Public Polls July 2012

August 20th, 2012 at 1:30 pm by David Farrar

Curia’s Polling Newsletter – Issue 59, July 2012

 July saw five political published – two Roy Morgan a 3 News Reid Research poll, One News Colmar Brunton poll and the new Fairfax Ipsos poll.

The average of the public polls has National 16% ahead of Labour, up slightly from 15% in June. The centre-right has 62 out of 121 seats on the July average, so could govern without the Maori Party.

Australia has the ALP 8% to 12% behind the coalition.

In the United States Barack Obama is 1% ahead of Mitt Romney in the polls, and remains ahead in likely electoral college votes – but Romney has gained on him. However his re-election chances on the Intrade market improved from 55% to 57%.

The Republicans remained favoured to keep control in the House (85%) but are now at only 49% to gain a majority in the Senate.

In the UK the Conservatives are 11% behind Labour. The Lib Dems have picked up some support.

In Canada the Conservatives have regained the lead from the NDP – ahead by 33% to 32%. The once mighty Liberals languish at 22% and look unable to regain support from the NDP.

The normal two tables are provided comparing the country direction sentiment and head of government approval sentiment for the five countries. New Zealand continues to stand out in both.

We also carry details of polls in New Zealand on alcohol minimum pricing, same sex marriage, asset sales, school achievement, the court system, Auckland CBD rail loop, Christchurch Cathedral, and plus the normal business and consumer confidence polls.

This newsletter is normally only available by e-mail.  If you would like to receive future issues, please go to http://listserver.actrix.co.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/polling-newsletter to subscribe yourself.

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80 Responses to “Public Polls July 2012”

  1. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    The gigantic fall in support for the U.K Conservatives should come as no surprise – Neoliberal policies continue to fail most working people there with no sign of an economic recovery. I think this was always going to be a one term Government.

    I don’t know what U.S polls DPF uses, but the ones I have seen (with the exception of Fox News) show a clear victory for Obama. Romney has to win both Florida and Ohio to have a chance, and the section of Ryan as a running mate will not help. Ryan makes Palin look like a liberal intellectual from Boston.

    Labour will clearly lose in Australia, but that says more about the average Aussie IQ than logic. I mean Tony Abbott??

    We are more than two years away from an election in NZ. I predict National will drop to the early 40%s as second term blues finally kick in. A Labour/Green coalition will be formed in 2014. Perhaps a small chance of National/Conservatives/NZ First, but that requires a lot of variables to occur around the same time.

    [DPF: It really annoys me when people say things which are based on ideological belief, rather than truth.

    The polls I quote are in fact an average of all US polls. But what I wanted to fisk you on is your statement that only Fox News does not show Obama ahead. I know if your worldview Fox is evil and you can not trust anything on it, but this speaks more about you, than them.

    The latest Fox News poll has Obama 9% ahead of Romney. In fact it is more favourable to Obama than almost all other recent polls.]

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  2. hmmokrightitis (1,506 comments) says:

    So, in summary then ham.

    Where the right are leading, it will all change, and thank the gods for that.

    Where the left will fall, its because the electorate is febrile and just plain stupid.

    You do realise you come across as a complete fuckwit, right?

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  3. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Come on – Tony Abbott? I could understand Aussies if it was a decent candidate, but Tony Abbott.

    It is very hard to argue that Romney is stronger than Obama.

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  4. ISeeRed (244 comments) says:

    “Ryan makes Palin look like a liberal intellectual from Boston. ”

    You obviously know nothing about Palin, Ryan or US politics in general. Paul Ryan is almost always the smartest man in the room. Let’s review now:

    2012: The economy is No 1 issue in the US:

    Republican side: successful businessman + smart economist
    Democrat side: thin-skinned community organiser + gaffe-prone lawyer

    Golly it’s so hard to decide which side has more intelligence, competence and relevance this election….

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  5. hmmokrightitis (1,506 comments) says:

    Its an opinion thing I think you will find. And like most hard core left morons, when someone doesnt agree with you, or you disagree with something, your position is that they are weak minded morons.

    You really dont get irony do you?

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  6. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    I SeeRed – I guess we will see who wins the election – A multi million dollar tax cheat or the Harvard lawyer turned community organiser.

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  7. flipper (3,537 comments) says:

    So ….
    ” A multi million dollar tax cheat or the Harvard lawyer turned community organiser.”

    Can you please tell us how in a country where financial privacy no longer exists (try getting away with NZ’s IRD response on tax enquiries!), Romney managed felonious tax evasion ?

    The answer is neither you, Ham, nor that little Nevada weasel Reid, can support your clams.

    Ham, please go back to sleep.

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  8. hmmokrightitis (1,506 comments) says:

    Tax cheat – proof required. I see him paying his taxes as required. Do you mean he should pay more IYHO? And because he doesnt, thats illegal?

    Shouldnt you have donated your computer to a more needy family by now?

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  9. ISeeRed (244 comments) says:

    Hamnida, what proof of tax evasion do you have? None. Just regurgitating some slimy baseless charge from Harry “The Word Is Out” Reid. And Bush went to Harvard too. So what? At least Bush’s academic transcripts are a matter of public record. Obama’s records from Harvard are sealed. Why would that be? Why should Romney have to release a few tax returns when Obama has most of his life’s “work” in a sealed vault? Note to Hamnida and Democratic National Committee: avoid mention of Harvard or the non-release of personal records.

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  10. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Oh sorry, I forgot, you Neolibs don’t even think Obama was born in the U.S.A.

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  11. Ed Snack (1,733 comments) says:

    Hamnida, it must be an awful come down to realize that Obama attended Harvard as an “equal opportunities” student. That is, he was not selected on the basis of ability but on the basis of race. Nice way to flaunt one’s cleverness that.

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  12. tristanb (1,133 comments) says:

    Oh sorry, I forgot, you Neolibs don’t even think Obama was born in the U.S.A.

    Stop calling people “neolibs” you weirdo. Bullshit terms like that are only said by idiots and first year pol science losers. And don’t tell other people what they think.

    There’s actually only a handful of nutters who actually believe Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya.

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  13. ISeeRed (244 comments) says:

    tristanb: Obama Is Not A Keynesian, He’s An American!


    :-D

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  14. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Ed Snack – Sadly, your racial taunts don’t surprise me. Until reading this blog over the last month, I thought you count the remaining racists in New Zealand on one hand – Chapman, Brash, Ansell, Crimp.

    If you are you going to launch a racist attack on Obama, I suggest you provide some evidence.

    Even if it was “equal opportunities”, this does not reflect on his intelligence or values. It is probably to do with giving less affluent African Americans access to pricey universities. In my view, that would be a solid policy in the context of a heavily privatised American tertiary education system.

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  15. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    tristanb – A number of contributors on this blog have questioned Obama’s place of birth and religion. There are also freak shows like Fox that continue to propagate this false rumour despite Obama’s birth certificate being a public document.

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  16. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    ISeeRed – I thought George W was a Harvard drop out. I actually quite like George W, much better choice than Gore or Kerry. With George W you knew what you were getting – A Texan ranch owner come baseball franchise manager. Also, Bush has a great sense of humour.

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  17. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    Lots of people would like to see Romney’s tax returns

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  18. bringbackdemocracy (391 comments) says:

    Once again you have ignored NZ’s 5th largest party the Conservatives. For the record they polled as follows

    Roy Morgan two polls 3.0% and 1.5%
    3 News Reid research 1.7%
    TV 1 Colmar Brunton 1%
    Fairfax Ipsos 0.7%

    It would be good if all parties poll results were treated evenly.

    [DPF: They are included in the full report and all data on them is collected. Changing the templates is a non-trivial job. When I have the time, they'll be included]

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  19. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    cha – that clip really makes you think what Romney’s hiding.

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  20. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    I think the Conservatives can get 4%, that’s why I put them into my calculations. The problem for National will be explaining to Colin Craig why Winston’s Deputy PM and he isn’t.

    A good result for National would be – National 42%, NZ First, 4.5%, Conservatives 4%. That way they can form a government and justify why Winston’s Deputy PM. This would be a rocky government and I don’t think it would last 3 years.

    I think Labour/Greens are more likely, possibly with a seat or two from Mana/Maori.

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  21. Pete George (22,750 comments) says:

    A number of contributors on this blog have questioned Obama’s place of birth and religion.

    A very small number proportional to how many comment here. It’s been ridiculued so much for so long most don’t bother commenting on it any more. Your credibility suffers when you make sweeping statements unsupported by facts.

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  22. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Pete George – Well I have only read and posted on this blog for four weeks and I’ve heard the Obama birther myth quite a lot.

    I’ve also witnessed a level of racism I wasn’t aware still existed in New Zealand.

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  23. hmmokrightitis (1,506 comments) says:

    Come on then ham, proof. I call bullshit. Four weeks, show me how many posts state that as a fact from your so called ‘neolibs’. Show me you know how to use Google.

    You say “a number” I agree. Zero. If its more than 5, I will donate $50 to charity.

    Go.

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  24. tom hunter (4,369 comments) says:

    Lots of people would like to see Romney’s tax returns

    Lots of people would like to see Obama’s college grades and transcripts.

    But sealed tight they remain, with nary a journalist after them – probably too busy chasing Romney’s high school report cards!

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  25. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    I just scrolled down, but the blogs only go back to August 17.

    So lets start the bet now if you’re still on?

    With the election in November, there will be a number of postings. I reckon I’ll get to five in two weeks.

    And I’ll meet your bet, $50 if I don’t get five or more.

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  26. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    1. General Debate 18 July 2012 at 1:53pm.

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  27. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    2. Weihana (2,244) Says:
    July 18th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
    mikenmild,

    I will advance that he is neither Hawaiian or Kenyan: he’s a cybernetic clone of George W Bush (with an upgrade to his oratory control system) developed at Area 51 by the supposedly defunct Project for the New American Century in cooperation with the Skull and Bones society.

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  28. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    3. AUSA

    Pete George (14,281) Says:
    July 18th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    mikenmild – there’s no proof at all that Obama was born. Seeing him on the telly doesn’t count, you know what they did with the moon stuff. And the clincher is Palin has never claimed she could see him from her house.

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  29. Grant (426 comments) says:

    Handjob
    You are truly the most obnoxious, oily, unctuous, and unlikeable person currently posting on this blog. Time for some sunlight on your political views I think.
    How’s that Marxism thing working out for you?
    G

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  30. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    4.

    kowtow (2,614) Says:
    July 18th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    oh yes the kb usual suspects,pete g,mm,weihana;

    mock all you like but the Anointed One is not an all American boy is he?

    http://www.torontosun.com/2011/09/02/the-great-obama-cover-up

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  31. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    5.

    kowtow (2,614) Says:
    July 18th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
    Non American father,grand mother lives in a mud hut in Kenya which just got electricity. Uncle and aunt who are illegal aliens in the USA. Mom, a communist.

    And you prats make fun of S Palin, I think there’ s alot more fun in Uncle Onyango,now there’s a name you won’t find listed in the American Civil War archives,unless you look up Mau Mau rebellion……

    Real all American apple pie……..

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  32. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    $50 to Women’s Refuge Christchurch please.

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  33. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Grant – I am no Marxist – I believe in a New Zealand for all New Zealanders.

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  34. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    6.

    Redbaiter (500) Says:
    May 19th, 2012 at 8:10 am
    When Barack Obama is confiirmed as born in Kenya, remember there was basically only one blogger in NZ prepared to carry the narrative and run with this truth.

    Almost every other news source and NZ blogger was complicit in the cover up, and or too cowardly to run with it.

    http://truebluenz.com/

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  35. hmmokrightitis (1,506 comments) says:

    Your standard of proof is appalling.

    1. Scuse me, a blank post?

    2. A joke, seriously?

    3. Another joke? WTF are you on?

    4. So, a link to a cover up story, with no birther reference at all

    5. And another post with no birther references

    And you call that neolibs supporting the birther morons. Gain some grip dear marxist colleague, I may have to wet myself laughing in your general direction.

    Feel free to try again…

    Go.

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  36. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    7.

    Redbaiter (500) Says:
    May 19th, 2012 at 8:31 am
    Barack Obama a “birther”?

    (“Birther” being the name the left thought up to ridicule those who questioned Obama’s Constitutional legitimacy, in an attempt to link them with bizarre and irrational 9/11 “truthers”)

    Obama himself wrote the outline biography used in the Dystel and Goderich book review and the description of the author. Obama himself said he was born in Kenya.

    Read that again-

    Obama himself told them he was born in Kenya.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/18/dystel-biography-submission-guidelines-obama-kenya-fact-checking-error

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  37. Grant (426 comments) says:

    Ohh, what happened to your self confessed Marxist leanings then, not to mention all your ” coercion” policies to do with education??
    Nevermind, by the time you turn 15 you’ll look back and realise how ignorant you sounded back in 2012.

    G

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  38. hmmokrightitis (1,506 comments) says:

    Cool, that’s one. Well done. And redbaiter, makes sense really :)

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  39. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    And more:

    Leaping Jimmy (11,398) Says:
    May 19th, 2012 at 8:42 am
    remember there was basically only one blogger in NZ prepared to carry the narrative and run with this truth. Almost every other news source and NZ blogger was complicit in the cover up, and or too cowardly to run with it

    Try not to rate yourself too highly RB. Obama’s birth issue is merely one of the many issues this particular pres has. Just because its the one you chose to run with, doesn’t mean that even before you started doing that, others here weren’t already aware of it and remain abreast. I was reading this last night, for example but couldn’t be arsed saying anything then.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii

    Manolo (7,156) Says:
    May 19th, 2012 at 8:43 am
    Obama is the grave digger of the US economy. The Kenyan is a saboteur and socialist mole.
    Even so, it’s within possibly the squatter could remain in the White House after the November election. Figure that out.

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  40. hmmokrightitis (1,506 comments) says:

    Nope, youve got redbaiter, try again

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  41. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    I should have known you would never pay.

    If I hadn’t got them, I would have paid.

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  42. hmmokrightitis (1,506 comments) says:

    He is Kenyan by descent, try harder…

    Still one…

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  43. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    David Garrett (2,497) Says:
    May 19th, 2012 at 10:07 am
    Can someone explain to me why anyone in NEW ZEALAND gives a rats rectum where Obama was born? Seriously guys, he’s the President of the US, love him or loathe him…but why the hell does it matter to us??

    Manolo (7,156) Says:
    May 19th, 2012 at 10:13 am
    Utter horror: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8469771/labour-could-lead-government-poll
    Each country get the government it deserves.

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  44. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    This must be 10…

    or instance, he went to a memorial event celebrating the famous crossing of the Selma bridge that happened in the 1960s and told people that his mother and father met there and that he (Obama) was the result of that meeting, so that coming to Selma was ‘coming home”. There is video of him saying this. In fact, Obama was born 4 years earlier than the Selma event. He made up the story.

    The matter of where he was born is important in one respect, because one must be natural born to be able to be President, but this latest issue with the bio is important as it shows us what kind of person Obama is – how he likes to make up stories about himself that are provably false.

    I think that’s just weird. Especially for the most powerful man in the world.

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  45. hmmokrightitis (1,506 comments) says:

    Ive noted one. Find four more. You said “A number of contributors on this blog have questioned Obama’s place of birth and religion” and you’ve found one that meets that standard.

    Stop bleating and provide proof, or back down. Simple.

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  46. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    11.

    e.

    Fletch (3,211) Says:
    May 19th, 2012 at 11:33 am
    Scott Chris, the lawyer representing Obama won’t even admit in court that the ‘birth certificate’ he produced was real.

    About two-thirds of the way through the hearing, Hill admitted in open court something that no lawyer for the Obama campaign has ever admitted. Obama never furnished a true copy of his birth certificate to the New Jersey Secretary of State. Furthermore, the PDF file that the White House has served to the Internet since April 27, 2012, is not relevant to the case in any way.

    Hill conceded this point after Apuzzo tried to call Brian Wilcox, an expert document analyst. He was ready to show that no one could rely on the PDF file as a substitute for a hard-copy long-form birth certificate. But Judge Masin said at once that neither he nor Secretary of State Kim Guadagno had ever seen a birth certificate, whether on paper, as a PDF file, or on the Internet. He told Apuzzo that calling Wilcox would be “premature.”

    Then Masin turned to Hill and asked her directly:

    Is it your legal position that the document on the Internet is irrelevant to this case?

    Hill replied, “Yes.” Masin then asked:

    And indeed you concede that Mr. Obama has not produced an alleged birth certificate to the Secretary of State.

    Hill at first said, “It has been released nationally,” but then admitted that she did not know personally that Obama had given any such document to the Secretary of State, nor did she intend giving such a document to the court today

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  47. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    The list goes on.

    Give the $50 to Christchurch Women’s Refuge or I will.

    Night, night.

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  48. hmmokrightitis (1,506 comments) says:

    And fletch states where in that post that he is a birther, or questioned the place of birth? A mere re-posting of information?

    Do keep up.

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  49. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    Tom, is the release of college grades and transcripts a mandatory requirement for candidates?.

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  50. Grant (426 comments) says:

    That has to be the funniest threat ever on the blogosphere.

    “Give the $50 to Christchurch Women’s Refuge or I will. ”

    Hamandeggs, you have truly missed your calling. A job in the circus beckons.
    G

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  51. hmmokrightitis (1,506 comments) says:

    No, the claims that the list goes on go on.

    Yet again, you fail the burden of proof. But keep making fact-free claims. It reminds us of why we dont vote left.

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  52. Griff (6,703 comments) says:

    I’ve also witnessed a level of racism I wasn’t aware still existed in New Zealand.

    home schooled as well as under twenty
    No we are not as racist as your hero john killawhitemoitherfucker Hatfield or for that matter Margret onlywhitescanberacist Mutu
    Or is this another time that you have a special and private meaning for the words you use

    wiki Racist
    Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, or beliefs that reflect the racial worldview: the ideology that humans are divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called “races”. This ideology entails the belief that members of a race share a set of characteristic traits, abilities, or qualities, that traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral characteristics are inherited, and that this inheritance means that races can be ranked as innately superior or inferior to others.

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  53. tom hunter (4,369 comments) says:

    Tom, is the release of college grades and transcripts a mandatory requirement for candidates?.

    As far as I’m aware there is nothing about a candidate’s history that is mandatory for release. But when journalists are digging up Mitt’s high school records why should Obambi get a free pass – especially when his supporters made such a big deal about how smart he is. I’d have thought someone with straight A’s at Columbia and Harvard would be gagging to release them.

    Must be something to hide – assuming I apply your (cough) standard (cough)?

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  54. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    Must be something to hide – assuming I apply your (cough) standard (cough)?

    Nasty wee frog there Tom.

    Anyhoo, not that I give a rat’s, but I reckon his tax status appears to be the only thing about Romney that’s not been made public and the demands are a play dirty Chicago style attempt to set the terms of engagement, if he does release details they win and if he doesn’t he’s hiding something.

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  55. tom hunter (4,369 comments) says:

    Oh I quite agree Cha. But I’ve been surprised to see Romney developing what appears to be a spine, in that he’s simply said no and waited for the inevitable MSM cycle to role over on to the next talking point – which now appears to be Ryan and Medicare, not to mention the uproar about Slow Joe’s clumsy attempt to play the race card.

    In other words, he effectively told the Chicago campaign to pound sand. Me like!

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  56. eszett (2,331 comments) says:

    the demands are a play dirty Chicago style attempt to set the terms of engagement

    Hardly, since it was normal for every presidential candidate to release numerous years of his tax returns.
    If Romney would have just released his upfront there wouldn’t have been any “demands”. The fact that Romney is trying not to play by the “rules” is what triggered this all.

    What I find really amusing is that no one seems to be bothered by the fact that a multimillionaire pays a mere 13% tax rate.

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  57. Nostradamus (2,938 comments) says:

    Hamnida:

    I gather you’re not a native English speaker?

    Take it from me, an objective observer, that you’ve completely failed to substantiate your original claim that “[a] number of contributors on this blog have questioned Obama’s place of birth and religion”. Most of the comments you’ve found, supposedly in support of your claim, are dripping with irony or sarcasm – they should not be interpreted literally, and actually have the opposite meaning. The people responsible for those comments, such as Pete George, could hardly be described as “birthers”!

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  58. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Should have known a Neolib would never pay out on a bet, let alone to Women’s Refuge.

    There is no argument whatsoever that I found at least five people who post on this blog questioning whether Obama was born in the U.S or not. Sarcasm (and doubt some of them were, as they actually named different places of birth) is the writer’s responsibility.

    Shame on hmmokrightitis.

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  59. Paulus (2,493 comments) says:

    That Pom John Harvard, from Liverpool, has a lot to answer for in USA, and consequential World affairs.

    But, the University still owns over 200,000 hectares of New Zealand land, including farms. and will purchase more, as it sees a good investment.

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  60. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Paulus – For real? Harvard owns 200,000 hectares in NZ?

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  61. Nostradamus (2,938 comments) says:

    Hamnida:

    There is no argument whatsoever that I found at least five people who post on this blog questioning whether Obama was born in the U.S or not. Sarcasm (and doubt some of them were, as they actually named different places of birth) is the writer’s responsibility.

    Your logic is flawed. No, contrary to your assertion, you haven’t found five people questioning whether Obama was born in the US or not. At least, if you say so, then name the five people.

    A number of the comments you quoted yesterday were clearly intended to be humorous. It doesn’t help your cause at all to say that sarcasm “is the writer’s responsibility”.

    Let’s just say that I’ve read Kiwiblog fairly regularly for the last eight years, so I’m better-placed than you to judge whether a person was seriously questioning whether Obama was born in the US or not.

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  62. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Nostradamus – Just scrolled back through them – a myriad of postings questioning Obama’s place of birth.

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  63. Nostradamus (2,938 comments) says:

    *Sigh*

    You are misisng my point – I have not seen five posts genuinely questioning Obama’s place of birth.

    I will advance that he is neither Hawaiian or Kenyan: he’s a cybernetic clone of George W Bush (with an upgrade to his oratory control system) developed at Area 51 by the supposedly defunct Project for the New American Century in cooperation with the Skull and Bones society.

    Not that one.

    mikenmild – there’s no proof at all that Obama was born. Seeing him on the telly doesn’t count, you know what they did with the moon stuff. And the clincher is Palin has never claimed she could see him from her house.

    No proof that he was born! Are you getting a sense of irony?

    And I won’t bother going on… the only one you actually found was from Redbaiter. That makes one, not the five you claimed.

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  64. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Micky mouse debate – If he was not born, how could he be born in the U.S.A? I have to have that one.

    “I will advance that he is neither Hawaiian or Kenyan” – I’ll give you that one, as there are 49 states other than Hawaii and George W was born in one of them.

    But if he wasn’t born, it is impossible for him to be born in any U.S State.

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  65. Nostradamus (2,938 comments) says:

    Hamnida:

    Micky mouse debate – If he was not born, how could he be born in the U.S.A? I have to have that one.

    If you can’t see that “there’s no proof at all that Obama was born” is a joke, then you are… ah, fuck it. I’m clearly wasting my time. You’re simply too stupid for words.

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  66. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    Don’t blame me – I think Obama was born in Hawaii, so I’m not the stupid one. The person who posted the comment was trying to say Obama was not even born. Maybe he/she believes in Adam and Eve too.

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  67. thedavincimode (6,526 comments) says:

    Jesus you’re a fuckwit.

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  68. tom hunter (4,369 comments) says:

    … then you are… ah, fuck it.

    Heh, heh, heh.

    Incredible is it not Nostradamus. They walk among us and breed. As I said of Hamnida’s ramblings the other day (quoting the scene from Billy Madison):

    What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.

    At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

    Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.

    I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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  69. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    You Neolibs are weird – I have read Obama’s birth certificate on-line and simply concluded he was born in the U.S.A.

    You guys really still doubt that?

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  70. kowtow (7,582 comments) says:

    Obama famously said he’d visited 56 states ,so he could have been born in 6 more than the 50 that actually constitute those united territories.

    And until this joker came along, I ‘ll bet there was never a President who had a granny who could call a mud hut in Kenya home. He ain’t no all American boy.

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  71. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    “He ain’t no all American boy”

    Make that $150 for Women’s Refuge please.

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  72. Nostradamus (2,938 comments) says:

    Tom Hunter:

    Here’s the thing. You’ve been around the Kiwiblog block more than a few times. When it comes to the likes of Philu, Zhumao and Yoza, although they’re all hopelessly misguided in their own way, at least you get a sense of intelligent thought when debating issues with them. With Hamnida, there’s no debate. All you get back is weird sloganeering like “neolibs” and, well, not much else really.

    Someone really should put together a “best of” from Hamnida’s “contributions” (in the broadest sense of the word) to date.

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  73. tom hunter (4,369 comments) says:

    I said pretty much the same thing on GD the other day.

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  74. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    OK, I’m happy to leave it at that. You Neolibs think Obama wasn’t even born, yet I think he was born in Hawaii, a state of the U.S.A. Seems a bit strange, but every one is entitled to their opinion.

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  75. Nostradamus (2,938 comments) says:

    You Neolibs think Obama wasn’t even born

    And now I’m calling it: Hamnida is by far the most batshit-crazy person ever to comment on Kiwiblog. That last comment will take quite some beating.

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  76. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    What, for thinking Obama was born in Hawaii, a state of the U.S.A?

    If I’m wrong, then I think I need medication.

    I thought even Mike Hukabee agreed he was born in the U.S.A now.

    You Neolibs are weird.

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  77. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    Hamnida is by far the most batshit-crazy person ever to comment on Kiwiblog. That last comment will take quite some beating.

    Nostradamus,

    Have you forgotten Magic Bullet so quickly?

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  78. Nostradamus (2,938 comments) says:

    Bhudson:

    Would you nominate this comment then? :)

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  79. Hamnida (905 comments) says:

    I don’t know if Key has had accent training or not, but there are people who specialise in that field.

    What I do know is that Paula Bennett is a PR character. They make people think she is a bogan, Westie, solo mum turned good. In fact, she is a McCully staffer (read what you like into that) from Taupo and the North Shore.

    If you ask me, the weirdest thing about John Kiwi is not his accent, it’s the eyes close together.

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  80. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    Nostradamus,

    No. Personally I think this one trumps it:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/05/a_john_key_prunciation_guide.html#comment-827283

    (Oh and any of his 9/11 Truther comments also)

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