Will Liu/Yan keep his citizenship

August 28th, 2012 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Andrea Vance at Stuff reports:

 Prime Minister John Key is not ruling out stripping Chinese fugitive Yong Ming Yan of New Zealand citizenship.

The Office of the Auditor-General is investigating why former Labour minister Shane Jones gave Mr Yan a New Zealand passport in 2008.

Mr Yan, a wealthy political donor – also known as – was red-flagged by Interpol as a fugitive.

He was wanted for fraud and identity theft in China and Internal Affairs officials advised Mr Jones that his application should be declined.

Mr Jones, who was stood down from his shadow portfolios in May, says he gave Mr Yan a passport on humanitarian grounds, and that he had been told Mr Yan would be arrested, executed and his organs harvested if he were sent back to China.

Yesterday, Mr Key said Mr Jones has some “big questions to answer”. It was difficult to comment until Auditor-General Lyn Provost had finished her investigation, he said.

However, citizenship could be revoked if “[a minister is] satisfied that they obtained the citizenship by fraud, false representation or wilful concealment of relevant information or by mistake”.

I don’t think the Minister should strip Yan or Liu of his citizenship.

It would be much more fun to make it a vote in Parliament, and watch the horror on Labour MPs faces as they realise they have to vote on whether or not Liu should be a citizen :-)

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15 Responses to “Will Liu/Yan keep his citizenship”

  1. Barnsley Bill (974 comments) says:

    They will do a deal with him. Tell us everything you did/gave/bribed for the Labour suckholes and you can stay.
    While Espiners little cut and paste of the efforts Whale put in to expose this scandal was great. He only told half the story.
    Samuels, Jones, Barker and Cunliffe need to be held to account over this.
    We are like some third world pacific island shithole selling passports to foreign crooks.

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  2. hmmokrightitis (1,508 comments) says:

    The last Labour government has made us look like we are some third world pacific island shithole selling passports to foreign crooks.

    FTFY Bill. Credit where its due, please.

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  3. kowtow (7,598 comments) says:

    Strip of citizenship and deport.

    Why is there a reluctance in New Zealand to use the “C” word. It’s as if it’s been banned and one dare not go there.

    Corruption,there how hard was that.The less it’s talked about the more there will be.

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  4. Barnsley Bill (974 comments) says:

    He will give them all up if the govt threaten to send him home. I would rather it all came out and they can be held to account.
    Letting him stay will not make much difference to the ranks of foreign crooks living at metropolis

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  5. Bob R (1,336 comments) says:

    Whale Oil has some good questions for those involved too:

    •Did Dover Samuels, Rick Barker and Shane Jones ever receive any donation to or for their campaign/election accounts? If so were they declared?
    •Have they received any payments either directly or indirectly via close relatives into an account controlled by themselves or controlled by a close relative?
    •If such payments were received were they declared to IRD, the Electoral Commission and/or other statutory authorities?

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2012/08/random-impertinent-questions-19/

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  6. IHStewart (388 comments) says:

    I suspect he may well have used NZ citizenship to obtain Australian citizenship. Not that hard to do.

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  7. Barnsley Bill (974 comments) says:

    Unlikely. The Australians kicked him out and picked his pocket. They also exposed the sham marriage he went through to try and subvert the rules.
    This will be the tip of the iceberg with regard to cash for passports. A full review of granted/approved applications that went over a ministers desk during the reign of terror should be undertaken
    Shane Jones and his pals must be spraying rusty water out of their well fed butts over this.

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  8. tvb (4,200 comments) says:

    There will be no such vote. But after the auditor general’s investigation it might be sufficient material for the Minister to act.

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  9. kowtow (7,598 comments) says:

    Royal Commission into passport corruption?

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  10. rolla_fxgt (311 comments) says:

    If there was a vote, I’m sure Labour would just abstain claiming a conflict of interest in voting for or against. Thus not having to shoot any of their own, and turning it into a non story.

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  11. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    If National did strip Liu, would National also do the honourable thing and give him back all the money he has donated to them?

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  12. Keeping Stock (10,097 comments) says:

    Embarrassed much ross69? That’s a pretty lame response, even by your low standards :P

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  13. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    KS,

    Perhaps you are being unreasonable. All Dover and Shane Jones (and perhaps David C?) can be faulted for is trying to help a constituent…

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  14. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > Embarrassed much ross69?

    Why would I be? I’d be more embarrassed if I’d accepted a gift from someone who I then told to piss off. That seems to be what the PM is suggesting.

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  15. hj (6,348 comments) says:

    The last Labour government has made us look like we are some third world pacific island shithole selling passports to foreign crooks.
    …..
    I would go further and say this National Government doesn’t care as long as a) they have plenty of money b) no one finds out.

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