Tasers save lives

June 14th, 2012 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

Police say they saved a man’s life by Tasering him before he could injure himself further during a drama in Stratford.

Senior Sergeant Darrin Haenga said police negotiated with the 36-year-old man for two hours on Tuesday night before going in after learning the man was seriously injured.

Mr Haenga said that at 7pm the man initially confronted police with a machete, but had a selection of other weapons.

“He had a number of weapons strategically placed around the house, and a number of knives in different rooms,” he said.

Detective Guy Jackson, of Hawera, said normal police procedure would have been to use firearms, but it was decided Tasering the man gave him a better chance at surviving.

“Tasering this guy saved his life,” he said.

He said the man was incoherent, screaming, and threatening.

“There was knives and blood everywhere; the scene was horrendous,” said Mr Jackson, who ended up covered in the blood himself.

It is worth recalling that the both opposed tasers being available to the Police and spent years campaigning against them. I presume they stand by their position that either the man involved in this incident should have been shot, or alternatively that Police should have taken on a machete wielding man with batons.

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17 Responses to “Tasers save lives”

  1. David Garrett (7,112 comments) says:

    When the Taser is turned on – not fired, TURNED ON – video and audio recording begins simultaneously..it cannot be fired unless both are operating. This provides pretty much irrefutable evidence of who was doing/saying what and when at the time the thing is fired.

    The best example of the difference they make is comparing this recent incident with one in Christchurch several years ago. Eye witness accounts of what the hammer wielding (eventual) victim was doing – and where he was in relation to the cop when he was shot – were completely contradictory. They guy was shot. He died. Had the cop had a Taser, not only would the guy be alive, but there would be no dispute as to whether the cop acted appropriately.

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  2. Fost (102 comments) says:

    Actually there was a third option without tasers – the police, realising that the situation was too dangerous to take on with batons, and unwilling to shoot, and thus be the man’s specific cause of death, delays too long and he bled to death instead. “Oh well” says the police with a great deal of reluctance, “but at least WE didn’t shoot him”.

    Tasers can be abused, but are in fact, as David Garrett points out, much less likely to be as they have built in safeguards that guns (or batons) do not have. The best result would not have criminals/suspects that need shooting – but as the world is not a perfect place, the taser is a far, far better solution than the alternatives, ones that have much higher likelihood of someone dying (either the suspect or the police officer or even bystanders).

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  3. peterwn (3,246 comments) says:

    As far as I can see, Tasers are frowned upon by those who organise protests especially when inciting protesters to break the law. This would tend to have a chilling effect on such protesters if they find themselves staring down a Taser.

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  4. GPT1 (2,118 comments) says:

    The Greens seem to have this odd concept that the police should be obliged to provide a fair fight to those they are trying to arrest. There is no reason why police should have to get in striking distance of someone carrying a weapon.

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  5. Ryan Sproull (7,101 comments) says:

    As far as I can see, Tasers are frowned upon by those who organise protests especially when inciting protesters to break the law. This would tend to have a chilling effect on such protesters if they find themselves staring down a Taser.

    Yes, I suspect some of the opposition is based on slippery-slope thinking. We start with tasers being used only in life-or-death situations, and once everyone’s acclimatised to that, the scope of their use expands. I expect that many people who oppose tasers would say that they approve of their use in saving lives (as in this article), but strongly object to their use in anything else – but also believe that it’s inevitable that they’ll end up being used for other things.

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  6. Put it away (2,878 comments) says:

    I can’t see how it’s meant to be a good thing that this psycho is alive. Next time use guns and do the taxpayer/gene pool a favour.

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  7. Viking2 (11,417 comments) says:

    That will be ok until a. you have to pull the triger for real and answer for the consequences
    b. It’ either you or one of yours that has gone troppo.

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  8. David Garrett (7,112 comments) says:

    Ryan: Well said. The Greens are ALWAYS into “the inevitable slippery slope” argument – “its just a matter of time” they say – except, funnily enough, when it came to medicinal marijuana. In that case, the only people who would ever be using it were the dreadfully sick, for whom conventional drugs hadn’t worked; it would never ever be sold – except to other dreadfully sick people.

    And Meteria Turei got through an entire 15 minute speech of this with a completely straight face.

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  9. Longknives (4,691 comments) says:

    The Greens would clearly prefer a few Police Officers got hacked to death as they quite simply hate the Police. End of story..

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  10. David Garrett (7,112 comments) says:

    Knives: As terrible as that is to say…I think some of them at least may feel that way…they certainly are opposed to ANY toughening of the law relating to criminals, even the most violent ones

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  11. kowtow (8,324 comments) says:

    Greens and crime. This from the UK where so called animal rights activists are among the most active terrorists in the country.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9329473/Undercover-police-officer-left-firebomb-in-Debenhams-claims-MP.html

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  12. lastmanstanding (1,284 comments) says:

    The Greens not only wouldnt give a shit if a policeman was injured or murdered in fact they would clap. Thats the sum of their twisted sick mentalities.

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  13. Steve (North Shore) (4,547 comments) says:

    I am sure bullets and guns are cheaper than tasers. I do not get shot or tasered, wonder why?
    Could it be that I am not an arsehole? Could it be that I respect the community I live in?
    Just shoot the bastards – end of problem, they don’t offend again

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  14. Viking2 (11,417 comments) says:

    Oh ansd Isee the lawless lucy plea bargained to a lesser charge. One that won’t get a conviction that would stop her entering the USA.
    What sad bastard negotiated that. The Police should have stayed on their course of action. One bloody good strike like that wopuld have shut down plenty of these faux protestors.

    Bugger me she’s still a good looking woman though. :icon_twisted:

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  15. Nick K (1,232 comments) says:

    The Greens are opposing the installation of woodburners in new homes in Christhurch and the result down there is people are dying due to the cold. They are unable to pay for electrical heating; and the Greens couldn’t give a stuff as long as they fight “pollution”.

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  16. big bruv (13,727 comments) says:

    “Tasers save lives”…..bullets save time.

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  17. scrubone (3,095 comments) says:

    except, funnily enough, when it came to medicinal marijuana

    And section 59, where their law change means most parents have now broken the law and can in theory be arrested for assault and in practice have their kids taken off them for very trivial things if the CYFS worker dislikes them.

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