The Bill Liu trial

May 18th, 2012 at 8:41 am by David Farrar

Michael Field at Stuff reports:

A Chinese millionaire on trial in the High Court at Auckland for fraud boasted to immigration officials that he had MP friends who would ensure he got citizenship.

The high-ranking officials were stunned when then Cabinet minister approved the application one day after getting his file. They were certain Yong Ming Yan, also known as , who had been red-flagged by Interpol, stood little chance.

And what we have never heard is why Shane Jones granted citizenship over the advice and warnings of officials. Let alone why Liu got a special citizenship ceremony just for him in the Labour Caucus Room.

But Yan leaned back in his chair, with his arms behind his head, and said he was 99 per cent confident he would get citizenship, the court was told yesterday.

“He said he had a lot of support from members of Parliament … he was going to take them to China,” Internal Affairs case officer Olele Johannes Gambo said.

I don’t think one can be overly critical of MPs who advocated on Liu’s behalf, unaware of his background. The issue is the MP, or Minister, who was made aware by officials and ignored them.

Mr Gambo said that when Yan was told he could not have citizenship, he said friends in Parliament would ensure he got it.

Mr Jones, who refused to comment on the allegations last night, was named in court with former Labour MP Dover Samuels.

The court was told Yan was sworn in as a citizen within a day of Mr Jones approving citizenship.

In the Labour Caucus Room.  One can only assume he was told of the approval directly by the Minister and/or a Labour MP, who then arranged the ceremony.

Obviously the MPs involved can not comment during the trial. But once the trial is over, there can be no more dodging of accountability.

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14 Responses to “The Bill Liu trial”

  1. jaba (2,089 comments) says:

    david shearer must be wishing he stayed with the UN visting war zones in an effort to save the lives of his 2nd 50 million.
    he looks across the room and sees Cunliffe, Jones, Mallard and Little .. sigh

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  2. jaba (2,089 comments) says:

    and then the poor bugger looks around at the other MP’s and thinks OH MY GOD .. the rolled Goff and King, G Robertson, & Parker who both want his job, dead wood/has beens like Fenton, Dyson, COSGROVE, pRASAD, Horomia, Dalziel, Faafoi, Huo, Moroney and who has he got left to help him .. Mauta, Curren, Hipkins and Ardern and whoever I left out .. good grief

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  3. hj (6,330 comments) says:

    So what did Shane Jones or the Labour Party get out of it?

    [DPF: Liu donated to a number of MPs. Not surprisingly they advocated for his citizenship, being unaware of the negative reasons against. Presumably Shane Jones was told by Dover Samuels that Liu was a donor and this is why he was granted citizenship against official advice.

    If this was not the reasons Jones did it, I'd love to hear from him what it was]

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  4. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    So what did Shane Jones or the Labour Party get out of it?

    Perhaps Bill Liu lent him a helping hand on something

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  5. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    loL, yeah Shane probably did another hotel handshake deal

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  6. Nookin (3,033 comments) says:

    “So what did Shane Jones or the Labour Party get out of it?”

    Watched movies together?

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  7. Keeping Stock (10,088 comments) says:

    Bill Liu ran Labour Party fundraisers at the Jade Gardens restaurant in Auckland. One was rumoured to have raised in excess of $200k. Follow the money…there’s really only one conclusion you can reach. So where is Campbell Live and Granny Herald?

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  8. Michael Mckee (1,091 comments) says:

    out to lunch?

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  9. backster (2,073 comments) says:

    “what we have never heard is why Shane Jones granted citizenship over the advice and warnings of officials. Let alone why Liu got a special citizenship ceremony just for him in the Labour Caucus Room.”

    Really you mean the mass media didn’t hound him and demand explanations for every contact and the value of every gift ever made……….Indeed I seem to recall that but for Ian Wishart we would still be unaware of the covert corruption.

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  10. david (2,531 comments) says:

    As an aside we frequently hear that MPs routinely advocate for constituents on immigration matters but that they are unaware of the person’s background.

    What is it in the water in Wellington that prompts MPs do do such a stupid thing?

    I cannot slide over that and write it off as something that they do every day without putting their brains in gear and thinking “how well do I know this person? will they make a good citizen? will they make better citizens that all the people I don’t advocate for?” and only make representations on behalf of people they personally know and have confidence in.

    Otherwise they look stupid when the shit hits the fan, their advocacy has no meaning (in fact worse) and is a thus complete waste of an MP’s (hopefully) valuable (certainly expensive) time not to mention that Immigration staff have to handle the correspondence and presumably bring it up with the Minister who also should have better things to do.

    It sounds like people writing references for others without being able to back up the things they say.

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  11. Fletch (5,994 comments) says:

    From the GD thread.

    http://www.investigatemagazine.com/tgif24Oct08.pdf

    http://www.investigatemagazine.com/tgif21nov08.pdf

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  12. Nick K (1,060 comments) says:

    Where is TV3 & Granny? Trying to add up whether a gift basked for John Banks was $500 or $501.

    Completely useless they are. Completely, utterly, totally useless.

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  13. wreck1080 (3,722 comments) says:

    This is a serious cloud over SJ’s head.

    Much more so than the porno movies he ordered on the taxpayer.

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  14. double d (225 comments) says:

    agree beaker!
    i do despair at our country …. the latest poll out today puts a lefty coalition in power. yeah yeah yeah plenty of water to go under the bridge, but seriously, wtf??

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