General Debate 22 June 2012

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labours a joke

http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8488021/woman-injured-in-police-car-chase

more peaceful natives…
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June 22, 2012 4:13pm
graham

Um … how do you know they’re ‘natives’?
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June 22, 2012 4:18pm
KiwiGreg

@ Graham Urban dictionary is like an unedited wikipedia, only worse. It’s good for a laugh that’s all.
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June 22, 2012 4:32pm
mikenmild

graham
Possibly Ngati Pakeha
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June 22, 2012 4:46pm
philu

http://whoar.co.nz/2012/nationalisation-uruguays-solution-to-its-drug-problem/

“…Uruguay – in a bid to curb a narcotics-fuelled violent crimewave across the country – has unveiled plans to nationalise its cannabis market –

– and become the first government in the world to sell the soft drug to consumers.

The measure is aimed at both reducing the rising power of drug gangs and the growing number of users of crack and freebase cocaine in what has traditionally been one of Latin America’s most peaceful nations.

“We want to fight two different things: one is the consumption of drugs – and the other is the trafficking of drugs,” said the Defence Minister Eleuterio Fernández Huidobro.

“We believe that the prohibition of certain drugs is creating more problems in society than the drug itself…”

(cont..)

phillip ure whoar.co.nz
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June 22, 2012 4:47pm
RightNow

Skittles. Like pearls.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81686591/
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June 22, 2012 4:57pm
graham

Thanks RightNow.

Might I suggest the use of the “NSFW” tag in the future?
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June 22, 2012 4:59pm
RightNow

Yeah, depends where you work, and at this time of a Friday I can see it being something everyone watches while having a beer.
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June 22, 2012 5:03pm
labours a joke

“Um … how do you know they’re ‘natives’?”

I put a hundred bucks on the table and say it is. How about you? Got any balls?
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June 22, 2012 5:04pm
leftyliberal

@RightNow: or having a joint.
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June 22, 2012 5:09pm
Pete George

This is funny:

@DavidShearerMP

I read to the children at Owairaka Primary School in my electorate, and this was the book the teachers had chosen! pic.twitter.com/qeNTsEL2
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June 22, 2012 5:12pm
graham

laj: Based on what? The fact that the driver of the stolen car is from Mangere?
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June 22, 2012 5:14pm
labours a joke

They will be peaceful natives Graham. Just put ya hundy on the table. What ya got to lose Graham ? Go halves with that hand wringing sickly white liberal milkymike. I dare ya.
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June 22, 2012 5:32pm
graham

So, in other words, you have no f**king idea.

Ya could’ve just said so …
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June 22, 2012 5:37pm
graham

@ RightNow: Having a beer – yeah, I wish. Still hard at work 🙁
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June 22, 2012 5:41pm
labours a joke

Graham = no balls. Typical lefty apologist. When I show you Graeme I want an apology ok?
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June 22, 2012 5:43pm
Leaping Jimmy

An excerpt from “Official Stories” …

Every good counter-argument has one really shitty piece of official evidence to mock and deride. In the 9/11 official version, it is Hani Hanjour. Hani was supposed to have piloted the jumbo jet into the Pentagon. And let’s just have fun with it.

It’s fair to say that the official flight path defies sanity, reason, brevity, logic and physics. In the official version, the maybe five-foot-four Hanjour, after beating into submission the six foot-four ex-Navy pilot (Charles Burlingame, whose family said, “What the fuck are you talking about? That NEVER would have happened!”) took the controls of the jumbo jet liner and without air-traffic assistance, turned it back from the Ohio/Kentucky border, flew into the airspace of the seat of United States Government in Washington and directly over the most important military building in the world – without being shot down.

After passing over the Pentagon and leaving it behind, he apparently changed his mind and from 8,000 feet made a 3,500 foot per minute descending 270° hairpin turn with a 250,000 pound machine, at 400+ miles per hour, while operating the vertically and horizontally arrayed, redundantly complex flight computer and data systems on the massive 757 instrument panels. He knocked over a couple of light posts and levitated over the lawn at 530 miles per hour, finally managing to wedge the plane into the ground floor of the Pentagon, without bothering the grass stretched out in front of it, at all.

On the other hand, if you parked a 757 next to the Pentagon, rested it on its engines with its landing gear retracted, the nose would be about fifteen feet above the ground. If you wanted to make a hole in the ground floor with the wings and fuselage, the engines would have to be plowing through dirt to get there.

Which is one of many reasons why a lot of people think that what hit the Pentagon was a missile.

For example, air-traffic control watching the approaching object said that given the speed, maneuverability and that impossible turn, that it was a military plane. Some eyewitnesses reported that it exploded before it hit the building. Cordite, a military explosive, was smelled in the air by witnesses.

Whatever hit the Pentagon smashed the segment that was nearly empty, because it was at the end of a retrofitting – a reinforcement of the structure to resist – yes! Terrorist attacks.

The Pentagon hit was so suspicious to the eye that FBI swept the lawn of all evidence, then visited each of the proximal hotels and businesses for videotape of the impact. They gathered at least 80 videos that we know of – and buried them. No, we’ve never been permitted to see any moving video from the impact.

In 2006, under subpoena, the government released two video clips, running at one frame-per-second, from over-exposed, low-res video. They show no plane, only a fiery explosion. “Keep ‘em guessing,” is their motto.

But none of this matters, to the loony conspiracy theorists, does it.

Aren’t they mental.
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June 22, 2012 5:51pm
Northland Wahine

Watching Prime News… Not sure which I find more unbelievable… The total lack of respect the school kids had for an elderly bus monitor, the viciousness of their abuse or the fact it has gone viral raising her so far, 430k US in…sympathy funds?
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June 22, 2012 5:53pm
adze

Not only that Wahine, the *chans (‘Anonymous’ territory) did a flesh hunt on some of the kids involved a few nights ago, posted a lot of their personal contact details widely online, and now the kids are having to contend with the Internet Hate Machine.
I’m not sure who to feel more sorry for actually.
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June 22, 2012 5:59pm
Northland Wahine

Adze, see that’s just as bad as what they did to her. I make no apologies when I say, I’d take a belt to all their arses.
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June 22, 2012 6:07pm
graham

labours a joke at 5:43 pm:

Don’t hold your breath …
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June 22, 2012 6:16pm
labours a joke

“The driver of the stolen car, a 36-year-old man from Mangere, is being held in custody charged with driving offences and other unrelated charges.
The man had 18 outstanding warrants for arrest against him.”

Whaddya say Graeme? Eh ? Come on Graeme…shows us the money….
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June 22, 2012 6:17pm
graham

Yeah, funnily enough, I still don’t see any evidence for your claims that he’s ‘a native’.
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June 22, 2012 6:19pm
Leaping Jimmy

Adze, see that’s just as bad as what they did to her. I make no apologies when I say, I’d take a belt to all their arses.

Yes but Liarbore and the Gweens tell people this is weally bad and the 90% who don’t understand politics go along with such bollocks. This is the basic mechanism of political correctness slice the elephant at work, in action, right on that video, NW.

And the media will paint it as some kind of abherration, as if there aren’t millions of young boys just like those, thanks to the torrent of lefty PC psychobabble, which keeps coming and coming and coming. You just wait for the next generation after these guys.
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June 22, 2012 6:24pm
Steve (North Shore)

graham and labours a joke

Fighting trousers – enjoy 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iRTB-FTMdk

I will not lose hahaha
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June 22, 2012 7:55pm
nasska

Burglars broke into Winston Peter’s home earlier this week.

Police have confirmed that along with a dozen bottles of Famous Grouse, 120 portraits & 25 statues of Winston Peters are missing.
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June 22, 2012 8:00pm
graham

Steve (North Shore): 🙂
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June 22, 2012 8:19pm
Steve (North Shore)

graham@ 8.19,
bring back the biff!
Also goes for all of these poncy poofs who comment here lol. Bring me my fighting trousers – saw my fucking dick off.
The pen is mightier than the sword – the sword sorts things out real quick
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June 22, 2012 8:30pm
Yvette

The bits Phil omitted –
Under the proposed plans, the state would sell marijuana to citizens, who would have to register on a database. It would also impose a maximum of ‘marijuana cigarettes’ that can be consumed – reported to be 40 per month.
Those who exceed that consumption level will be sent to rehabilitation centres, to be financed by the government with taxes from marijuana sales.

– http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/uruguay/9347452/Uruguay-marijuana-sales-to-be-controlled-by-state.html

Guillermo Castro, head of psychiatry at the Hospital Britanico in Montevideo says marijuana is a gateway to stronger drugs.
‘In the long-run, marijuana is still poison,’ Castro said adding that marijuana contains 17 times more carcinogens than those in tobacco and that its use is linked to higher rates of depression and suicide.

– http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2162570/Uruguay-government-SELL-cannabis-citizens.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
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June 22, 2012 8:38pm
nasska

Yvette

…”adding that marijuana contains 17 times more carcinogens than those in tobacco and that its use is linked to higher rates of depression and suicide. “….

They’d have to say something like that or those running the USA War on Drugs would probably have arranged an excuse for Uruguay to be bombed back into the Stone Age. I’d take any negatives expressed in that article with a pinch of salt.
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June 22, 2012 8:48pm
Griff

Posted such a lot there Yvette you just missed the last little piece

“Out of all the drugs that are used for psychoactive effect, this is the least toxic, and the least potential for harm,” said Lester Grinspoon, associate professor emeritus at Harvard Medical School.

‘It may take some time to find a regulatory system that everyone can be comfortable with,’ Grinspoon added of Uruguay’s proposed sale of the drug.

‘There’s a growing recognition in the region that marijuana needs to be treated differently than other drugs, because it’s a clear case that the drug laws have a greater negative impact than the use of the drug itself,’ said Coletta Youngers, a senior fellow at the Washington Office on Latin America think tank.”
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June 22, 2012 8:49pm
cha

bring back the biff!

Highlights: Roy Jones Jr.
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June 22, 2012 8:56pm
Yvette

nasska – Yes, 17 is higher than I have ever seen – usually seems to be 5

Griff – The second quote was probably just ‘trolling’ or whatever you call it.

I was more interested that the limit would be set at 40 a month.
That was in Phil’s source earlier in the day, but gone missing now. Funny how that happens with some news items.

Perhaps Phil can tell us how many a month he would smoke to give a little perspective
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June 22, 2012 8:58pm
Steve (North Shore)

“Out of all the drugs that are used for psychoactive effect, this is the least toxic, and the least potential for harm,” said Lester Grinspoon, associate professor emeritus at Harvard Medical School.
Link to this is required otherwise Grinspoon just ‘said it’

Phool could say the same thing here or on his blog about ‘psychactive effect’ being least toxic, and the Stoners would believe him.
You post is full of “said” quotes Griff. I have never heard of these people. professor emeritus should have caps yeah?
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June 22, 2012 9:08pm
Johnboy

QUARANTE comme cette Yvette. 🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXybGTkh3tY
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June 22, 2012 9:10pm
Griff

Last time this quantity thing was discussed phool jumped down my throat. However for what its worth I would say a bottle of wine a day with extra for the weekend In alcohol more than enough for the average user to be satisfied 🙂

Sometimes sarcastic intent is lost
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June 22, 2012 9:13pm
Griff

Steve try goggling the guys name
Wiki for a start
Dr. Grinspoon became interested in marijuana in the 1960s when its use in the United States increased dramatically. He “had no doubt that it was a very harmful drug that was unfortunately being used by more and more foolish young people who would not listen to or could not believe or understand the warnings about its dangers.”[4] When Grinspoon began studying marijuana in 1967, his intention was to “define scientifically the nature and degree of those dangers” but as he reviewed the existing literature on the subject Grinspoon reached the conclusion he and the general public had been misinformed and misled.[4] “There was little empirical evidence to support my beliefs about the dangers of marijuana,” and he was convinced cannabis was much less harmful than he had believed.[4] The title of Marihuana Reconsidered “reflected that change in view.”[4] He has testified before Congress, and as an expert witness in various legal proceedings, including the deportation hearings of John Lennon.[5] Grinspoon worked with Ramsey Clark on a number of international marijuana related incidents.
In 1990 Dr. Grinspoon won the Alfred R. Lindesmith Award for Achievement in the Field of Scholarship from the Drug Policy Foundation.[6] The award is now given by the Drug Policy Alliance which was formed in the year 2000 by a merger of the Drug Policy Foundation and The Lindesmith Center.[7]
Grinspoon was a prominent speaker at the 1998 NORML conference in Washington, DC.
Dr. Grinspoon endorsed Washington Initiative 1068 (2010) in May, 2010.[8][9]
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June 22, 2012 9:21pm
cha

They look like and make about as much sense as Smallers neighbours from up the Whangaehu Johnboy. Them boys like their HQ utes though.
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June 22, 2012 9:21pm
Steve (North Shore)

Griff,
I tried the dope, shit, dak; it is not me. Go for it if you like.
BUT don’t expect me the TAXPAYER to fund your non-addictive habbit
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June 22, 2012 9:30pm
Griff

And this has some relativeness to the whole prohibition debate and attempts to raise the price of alcohol and tobacco to curtail use
West Coast teen bought moonshine before death
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10814842

“Sergeant Mark Harris said three 16-year-olds had bought home-distilled alcohol from Perkins for $20 each at 3am on October 7.Just over three hours later one of the youths, Buller High School student Thomas Elworthy, was dead.He was killed instantly after wandering into the path of an oncoming car as he and his friends walked home along Cape Foulwind Road.”
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June 22, 2012 9:30pm
Steve (North Shore)

“They look like and make about as much sense as Smallers neighbours from up the Whangaehu Johnboy. Them boys like their HQ utes though.”
Then you better stay away from Copperfield Road in your poncy pink suzuki swift Mr cha
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June 22, 2012 9:33pm
Griff

Who said fund. The shit grows like a weed and you are talking 1,000% profit on a 1/2 oz
Lots of lovely tax to spend on any thing you think would be good to spend tax on.
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June 22, 2012 9:38pm
cha

They’re probably driving my ute Steve. Nicked about ten years ago from outside work and gone forever.

Straight up either the Whanganui or the Whangaehu and never to be seen again.

And the main suspect was a low life hillbiily feral that I worked with who, as far as I know, still resides in Smallers neck of the woods.

And I’s a Peugeot boy now.
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June 22, 2012 9:45pm
Griff

Shit no all ya need is to drop a few bros chars and ehs then do the bro shake and you will be trying the latest harvest and swapping stoner stories
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June 22, 2012 9:46pm
Steve (North Shore)

Griff/Phool

You have to be up and working on your News Blog at 5 am, best think about some sleep before you need more Dak to fuck up Saturday’s GD
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June 22, 2012 9:47pm
Steve (North Shore)

‘Peugeot boy now.’ Thats those french cars that come with petanque balls to play with
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June 22, 2012 9:51pm
Griff

Just because yapies got dekaffeinated its no need to get all snarky
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June 22, 2012 9:52pm
Steve (North Shore)

Cute Griff
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June 22, 2012 9:55pm
cha

Aye Steve, a bit on the dear side to maintain but my 406 is by far the best ride/handling car that I’ve ever owned. And being considerably larger than the average unit the Pugs seats are the best I’ve ever driven in.
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June 22, 2012 9:58pm
Griff

As long as you don’t get me confused with phool you can call me any insult towards me my heritage (welsh) or bad habbits sic you like
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June 22, 2012 10:00pm
Yvette

Johnboy – interesting comment… took me until 40 seconds to realize it was not english. And this took me like 10 minutes to type.

Like Eddie Murphy in GOLDEN CHILD “I think you should stop smokin these scrolls before you get jumped by some rastafarians…” That size.
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June 22, 2012 10:04pm
Yvette

Juste un verre de cointreau pour chaque jour – nous sommes donc maintenant en place au 24 Août, 2023
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June 22, 2012 10:08pm
labours a joke

wheres ya hundy Graham…c’mon graham.. put ya dosh on the table fella and I’ll take it. Names will be shown later on for you. Give you plenty of time to construct an apology Graeme.
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