MPs overall voting pattern
August 31st, 2012 at 12:00 pm by David FarrarIt is very rare to have two major conscience issues in two days. The downside is it is exhausting. The upside is it means even more analysis! I’ve done a table showing how each MP voted on both issues.
I’ve applied labels of “liberal” for those who voted for marriage equality and 18 purchase age (on 1st or 2nd ballot). Yes I know I said you can be conservative and vote for same sex marriage. Labels are never wholly accurate. It’s just a convenient term in this case – not a tag for life.
Those who voted against marriage equality bill and for a 20 purchase age get the “conservative” label.
And those who voted for marriage equality but a 20 purchase age or against marriage equality and an 18 purchase age, I have cheekily labelled “confused”
So, applying the normal analysis to the Parliament, we have:
So overall 56 MPs voted “liberal”, 29 MPs “conservative” and 36 MPs were “confused” or as they might call it, moderate
What demographics stand out?
Electorate and List MPs are roughly equally liberal and conservative.
Female MPs are definitely more liberal. Male MPs are split almost three ways between liberal, conservative and confused.
European and Maori MPs are more liberal than Asian and Pacific MPs.
MPs aged in their 40s are more conservative then those both younger and older than them.
Wellington and Christchurch have almost no conservative MPs – just three out of 28.
Rural MPs are slightly more liberal than provincial MPs. South Island more liberal than North Island also.
The Cabinet has eight liberals, eight confused and four conservative.
There are no “conservative” gay or lesbian MPs – but three of them are confused
The MPs who entered in 1980s and 2002 are most liberal. The 2011 intake is the most conservative.
Tags: MPS, Parliament


August 31st, 2012 at 12:05 pm
National ,the confused party.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I think the concern about alchohol is for instance the giant parties in Riccarton where a group thought it was fun to line up against the police. Everyone knows that individuals are different etc, but people want to see a message sent to the alchohol industry. Some of those Green MP’s are fond of people who train at military style camps and throw molotov cocktails so to them a bit of civil disorder would be a good thing.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 12:10 pm
No TRUE Conservative would ever buy into the overpoweringly huge tyrannical government that sits astride this country poking its looting interfering busybody nose into every damn thing.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Males in their forties seem the most confused or conservative.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 12:30 pm
John Banks, liberal
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 12:31 pm
“No TRUE Conservative would ever buy into the overpoweringly huge tyrannical government that sits astride this country poking its looting interfering busybody nose into every damn thing.”
Vote:And yet you want us to be more like Singapore
fuckwit
August 31st, 2012 at 12:31 pm
I wouldn’t call MPs like Judith Collins and Simon Bridges who voted for 20 confused. They are the ones who understand the true impact alcohol has. They listened to their constituents.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 12:39 pm
” There are no “conservative” gay or lesbian MPs – but three of them are confused ”
I’d say they’re all confused – especially about their sexuality.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Confused or pragmatic?
Conservative or dogmatic?
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Griff, you’re mentally crippled.
You’ll never get it, and you will never get the real reason why Singapore is prosperous and NZ is economically stunted.
Just go away and stop boring me.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Chin up Wedbaiter – at least there’s one wholly conservative (and not at all confused) party in parliament you can vote for.
And the leader used to be your local MP in Tauranga, how about that eh?!?
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Sorry red just pointing out the huge disparity between your world view and reality
Vote:Cognitive dissonance would eventually become evident in a sapient being, for you no such luck
August 31st, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Kiwiblog is just so full of retarded left wing idiots.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 1:01 pm
That’s odd…YO’ MOMMA said exactly the same thing last night…
zing.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Time for a true Conservative party to enter parliament.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 1:36 pm
“…The 2011 intake is the most conservative….”
HA HA HA – conservatism is now the new counter culture!
So the elephant in the room is now suicide prevention.
The next election is going to be a grand experiance – the conservatives wanting to ‘de-confuse’ teenagers about their sexuality so as to save lives.
While poofter loving blue, red & green MP’s will announce a cross party package of assistance to help IMMATURE kids who want to debase themselves.
But gays will continue to kill themselves – as they still do in gay loving San Francisco. Funny that.
Gays are not intimatly involved with the straight community, and NZ doesn’t hate gays, infact, NZ has mostly supported the gay community in the last 20yrs, so the REALITY is that gays must therefor hate themselves to have such high suicide rates.
MP’S are obviously NOT informed on the subject matter of homosexuality – a fact that David Farrar often misses!
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
So National are not only suffering from a dose of 2nd-term-arrogance, they also seem to be harbouring the bulk of the “confused” MPs. What is a poor voter going to do come election time – abstain?
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I wouldn’t call how someone votes on whether 18 or 20 year olds can drink or buy alcohol a major tenant of conservatism. Personally, I don’t think it would hurt to raise the age, because everyone gets older and therefore it would delay buying and drinking for a couple of years – BUT – I don’t think that by itself is going to make a huge difference. However, if it were me voting for it, I’d raise the age just to see if it had any effect.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 4:13 pm
When we get a Conservative Party in parliament – we will get one committed to smaller government and fiscal discipline – and of course a 2011 manifesto promise to make all income up to the minimum wage tax free. Confused? We all should be.
And no they will not sell assets to make this possible in the short term.
Vote:August 31st, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Russell Redbaiter… or as we call him, a boy named Sue. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1BJfDvSITY
Obviously has not been to Singapore lately – freedom isn’t free there. Sure it’s wealthier, but they do restrict freedom. It might suit Red-Sue to a tee, as he does like to tell us all how to lead our marxist progressive lives. But I’d doubt he’d get a job out there anyway!
Harriet, making fun of gay suicide rates is hardly funny. But I guess if you still think of them as 2nd class citizens then that’s your raison d’etre isn’t it?
Vote:September 1st, 2012 at 12:40 am
This is fantastic DPF a list of who we need turfed out of parliament to trun the country around and get it going again.
All the liberals of all parties.
maybe we could have a referendum about it
Vote:September 2nd, 2012 at 1:06 am
It is not the marriage equality bill, it is the Marriage (Refinition of Marriage) Amendment Bill, or ‘redefinition of marriage’ bill for short.
If it was marriage equality, then it would not continue with the restrictions in the Marriage Act about who you can and cannot marry. The redefinition of marriage bill continues with these restrictions and so it won’t be equal.
Vote: