    and we wish against asset sales, and we wish ownership of foreshore,
    and we will have these things,
    ‘huff and puff here Farrar Huff and Puff but already we know

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  12. pq (728 comments) says:

    want to survive Farrar? do you?,
    get ready now, coalition with centre right.
    try to be brave Farrar, try to be liberal as you say you are Farrar.
    otherwise goodbye NZ Nat Govt

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  13. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Don’t get too wound up Elaycee. Come next election we shall all know who is desperate.

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  14. mara (788 comments) says:

    It is Winston First and not NZ First, as most of us realise, so whatever what’s his name said doesn’t really matter. He is just ballast on board. I have seen our Winnie reaming out the arseholes of such ballast. er, not literally thank god. More interesting to me was Colin Craig’s appearance on Q+A this morning. Apart from a disapointingly high octave voice he was ROCK SOLID and appears to be a very quick learner. He knows the god-bothering stuff is poison and that the illiberal liberals would roast him for it. This chap IS interested in politics and we WILL see more of him. And no, I did not vote for him, but I might next time. If only to piss off the weak-kneed Nats.

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  15. Chuck Bird (4,895 comments) says:

    “ACT made its big mistake by NOT being a socially liberal party when that could have mattered most… instead it was dry/conservative and that’s not attractive to young voters…who are the future.”

    Yeah right! And I suppose ACT should have supported you deviant mate Jim Peron.

    THE TRUTH about Jim Peron and what he doesn’t want you to find out…

    http://jimperon.bravehost.com/

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  16. big bruv (13,923 comments) says:

    It is really hard to take anything a Colin Craig supporter says when in the next breath they say that NZ needs it’s own version of the Tea Party.

    As if we do not have enough bible bashing fuckwits already, the last thing we need are bible bashing fuckwits who are also gun freaks.

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  17. East Wellington Superhero (1,151 comments) says:

    @ Toad

    “@tvb 4:10 pm
    You seem to think that politics is a commodity that can be endlessly modified to gain a greater share of the market.”

    What? Like ejecting Tanczos, Locke & Bradford, and the putting on suits to pretend you’re now economists?

    Spare us your moralising greenie.

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  18. mavxp (483 comments) says:

    He (Colin Craig), came across well in the interview, despite the clearly one track minded line of questioning from Paul Holmes. Paul obviously was trying to get a controversial response from CC, and failed, time and again. He resorted to trying to tar him as being a Christian -implying all Christians are fundamentalists who act as the morality police and want to impose some kind of Christian Sharia law on others (i.e. the fear of many folks as soon as you mention Christian and politics in the same sentence). What CC said was plain sensible, and passed the test in my mind of a person of faith in politics: Don’t impose your morality on others.

    Having said all that, I think Paul was doing his usual “playing devils advocate” in the questioning. Craig needs to be able to bat away these kinds of questions with ease if he is to survive and be of use as a stable coalition partner to National.

    Craig could become a go-to person for a right of center soundbite response that the media will use, since they need people like Craig (like they need/use Sue Bradford et al. on the hard left) to create or extend a story in the headlines as long as possible. If Craig can use this position to best effect he could do well in the next election by simply getting these opportunities to speak – free party advertising, which is absolute gold for a small party. Fran said as much in the panel review.

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  19. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    Finally – someone who actually believes in something and is prepared to say what he thinks – a bloody side better than the marshmellow we are getting from Key.

    Colin Craig has real potential – and hes saying things that conservative people think.

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  20. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    Colin Craig did a very good job or promoting his actual views (as opposed to what the MSM and, sadly, this blog, falsely claimed he was saying). The emphasis is clearly on smaller government, personal responsibility and a very moderate social conservatism. The claim that he is a “Christian fundamentalist” is clearly bollocks. No surprise there as “Christian fundamentalists”, especially in New Zealand, exist largely in the delusional fantasy world inhabited by Liberals and Atheist cultists.

    I strongly suspect the the Conservatives will enter Parliament at the next election, and this interview should make it clear that there is no reason for National to worry about that, and every reason to back them.

    ACT is dead in the water, and National must have a party to its right if it it get a third term.

    I have to say I think Redbaiter has lost the plot a little with his claim that Paul Holmes is a Marxist propagandist. When speaking for himself Holmes is in fact fairly conservative and right wing, not to mention very pro-American.

    I think it is just a sad fact that the MSM encourages this kind of sensationalist, shallow hectoring style of interviews.

    The comment from Winston is just bizzarre. His party has always claimed, both in speech and in policy to a socialy conservative party. Has that suddenly changed?

    Peters seems to just adopt whatever position suits him at any given time with not a shred of shame for his anarchic inconsistency.

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  21. Paulus (2,631 comments) says:

    Colin Craig was good. So he is a Christian – not a closet one like many of our MPs.
    How many practicing
    Catholics,
    Muslims, (one I think)
    Anglicans,
    Rastafarians, (non at present)
    Ratana,
    Jews,
    are there currently in Parliament. Some of the above groups are larger than you think, but are Christian in thought and deed, same as Craig.

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  22. Michael Mckee (1,091 comments) says:

    I enjoyed the CP’s flyers in the election.
    They dealt with the very issues voters are concerned with but the big parties fart around with.
    and the MSM just keep quiet about in between the big exposes they are fed.

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