Free Pussy Riot

August 4th, 2012 at 3:17 pm by David Farrar

A Green campaign I support:

 This week the trial of three members of the Russian feminist punk group “Pussy Riot” started in Moscow.

They may have been rude and they may have been offensive but the charges are clearly politically motivated and totally disproportionate to the offence. Amnesty International considers the activists to be prisoners of conscience and are campaigning to free them.

Today Jan Logie, Denise Roche and I paid a visit to the Russian Embassy in Wellington to hand over a letter saying: …

We agree with Amnesty International that they are prisoners of conscience and we ask your Government to release these young women.

Being offensive to either Putin or a religion should not result in anyone going to jail.

The three band members. Russia continues to go backwards.

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32 Responses to “Free Pussy Riot”

  1. Mike Readman (356 comments) says:

    Bring back Gorbachev!

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  2. Andrei (2,499 comments) says:

    The three band members. Russia continues to go backwards

    Not as fast as England is.

    Of course the real point is to prevent Russia sliding into degeneracy the way the west has

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  3. MT_Tinman (2,984 comments) says:

    “feminist punk group”.

    For me the Russians have it correct.

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  4. nasska (10,611 comments) says:

    DPF’s heading promised much but the subject matter proved to be a disappointment.

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  5. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    Yes, free them … because while they’re behind bars the Greens can’t dictate what they eat, how much water they can use, what light blubs they can buy, what TV content they can watch. The Greens don’t believe in freedom. They believe in oppression, but only if it’s theirs.

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  6. Jimmy Smits (246 comments) says:

    I completely agree that Russia is going backwards. Those three band members are so ugly I wouldn’t go anywhere near their pussies. These ones, however:

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  7. kowtow (7,582 comments) says:

    A few Ukrainian women had a topless protest in London against Islamic oppression of women. Roughly handled. Interesting to see what if any charges are brought.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/olympicsvideo/9447608/Femen-stage-topless-anti-Islamist-Olympic-protest-in-London.html

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  8. roball (7 comments) says:

    As Andrei said, England is going backwards quicker than Russia is. It’s almost weekly now somebody goes to jail in the mighty UK for speaking thier mind.

    Churchill most be rolling in his grave

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  9. Aredhel777 (278 comments) says:

    “Being offensive to either Putin or a religion should not result in anyone going to jail.”

    Pussy Riot prayed to the Madonna for help when they sang their anti-Putin songs several months ago. It’s nonsense that they are in jail for insulting religion, if that is what you are implying. They are in jail because they were outspoken about Putin.

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  10. Luke Mutton (247 comments) says:

    Some people are so fucking pigshit stupid I just want to puke. And I suspect that not only is krazykiwi that pigshit stupid, he also has a k missing from his name.

    This has nothing to do with the Greens polices, except for their human rights policy, but you’re too much of a useless arsehole to get that and get behind the campaign.

    This is the liberty, and possibly lives, of 3 women we are talking about, 3 women with far more balls than you’ll ever have.

    OK, I’ll accept you’ve got a blindspot about these 3, so how about showing you have a speck of humanity and join the campaign to free Alex Aan or to support Sanal Edamaruku. Or, as kowtow mentions above, support the arrested members of Femen.

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  11. Viking2 (11,125 comments) says:

    and I thought you were blogging about the riot caused by this:

    http://screencast.com/t/imlsJ6Ajp
    :lol: :lol:

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  12. Andrei (2,499 comments) says:

    Rubbish Aredhel

    They stood before the Altar in Christ the Saviour Cathedral and started with Богородице Дево, what you know as Ave Maria before launching into blasphemy where in part the words from the The Holy Anaphora “Holy holy holy” are replaced with “shit shit shit”.

    Pussy Riot is English words written in Latin script with connotations for English speaking ears – the stunt is directed at the English speaking media whereas the words they actually sing are quite shocking to Russian ears but not so meaningful to others and delivered in a sacred space.

    English speakers are so used to sacred things being trashed anyhow they that they barely notice, crucifix in urine, that’s art, obscene billboards outside churches at Christmas, par for the course.

    In Russia the leaders are working to raise people up – in the West we are descending into squalor.

    Anyway Vladimir Putin has said he thinks they shouldn’t be treated too harshly

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  13. eszett (2,331 comments) says:

    the stunt is directed at the English speaking media whereas the words they actually sing are quite shocking to Russian ears but not so meaningful to others and delivered in a sacred space.

    Sure, that’s why they sung in Russian, for the English speaking ears.

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  14. F E Smith (3,301 comments) says:

    Some people are so fucking pigshit stupid I just want to puke.

    Such scintillating debate!  You aren’t left wing, by any chance?

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  15. Luke Mutton (247 comments) says:

    FES, it wasn’t intended as debate, it was intended as an insult. And I stand by it. Left or Right doesn’t come into matters such has human rights and the right to protest, although that is a concept the Right often have trouble grasping.

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  16. Andrei (2,499 comments) says:

    And I stand by it. Left or Right doesn’t come into matters such has human rights and the right to protest, although that is a concept the Right often have trouble grasping.

    And respecting other people, their beliefs and sacred places is a concept the left is pathologically incapable of grasping because “human rights” only extend to those “rights” sent down from on high from party central.

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  17. Luke Mutton (247 comments) says:

    Andrei, I respect other people’s right to believe whatever bullshit they want to believe, but I am under no obligation to respect their bullshit beliefs or give them deference. If you want to think a cracker is god’s body, fine. And if I want to eat one with marmite, that, too, is fine.

    As long as the religious fuck off out of schools, I won’t harass them in church.

    If they want to knock on my door to spread their bile, I am quite within my rights to tell them to fuck off, and the following weekend, go knock on their doors and give them a copy of God is not Great. And yet, you don’t see atheists forcing the truth on believers, do you? we have too much respect for them to do that. Why won’t they respect us in return?

    And as for “sacred places”, you only respect your own, you have no respect at all for anything maori spiritual.

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  18. kowtow (7,582 comments) says:

    bwahahahaha

    At 617 mutton says “intended as insult” and then @632 “I respect….”

    He’s so full of shit.

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  19. gump (1,474 comments) says:

    Andrei said:

    In Russia the leaders are working to raise people up – in the West we are descending into squalor.

    ———————–

    Do you actually believe this?

    Really?

    No, really?

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  20. Richard Watts (11 comments) says:

    In mother Russia freedom jails you!

    Though on the freedom of speech aspect, whilst I would defend the right of anyone to speak their mind some minds are definitely not worth hearing.

    “Yes, free them … because while they’re behind bars the Greens can’t dictate what they eat, how much water they can use, what light blubs they can buy, what TV content they can watch. The Greens don’t believe in freedom. They believe in oppression, but only if it’s theirs.”

    Funnily enough National would tell you not to eat certain things, city councils will tell you how much water you can use, not sure why anyone would defend the most inefficient device in your home, National probably wants more censorship than the Greens etc.

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  21. jims_whare (398 comments) says:

    LM go back under your bridge -your friends are missing you.

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  22. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    Some people are so fucking pigshit stupid I just want to puke. And I suspect that not only is krazykiwi that pigshit stupid, he also has a k missing from his name.

    Luke, luke, luke. Such a temper. Was it a tough week being dressed up as lamb? And a weak stomach buy the sound of it. I’m sure it’s of little interest to you because it doesn’t involve attacking Chrsitians, but as my comment noted, I think there’s some irony in a party that campaigns for the removal of personal freedoms, and also campaigns for the freedom of these gals. Still, that’s just me. Now, must get back to thinking about what to do with that other ‘k’.

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  23. Jimmy Smits (246 comments) says:

    krazykiwi (8,245) Says:
    August 4th, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    Luke, luke, luke. Such a temper.

    Pfft, you think that’s bad – why don’t you look at your own brother in Christ?

    Reid (11,263) Says:
    August 4th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Jimmy you might like to know I deliberately swear more with you because I know you have a thing about it, you fucking moron. That’s the reason I do it with you, in particular. Sometimes I do it with others as well but with you, well fuck it, you’re an arsehole, so what the hell.

    Colossians 3:8 But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.

    Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

    Matthew 15:10-11 And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”

    James 3:10 From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.

    Ephesians 5:4 Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.

    Matthew 12:36-37 I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

    James 3:6-8 And the tongue is a fire, a world of unrighteousness. The tongue is set among our members, staining the whole body, setting on fire the entire course of life, and set on fire by hell. For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and sea creature, can be tamed and has been tamed by mankind, but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.

    2 Timothy 2:16 But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness,

    Proverbs 21:23 Whoever keeps his mouth and his tongue keeps himself out of trouble.

    James 3:11-13 Does a spring pour forth from the same opening both fresh and salt water? Can a fig tree, my brothers, bear olives, or a grapevine produce figs? Neither can a salt pond yield fresh water. Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom.

    Psalm 19:14 Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in your sight, O Lord, my rock and my redeemer.

    Luke 6:45 The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.

    Colossians 4:6 Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person.

    Jimmy, newsflash. Your parents know nothing about religion. They twisted you into a hate-filled little man. It isn’t religion that caused you to turn out like this, it was your parents mistaken interpretation of it. So blame your parents, even blame the church they worshipped if you like, but don’t blame religion, because religion isn’t responsible.

    Leviticus 20:9 For anyone who curses [another's] father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him.

    James 4:11-12 Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

    Romans 2:1-3 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God?

    Romans 14:1-13 As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

    Romans 14:1 As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions.

    James 1:26 If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person’s religion is worthless.

    Titus 3:2-7 To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior.

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  24. Liberal Minded Kiwi (1,563 comments) says:

    Please can somebody lock up the jesus freak ^^^^^

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  25. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    Wow I think Jimmy Smits just argued why blogging shouldn’t exist – in a blog.
    Imagine kiwiblog ruled by Titus 3:2 – 7 – we’d have nothing. . .

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  26. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    Yawn. Jimmy really needs to consider upgrading his/her attack-a-Christian strategy. The current approach appears to be to abuse, goad and insult waiting for anything less than gracious thanks before rejoining with “that’s not the attitude of Jesus Christ!” “Read :”. “Hypocrates!” It’s a bit worn out now.

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  27. RRM (9,422 comments) says:

    Far out! A whole thread full of kiwibloggers who think freedom of speech is sacred… but only when the person speaking is someone they like.

    The two-faced hypocrisy of the right YET AGAIN… noted. :neutral:

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  28. Mary Rose (393 comments) says:

    >Jimmy Smits
    >Ephesians 5:4 Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking,
    >Romans 2:1-3 …For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself,

    Jimmy Smits
    >Those three band members are so ugly I wouldn’t go anywhere near their pussies.

    One to think on, perhaps:
    Matthew 23:3 But do not do what they do, for they do not practise what they preach

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  29. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,810 comments) says:

    I guess they get second helpings of prison food these days in Russia.

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  30. Jimmy Smits (246 comments) says:

    Lee C (4,189) Says:
    August 5th, 2012 at 6:47 am

    Wow I think Jimmy Smits just argued why blogging shouldn’t exist – in a blog.
    Imagine kiwiblog ruled by Titus 3:2 – 7 – we’d have nothing. . .

    I’m glad that you agree with me that living by the Bible’s principles is absolutely ridiculous, and hence why we should also not apply Biblical rules to homosexuality to modern day society. Baby steps Lee.

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  31. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    Thanks for breaking teh finer intricacies of your argument down so coherently, but unfortunately no, I wasn’t making any reference to the rights or wrongs of applying biblical tenets to homosexuality. I was just suggesting that so much of Kiwiblog is expressed in hateful language and so many who visit here have some rather off-colour modes of expression, or jaded tendencies to express themselves with smug or badly-applied sarcasm, that Titus probably wouldn’t do very well were he to set up a blog with that little lot as his rules of engagement.

    I’m not saying don’t do it, or that many of the biblical sentiments you recorded aren’t laudable, I’m just suggesting to apply them in a blog would rather subvert what motivates many to visit and comment on them.

    Erroneously, perhaps I thought you were inferring a similar sentiment about how people tend to express themselves in blogs, I hope you might agree this was a reasonable assumption to make in the context of the people you cited, and as your statements didn’t appear to make any reference to biblical principles pertaining to homosexuality.

    Perhaps I was being obtuse. Please accept my apologies for any misunderstanding on my part.

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  32. maxb (1 comment) says:

    Good to see that dpf, at least, is concerned with *issues* rather than political parties or personalities. In any civilised country they’d have been charged with disorderly behaviour and given a small fine at worst.

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