Public Polls July 2012
August 20th, 2012 at 1:30 pm by David FarrarCuria’s Polling Newsletter – Issue 59, July 2012
July saw five political polls published – two Roy Morgan polls a 3 News Reid Research poll, One News Colmar Brunton poll and the new Fairfax Ipsos poll.
The average of the public polls has National 16% ahead of Labour, up slightly from 15% in June. The centre-right has 62 out of 121 seats on the July average, so could govern without the Maori Party.
Australia has the ALP 8% to 12% behind the coalition.
In the United States Barack Obama is 1% ahead of Mitt Romney in the polls, and remains ahead in likely electoral college votes – but Romney has gained on him. However his re-election chances on the Intrade market improved from 55% to 57%.
The Republicans remained favoured to keep control in the House (85%) but are now at only 49% to gain a majority in the Senate.
In the UK the Conservatives are 11% behind Labour. The Lib Dems have picked up some support.
In Canada the Conservatives have regained the lead from the NDP – ahead by 33% to 32%. The once mighty Liberals languish at 22% and look unable to regain support from the NDP.
The normal two tables are provided comparing the country direction sentiment and head of government approval sentiment for the five countries. New Zealand continues to stand out in both.
We also carry details of polls in New Zealand on alcohol minimum pricing, same sex marriage, asset sales, school achievement, the court system, Auckland CBD rail loop, Christchurch Cathedral, and plus the normal business and consumer confidence polls.
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August 20th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
The gigantic fall in support for the U.K Conservatives should come as no surprise – Neoliberal policies continue to fail most working people there with no sign of an economic recovery. I think this was always going to be a one term Government.
I don’t know what U.S polls DPF uses, but the ones I have seen (with the exception of Fox News) show a clear victory for Obama. Romney has to win both Florida and Ohio to have a chance, and the section of Ryan as a running mate will not help. Ryan makes Palin look like a liberal intellectual from Boston.
Labour will clearly lose in Australia, but that says more about the average Aussie IQ than logic. I mean Tony Abbott??
We are more than two years away from an election in NZ. I predict National will drop to the early 40%s as second term blues finally kick in. A Labour/Green coalition will be formed in 2014. Perhaps a small chance of National/Conservatives/NZ First, but that requires a lot of variables to occur around the same time.
[DPF: It really annoys me when people say things which are based on ideological belief, rather than truth.
The polls I quote are in fact an average of all US polls. But what I wanted to fisk you on is your statement that only Fox News does not show Obama ahead. I know if your worldview Fox is evil and you can not trust anything on it, but this speaks more about you, than them.
The latest Fox News poll has Obama 9% ahead of Romney. In fact it is more favourable to Obama than almost all other recent polls.]
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
So, in summary then ham.
Where the right are leading, it will all change, and thank the gods for that.
Where the left will fall, its because the electorate is febrile and just plain stupid.
You do realise you come across as a complete fuckwit, right?
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Come on – Tony Abbott? I could understand Aussies if it was a decent candidate, but Tony Abbott.
It is very hard to argue that Romney is stronger than Obama.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
“Ryan makes Palin look like a liberal intellectual from Boston. ”
You obviously know nothing about Palin, Ryan or US politics in general. Paul Ryan is almost always the smartest man in the room. Let’s review now:
2012: The economy is No 1 issue in the US:
Republican side: successful businessman + smart economist
Democrat side: thin-skinned community organiser + gaffe-prone lawyer
Golly it’s so hard to decide which side has more intelligence, competence and relevance this election….
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Its an opinion thing I think you will find. And like most hard core left morons, when someone doesnt agree with you, or you disagree with something, your position is that they are weak minded morons.
You really dont get irony do you?
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
I SeeRed – I guess we will see who wins the election – A multi million dollar tax cheat or the Harvard lawyer turned community organiser.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
So ….
” A multi million dollar tax cheat or the Harvard lawyer turned community organiser.”
Can you please tell us how in a country where financial privacy no longer exists (try getting away with NZ’s IRD response on tax enquiries!), Romney managed felonious tax evasion ?
The answer is neither you, Ham, nor that little Nevada weasel Reid, can support your clams.
Ham, please go back to sleep.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Tax cheat – proof required. I see him paying his taxes as required. Do you mean he should pay more IYHO? And because he doesnt, thats illegal?
Shouldnt you have donated your computer to a more needy family by now?
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Hamnida, what proof of tax evasion do you have? None. Just regurgitating some slimy baseless charge from Harry “The Word Is Out” Reid. And Bush went to Harvard too. So what? At least Bush’s academic transcripts are a matter of public record. Obama’s records from Harvard are sealed. Why would that be? Why should Romney have to release a few tax returns when Obama has most of his life’s “work” in a sealed vault? Note to Hamnida and Democratic National Committee: avoid mention of Harvard or the non-release of personal records.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Oh sorry, I forgot, you Neolibs don’t even think Obama was born in the U.S.A.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Hamnida, it must be an awful come down to realize that Obama attended Harvard as an “equal opportunities” student. That is, he was not selected on the basis of ability but on the basis of race. Nice way to flaunt one’s cleverness that.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Stop calling people “neolibs” you weirdo. Bullshit terms like that are only said by idiots and first year pol science losers. And don’t tell other people what they think.
There’s actually only a handful of nutters who actually believe Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
tristanb: Obama Is Not A Keynesian, He’s An American!
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Ed Snack – Sadly, your racial taunts don’t surprise me. Until reading this blog over the last month, I thought you count the remaining racists in New Zealand on one hand – Chapman, Brash, Ansell, Crimp.
If you are you going to launch a racist attack on Obama, I suggest you provide some evidence.
Even if it was “equal opportunities”, this does not reflect on his intelligence or values. It is probably to do with giving less affluent African Americans access to pricey universities. In my view, that would be a solid policy in the context of a heavily privatised American tertiary education system.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
tristanb – A number of contributors on this blog have questioned Obama’s place of birth and religion. There are also freak shows like Fox that continue to propagate this false rumour despite Obama’s birth certificate being a public document.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
ISeeRed – I thought George W was a Harvard drop out. I actually quite like George W, much better choice than Gore or Kerry. With George W you knew what you were getting – A Texan ranch owner come baseball franchise manager. Also, Bush has a great sense of humour.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Lots of people would like to see Romney’s tax returns
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Once again you have ignored NZ’s 5th largest party the Conservatives. For the record they polled as follows
Roy Morgan two polls 3.0% and 1.5%
3 News Reid research 1.7%
TV 1 Colmar Brunton 1%
Fairfax Ipsos 0.7%
It would be good if all parties poll results were treated evenly.
[DPF: They are included in the full report and all data on them is collected. Changing the templates is a non-trivial job. When I have the time, they'll be included]
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
cha – that clip really makes you think what Romney’s hiding.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I think the Conservatives can get 4%, that’s why I put them into my calculations. The problem for National will be explaining to Colin Craig why Winston’s Deputy PM and he isn’t.
A good result for National would be – National 42%, NZ First, 4.5%, Conservatives 4%. That way they can form a government and justify why Winston’s Deputy PM. This would be a rocky government and I don’t think it would last 3 years.
I think Labour/Greens are more likely, possibly with a seat or two from Mana/Maori.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
A very small number proportional to how many comment here. It’s been ridiculued so much for so long most don’t bother commenting on it any more. Your credibility suffers when you make sweeping statements unsupported by facts.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Pete George – Well I have only read and posted on this blog for four weeks and I’ve heard the Obama birther myth quite a lot.
I’ve also witnessed a level of racism I wasn’t aware still existed in New Zealand.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Come on then ham, proof. I call bullshit. Four weeks, show me how many posts state that as a fact from your so called ‘neolibs’. Show me you know how to use Google.
You say “a number” I agree. Zero. If its more than 5, I will donate $50 to charity.
Go.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Lots of people would like to see Obama’s college grades and transcripts.
But sealed tight they remain, with nary a journalist after them – probably too busy chasing Romney’s high school report cards!
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
I just scrolled down, but the blogs only go back to August 17.
So lets start the bet now if you’re still on?
With the election in November, there will be a number of postings. I reckon I’ll get to five in two weeks.
And I’ll meet your bet, $50 if I don’t get five or more.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
1. General Debate 18 July 2012 at 1:53pm.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
2. Weihana (2,244) Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
mikenmild,
I will advance that he is neither Hawaiian or Kenyan: he’s a cybernetic clone of George W Bush (with an upgrade to his oratory control system) developed at Area 51 by the supposedly defunct Project for the New American Century in cooperation with the Skull and Bones society.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
3. AUSA
Pete George (14,281) Says:
Vote:July 18th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
mikenmild – there’s no proof at all that Obama was born. Seeing him on the telly doesn’t count, you know what they did with the moon stuff. And the clincher is Palin has never claimed she could see him from her house.
August 20th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Handjob
Vote:You are truly the most obnoxious, oily, unctuous, and unlikeable person currently posting on this blog. Time for some sunlight on your political views I think.
How’s that Marxism thing working out for you?
G
August 20th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
4.
kowtow (2,614) Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
oh yes the kb usual suspects,pete g,mm,weihana;
mock all you like but the Anointed One is not an all American boy is he?
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/09/02/the-great-obama-cover-up
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
5.
kowtow (2,614) Says:
July 18th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
Non American father,grand mother lives in a mud hut in Kenya which just got electricity. Uncle and aunt who are illegal aliens in the USA. Mom, a communist.
And you prats make fun of S Palin, I think there’ s alot more fun in Uncle Onyango,now there’s a name you won’t find listed in the American Civil War archives,unless you look up Mau Mau rebellion……
Real all American apple pie……..
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
$50 to Women’s Refuge Christchurch please.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Grant – I am no Marxist – I believe in a New Zealand for all New Zealanders.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
6.
Redbaiter (500) Says:
May 19th, 2012 at 8:10 am
When Barack Obama is confiirmed as born in Kenya, remember there was basically only one blogger in NZ prepared to carry the narrative and run with this truth.
Almost every other news source and NZ blogger was complicit in the cover up, and or too cowardly to run with it.
http://truebluenz.com/
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Your standard of proof is appalling.
1. Scuse me, a blank post?
2. A joke, seriously?
3. Another joke? WTF are you on?
4. So, a link to a cover up story, with no birther reference at all
5. And another post with no birther references
And you call that neolibs supporting the birther morons. Gain some grip dear marxist colleague, I may have to wet myself laughing in your general direction.
Feel free to try again…
Go.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
7.
Redbaiter (500) Says:
May 19th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Barack Obama a “birther”?
(“Birther” being the name the left thought up to ridicule those who questioned Obama’s Constitutional legitimacy, in an attempt to link them with bizarre and irrational 9/11 “truthers”)
Obama himself wrote the outline biography used in the Dystel and Goderich book review and the description of the author. Obama himself said he was born in Kenya.
Read that again-
Obama himself told them he was born in Kenya.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/18/dystel-biography-submission-guidelines-obama-kenya-fact-checking-error
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Ohh, what happened to your self confessed Marxist leanings then, not to mention all your ” coercion” policies to do with education??
Nevermind, by the time you turn 15 you’ll look back and realise how ignorant you sounded back in 2012.
G
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
Cool, that’s one. Well done. And redbaiter, makes sense really
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
And more:
Leaping Jimmy (11,398) Says:
May 19th, 2012 at 8:42 am
remember there was basically only one blogger in NZ prepared to carry the narrative and run with this truth. Almost every other news source and NZ blogger was complicit in the cover up, and or too cowardly to run with it
Try not to rate yourself too highly RB. Obama’s birth issue is merely one of the many issues this particular pres has. Just because its the one you chose to run with, doesn’t mean that even before you started doing that, others here weren’t already aware of it and remain abreast. I was reading this last night, for example but couldn’t be arsed saying anything then.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii
Manolo (7,156) Says:
Vote:May 19th, 2012 at 8:43 am
Obama is the grave digger of the US economy. The Kenyan is a saboteur and socialist mole.
Even so, it’s within possibly the squatter could remain in the White House after the November election. Figure that out.
August 20th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Nope, youve got redbaiter, try again
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
I should have known you would never pay.
If I hadn’t got them, I would have paid.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
He is Kenyan by descent, try harder…
Still one…
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
David Garrett (2,497) Says:
May 19th, 2012 at 10:07 am
Can someone explain to me why anyone in NEW ZEALAND gives a rats rectum where Obama was born? Seriously guys, he’s the President of the US, love him or loathe him…but why the hell does it matter to us??
Manolo (7,156) Says:
Vote:May 19th, 2012 at 10:13 am
Utter horror: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8469771/labour-could-lead-government-poll
Each country get the government it deserves.
August 20th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
This must be 10…
or instance, he went to a memorial event celebrating the famous crossing of the Selma bridge that happened in the 1960s and told people that his mother and father met there and that he (Obama) was the result of that meeting, so that coming to Selma was ‘coming home”. There is video of him saying this. In fact, Obama was born 4 years earlier than the Selma event. He made up the story.
The matter of where he was born is important in one respect, because one must be natural born to be able to be President, but this latest issue with the bio is important as it shows us what kind of person Obama is – how he likes to make up stories about himself that are provably false.
I think that’s just weird. Especially for the most powerful man in the world.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Ive noted one. Find four more. You said “A number of contributors on this blog have questioned Obama’s place of birth and religion” and you’ve found one that meets that standard.
Stop bleating and provide proof, or back down. Simple.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
11.
e.
Fletch (3,211) Says:
May 19th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Scott Chris, the lawyer representing Obama won’t even admit in court that the ‘birth certificate’ he produced was real.
About two-thirds of the way through the hearing, Hill admitted in open court something that no lawyer for the Obama campaign has ever admitted. Obama never furnished a true copy of his birth certificate to the New Jersey Secretary of State. Furthermore, the PDF file that the White House has served to the Internet since April 27, 2012, is not relevant to the case in any way.
Hill conceded this point after Apuzzo tried to call Brian Wilcox, an expert document analyst. He was ready to show that no one could rely on the PDF file as a substitute for a hard-copy long-form birth certificate. But Judge Masin said at once that neither he nor Secretary of State Kim Guadagno had ever seen a birth certificate, whether on paper, as a PDF file, or on the Internet. He told Apuzzo that calling Wilcox would be “premature.”
Then Masin turned to Hill and asked her directly:
Is it your legal position that the document on the Internet is irrelevant to this case?
Hill replied, “Yes.” Masin then asked:
And indeed you concede that Mr. Obama has not produced an alleged birth certificate to the Secretary of State.
Hill at first said, “It has been released nationally,” but then admitted that she did not know personally that Obama had given any such document to the Secretary of State, nor did she intend giving such a document to the court today
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
The list goes on.
Give the $50 to Christchurch Women’s Refuge or I will.
Night, night.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
And fletch states where in that post that he is a birther, or questioned the place of birth? A mere re-posting of information?
Do keep up.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Tom, is the release of college grades and transcripts a mandatory requirement for candidates?.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
That has to be the funniest threat ever on the blogosphere.
“Give the $50 to Christchurch Women’s Refuge or I will. ”
Hamandeggs, you have truly missed your calling. A job in the circus beckons.
Vote:G
August 20th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
No, the claims that the list goes on go on.
Yet again, you fail the burden of proof. But keep making fact-free claims. It reminds us of why we dont vote left.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
I’ve also witnessed a level of racism I wasn’t aware still existed in New Zealand.
home schooled as well as under twenty
No we are not as racist as your hero john killawhitemoitherfucker Hatfield or for that matter Margret onlywhitescanberacist Mutu
Or is this another time that you have a special and private meaning for the words you use
wiki Racist
Vote:Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, or beliefs that reflect the racial worldview: the ideology that humans are divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called “races”. This ideology entails the belief that members of a race share a set of characteristic traits, abilities, or qualities, that traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral characteristics are inherited, and that this inheritance means that races can be ranked as innately superior or inferior to others.
August 20th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
As far as I’m aware there is nothing about a candidate’s history that is mandatory for release. But when journalists are digging up Mitt’s high school records why should Obambi get a free pass – especially when his supporters made such a big deal about how smart he is. I’d have thought someone with straight A’s at Columbia and Harvard would be gagging to release them.
Must be something to hide – assuming I apply your (cough) standard (cough)?
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Nasty wee frog there Tom.
Anyhoo, not that I give a rat’s, but I reckon his tax status appears to be the only thing about Romney that’s not been made public and the demands are a play dirty Chicago style attempt to set the terms of engagement, if he does release details they win and if he doesn’t he’s hiding something.
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Oh I quite agree Cha. But I’ve been surprised to see Romney developing what appears to be a spine, in that he’s simply said no and waited for the inevitable MSM cycle to role over on to the next talking point – which now appears to be Ryan and Medicare, not to mention the uproar about Slow Joe’s clumsy attempt to play the race card.
In other words, he effectively told the Chicago campaign to pound sand. Me like!
Vote:August 20th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
the demands are a play dirty Chicago style attempt to set the terms of engagement
Hardly, since it was normal for every presidential candidate to release numerous years of his tax returns.
If Romney would have just released his upfront there wouldn’t have been any “demands”. The fact that Romney is trying not to play by the “rules” is what triggered this all.
What I find really amusing is that no one seems to be bothered by the fact that a multimillionaire pays a mere 13% tax rate.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 1:11 am
Hamnida:
I gather you’re not a native English speaker?
Take it from me, an objective observer, that you’ve completely failed to substantiate your original claim that “[a] number of contributors on this blog have questioned Obama’s place of birth and religion”. Most of the comments you’ve found, supposedly in support of your claim, are dripping with irony or sarcasm – they should not be interpreted literally, and actually have the opposite meaning. The people responsible for those comments, such as Pete George, could hardly be described as “birthers”!
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 8:19 am
Should have known a Neolib would never pay out on a bet, let alone to Women’s Refuge.
There is no argument whatsoever that I found at least five people who post on this blog questioning whether Obama was born in the U.S or not. Sarcasm (and doubt some of them were, as they actually named different places of birth) is the writer’s responsibility.
Shame on hmmokrightitis.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 9:08 am
That Pom John Harvard, from Liverpool, has a lot to answer for in USA, and consequential World affairs.
But, the University still owns over 200,000 hectares of New Zealand land, including farms. and will purchase more, as it sees a good investment.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 9:14 am
Paulus – For real? Harvard owns 200,000 hectares in NZ?
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 12:47 pm
Hamnida:
Your logic is flawed. No, contrary to your assertion, you haven’t found five people questioning whether Obama was born in the US or not. At least, if you say so, then name the five people.
A number of the comments you quoted yesterday were clearly intended to be humorous. It doesn’t help your cause at all to say that sarcasm “is the writer’s responsibility”.
Let’s just say that I’ve read Kiwiblog fairly regularly for the last eight years, so I’m better-placed than you to judge whether a person was seriously questioning whether Obama was born in the US or not.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Nostradamus – Just scrolled back through them – a myriad of postings questioning Obama’s place of birth.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
*Sigh*
You are misisng my point – I have not seen five posts genuinely questioning Obama’s place of birth.
Not that one.
No proof that he was born! Are you getting a sense of irony?
And I won’t bother going on… the only one you actually found was from Redbaiter. That makes one, not the five you claimed.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Micky mouse debate – If he was not born, how could he be born in the U.S.A? I have to have that one.
“I will advance that he is neither Hawaiian or Kenyan” – I’ll give you that one, as there are 49 states other than Hawaii and George W was born in one of them.
But if he wasn’t born, it is impossible for him to be born in any U.S State.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Hamnida:
If you can’t see that “there’s no proof at all that Obama was born” is a joke, then you are… ah, fuck it. I’m clearly wasting my time. You’re simply too stupid for words.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Don’t blame me – I think Obama was born in Hawaii, so I’m not the stupid one. The person who posted the comment was trying to say Obama was not even born. Maybe he/she believes in Adam and Eve too.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Jesus you’re a fuckwit.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Heh, heh, heh.
Incredible is it not Nostradamus. They walk among us and breed. As I said of Hamnida’s ramblings the other day (quoting the scene from Billy Madison):
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 6:33 pm
You Neolibs are weird – I have read Obama’s birth certificate on-line and simply concluded he was born in the U.S.A.
You guys really still doubt that?
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Obama famously said he’d visited 56 states ,so he could have been born in 6 more than the 50 that actually constitute those united territories.
And until this joker came along, I ‘ll bet there was never a President who had a granny who could call a mud hut in Kenya home. He ain’t no all American boy.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 6:58 pm
“He ain’t no all American boy”
Make that $150 for Women’s Refuge please.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Tom Hunter:
Here’s the thing. You’ve been around the Kiwiblog block more than a few times. When it comes to the likes of Philu, Zhumao and Yoza, although they’re all hopelessly misguided in their own way, at least you get a sense of intelligent thought when debating issues with them. With Hamnida, there’s no debate. All you get back is weird sloganeering like “neolibs” and, well, not much else really.
Someone really should put together a “best of” from Hamnida’s “contributions” (in the broadest sense of the word) to date.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 7:06 pm
I said pretty much the same thing on GD the other day.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 7:10 pm
OK, I’m happy to leave it at that. You Neolibs think Obama wasn’t even born, yet I think he was born in Hawaii, a state of the U.S.A. Seems a bit strange, but every one is entitled to their opinion.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 7:25 pm
And now I’m calling it: Hamnida is by far the most batshit-crazy person ever to comment on Kiwiblog. That last comment will take quite some beating.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
What, for thinking Obama was born in Hawaii, a state of the U.S.A?
If I’m wrong, then I think I need medication.
I thought even Mike Hukabee agreed he was born in the U.S.A now.
You Neolibs are weird.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Nostradamus,
Have you forgotten Magic Bullet so quickly?
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Bhudson:
Would you nominate this comment then?
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
I don’t know if Key has had accent training or not, but there are people who specialise in that field.
What I do know is that Paula Bennett is a PR character. They make people think she is a bogan, Westie, solo mum turned good. In fact, she is a McCully staffer (read what you like into that) from Taupo and the North Shore.
If you ask me, the weirdest thing about John Kiwi is not his accent, it’s the eyes close together.
Vote:August 21st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Nostradamus,
No. Personally I think this one trumps it:
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/05/a_john_key_prunciation_guide.html#comment-827283
(Oh and any of his 9/11 Truther comments also)
Vote: