Labour giving members the vote

July 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm by David Farrar

My Herald column is on ’s proposal to give their members a vote for leader. I conclude:

So while the proposed changes by the NZ Labour Party to give their members a vote for future leaders is, in my opinion, a good thing, I do think it is regrettable they give the unions a direct vote. It would be far better if unions just encouraged their members to join Labour directly, than give unions voting rights for the leadership.

But overall the proposed reforms for Labour should result in a stronger party for them. It will be interesting to observe the first leadership election under their new rules, whenever that may be.

 

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10 Responses to “Labour giving members the vote”

  1. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    I can see no easier way for the historic labour voters to be dis-enfranchised than having unions vote, They will have a vote and then their members will be bullied into joining the party and voting as individuals so in fact union members will have two votes.

    Helen Kelly will be an MP soon and she or the constantly laughing Andrew Little will be leader. The unions will have a lock on the leader now and forever.

    I am staggered that the current MP’s will allow this because anyone who I think is half pie human, like Damian O’Connor would be ranked 1098 on the list and unions cronies will fill the benches.

    How this will make the labour party stronger beggars belief unless your column is a huge piss take, but sadly I know its not, its a piece written by someone on the “inside’ totally removed from reality. A bit like those who said after the Eygpt take over ” the muslim brotherhood won’t get any power”.

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  2. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    Grant Robertson and the Rainbow Branch of the Labour Party cannot be pleased with this decision.

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  3. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Manolo – I think that Grant Robertson and the Rainbow Branch of the Labour Party contribute sweet fuck all to the coffers so probably got told to STFU, especially if anyone saw him and Shearer and the other dweeb wearing matching blue vests the other day (as posted by Jacinda, thanks Gal).

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  4. nasska (11,146 comments) says:

    The unions may have won back the upper hand from the gays but to get their grubby hands on the Treasury levers they have to charm a few voters. Try as I may I can’t see Laughing Boy Little or Helen Kelly going down big time with the electorate.

    They both share the charisma of last week’s fish.

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  5. virtualmark (1,528 comments) says:

    This new voting arrangement basically ensures the unions control who is leader. Which likely condemns Labour to a succession of leaders, MPs and policies who’re completely unattractive to the electorate. Pyrrhic victory.

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  6. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Very good move for Labour to give its membership a direct day in the leadership.
    Don’t the Greens have something similar?

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  7. Ross Nixon (614 comments) says:

    What does it cost to be a Labour Party member? – Wonders if some National supporters might join to ‘swing’ the voting ;-)

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  8. thedavincimode (6,610 comments) says:

    Given the fundamental nature of this change, would it be out of order for the present leader, David Whatisname, to be confirmed as leader? They now have a compromise leader who is more effectively insulated from a leadership challenge.

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  9. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    Ross – My thoughts exactly. Or a wealthy donor (eg Owen) buying memberships on behalf of 1000’s in order to install a leader who would be, ah, favourably disposed. The cost of policy would be very much reduced!

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  10. Paulus (2,598 comments) says:

    Well done Labour – best thing for the Party. Great for New Zealand.
    Kelly will screw, literally, little Little – gormless little twit.

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