The dangers of boat asylum seekers

June 22nd, 2012 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

Scores are feared dead as rescuers race to save 200 asylum seekers who were on a boat that capsized en route to Australia.

Indonesian authorities were leading the rescue effort for the boat that went down in their jurisdiction about 200km north of Christmas Island.

The stricken vessel was spotted by an Australian Customs and Border Protection surveillance plane about 5pm (NZ time).

“It is believed up to 200 people could be on board, although this detail has not yet been confirmed,” Customs said in a statement.

West Australian Police Commissioner Karl O’Callaghan said about 40 people were spotted on the upturned hull, others were in the water and up to 75 others may be dead.

“We have grave fears for the remainder,” he told reporters.

What an awful way to die, drowning in the Indian Ocean scores of miles from land.

In December 2010, more than 50 asylum seekers, including women and children, died when a boat known as SIEV 221 crashed into rocks off Christmas Island.

The disaster was the largest loss of life in Australian waters in peacetime in 115 years.

And as many as 200 people drowned last December when an overloaded boat sank off the coast of East Java on its way to Australia.

Only 49 people survived the tragedy, which occurred in rough monsoonal seas on December 17.

So far this year, 57 boats carrying a total of 4006 passengers and 82 crew have arrived in Australia.

For the month of June, there have been 18 boats carrying a total of 1108 people.

The latest arrived arrived on Thursday and had 117 people on board.

I wonder how many were genuine refugees who gained asylum.

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25 Responses to “The dangers of boat asylum seekers”

  1. kowtow (7,591 comments) says:

    “Asylum seekers”, actually illegal immigrants.

    Any body who wants to seriously follow these issues should check in on Andrew Bolts’ blog.

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  2. wat dabney (3,655 comments) says:

    Any one of these brave people would be a better NZ citizen than the hoards of bludgers currently leeching off the workers.

    Yet they die trying to make a better life for their children, whilst thieving bludgers like Philu get to continue with their legalised stealing.

    What should happen is that the bludgers are herded onto the empty boats after the immigrants have disembarked here, then shipped off to Indonesia. (I’m not saying we should bash a hole in the bottom of the boat before they push off, but…)

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  3. RRM (9,434 comments) says:

    Shouldn’t this be “the dangers facing boat asylum seekers”, not the danger of them?

    If you’re desperate enough to risk your life crossing the open ocean in an old wooden POS, you’re probably pretty genuine in my book…

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  4. David Farrar (1,853 comments) says:

    Yes, the title is badly worded.

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  5. Mark (497 comments) says:

    The Labor party should face criminal charges for luring people to death, thousands have died and Labor still continues with it policies to reward people smugglers.

    The left the evil party.

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  6. kowtow (7,591 comments) says:

    I’d be very wary of classing these people as some sort of hero class.

    They’re mostly Muslim,all queue jumpers,won’t integrate and will in the main cause a lot of trouble in Australia.

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  7. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    This is so much more cost-effective than setting up concentration camps isn’t it?

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  8. kowtow (7,591 comments) says:

    These folk fly to Indonesia or Malaya and then get on boats,otherwise they would be turned around at the airport.
    It’s a huge scam.

    They should be claiming “asylum” in one of ther brethren countries, they’d fit in better.

    Sorry, the welfare system ain’t open to abuse in Indo or Malaya!!!! The Oz have “human rights” ,that can be milked by these “poor brave” folk” who would put their children at risk to get a house in Melbourne on the back of the working Australian.

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  9. wat dabney (3,655 comments) says:

    kowtow,

    The problem you are describing is the welfare state, not immigration.

    An Australian worker being taxed to provide a house for complete strangers is the problem; and they are strangers if they come from Perth or Sydney just as much as if they come from Jakarta.

    The moral solution is to end the welfare state and to open-up immigration.

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  10. kowtow (7,591 comments) says:

    The problem I am describing is the abuse of the asylum/refugee

    process,motivated by the benefits of living in a western country.

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  11. EverlastingFire (291 comments) says:

    “The moral solution is to end the welfare state and to open-up immigration.”

    So they can just arrive and start begging on the street? I’m sure living on the street in Australia is a lot more glamorous than some African shit hole, so I doubt it would affect the rate of arrival.

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  12. wat dabney (3,655 comments) says:

    So you’d be happy for them to immigrate if they were able to sign a paper waiving any entitlements for, say, 10 years?

    I’m sure a huge number would jump at the chance for that.

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  13. wat dabney (3,655 comments) says:

    EverlastingFire,

    You’d be happier if they were left to beg on the streets of “some African shit hole”?

    Why?

    Scrap the minimum wage and I’m sure many would be happy to come and work for little more than board and lodging, and even to put their children into domestic service if they consider it a better alternative to that no-future “African shit hole.”

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  14. alex (301 comments) says:

    There are no boat asylum seekers in New Zealand. This is a beat up.

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  15. tvb (4,199 comments) says:

    These tragedies will continue. Apparently this is the season for boat people due to the calmer waters.

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  16. wat dabney (3,655 comments) says:

    Alex, it’s not a beat-up. It’s a discussion of the morality of freedom.

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  17. trout (900 comments) says:

    Apparently all the survivors were men, and they were wearing lifejackets. Question: no women aboard? or not enough life jackets? The boat sank in Indonesian waters but the survivors were taken to Christmas Island rather than back to Indonesia. Why?

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  18. Komata (1,109 comments) says:

    Re: ‘The boat sank in Indonesian waters but the survivors were taken to Christmas Island rather than back to Indonesia. Why?’

    Probably because the Australians on average still essentially believe in the Christian ethic of being kind to and taking care of their fellow man, whereas in Muslim countries the locals couldn’t give a stuff, and would just as soon the refugees died – ‘not their problem’ and ‘allah’s will’.

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  19. wat dabney (3,655 comments) says:

    Perhaps it was simply the case that it was Australian search and rescue assets which were used in the operation and it was simply more efficient for them to take the rescued people to Christmas Island?

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  20. Grant Michael McKenna (1,156 comments) says:

    Still, I think it pretty sick of the Aussies to say that an island full of drowned illegal immigrants is Christmas.

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  21. thor42 (907 comments) says:

    I agree with kowtow.
    It’s almost always the case that the vast majority of these people are Muslims.
    Australia is already starting to have problems with the Muslims who are there, so I fully support them doing whatever it takes to guard their coastline and stop these people. If the UN sticks its nose in, tell them to piss off.

    Australia should have a few Predator drones flying along its northern coast.
    Not for missiling anything, but to give them really good advance warning of the next boatload of Muslims heading their way.

    Muslims bring absolutely *nothing* good to a country, and a whole lot of bad stuff. Look at the UK’s ballooning welfare bill, with Muslims having huge families there, lying around on the dole and still flooding in. Look at southern Thailand, where Muslims are doing their usual shit-stirring and terrorist activity.

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  22. wiseowl (752 comments) says:

    And look at what is happening in egypt.
    Classic case of muslims wanting to take over.
    Interesting case .

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  23. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    Australia should have a few Predator drones flying

    Done deal.

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  24. hj (6,347 comments) says:

    wat dabney (1,573) Says:
    June 22nd, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Alex, it’s not a beat-up. It’s a discussion of the morality of freedom.
    ================
    My freedom starts where yours ends.
    What about the right to live in a country that isn’t over populated.

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  25. KevinH (1,131 comments) says:

    @DPF
    An apprpriate heading for the article would be: “Dangerous Asylum Seekers”
    Back in 2001 Australian PM John Howard declined to accept several hundred refugees picked up in the Indian Ocean by the Norwegian container ship “Tampa”. That decision turned into a full blown diplomatic incident with cries of foul play being howled around the world including New Zealand’s own Green MP Keith Locke.
    As a consequence of Howards decline, Helen Clarke decided to take the refugee’s who were subsequently shipped here via Nauru. Once ensconced at the Mangere Refugee Centre the refugee’s were discovered to be mainly Afghani’s escaping the Taliban and Al Qaeda, however once checking was commenced some of the refugee’s ( 19-20 )were found to be Al Qaeda sympathisers or associates and were detained in Mt.Eden prison then subsequently deported.
    At the time of the Tampa incident the conclusion was that terrorists were using the refugee channel to infiltrate Australia and New Zealand where they could establish terrorist cells and bizarreley be funded by the host countries that offered them refugee status.
    Therefore the situation today is that host nations have to be on guard that terrorists don’t use refugee status to gain entry to their nation and it’s resources.

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