Bob Jones on teacher unions

July 18th, 2012 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

Sir Bob writes:

The role of Minister of has always been a nightmare posting. If you’re Minister of Agriculture then you’re subject to intelligent dialogue with Federated Farmers. If Justice Minister, you can wallow in the ego-inflating pleasure of issuing pompous utterances, interspersed with all-night drunken sessions with the Law Society, and so it goes.

But Minister of Education; God help the poor buggers, confronted as they always have been with embittered, self-important nobodies, as teacher union representatives invariably are.

Sir Bob continues:

Readers may consider I’m being too charitable with that description. Well, I can’t help it, temperance having been my life-long practice. But I’d be a great deal more if instead of endless moaning, the teachers’ union focused on promoting English, science and history and abandoned film studies, Maori wonderfulness, gender studies, et al bogus subjects, now so prevalent.

I’ve speculated why teacher are so ghastly when compared with other lobbying bodies. My conclusion is that they have never left the school-room or grown up and that if we resurrected corporal punishment and delivered a daily flogging to these unionists, it might produce a general amelioration.

Bob may need t be careful. If the PPTA affiliates to Labour, they’ll get a vote in the next Labour Leader, and in exchange for their votes may insist the next Leader brings in a hate crime law, so Sir Bob is jailed for hate speech against them :-)

In 1991, I popped over to Georgia to have a look at proceedings when the civil war broke out. One night in Tbilisi, my wife and I were guests of some university academics in an outdoor restaurant near the river. Abruptly the night erupted with explosions and for half an hour, mortars rocketed over our heads from across the river. Our Georgian friends took a nonchalant approach to this. “Relax,” they said, “it’s just the school teachers’ union bombing Parliament,” this over some trivia they were whining about.

Heh. Probably a protest against league tables.

Anyway, after two weeks here and there, we arrived at our Blantyre hotel. At 6pm I turned on the television news. The lead item was the president of the Malawian Women’s Institute carrying on about school teachers having it off with schoolgirls.

She was followed by the Malawian school teachers’ association president.

Never have I witnessed such explosive anger. He was livid and I would describe him as being white with rage, but in the circumstances that would be pushing it.

“Do you realise how little my members are paid?” he shouted at the Women’s Institute president, who began to look remorseful.

“Are you demanding my members risk their lives with you Aids-ridden lot? This is the sole perk of the job,” he exploded

Well that is a novel rationale for a pay rise.

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42 Responses to “Bob Jones on teacher unions”

  1. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    gaoled for hate speech?…..

    don’t laugh it’s not far off.

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  2. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    As far as I am aware the PPTA is not affiliated to the Labour Party.

    The audited accounts and reports on their website show no political donations.

    I think their biggest battle recently was against Trevor Mallard in 2002/2003.

    [DPF: I think you missed the word "if"]

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  3. tvb (4,422 comments) says:

    I agree with Sir Robert regarding school teachers maturity and unionists would be an extreme version. I never see schook teachers anywhere. And I do get around. Are they really that ostracised from general society.

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  4. Harriet (4,972 comments) says:

    DPF #

    What Bob Said is funny.

    But what was in The Australian today by Janet Albrechtsen was funnier……much much funnier…..she took down the feminists with all her usual charm. ….the metrosexuals at the ABC too….

    ‘….the lasting legacy of feminism is the metrosexual……the real ball breakers at the ABC are women…where there is PC all the men are metrosexuals….50 shades of grey sales figures suggest that real women are over metrosexuals….they’re bored….they wish to be spanked….some men do to :cool:

    on and on it goes……brillant stuff……………………….BTW……..the entire PC NZ public service….. :cool:

    [Sorry but I can't link it due to the paywall.]

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  5. RRM (9,924 comments) says:

    Genuine LOL at the pot/kettle/black moment where “Sir” Robert comments on someone else’s immaturity.
    Another genuine LOL at the moment where a property speculator characterises union organisers as “nobodies”.

    [I tend to agree with him about film studies & maori wonderfulness lessons.]

    But in general, what a self-aggrandizing fuckwit that man is…

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  6. Yoza (1,875 comments) says:

    I’m always stunned by the amount of publicity Bob Jones receives, I have never read anything he has written or heard anything he has said that had any value. Bob Jones should leave the writing to his brother.

    This obsession the far right has with teachers says more about their own personal childhood experiences than the targets of their vitriol, “My conclusion is that they have never left the school-room or grown up and that if we resurrected corporal punishment and delivered a daily flogging to these unionists, it might produce a general amelioration.”. This little diatribe goes a long way to explaining the behaviour of so many of those British Tory MPs who are regularly outed as the submissive subjects in the B and D sessions they pay to attend.

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  7. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Anyone see Sir Bob’s rant during the pay-per-view boxing a couple of weeks ago?

    To be fair he was drunk (slurred speech and holding a glass of red wine), but that is no excuse for racist comments.

    I don’t believe he is really racist or anti teacher at heart, just an attention seeker.

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  8. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    Well, with regards to corporal punishment, at least we know that Jones practises what he preaches.

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  9. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    I think the clip of him punching a camera man while fly fishing is somewhere on You Tube.

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  10. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Bob Jones on women:

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  11. Moist_Crackhead (3 comments) says:

    RRM- LoL at your misguided and misinformed attempt to dismiss Bobs point of view because it contrasts your own pathetic socialist ideals. “A property speculator” is someone who buys and sells property. Bob rarely (if ever) sells, he holds long term, which is why he owns over $1billion of commercial property. I wouldnt expect you to comprehend this difference, which is why he is worth a lot and you no doubt very little. His ideas are generally hilarious and undoubtedly well above your level of intelligence. Go to the standard-as the only “fuckwit” is yourself ;-)

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  12. labrator (1,850 comments) says:

    self-ag·gran·dize·ment
    n. The act or practice of enhancing or exaggerating one’s own importance, power, or reputation.

    Never a feeling I’ve gotten from him.

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  13. tom1980 (44 comments) says:

    Looks like the PPTA flash mob has been mobilised. Shouldn’t you all be teaching?

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  14. Paul Williams (878 comments) says:

    Yawn, Bob trotting out gags from 1991. I know you extracted key quotes, but did Bob actually have a point or was he just pulling it out to show he’s still got one?

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  15. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    It is still school holidays IF you work in a private school.

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  16. flipper (4,067 comments) says:

    Moist and Labrator… Agree .

    Anyone who knows Bob, and that is, really knows him (I have for more 30 years), to the point where he comes to my home for dinner…. knows that intellctually, he would squash IDIOTS like RRM, Yoza, Miken et al. What is more, he would enjoy the experience and invite the world to watch and share his enjoyment.

    As for the comment on boxing, Jones is probably better informed than any other New Zealander. He also does a marvellous “pisshed”, just to piss off the wowser idiots /wankers that shlould stay with the sstandard (with small S).
    Get a life you fools !

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  17. Manolo (13,780 comments) says:

    Well said, flipper.

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  18. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    You are quite right flipper; Jones probably is better informed about boxing than about the teacher unions.

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  19. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    @Flipper: +1

    Unfortunately, a ‘debate’ between Sir Bob and the muppets you mention, wouldn’t draw a big audience… it would be a case of an intellectual heavyweight versus a few union hacks / bantamweights… with Sir Bob winning on all counts.

    Oh Hamnida – for the record, Jones didn’t punch the cameraman – that wouldn’t have been fair as the cameraman would have been holding…. ah, the camera. Rather, Sir Bob smacked the snout of TV1’s Rod Vaughan, who had accosted Jones whilst he was fishing in the Turangi River). IIRC, it was a nice left jab, too. :D

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  20. schoolsforall (2 comments) says:

    Why would anyone bother banning poor pathetic Bob Jones, clearly in the late stages of dementia. It’s far better to let him carry on entertaining the juveniles who find him amusing.

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  21. MT_Tinman (3,187 comments) says:

    Fantastic stuff.

    Getting all the commies hot and bothered deserves praise at any time, doing it non-stop as Sir Robert does is saint-like.

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  22. big bruv (13,904 comments) says:

    Sir Bob is a national treasure. The man has always been delightfully un pc, his views on females in particular are always spot on.

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  23. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    Jones on the teacher unions is about as relevant as the Pope on contraception, David Bain on family life or Taito Philip Field on corruption.

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  24. mudrunner (91 comments) says:

    Jone’s gems every time. Wouldn’t it be great to have education educating meaningful education.

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  25. Manolo (13,780 comments) says:

    I wish there were many more Bob Jones in today’s NZ. People prepared to speak and raise their voice against the insidious PC crap that covers the whole country.

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  26. Steve (North Shore) (4,563 comments) says:

    How the hell does Jones get away with it?
    If I said “the only way Women will have equal rights would be to give up a few” then Germaine Greer types would be at me.
    If Jones said that, he would just tell them not to be so bloody stupid, and that would end there.

    Oh yeah, you Women should become equal by sharing some of your rights ROFLMFAO :)

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  27. Bob R (1,375 comments) says:

    ***Jones on the teacher unions is about as relevant as the Pope on contraception, David Bain on family life or Taito Philip Field on corruption.***

    Err, I don’t think your comparison makes much sense mikenmild. Also, if you’ve read many of Jones’ books you’d know he is actually sympathetic to unions. He isn’t just mocking the teachers union because they are a union.

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  28. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    Okay, so he is just unsympathetic to teachers?

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  29. MT_Tinman (3,187 comments) says:

    Jones has no need to mock teachers, as this thread proves every time they touch their computer keys they mock themselves .

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  30. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Mock Teachers. That’s a very good name for them MT_Tinman! :)

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  31. Harriet (4,972 comments) says:

    Manolo#

    “….I wish there were many more Bob Jones in today’s NZ. People prepared to speak and raise their voice against the insidious PC crap that covers the whole country…”

    Don’t worry – just use this-

    PC – Public Cissy!

    Where ever there is PC there are only metrosexuals, all the government departments are the best examples of this, and now that we know that real women want to be spanked[50 shades of grey sales figures] PC will now soon end.

    Real women don’t get excited by Public Cissys! :cool:

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  32. lilman (959 comments) says:

    I was a BOT chair in the labour school reviews under Mallard and can say after going to the PPTA for support in educational matters was shown the door on atleast three occasions.
    Imagine my surprise when at the Election 3 people whom I spoke to turn up in the local papers as Secretary-Treausurer and that one was a media liason person for the party.
    Fucking self serving leftards.I hate these pricks with a passion.

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  33. Red Sam (122 comments) says:

    Ho hum, yet another weekly teacher bashing post from Kiwiblog that rarks up the rampant right. So predictable.

    Roberty Bob and Parata are tarred with the same brush. Who takes them seriously?

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  34. big bruv (13,904 comments) says:

    “Roberty Bob and Parata are tarred with the same brush. Who takes them seriously?”

    More people take them seriously than support the Labour party.

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  35. lilman (959 comments) says:

    Right on Big Bruv !!!!!!!!!!!

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  36. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    What a tired old tosser, Jones I mean..

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  37. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    I agree Joana – This is the kind of thing I can imagine Prince Phillip saying. We get race, gender sexuality shit-canned and a call for a return to CP, ‘so far so good’ – but surely once child-abuse and AIDS are introduced as a subject of jollity it should raise some teensy alarm bells in any right thinking person. But that’s just pc-oversensitive me, over-reacting because I need to get a sense of humour. . .

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  38. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    I think what we can take from all this is that Bob is a bit of a laugh, nothing more.

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  39. Paulus (2,627 comments) says:

    hamnida

    Private schools do the same annual hours as Public schools.

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  40. RRM (9,924 comments) says:

    Moist_crackhead, flipper;

    I hope your large amounts of money bring you much happiness ;-)

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  41. Paul Williams (878 comments) says:

    I think what we can take from all this is that Bob is a bit of a laugh, nothing more.

    That’s about it. I did wonder what his point was but then flipper showed up and the circlejerk began.

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  42. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Paulus (1,004) – Not true, although many will have similar hours overall. Sub sections 65A to 65C of the Education Act 1989 only prescribe the number of half days a state schools must be open for instruction.

    I suspect many private schools work slightly longer hours during term time in exchange for longer school holidays. This will be a decision made by their board.

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