Superb

August 6th, 2012 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

Following on the cats that look like David Cunliffe page, we now have the weasels that look like Colin Craig page.

I especially like the Colin wonders where to put his paws page.

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63 Responses to “Superb”

  1. Pete George (23,359 comments) says:

    I am not a fan of Colin Craig but I think this is an unfair attack on him, especially the ‘weasel’ focus.

    It’s sort of clever but this looks to me to be nasty character attack politics disguised as humour.

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  2. Liberal Minded Kiwi (1,569 comments) says:

    Outrageous! Poor weasels. It’s not their fault.

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  3. big bruv (13,573 comments) says:

    Come on Pete. Certain pollies just deserve to have the piss taken out of them.

    Colin Craig and the political slut from Karori are two of them.

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  4. nasska (10,917 comments) says:

    No real damage….a few sessions with a therapist & the weasels will be as good as new.

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  5. East Wellington Superhero (1,151 comments) says:

    Why have real debate about the issue when we can just do this.

    My respect for DPF has dropped significantly in the last year. Not because of his views but because of his inconsistency around ad hominum arguments and his general disinterest in genuine debate on this issue.

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  6. Chuck Bird (4,774 comments) says:

    “My respect for DPF has dropped significantly in the last year. Not because of his views but because of his inconsistency around ad hominum arguments and his general disinterest in genuine debate on this issue. ”

    I agree. I note this misses his usual comment, “funny but not nasty”. I am finding it hard to respect any libertarian. Just too many of them are very nasty.

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  7. smttc (711 comments) says:

    Lighten up everybody.

    Regardless of the merits or otherwise of Craig’s views about gay marriage, we all know his views on sexual orientation are rubbish.

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  8. Redbaiter (8,042 comments) says:

    The National Party- just like Labour, the nasty party.

    Just the same old same old Progressive mindset.

    Next election, don’t waste your vote on more of the same old revolving door Progressivism.

    Put the Marxist losers of the National / Labour coalition out to pasture.

    They’ve fucked this country.

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  9. YesWeDid (1,044 comments) says:

    Colin Craig’s just lucky he’s not a ginga otherwise DPF would really be getting nasty.

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  10. Griff (7,017 comments) says:

    Oh dear DPF it seems that you have offended the f undies
    maybe they will stop posting
    how sad
    :lol:

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  11. The Scorned (719 comments) says:

    Hark at the uber bigot Chuck Bird going on about DPF supposedly being nasty,,,,,pot meet kettle. DPF only posts light humorous pieces…..its the sad anal retentive types who fail to see that…

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  12. Chuck Bird (4,774 comments) says:

    The Scorned or is it James Jenkins. I make no apology for being nasty to paedophiles or their supporters like your boyfriend Jim Peron.

    [DPF: Demerits if you keep that up.]

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  13. kowtow (7,978 comments) says:

    Don’t like his message,attack the man. Disguised as humour.

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  14. Pete George (23,359 comments) says:

    I’m neither a Craig supporter nor a fundie. I just happen to think this looks more like an attempt at a political character assassination using humour as a weapon.

    Who is the assassin?

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  15. James Stephenson (2,097 comments) says:

    Is it assassination when the victim stands up and shouts “shoot me please!” at the top of his voice?

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  16. iMP (2,345 comments) says:

    Maybe replace the weasel with a Meerkat. Everyone loves those, or are we really saying Craig is a “weasel”. He seems more decent than Winston.

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  17. eszett (2,374 comments) says:

    … his general disinterest in genuine debate on this issue.

    Quite a dishonest statement.

    Actually there has been heaps of debate on this issue here on the blog. More than on most other topics, more than the actual topic warrants for.

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  18. Ryan Sproull (7,078 comments) says:

    It’s not character assassination. It’s just not particularly funny.

    I miss http://bleaknewzealandcelebrities.tumblr.com/

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  19. tristanb (1,133 comments) says:

    Craig of the CCP, like Bishop Tamaki, Sue Bradford, Hone Hawera and Chris Carter, are politicians who deserve to have the piss taken out of them. They have crazy beliefs and say some stupid stuff – we’re allowed to call them on it.

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  20. tristanb (1,133 comments) says:

    The Scorned or is it James Jenkins. I make no apology for being nasty to paedophiles or their supporters like your boyfriend Jim Peron.

    How is the Scorned a paedo supporter? Did he vote for the Christian Heritage Party ten years ago?

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  21. Chuck Bird (4,774 comments) says:

    Jim Peron is a paedo supporter who is also libertarian. One good thing Winston did was help make sure such a person could not reside in New Zealand.

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  22. UpandComer (525 comments) says:

    Hmmm. DPF I’m a massive massive fan of your work… but even I have to agree a tiny little bit with the naysayers about depicting Colin Craig as a weasel. I think he is going to destroy the New Zealand right with his unpalatable views, but then again I can blame Act for being so mind-bogglingly terrible in allowing this man to come through the cracks. But yeah unless it turns out that Colin actually is gay and/or a trans, or has committed some crimes like David Garrett, I think this is ‘just’ unwarranted. For now. (I still hate that Colin Craig will be the tail wagging the whole freaken constructive, not bat**** crazy right-wing dog in NZ).

    [DPF: People need to lighten up. This is in the same vein as cats that look like David Cunliffe. I would have blogged this, if it was about a National MP]

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  23. backster (2,124 comments) says:

    CRAIG who to me seems a decent bloke nonetheless is a strong Christian and an opponent of the Homosexual agenda. DPF hates Chrisianity and is a strong proponent for Homosexual rights, even so this post reflects the mentality of the Standard and he should post it there.

    [DPF: Please do not lie about me. Far from hating Christianity, I am a (non practising) Christian, and have a lot of respect for the contribution christianity has made to our society]

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  24. boredboy (250 comments) says:

    Whatever happened to the whole “rough-and-tumble of politics” that you hear so much about? “Politicians need to have thick skin” bla bla bla?

    Doesn’t count now?

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  25. iMP (2,345 comments) says:

    Is Craig a strong christian? He’s said publicly he doesn’t go to church.
    Why is Christianity always equated with Loons in Nz. Its mainstream in America and Aust.
    Mother Theresa was a Christian, so was martin luther King Jr., so was Abe Lincoln….

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  26. iMP (2,345 comments) says:

    MP William Wilberforce who got rid of slavery, the Queen, Michael Jones who won’t play on sunday, Eric Liddell of Chariots fame…

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  27. UpandComer (525 comments) says:

    Wow he doesn’t even go to Church???? Yet holds himself out as a ‘strong christian’?????

    Wow. I take it back. DPF the guy is a weasel.

    What is that? Doesn’t even go to Church. haha what a joke. So he really is just a blowhard.

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  28. Paulus (2,568 comments) says:

    Don’t panic – Airbrush Clark is back in the Country –

    presumably – I’m from Head Office and are here to help you, David, maybe.

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  29. Elaycee (4,337 comments) says:

    Memo to the thin skinned, humourless, PC advocates on KB: Start smelling the flowers.

    Anyone standing for public office has to accept that part of the price they pay for putting their head above the parapet, is that someone will always find them an easy target. This ‘attraction’ increases in parallel with the publicised views of the said target…. and the more out of step with mainstream opinion, the greater the size of the bullseye.

    Colin Craig is an easy target – even Winston comes across as a level headed, thinking person compared to the leader of the CCCP.

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  30. gazzmaniac (2,319 comments) says:

    My respect for DPF has dropped significantly in the last year. Not because of his views but because of his inconsistency around ad hominum arguments and his general disinterest in genuine debate on this issue.

    It’s been getting progressively worse since the 2008 election.

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  31. Chuck Bird (4,774 comments) says:

    “This ‘attraction’ increases in parallel with the publicised views of the said target…. and the more out of step with mainstream opinion, the greater the size of the bullseye.”

    If his views were really out of step with mainstream opinion the pro-homosexual marriage lobby would not be so opposed to a binding referendum.

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  32. Griff (7,017 comments) says:

    iMP
    The Christian Heritage Party of New Zealand (CHP, known for a time simply as Christian Heritage New Zealand) was a New Zealand political party espousing Christian values. Although it never won seats in an election, it came close to doing so in 1996 as part of the Christian Coalition and briefly had a member in Parliament.
    On 3 October 2006, the Party said it would disband to allow “new things to arise in Christian politics in New Zealand”. This came after a highly-publicised scandal which resulted in its leader, Graham Capill, going to jail for committing sex-crimes against young girls.

    Is that a good enough hint
    We are not the fundie states of america thank “god”

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  33. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,834 comments) says:

    What a silly thing do post. I can think of one or two Labour politicians whose features make them indistinguishable from old Berkshire sows; along with a Green or two who bear striking resemblances to sea otters or achidna.

    You’ll be laughing on the other side of your faces if Mr Colin Conservative makes it to five percent in 2014. Maybe that’s what this is all about.

    Disclaimer. No I don’t agree with his views on homosexuality. I think it is an aberration which likely can be fixed economically by application of a good kick up the arse followed by daily shots of testosterone.

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  34. tom hunter (4,576 comments) says:

    You’ll be laughing on the other side of your faces if Mr Colin Conservative makes it to five percent in 2014. Maybe that’s what this is all about.

    Interesting comment from a “true blue” National supporter. I can’t help thinking that what this is all about (that, and a few other things recently on KB) – is distraction.

    Perhaps a current example from overseas would serve as a good example of the strategy and tactic; Harry Reid’s accusations about Mitt Romney’s tax payments.

    Since Reid has absolutely no evidence for his claim, just an unnamed single “source”, even most Democratic hacks have held off supporting him, and several have condemned him. In the face of that you would have to wonder why he would persist with such a baseless claim that makes him look so awful? Well the reasoning is pretty straight-forward:

    As far as Reid and Obama are concerned, the more we’re discussing this foundationless rumor, the less we’re discussing the president’s egregious record of economic failure.

    (3) Here’s a quote from a “top Reid confidant,” explaining Democrats’ thinking on this smear campaign.

    “What Republicans don’t get is the more they fire back at Reid, the more he will fight, and in the end, what will the topic be? Romney and his taxes.”

    See how it works? Narrative control; framing the debate.

    Of course if you are going to go this far out on a limb in pursuit of those objectives it pays to have a fall-guy, preferably a willing one:

    For Reid, he’s got virtually nothing to lose: His approval ratings back home are still upside-down, and he may not even run for reelection when he’s up for a sixth term in 2016. On top of that, his aides say, Reid genuinely believes his source…

    That last bit is important – because then nobody can accuse you of being a blatant liar!

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  35. iMP (2,345 comments) says:

    Griff, CHP was a Dutch Reform group; most Christians in NZ were distinctly uncomfortable with them politically (as I was); which is partly why they failed in union with the -to be pitied- Christian Democrats forced to work with them to breach the MMp threshold.

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  36. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    In and of it self this is pretty harmless. Politicians should expect all sorts of things when they step in the limelight, but I draw the line at smears, lies and attacks on family.

    That said, I’m with a few others here – DPF’s seemingly relentless campaign against Craig is a bit nasty. It seems that urban liberals are very happy to attack anyone (aka deny their right to liberty) for not thinking and behaving as they do. Craig is squarely in their sights, and the calibre of their ammunition will increase in proportion the support he gathers.

    [DPF: It is a campaign against Craig's views, not Craig. I have even blogged positive stuff on Craig when he doesn't say stupid things. But if he is going to insist being gay is a choice, despite the massive evidence it is not, then he is going to be attacked.]

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  37. iMP (2,345 comments) says:

    I’m not sure DPF is going as far as equating Craig with a weasel; just an unfortunate word association with a funny pic. Right DPF? Actually one of the images on the site DPF quotes is an Otter, nota weasel. Otters are awesome.

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  38. Still Here (1,091 comments) says:

    Why does going to church make someone a christian, I’ve met people who claim to be Christian and meet in houses but wouldn’t be seen in a church on sundays?

    So DPF considers himself to be a non practicing christian, interesting comment.
    I thought that the central core of their belief is an acceptance that Jesus was God, sacrificed his life for the world and will come again and smite the unbelievers.
    It seems to me that if you didn’t believe that, you weren’t a Christian as opposed to not being a practicing one :-)

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  39. iMP (2,345 comments) says:

    …and cuddly (but not in a same-sex way).

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  40. boredboy (250 comments) says:

    Why are you guys so obsessed by this? I have followed this a little bit and it seems there are about 10 of you who, between yourselves, have made +1,000 posts on this, all bile-filled rants about something you can’t change.

    What is wrong with you? This is seriously unbalanced behaviour.

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  41. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    Following on the cats that look like David Cunliffe page

    Hey, could we have a Hobbits that look like Kim Dotcom page? :D

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  42. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    I like the guy. All power to him.

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  43. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    Theres this story about a grizzly old trucker who was driving from one sie if the US to the other and used to pick up hitch-hikers for a bit of entertainment…..
    One day he pickup up someone who had the appearance of being gender neutral – long hair, soft voice, etc. The trucker kept glancing at the hitchhiker – which the hitchhker noticed, and afetr a bit of discussion he said to the trucker – “You dont know if Im male or female do you?”

    “Makes no difference” said the trucker “youre going to get fucked either way”

    The Colin Craig situation reminds me of this. Everyone is taking a second look at him. Whats he saying? whats he up to? does he really mean what hes saying? etc, etc
    But the message to National is this – “makes no difference – youre going to get fucked either way”

    At the next election I predict that Conservative will vacuum up all those votes fromNZ First and ACT and that silly old bugger in Ohariu. Maori will be a spent force (they dont know what they want or whose really in charge – The Maori party, The Iwi leaders , the Maori council or is it someone else) – and their votes will probably be spread around pretty evenly. Colin Craig will then be king maker – and could either way, although I suspect he will put thepressure on national and will squeeze them dry. Then with any luck we will see rollbacks of things like working for families and we will start to see some binding referendums – and they would be very welcome.

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  44. YesWeDid (1,044 comments) says:

    [DPF: Please do not lie about me. Far from hating Christianity, I am a (non practising) Christian, and have a lot of respect for the contribution christianity has made to our society]

    So now you believe in God DPF? Because if you don’t you can’t be a ‘Christian’, practising or non-practising or whatever you want to call it.

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  45. Chuck Bird (4,774 comments) says:

    DPF: It is a campaign against Craig’s views, not Craig. I have even blogged positive stuff on Craig when he doesn’t say stupid things. But if he is going to insist being gay is a choice, despite the massive evidence it is not, then he is going to be attacked.

    David, you are threatening me with demerits for condemning that sick puppy Jim Peron who a lot of libertarians support. Have you read the sick homo-erotic article he wrote in NAMBLA friendly publication? He speaks highly of what he calls his boy lovers. He support Craig’s contention.

    You are unable to counter Craig’s opinions that are based on research he has read.

    People who had experienced sexual abuse as children were three times more likely to identity themselves as homosexual or bisexual than those who had not experienced abuse, she said. Also, the more adverse events someone experienced in childhood, the more likely they were to belong to one of the “non-exclusively heterosexual” groups.

    http://www.odt.co.nz/campus/university-otago/117336/sexual-orientation-link-past-study

    What he says is his genuinely held belief. That is more than I can say for Louisa Wall and many of her libertarian supporters. She and Chauvel both claim they believe that they would win a binding referendum. They are lying. If they believed they had a very strong chance of winning public support even with huge advantage they have with majority support in the MSM and also bloggers obsessed like you and Slater they would be happy for a referendum.

    You are beginning to sound like a global warming alarmist. You are trying to shut down debate. You claim you have massive evidence to support you belief. Craig supplies evidence and rather than respond with a logical argument you try and shut others down people who disagree with you albeit a little indirectly. You allow your libertarian allies to abuse conservatives and threaten people with demerits if the respond.

    Like many have said I had a lot of respect for you despite holding different views on morals issues. I am also losing that respect and seeing you as just another libertarian who will force his views on society by any means.

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  46. chiz (1,131 comments) says:

    So why isn’t there a possums that look like Dunne page?

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  47. chiz (1,131 comments) says:

    Chuck:You are unable to counter Craig’s opinions that are based on research he has read.

    Correlation doesn’t imply causation. Child abuse doesn’t explain the biological differences between gay and staright people that have been found. It doesn’t explain why there are gay sheep.

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  48. nasska (10,917 comments) says:

    …”It doesn’t explain why there are gay sheep”….

    Lamb abuse? :)

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  49. chiz (1,131 comments) says:

    Or maybe Johnboy gets about a lot?

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  50. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    chiz (580) Says: ….”It doesn’t explain why there are gay sheep.”

    How do you know there are gay sheep? have you had your advances rebuffed or similar…………..

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  51. Dazzaman (1,132 comments) says:

    Yawn…..

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  52. chiz (1,131 comments) says:

    barry – there’s been scientific research on this.

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  53. nasska (10,917 comments) says:

    chiz

    I wouldn’t be too quick off the mark to trumpet the ‘scientific’ research regarding gay sheep. I’ve spent half a lifetime farming the sods & I’ll offer two thoughts.

    One is that every autumn I have paddocks full of male lambs humping each other while they put on enough weight to send to the works…..in the absence of ewes & with their hormones kicking in they’ll dry root anything. The other is that every year a few ewes will cycle but refuse to have anything to do with the ram. In these cases it’s not unknown for another couple of ewes to stand either side of it until the ram has done his business.

    Since empty ewes & useless rams get an early ride on the big truck ovine homosexuality is not an issue that concerns us greatly.

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  54. chiz (1,131 comments) says:

    I agree to a certain extant. Trying to interpret what you might see in the paddock is fraught with difficulties since there are confounding factors. However the scientists tried to get around this, by doing the experiments in more controlled conditions. There’s a story here which notes:

    They have confirmed that test sheep are gay by allowing them to pick among males and females that have been restrained in stanchions to await sexual intercourse.

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  55. iMP (2,345 comments) says:

    DPF I cannot agree with you that ‘gayness’ is not a choice (ie its controlled by your genes). That’s a big assumption. It’s a valid argument that it is not, and the science is out on the gene thing, the nature or nurture arguments etc. Academia presents a strong case for the impact of nurture (ie the link between child abuse, absent parents, especially on males, etc) on sexuality.

    It’s therefore unfair to justify attacks on Craig because of his “stupid views,” when they are simply opposite, and quite reasonable just different to your assumptions.. HEAPS of people believe homosexuality is fundamentally a choice based on multifarious complexities of human sexuality. Trans, Bi, Gay, Straight, Deviant, Bestiality, Paedophilia, Abstinent, Androgenous, Coprophilia, Necrophilia, etc.

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  56. nasska (10,917 comments) says:

    chiz

    Interesting link……in practical terms although “ram seeks ram for farmyard fun” would more likely see the confused one in sausage casings than a fulfilling relationship. :)

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  57. chiz (1,131 comments) says:

    nasska , sausages from gay sheep? Won’t eating them make you gay? Something else for the godbotherers to argue – more food labelling required.

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  58. nasska (10,917 comments) says:

    chiz

    Just when we thought that God’s little helpers had run out of red herrings! :)

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  59. chiz (1,131 comments) says:

    iMP: DPF I cannot agree with you that ‘gayness’ is not a choice (ie its controlled by your genes). That’s a big assumption. It’s a valid argument that it is not, and the science is out on the gene thing, the nature or nurture arguments etc. Academia presents a strong case for the impact of nurture (ie the link between child abuse, absent parents, especially on males, etc) on sexuality.

    Claiming that gayness is not a choice, because you are born that way, is not the same as claiming that it genetic. It is possible for a trait to be biological in origin without it having a genetic basis. The evidence to date suggests that there is a genetic component to sexual orientation but that it is weak and indirect and most likely works by biasing some factor during embryonic development but that factor, nongenetic, has yet to be identified.

    Academia does not, in fact, have a strong case for nurture being relevant to sexual orientation. A correlation between child abuse and sexual orientation does not imply that there is causation. Girls who are sexually abused by men are more likely to be gay according to such research.

    P.S. Now that you have your own blog, why aren’t you linking to it from your pseudonym?

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  60. boredboy (250 comments) says:

    If anyone thinks being gay is a choice then they have rocks in their head.

    Why on earth would anyone choose to be gay in a world full of Andreis, Fletchs, Kowtows et al?

    Ludicrous.

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  61. gazzmaniac (2,319 comments) says:

    There is also evidence to suggest that in large families with lots of males, the youngest is more likely to be gay.
    That suggests an environmental factor rather than a genetic one. I still don’t think that people can help it.
    Also it’s not considered negatively in some cultures – in ancient Greece for instance they had boys for recreation and women for procreation. Alexander the Great, possibly the greatest general to ever have lived, was a homosexual.

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  62. Liberal Minded Kiwi (1,569 comments) says:

    What softcocks you are. If this had nothing to do with Christian Colin and his reinterpretation of what love is supposed to represent then it would get half the amount of feedback it has already. DPF let loose the dogwhistle yet again and people like Chuck Bird, Yeswedid, Imp etc feel it’s their right to pollute this blog with their stone age christian beliefs.

    Being gay isn’t a choice. And IMP has done a fine job exposing the mentality of you fundys by equating homosexuality with paedophilia, bestiality, coprophilia and necrophilia. A applaud you for your stupdity. Please can we have some more.

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  63. chiz (1,131 comments) says:

    gazzmaniac:There is also evidence to suggest that in large families with lots of males, the youngest is more likely to be gay. That suggests an environmental factor rather than a genetic one.

    Actually no. This has been studied. even in families where children have been adopted in, or out, in turns out that its the number of biological brothers you have, not the number you are raised with, that matters. So the birth order effect is biological in origin rather than environmental.

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